Re: [Emc-users] pmount package and pmount/pumount commands [Was: Beaglebone USB]

2013-12-03 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 12/3/2013 12:41 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote:
 On 02.12.13 18:49, Andrew wrote:
 I installed pmount package and nothing changed. When I try to mount or open
 a flash drive from 'linuxcnc' session: 'Failed to mount PENDRIVE. Not
 Authorised'
 Er, are you using the pmount command?

 (On ubuntu, we are in group plugdev by default, it seems.
 Dunno about debian.)

 No such problem with 'root'.
 Well, root doesn't need to use the pmount command, because it has mount
 permissions. ;-)

 Erik
 (Who uses pumount to unmount flashsticks before pulling them out, to
 ensure that all data has been written. Mounting is automatic on ubuntu.)


Erik:

I was dubious too but I've now duplicated Andrew's situation on my own 
Beaglebone Black.

With the Debian install on this board, the group plugdev exists and is 
empty and the pmount package is not installed.

When I install the pmount package the group pmount remains empty and I 
can't invoke pmount as a normal user. In my case, I get bash's classic 
complaint, Permission denied. I don't see Erik's Failed to mount... 
message. IIRC, this latter message is usually issued by mount when fstab 
isn't set properly.

When I added myself to the group pmount, as the man pages explicitly 
notes must be done for Debian, I still couldn't invoke pmount as myself, 
although I should be able to since /usr/bin/pmount has file mode bits: 
-rwsr-xr-- [Note that I always logout and login again to ensure my 
changes to /etc/group are picked up.]

As expected, I can invoke pmount as root, and if I install the sudo 
package and add myself to the sudoers list, I can invoke 'sudo pmount' 
whether or not I'm a member of group plugdev.

My results suggest there is something rotten in the state of Debian.

Regards,
Kent


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Re: [Emc-users] pmount package and pmount/pumount commands [Was: Beaglebone USB]

2013-12-03 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 03.12.13 09:33, Kent A. Reed wrote:
 When I added myself to the group pmount, as the man pages explicitly 
 notes must be done for Debian, I still couldn't invoke pmount as myself, 
 although I should be able to since /usr/bin/pmount has file mode bits: 
 -rwsr-xr-- [Note that I always logout and login again to ensure my 
 changes to /etc/group are picked up.]

Then perhaps the quickest workaround for the OP is to do a:

$ sudo chmod o+x /usr/bin/pmount

Then anyone can run it, and the Debian bug is avoided, admittedly at the
cost of the risk that any of the hundreds of users on his home system
could mount the flash drive as well. :^)

 As expected, I can invoke pmount as root, and if I install the sudo 
 package and add myself to the sudoers list, I can invoke 'sudo pmount' 
 whether or not I'm a member of group plugdev.

Now that's bending over backwards to let Debian off the hook - 'sudo
mount' has to be enough, as I'm sure you could tell me. (The whole point
of pmount is to save having to be in /etc/sudoers, AIUI.)

 My results suggest there is something rotten in the state of Debian.

Pretty darn convincingly, I'd say. A bug report is well warranted, I
figure.

Erik

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[Emc-users] pmount package and pmount/pumount commands [Was: Beaglebone USB]

2013-12-02 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 02.12.13 18:49, Andrew wrote:
 I installed pmount package and nothing changed. When I try to mount or open
 a flash drive from 'linuxcnc' session: 'Failed to mount PENDRIVE. Not
 Authorised'

Er, are you using the pmount command?

(On ubuntu, we are in group plugdev by default, it seems.
Dunno about debian.)

 No such problem with 'root'.

Well, root doesn't need to use the pmount command, because it has mount
permissions. ;-)

Erik
(Who uses pumount to unmount flashsticks before pulling them out, to
ensure that all data has been written. Mounting is automatic on ubuntu.)

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