Re: [Emc-users] spindle syncing arbitrary shapes.. Yes please...

2020-10-22 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
I wonder if any company is making such pressed together camshafts for old 
engines like 350 Chevy and 302 Ford? Lighter weight = less rotational inertia. 
Should result in less stress on the timing chain and sprocket.

On Thursday, October 22, 2020, 6:45:03 AM MDT, Leonardo Marsaglia 
 wrote:  
 I must add, that lately we're considering making the camshafts this way:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkHgf5SSsAQ

This would eliminate the roughing process at all.

El jue., 22 oct. 2020 a las 9:35, Leonardo Marsaglia ()
escribió:

> Looks like this would be perfect for roughing camshafts prior to heat
>> treating and grinding. I bet the guy with the camshaft factory who adapted
>> LCNC to control induction heat treaters would be interested in this.
>
>
> This is what I achieved so far Gregg
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjBXa6RHSPQ
>
> The thing is, we have an old landis grinder that can rough those cams in
> about 25 seconds (1.5 mm of material to remove in the radius) per lobe
> (using 60 grit grinding wheel and dessing it with a high feed). So, we are
> waiting until we have a little more time to make a live tooling gig to
> rough them (I already have that on paper but didn't have the time to
> implement it yet).
>
> Without live tooling it's not that practical to rough the lobes/cams for
> production.
  
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Re: [Emc-users] spindle syncing arbitrary shapes.. Yes please...

2020-10-22 Thread Sam Sokolik
Oh - this certainly isn't a production way of creating shapes (internally
and externally)..  (although some shapes it might be)

sam

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 7:44 AM Leonardo Marsaglia 
wrote:

> I must add, that lately we're considering making the camshafts this way:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkHgf5SSsAQ
>
> This would eliminate the roughing process at all.
>
> El jue., 22 oct. 2020 a las 9:35, Leonardo Marsaglia (<
> ldmarsag...@gmail.com>)
> escribió:
>
> > Looks like this would be perfect for roughing camshafts prior to heat
> >> treating and grinding. I bet the guy with the camshaft factory who
> adapted
> >> LCNC to control induction heat treaters would be interested in this.
> >
> >
> > This is what I achieved so far Gregg
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjBXa6RHSPQ
> >
> > The thing is, we have an old landis grinder that can rough those cams in
> > about 25 seconds (1.5 mm of material to remove in the radius) per lobe
> > (using 60 grit grinding wheel and dessing it with a high feed). So, we
> are
> > waiting until we have a little more time to make a live tooling gig to
> > rough them (I already have that on paper but didn't have the time to
> > implement it yet).
> >
> > Without live tooling it's not that practical to rough the lobes/cams for
> > production.
> >
> > El jue., 22 oct. 2020 a las 9:27, Leonardo Marsaglia (<
> > ldmarsag...@gmail.com>) escribió:
> >
> >> Yep he is in Chile.
> >>
> >>
> >> Argentina actually. It's similar, but out shores face the atlantic
> >> instead of the pacific. Also we're closer of being an eleventh world
> >> country than they are...
> >>
> >> El jue., 22 oct. 2020 a las 3:08, andrew beck (<
> andrewbeck0...@gmail.com>)
> >> escribió:
> >>
> >>> Yep he is in Chile.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 6:47 PM Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users <
> >>> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Looks like this would be perfect for roughing camshafts prior to heat
> >>> > treating and grinding. I bet the guy with the camshaft factory who
> >>> adapted
> >>> > LCNC to control induction heat treaters would be interested in this.
> >>> >
> >>> > On Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 9:35:26 PM MDT, Sam Sokolik <
> >>> > samco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4sKHBh6rDk
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Re: [Emc-users] spindle syncing arbitrary shapes.. Yes please...

2020-10-22 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
I must add, that lately we're considering making the camshafts this way:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkHgf5SSsAQ

This would eliminate the roughing process at all.

