Re: [Emc-users] 3rd axis for plasma table really needed?

2013-03-29 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Gregg
You will forever regret building a plasma machine without a proper Z 
axis and Torch Height Control (THC). That was the action of the torch 
touching and then retreat to cut that you saw. Without the Z axis you 
will cut some hobby stuff, maybe. To do a proper job of it, the Z axis 
and THC is needed. I service cnc machines that other folk have build for 
themsleves as part of my business and I get to see all kind of problems 
related to plasma machines. I also build my own machines for customers 
and for all the trouble that comes with a plasma machine, I would not do 
without the Z and THC.
There are many other factors as well when it comes to making a good cut. 
Search a bit on constant velocity and plasma's. You will be surprised 
to see the amount of effort that is required do do a proper cut.
Also the Z axis and THC does not cost that much more.
Finally, in my opinion, a plasma without a Z axis is like a fishing 
without a hook. It can be done, but it take much more effort.

On 2013/03/29 01:40 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
 Watched a lot of plasma table action on Youtube last night. All but one had 
 the torch on a z axis mount which raised up between cuts then went down to 
 touch the metal and back up to cutting height before the start of each cut.

 The one that didn't had a simple hand crank to set the height. Other than not 
 having close enough support slats to keep the cutouts from tipping so the 
 torch hit them, it worked as well as the rest, some of which also had the 
 tipping problem.



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Re: [Emc-users] 3rd axis for plasma table really needed?

2013-03-29 Thread andy pugh
On 28 March 2013 23:40, Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The one that didn't had a simple hand crank to set the height. Other than not 
 having close enough support slats to keep the cutouts from tipping so the 
 torch hit them, it worked as well as the rest,

It would probably struggle with this job:
http://youtu.be/aVlAPmMZu3U

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Re: [Emc-users] 3rd axis for plasma table really needed?

2013-03-29 Thread John Thornton
Will it work... well you saw the video and yes it works.

Is it productive and will it produce clean cuts NO!

Can you get started that way if your on a budget Yep.

Can you cut thin material that way Nope.

Can you cut smaller parts after carefully aligning up the torch head and 
material Yep.

When I built my plasma I included a Z axis but didn't have a THC system 
installed. They were all to expensive and complicated to use with EMC. 
But Peter from Mesa came to my rescue and designed the THCAD card. If 
your going to the trouble to build a plasma table the THCAD card is a 
very cost effective solution to the THC problem.

The second most important addition to my plasma cutter was a floating 
torch head with a micro switch to touch off on the material. I jog to my 
start point and hit go, the torch moves down till the micro switch trips 
then moves up to the pierce height, the torch starts, after the pierce 
delay it moves down to the cut height then takes off cutting under the 
control of the thc component which gets feedback from the THCAD card 
indicating the tip voltage.

John

On 3/28/2013 6:40 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
 Watched a lot of plasma table action on Youtube last night. All but one had 
 the torch on a z axis mount which raised up between cuts then went down to 
 touch the metal and back up to cutting height before the start of each cut.

 The one that didn't had a simple hand crank to set the height. Other than not 
 having close enough support slats to keep the cutouts from tipping so the 
 torch hit them, it worked as well as the rest, some of which also had the 
 tipping problem.

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Re: [Emc-users] 3rd axis for plasma table really needed?

2013-03-28 Thread Dave
If you are cutting thinner metal it will warp and the THC is needed for 
that..

Dave

On 3/28/2013 6:40 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
 Watched a lot of plasma table action on Youtube last night. All but one had 
 the torch on a z axis mount which raised up between cuts then went down to 
 touch the metal and back up to cutting height before the start of each cut.

 The one that didn't had a simple hand crank to set the height. Other than not 
 having close enough support slats to keep the cutouts from tipping so the 
 torch hit them, it worked as well as the rest, some of which also had the 
 tipping problem.

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