Re: [-empyre-] transforming human culture and the ideosphere through collective intellectuality

2011-07-31 Thread magnus
With these most recent discussions and Michel's perspective I am now
keeping in mind a picture of carpenters refitting the inside decks of a
ship. Because of changing priorities and changing organizational
structures, substantial repartitioning is taking place.

Best wishes,

Magnus

 yes, I agree, the map is definitely not the territory, and we know from
 neoclassical economics how much reality can be abstracted away from
 models,
 whose fictionality then becomes the real basis for atrocious policy-making
 ...

 personally, I have found the relational modelling of Alan Page Fiske to be
 the most clear and usable,

 see http://p2pfoundation.net/Relational_Model_Typology_-_Fiske ; to
 understand peer dynamics in particular, the thesis of communal
 shareholding
 is much more explanatory than the gift economy analogies usually banded
 about,

 Michel

 On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Simon Biggs si...@littlepig.org.uk
 wrote:

 Hi Michel

 You are right, I find the turquiose diagram closer to my own model. I
 also
 agree that the yellow one is quite scary.

 On a slightly different note, I find it interesting that we find it
 easier
 to represent relational models, such as social structures, through
 images
 rather than words. An argument for visual forms of knowledge.
 Nevertheless,
 such reductive graphics seem to be missing much of the nuanced detail
 I'd
 like to see before any of them start to come close to how one can
 apprehend
 human relations. I'm not suggesting that the visual cannot present this
 subtle level of information. It can. Breughel's paintings of crowd
 scenes do
 this quite well. It is just that when the image becomes as abstracted as
 words something is lost. The spaces between words foster our imagination
 but
 these spaces do not exist in diagrams like these.

 best

 Simon


 On 30 Jul 2011, at 07:23, Michel Bauwens wrote:

 ok, I get your point better now!

 Simon, perhaps you'd be interested in having a look at this,
 http://www.calresco.org/wp/spiral.htm

 in particular the graphic, more at the bottom of the article, at the
 right
 hand of the subtitle, 
 Connectivity Styles - controlling, ignoring or sharing
 i.e. http://www.calresco.org/wp/matrix.gif

 what I like about it, is that we can look at fully p2p networks in a
 technology sense, only from our specific point of view or form of
 awareness

 in my view, a fully p2p form of awareness, is what the author calls
 'Turquoise' ( bottom middle)

 Perhaps Kimura looks at the network from a yellow point of view, and you
 at
 a turquoise point of view, as a possible hypothesis ...

 Please note I just show this as a reference,not that I fully agree,
 especially as the author assumes the most evolved form to be
 'guru-centric',
 or at least it seems that way from the picture,

 here is what he writes on that picture:

 

 When we look at the 9 vMemes as complex systems, in terms of their
 connectivity approaches, then we see a number of different styles. At *
 beige* the people are isolated from each other, they behave
 independently
 as do plants in the wild, here there are no social benefits to speak of,
 meetings between the individuals are rare and likely to be competitive.
 [image:
 Connectivity Matrix] At *purple* the leaders cooperate, bringing a
 consensus rule to the local group and controlling by loyalty, whilst the
 tribe loosely associate with each other, giving a 'symbiosis' approach
 for
 mutual benefit. Yet all groups remain disconnected and local. At *red*
 we
 see the first true hierarchy, with a single leader, aided by underlings,
 ruling by physical force. In this local society power flows down and
 resources flow up, the rich take from the poor. Justice here is
 arbitrary,
 based upon the whim of the leader, it is a style rich in
 unpredictability.
 Many societies compete for power.

 Once we get to *blue* the emphasis changes to a bureaucracy, an
 inflexible
 hierarchy based upon the
 psychologicalhttp://www.calresco.org/lucas/global.htmforces of belief
 and the strong use of rules or laws to structure justice
 and order at both local and global levels. At *orange* local two-way
 transactions between participants comes to the fore, and we gain the
 benefits of exchange, with a freedom to decide whether or not to accept
 or
 make any offer. This is potentially a fully connected and somewhat
 chaotic
 matrix with global aspirations. Within the *green* worldview the focus
 shifts to more intangible ideas and small isolated consensus groups
 'doing
 their own thing' as it were, but each competing to try to impose their *
 single* value globally upon all. It is a highly modular approach.

