Re: [Emc-users] Coordinate systems for horizontal spindles
There is probably a post processor setting for X axis direction to accommodate the variation out there. -- Ralph From: andy pugh [bodge...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2022 10:10 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Coordinate systems for horizontal spindles On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 at 18:07, Todd Zuercher wrote: > > I bet that there are a lot of horizontals out there configured backwards. > (Had never really thought about it myself, never worked with one.) I only noticed when I tried using CAM-generated code on a non-symmetrical part with the origin not in the centre. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.sourceforge.net%2Flists%2Flistinfo%2Femc-usersdata=04%7C01%7Cralph.stirling%40wallawalla.edu%7Ccc5265c27a9548be66a208da1bde50e0%7Cd958f048e43142779c8debfb75e7aa64%7C0%7C0%7C637852938896244154%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=EQv07iIlY3Mwm6WN%2FTtYXhvP3AF%2F%2Bv9YkBXAct6AR4U%3Dreserved=0 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Coordinate systems for horizontal spindles
Horizontals typically follow the same right-hand rule as any other machine, it's just that the coordinates are turned normal to the spindle direction (z axis) Phil T. The Feral Engineer Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer Help support my channel efforts and coffee addiction: www.patreon.com/theferalengineer On Mon, Apr 11, 2022, 2:23 PM andy pugh wrote: > On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 at 18:21, Sam Sokolik wrote: > > > > Lol - I always make sure that when I am visualizing a piece of graph > paper > > on the machine - when I command a positive for both x and y - the tool > > would move up and to the right on the paper.. (and Z negative gets the > > tool closer to the part) > > You are the only other LinuxCNC user that I know of with a horizontal > spindle milling machine. (Though I think that Stuart S used to have > one?) > > -- > atp > "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is > designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and > lunatics." > — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Coordinate systems for horizontal spindles
On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 at 18:21, Sam Sokolik wrote: > > Lol - I always make sure that when I am visualizing a piece of graph paper > on the machine - when I command a positive for both x and y - the tool > would move up and to the right on the paper.. (and Z negative gets the > tool closer to the part) You are the only other LinuxCNC user that I know of with a horizontal spindle milling machine. (Though I think that Stuart S used to have one?) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Coordinate systems for horizontal spindles
I try to not look at the moving bits - that gets confusing.. On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 12:18 PM Sam Sokolik wrote: > Lol - I always make sure that when I am visualizing a piece of graph paper > on the machine - when I command a positive for both x and y - the tool > would move up and to the right on the paper.. (and Z negative gets the > tool closer to the part) > > sam > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 12:07 PM Todd Zuercher > wrote: > >> I bet that there are a lot of horizontals out there configured backwards. >> (Had never really thought about it myself, never worked with one.) >> >> Todd Zuercher >> P. Graham Dunn Inc. >> 630 Henry Street >> Dalton, Ohio 44618 >> Phone: (330)828-2105ext. 2031 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: andy pugh >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2022 12:22 PM >> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) >> Subject: [Emc-users] Coordinate systems for horizontal spindles >> >> [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. >> >> I realised last night that the coordinate system on my mill is incorrect >> when I run the horizontal spindle. >> >> Curiously nearly every diagram that I can find online also seems to be >> incorrect. Or, at least, ambiguous. >> >> >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.app.goo.gl%2FXuzUowMJyK3ffabD9data=04%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7Ce7b1ea09f6664d3146e308da1bd7be7a%7C5758544c573f47cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637852910703088784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=Vq2wnD%2FHC2j960X0o2xNMplBhRstQ%2FJggAdlnqtKTVE%3Dreserved=0 >> = Ambiguous >> >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.app.goo.gl%2FiczsGEAgDueBfnCT9data=04%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7Ce7b1ea09f6664d3146e308da1bd7be7a%7C5758544c573f47cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637852910703088784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=N52HdspbmvhOdw%2BjnqoVksBY1VbGA%2B27UJjat8zG5ME%3Dreserved=0 >> = Left-handed >> >> And: >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.app.goo.gl%2FdSkmwhBPRojMJXdx8data=04%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7Ce7b1ea09f6664d3146e308da1bd7be7a%7C5758544c573f47cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637852910703088784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=VxL%2B02cEd5j%2BqADBgGG5RdhINmX3rzvTBUrBBIXFLio%3Dreserved=0 >> = Correct... >> >> It's taken me 10 years to notice, but I am going to have to reverse my X >> axis in horizontal mode. >> >> -- >> atp >> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed >> for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." >> - George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 >> >> >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.sourceforge.net%2Flists%2Flistinfo%2Femc-usersdata=04%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7Ce7b1ea09f6664d3146e308da1bd7be7a%7C5758544c573f47cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637852910703088784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=VZmWPRkt%2Bk4aO5svD96KFi8rTin3D8qzWKNHuEQiBjU%3Dreserved=0 >> >> >> ___ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Coordinate systems for horizontal spindles
