Re: [Emc-users] trash collection

[gene heskett]

On 10/4/23 11:51, Jon Elson wrote:

On 10/4/23 05:39, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote:
How would that be handled if plastic pipe was used to build a large 
pipe organ?


On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 11:07:50 AM MDT, Todd Zuercher 
 wrote:


Remember, blowing large quantities of air though PVC plumbing can 
build up "entertaining" amounts of static charge.


Its actually not the air, but particles pushed along by the air. Dust 
collectors moving lots of sawdust are famous for starting fires.  So, I 
don't think the pipe organ would be subject to the same issue.


Jon


Which is why the hose from my planer to the dust collector is aluminum 
dryer hose, and grounded to the dust collector.  No problem then.



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Re: [Emc-users] trash collection

[Jon Elson]

On 10/4/23 05:39, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote:

How would that be handled if plastic pipe was used to build a large pipe organ?

On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 11:07:50 AM MDT, Todd Zuercher 
 wrote:

Remember, blowing large quantities of air though PVC plumbing can build up 
"entertaining" amounts of static charge.


Its actually not the air, but particles pushed along by the 
air. Dust collectors moving lots of sawdust are famous for 
starting fires.  So, I don't think the pipe organ would be 
subject to the same issue.


Jon



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Re: [Emc-users] trash collection

[gene heskett]

On 10/4/23 06:41, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote:

How would that be handled if plastic pipe was used to build a large pipe organ?

Probably by the decorative paint used to cover the sewer pipe, That and 
the fact that in tho pipe organ I have crawled around in, those big 
pipes are quite well out of public reach. No one but the organ builder 
might come close enough to them to be affected.



On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 11:07:50 AM MDT, Todd Zuercher 
 wrote:

Remember, blowing large quantities of air though PVC plumbing can build up 
"entertaining" amounts of static charge.


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Re: [Emc-users] trash collection

[Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users]

How would that be handled if plastic pipe was used to build a large pipe organ?

On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 11:07:50 AM MDT, Todd Zuercher 
 wrote: 

Remember, blowing large quantities of air though PVC plumbing can build up 
"entertaining" amounts of static charge.


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Re: [Emc-users] trash collection

[Todd Zuercher]

Remember, blowing large quantities of air though PVC plumbing can build up 
"entertaining" amounts of static charge.

Todd Zuercher
P. Graham Dunn Inc.
630 Henry Street
Dalton, Ohio 44618
Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031

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From: gene heskett 
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On 10/2/23 23:19, gene heskett wrote:
> On 10/2/23 11:06, andy pugh wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 15:41, Todd Zuercher  wrote:
>>
>>> What I think I would do is build a multi chambered box similar to a
>>> car muffler,
>>
>> Or, in fact, a car muffler
>>
> I considered that too Andy, but the chances of finding a suitably
> short one takes considerable search time, so I went to Lowes and
> picked up enough pvc sched40 pipe and have the stuff nearly all
> printed already to make 2 of these out of 3 pieces of 2 foot pipe, 2",
> 3" and 4" in diameter. 1st one s/b done by 4AM.
>
> That is the beauty of 3d printing, you can make what you can measure.
> In this case moving stuff around for clearance to other stuff in the
> environment it has to work in.
>
Further updates. I'll send pix but no matter what size I scrunch them down to, 
JK rejects them.  Why is that? I'll attach some png's from OpenSCAD anyway cuz 
a pix is worth 10,000 words. The 3 combined is only around 63k.

This fits the old style shop-vac bucket-vac with both ports facing up.
I assemble this using 1 foot of a 2 foot piece of 4" sched40 as the outer hull. 
the inner 2 inch and 3 inch pieces will need to be cut to 10 3/8", 1 & 5/8" 
shorter.

The internal offset is driven by the clearance to the intake port and to the 
motor housing on top of my older style bucket-vac. The top end of the 2" 
section will have 4, 1 in holes drilled in the side with a hole saw to function 
as the 2 inch to the clearance between the 2 inch and 3 inch sections. The end 
of the 3 inch fits in the notches cut in the locating dividers which serves as 
the 3 inch to 4 inch transition.