El jue., 22 oct. 2020 a las 9:35, Leonardo Marsaglia ()
escribió:

> Looks like this would be perfect for roughing camshafts prior to heat
>> treating and grinding. I bet the guy with the camshaft factory who adapted
>> LCNC to control induction heat treaters would be interested in this.
>
>
> This is what I achieved so far Gregg
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjBXa6RHSPQ
>
> The thing is, we have an old landis grinder that can rough those cams in
> about 25 seconds (1.5 mm of material to remove in the radius) per lobe
> (using 60 grit grinding wheel and dessing it with a high feed). So, we are
> waiting until we have a little more time to make a live tooling gig to
> rough them (I already have that on paper but didn't have the time to
> implement it yet).
>
> Without live tooling it's not that practical to rough the lobes/cams for
> production.
>
> El jue., 22 oct. 2020 a las 9:27, Leonardo Marsaglia (<
> ldmarsag...@gmail.com>) escribió:
>
>> Yep he is in Chile.
>>
>>
>> Argentina actually. It's similar, but out shores face the atlantic
>> instead of the pacific. Also we're closer of being an eleventh world
>> country than they are...
>>
>> El jue., 22 oct. 2020 a las 3:08, andrew beck ()
>> escribió:
>>
>>> Yep he is in Chile.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 6:47 PM Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users <
>>> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Looks like this would be perfect for roughing camshafts prior to heat
>>> > treating and grinding. I bet the guy with the camshaft factory who
>>> adapted
>>> > LCNC to control induction heat treaters would be interested in this.
>>> >
>>> > On Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 9:35:26 PM MDT, Sam Sokolik <
>>> > samco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4sKHBh6rDk
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Re: [Emc-users] spindle syncing arbitrary shapes.. Yes please...

2020-10-22 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
>
> Looks like this would be perfect for roughing camshafts prior to heat
> treating and grinding. I bet the guy with the camshaft factory who adapted
> LCNC to control induction heat treaters would be interested in this.


This is what I achieved so far Gregg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjBXa6RHSPQ

The thing is, we have an old landis grinder that can rough those cams in
about 25 seconds (1.5 mm of material to remove in the radius) per lobe
(using 60 grit grinding wheel and dessing it with a high feed). So, we are
waiting until we have a little more time to make a live tooling gig to
rough them (I already have that on paper but didn't have the time to
implement it yet).

Without live tooling it's not that practical to rough the lobes/cams for
production.

El jue., 22 oct. 2020 a las 9:27, Leonardo Marsaglia ()
escribió:

> Yep he is in Chile.
>
>
> Argentina actually. It's similar, but out shores face the atlantic instead
> of the pacific. Also we're closer of being an eleventh world country than
> they are...
>
> El jue., 22 oct. 2020 a las 3:08, andrew beck ()
> escribió:
>
>> Yep he is in Chile.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 6:47 PM Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users <
>> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Looks like this would be perfect for roughing camshafts prior to heat
>> > treating and grinding. I bet the guy with the camshaft factory who
>> adapted
>> > LCNC to control induction heat treaters would be interested in this.
>> >
>> > On Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 9:35:26 PM MDT, Sam Sokolik <
>> > samco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4sKHBh6rDk
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Re: [Emc-users] spindle syncing arbitrary shapes.. Yes please...

2020-10-22 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
>
> Yep he is in Chile.


Argentina actually. It's similar, but out shores face the atlantic instead
of the pacific. Also we're closer of being an eleventh world country than
they are...

El jue., 22 oct. 2020 a las 3:08, andrew beck ()
escribió:

> Yep he is in Chile.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 6:47 PM Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users <
> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
> > Looks like this would be perfect for roughing camshafts prior to heat
> > treating and grinding. I bet the guy with the camshaft factory who
> adapted
> > LCNC to control induction heat treaters would be interested in this.
> >
> > On Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 9:35:26 PM MDT, Sam Sokolik <
> > samco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4sKHBh6rDk
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Re: [Emc-users] spindle syncing arbitrary shapes.. Yes please...

2020-10-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 October 2020 23:32:17 Sam Sokolik wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4sKHBh6rDk
>
Sam is haveing way too much fun again.

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Re: [Emc-users] spindle syncing arbitrary shapes.. Yes please...

2020-10-22 Thread andrew beck
Yep he is in Chile.



On Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 6:47 PM Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users <
emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Looks like this would be perfect for roughing camshafts prior to heat
> treating and grinding. I bet the guy with the camshaft factory who adapted
> LCNC to control induction heat treaters would be interested in this.
>
> On Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 9:35:26 PM MDT, Sam Sokolik <
> samco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4sKHBh6rDk
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Re: [Emc-users] spindle syncing arbitrary shapes.. Yes please...

2020-10-21 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Looks like this would be perfect for roughing camshafts prior to heat treating 
and grinding. I bet the guy with the camshaft factory who adapted LCNC to 
control induction heat treaters would be interested in this.

On Wednesday, October 21, 2020, 9:35:26 PM MDT, Sam Sokolik 
 wrote:  
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4sKHBh6rDk  
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[Emc-users] spindle syncing arbitrary shapes.. Yes please...

2020-10-21 Thread Sam Sokolik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4sKHBh6rDk

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