Re: [-empyre-] kentridge at moma

2010-03-06 Thread Renate Ferro
Tim and are are looking forward to seeing the exhibit during our Spring
break in a couple of weeks.  It has been reported to me that the SFMOMA
exhibit was quite spectacular and it will be interesting to see what the
reception is in NY.  Thanks for the preview.  Renate


 One if the most moving aspects of the kentridge exhibition -- which
 takes several visits it's so extensive-- is how
 Well the animation is treated as an art object. It's magnificent . I
 hope you all can visit who aren't in NYC. It's all very organic -- the
 animations in their rooms with open access ( but it's not distracting
 having people come and go) are huge and so different than when small.
 Less scrappier. More monumental. More theatrical as i would assume he
 prefers. I guess.immersive. There will be some people who might prefer
 them smaller, more intimate and as I write both are true -- it has to
 do with the tear rather than the cut. His animation called mine
 though, is magical un the sense of moving beyond the process and
 hits  that pit between awe and ow and just letting one's breath out --
 it's the way ihe uses erasing as opposed to ( or with ir as) drawing
 to creatve space and the claustrophobia of the mine. The coal. Drawing
 from the darkness in a way. It reminded me of what Leonardo said about
 painting light -- it's the darkness not the light. Anyway -- I was
 just struck by the perfect match between subject matter, process, and
 the erasing drawing animation.

 The show has his 7 parts to melies as an installation too and a
 gorgeous small book called trace by Judith hecker, which if you
 can't get to the show order. The catalogue comes with a DVD .
 Thyrza
 P.s
 Hoping to see animated feature the book of kells before oscars
 tomorrow . Has anyone seen it?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 2, 2010, at 10:29 PM, christopher sullivan csu...@saic.edu
 wrote:


 Again Simon you are not going to the right restaurant.
 There is magic out there. Chris.

 Quoting Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk:

 I didn¹t say 50/50. Sometimes somebody gives more. One hopes it is
  the
 artist, but it isn¹t always the case. In fact, most of the time I
 get the
 feeling I am giving more than I am receiving when it comes to
 popular media.

 Simon Biggs

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 From: christopher sullivan csu...@saic.edu
 Date: Tue,  2 Mar 2010 12:16:37 -0600
 To: Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk
 Cc: soft_skinned_space empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
 Subject: Re: [-empyre-] animation and short term memory (was, a
 long time
 ago: interpreting datasets, etc)


 I agree that the moment of interchange is the defining moment, but
 I do not
 go
 with the idea that the writer and the reader are 50 50 in the
 interchange.
 I actually like being overwhelmed by art, It is what feels best to
 me. I am
 not
 quibbling, I just feel different, I like work made by really smart
 complex
 people, and I do not have a need to democratize the giver and
 receiver.
 for instance I am not frustrated when watching football, that I am
 not
 actually
 running the ball, I am truly engaged as an observer, and as a reader,
 watcher,
 but I feel connection but not an even one. Animation is very
 particular like
 this, because it is such a place of amazing craft.
 I cannot through a football 60 yards, that is OK.
 of course diversity in thought is important. Chris


 Quoting Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk:

 I am quite a fan of Latour¹s formulation of expanded agency and
 Ingold¹s
 reading of the Deleuzian idea of becoming, where creation is
 located in
 the
 process of exchange that occurs at the moment the art work comes
 into
 being.
 This assumes that the art work only comes into being when it is
 received,
 not when it is produced (although these things can be the same
 thing ­
 they
 have to be the same thing) and that the work is to be found not in
 the
 artefact but in its exchange. The reader and writer only come into
 being
 at
 this moment too. In this view there is little reason to quibble
 over who
 did
 what. The reader and the writer are both implicated in the
 outcome. This
 was
 Derrida¹s point. I do not find this a dry proposition at all  qu
 ite the
 opposite. It is a field of complex interplays that is rich in
 nuance,
 contradiction, conflict and synergy. Random is just another word for
 complex
 ;)

 Best

 Simon


 Simon Biggs

 s.bi...@eca.ac.uk  si...@littlepig.org.uk  Skype: simonbiggsuk
 http://www.littlepig.org.uk/
 Research Professor  edinburgh college of art  http://www.eca.ac.uk/
 Creative Interdisciplinary Research into CoLlaborative Environments
 http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/
 Electronic Literature as a 

Re: [-empyre-] Theorizing Animation--Thank you!

2010-03-06 Thread christopher sullivan
Thanks Renate, and thanks to all of our guests, and vocal participants,
Christiane Robbins, Kim Collmer, Julian Oliver, Christina Spiesel, Simon
Biggs,
and anyone I missed.
hope you all keep your hands in the works. think with our minds and our hearts,

and don't forget of course the Birth, Love, Sex and Death, thing. use the middle
ones a lot, and the Birth and Death sparingly. all good things ,Chris.. 



Quoting Renate Ferro r...@cornell.edu:

 As we wrap up our extended February discussion on Theorizing Animation:
 Concept and Context
 I would like to thank our special guests for the month:
 Thomas LaMarre (CA), Lev Manovich (UK), Suzanne Buchan (UK), Paul Ward
 (UK), Eric Patrick (US), Richard Wright (UK), Thyrza  Nichols Goodeve
 (US), Christopher Sullivan (US), and Melanie Beisswenger (SG), and Eileen
 Reynolds (SG)
 
 You have all participated with such generous spirits and contributed to an
 incredibly diverse and interesting month that I can say that we all have
 gained insight into this phenomenon in ways I never expected when we set
 out to introduce the topic.  Yes animation is proliferating globally. 
 It's definition keeps expanding exponentially and its appeal is fracturing
 the boundary between lo and hi art as demonstrated by its omnipresence on
 the internet as well as its inclusion in global contemporary museum
 exhibitions around the world.
 
 While some of our guests curated or theorized others of you create
 cinematic interventions,
 experimental narratives or abstract animated paintings. It has been
 demonstrated that the field of animation is broad and continually changing
 as its techniques and technology grow and shift.
 
 Thanks to all of our subscribers who wrote posts or followed along.  We
 continually get requests for new subscribers which demonstrates to both
 Tim and I how important and viable this soft-skinned space of -empyre is. 
 For now I thank all of you again and hope you will stay tuned for Gabriel
 Menotti who will be introducing our next topic on Prototyping on Monday,
 March 8th.
 
 Best to all of you.
 Renate Ferro
 
 
 
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