The rest will be sawed to length on my Bosch cantilevered chop saw. I can make 
more of these end pieces if someone else needs them. PM me for details.

Take care & stay well, all.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
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  - Louis D. Brandeis
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Re: [Emc-users] trash collection

[gene heskett]

On 10/2/23 23:19, gene heskett wrote:

On 10/2/23 11:06, andy pugh wrote:

On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 15:41, Todd Zuercher  wrote:

What I think I would do is build a multi chambered box similar to a 
car muffler,


Or, in fact, a car muffler

I considered that too Andy, but the chances of finding a suitably short 
one takes considerable search time, so I went to Lowes and picked up 
enough pvc sched40 pipe and have the stuff nearly all printed already to 
make 2 of these out of 3 pieces of 2 foot pipe, 2", 3" and 4" in 
diameter. 1st one s/b done by 4AM.


That is the beauty of 3d printing, you can make what you can measure. In 
this case moving stuff around for clearance to other stuff in the 
environment it has to work in.


Further updates. I'll send pix but no matter what size I scrunch them 
down to, JK rejects them.  Why is that? I'll attach some png's from 
OpenSCAD anyway cuz a pix is worth 10,000 words. The 3 combined is only 
around 63k.


This fits the old style shop-vac bucket-vac with both ports facing up.
I assemble this using 1 foot of a 2 foot piece of 4" sched40 as the 
outer hull. the inner 2 inch and 3 inch pieces will need to be cut to 10 
3/8", 1 & 5/8" shorter.


The internal offset is driven by the clearance to the intake port and to 
the motor housing on top of my older style bucket-vac. The top end of 
the 2" section will have 4, 1 in holes drilled in the side with a hole 
saw to function as the 2 inch to the clearance between the 2 inch and 3 
inch sections. The end of the 3 inch fits in the notches cut in the 
locating dividers which serves as the 3 inch to 4 inch transition.


The rest will be sawed to length on my Bosch cantilevered chop saw. I 
can make more of these end pieces if someone else needs them. PM me for 
details.


Take care & stay well, all.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 
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Re: [Emc-users] trash collection

[gene heskett]

On 10/2/23 11:06, andy pugh wrote:

On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 15:41, Todd Zuercher  wrote:


What I think I would do is build a multi chambered box similar to a car muffler,


Or, in fact, a car muffler

I considered that too Andy, but the chances of finding a suitably short 
one takes considerable search time, so I went to Lowes and picked up 
enough pvc sched40 pipe and have the stuff nearly all printed already to 
make 2 of these out of 3 pieces of 2 foot pipe, 2", 3" and 4" in 
diameter. 1st one s/b done by 4AM.


That is the beauty of 3d printing, you can make what you can measure. In 
this case moving stuff around for clearance to other stuff in the 
environment it has to work in.


Take care and stay well, Andy.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 



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Re: [Emc-users] trash collection

[andy pugh]

On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 15:41, Todd Zuercher  wrote:

> What I think I would do is build a multi chambered box similar to a car 
> muffler,

Or, in fact, a car muffler

-- 
atp
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designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
lunatics."
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Re: [Emc-users] trash collection

[Todd Zuercher]

Gene,

What I think I would do is build a multi chambered box similar to a car 
muffler, with some fiberglass insulation or soft open cell foam lining the 
walls.  But not stuffing it full, just a layer on the walls.

Todd Zuercher
P. Graham Dunn Inc.
630 Henry Street
Dalton, Ohio 44618
Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031

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Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2023 10:20 AM
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Greetings all;

I've converted my vacuum setup for the go704 mill from my shop made extra 
cyclone separator to the hf version, which is tapered like a proper cyclone 
using the new, bigger and better built 12' hose I got from Lowes to reach a 
printed nose piece on the mill, works better than ever, swarf plugged up the 
cheap & too small hose that came with the bucket vac. Now I'm in need of an 
exhaust muffler for the bucket-vac, and I didn't find anything suitable on 
thingiverse.

So what have the rest of you cobbled up to quiet the bucket vac? 2" OD sched 40 
fits its exhaust port. Listening to that for 2 hours non-stop is quite 
annoying, even headache inducing.

Thanks for any ideas.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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