Lol - I always make sure that when I am visualizing a piece of graph paper on the machine - when I command a positive for both x and y - the tool would move up and to the right on the paper.. (and Z negative gets the tool closer to the part) sam On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 12:07 PM Todd Zuercher wrote: > I bet that there are a lot of horizontals out there configured backwards. > (Had never really thought about it myself, never worked with one.) > > Todd Zuercher > P. Graham Dunn Inc. > 630 Henry Street > Dalton, Ohio 44618 > Phone: (330)828-2105ext. 2031 > > -Original Message- > From: andy pugh > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2022 12:22 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: [Emc-users] Coordinate systems for horizontal spindles > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. > > I realised last night that the coordinate system on my mill is incorrect > when I run the horizontal spindle. > > Curiously nearly every diagram that I can find online also seems to be > incorrect. Or, at least, ambiguous. > > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.app.goo.gl%2FXuzUowMJyK3ffabD9data=04%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7Ce7b1ea09f6664d3146e308da1bd7be7a%7C5758544c573f47cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637852910703088784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=Vq2wnD%2FHC2j960X0o2xNMplBhRstQ%2FJggAdlnqtKTVE%3Dreserved=0 > = Ambiguous > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.app.goo.gl%2FiczsGEAgDueBfnCT9data=04%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7Ce7b1ea09f6664d3146e308da1bd7be7a%7C5758544c573f47cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637852910703088784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=N52HdspbmvhOdw%2BjnqoVksBY1VbGA%2B27UJjat8zG5ME%3Dreserved=0 > = Left-handed > > And: > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.app.goo.gl%2FdSkmwhBPRojMJXdx8data=04%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7Ce7b1ea09f6664d3146e308da1bd7be7a%7C5758544c573f47cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637852910703088784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=VxL%2B02cEd5j%2BqADBgGG5RdhINmX3rzvTBUrBBIXFLio%3Dreserved=0 > = Correct... > > It's taken me 10 years to notice, but I am going to have to reverse my X > axis in horizontal mode. > > -- > atp > "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed > for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." > - George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.sourceforge.net%2Flists%2Flistinfo%2Femc-usersdata=04%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7Ce7b1ea09f6664d3146e308da1bd7be7a%7C5758544c573f47cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637852910703088784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=VZmWPRkt%2Bk4aO5svD96KFi8rTin3D8qzWKNHuEQiBjU%3Dreserved=0 > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Coordinate systems for horizontal spindles
On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 at 18:07, Todd Zuercher wrote: > > I bet that there are a lot of horizontals out there configured backwards. > (Had never really thought about it myself, never worked with one.) I only noticed when I tried using CAM-generated code on a non-symmetrical part with the origin not in the centre. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Coordinate systems for horizontal spindles
I bet that there are a lot of horizontals out there configured backwards. (Had never really thought about it myself, never worked with one.) Todd Zuercher P. Graham Dunn Inc. 630 Henry Street Dalton, Ohio 44618 Phone: (330)828-2105ext. 2031 -Original Message- From: andy pugh Sent: Monday, April 11, 2022 12:22 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] Coordinate systems for horizontal spindles [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. I realised last night that the coordinate system on my mill is incorrect when I run the horizontal spindle. Curiously nearly every diagram that I can find online also seems to be incorrect. Or, at least, ambiguous. https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.app.goo.gl%2FXuzUowMJyK3ffabD9data=04%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7Ce7b1ea09f6664d3146e308da1bd7be7a%7C5758544c573f47cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637852910703088784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=Vq2wnD%2FHC2j960X0o2xNMplBhRstQ%2FJggAdlnqtKTVE%3Dreserved=0 = Ambiguous https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.app.goo.gl%2FiczsGEAgDueBfnCT9data=04%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7Ce7b1ea09f6664d3146e308da1bd7be7a%7C5758544c573f47cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637852910703088784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=N52HdspbmvhOdw%2BjnqoVksBY1VbGA%2B27UJjat8zG5ME%3Dreserved=0 = Left-handed And: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.app.goo.gl%2FdSkmwhBPRojMJXdx8data=04%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7Ce7b1ea09f6664d3146e308da1bd7be7a%7C5758544c573f47cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637852910703088784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=VxL%2B02cEd5j%2BqADBgGG5RdhINmX3rzvTBUrBBIXFLio%3Dreserved=0 = Correct... It's taken me 10 years to notice, but I am going to have to reverse my X axis in horizontal mode. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." - George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.sourceforge.net%2Flists%2Flistinfo%2Femc-usersdata=04%7C01%7Ctoddz%40pgrahamdunn.com%7Ce7b1ea09f6664d3146e308da1bd7be7a%7C5758544c573f47cebee96c3e0806fb43%7C0%7C0%7C637852910703088784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=VZmWPRkt%2Bk4aO5svD96KFi8rTin3D8qzWKNHuEQiBjU%3Dreserved=0 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