 A change now occurs as *yellow* arrives, and the first stage of 2nd tier
 'vision logic' is seen. These people act as facilitators (shown in
 white),
 acting locally to bind together the six 1st tier vMemes and to encourage
 the use of the most appropriate vMeme. At *turquoise* networks of such
 facilitators coordinate actions 

[-empyre-] [Fwd: Re: mindful inquiry]

2011-07-31 Thread magnus
Michel, Many thanks for these further thoughts:

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: mindful inquiry
From:Michel Bauwens mic...@p2pfoundation.net
Date:Sun, July 31, 2011 4:28 pm
To:  mag...@ditch.org.uk
Cc:  s.bi...@eca.ac.uk
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On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 8:32 PM, mag...@ditch.org.uk wrote:


 http://books.google.com/books/about/Mindful_inquiry_in_social_research.html?id=AF6WWgtNshoC


 http://adhi301126117.wordpress.com/2010/06/28/mindful-inquiry-and-action-research/

 With these I am just wondering in (a very unresolved way) about the
 ideosphere and the bridging you mention...


Magnus asked me what I thought of 'mindful inquiry' ... I was not familiar
with this particular tradition, but I'm quite fond of the model of
cooperative inquiry by John Heron, really one of my intellectual heroes,

(more at http://p2pfoundation.net/P2P_Public_Intellectuals,
http://p2pfoundation.net/Commons-Oriented_Economists, and
http://p2pfoundation.net/Association_of_Peer_to_Peer_Researchers)

who gives an explicitely p2p formulation of research: (more at
http://p2pfoundation.net/Cooperative_Inquiry)

A radical peer-to-peer research method, also called collaborative inquiry,
originated by John Heron between 1968 and 1981, and now regarded as one of
the most well-developed of the family of action research approaches. It has
been applied in a wide range of contexts: in medical practice, nursing,
midwifery, social work, management, organizational development, community
development, adult and continuing education, living together, human
spirituality, co-counselling, obesity, diabetes, racism, gender, women in
mid-life, social justice leadership, and more.

In traditional research on people, the roles of researcher and subject are
mutually exclusive. The researcher only contributes the thinking that goes
into the project, and the subjects only contribute the action to be studied.
In co-operative inquiry these exclusive roles are replaced by a co-operative
relationship of bilateral initiative and control, so that all those involved
work together as co-researchers and as co-subjects. They both design, manage
and draw conclusions from the inquiry, and undergo the experience and action
that is being explored. This is not research on people, but research with
people.


My hunch is that a distinct p2p approach would combine a strong dose of
object-orientation (http://p2pfoundation.net/Social_Object, i.e. the object,
not the discipline determines the research approach), which automatically
means transdisciplinarity, http://p2pfoundation.net/Transdisciplinarity,
coupled with both individual and collective self-reflexivity).

Here is a nice rundown of the 'evolution' towards transdisciplinarity:

Of course, I didn't spend nearly enough time in academia to make any strong
claims in this field, but this is how I pretty intuitively wrote a small
introduction to an association of p2p researchers we would like to create:


The idea is to create a research group centering around understanding the
'object' of emerging peer to peer dynamics, and more particularly the
emerging forms of peer production, governance and property, and the
associated paradigms of openness, participation, and commons-orientation.

The idea is to combine academic standards and the best of the academic
tradition, but to combine it with a few augmentations:

   - opening up to the participation of non-academics as long as academic
   standards can be observed
   - opening up to more participatory or inclusive forms of peer review
   - commitment to publishing in open access formats wherever possible
   - commitment to human emancipation, i.e. the research is combined with a
   positive charge of achieving a more just society, broadly defined as a
   society that allows more free interactions between its members
   - to be independent but also aligned with the p2p knowledge commons of
   the P2P Foundation
   - to be a group which aims for the mutual support of p2p researchers,
   including aiming at the 'sustainability' of such research
   - to promote the diffusion of knowledge of p2p dynamics, particularly the
   research from its own members


I'm very strong on the intuitive idea that we all shine a partial light on
any object, and that we need each other to approach the truth.

I do not discount materialist objectivity at all, but don't see how it can
be divorced from epistemological self-reflexivity in order to understand
what it is we are willing to see, or not.

Ken Wilber once made a difference between the eye of the flesh (mind seeing
matter, needing objectivity), the eye of the mind (mind's seeing each other,
needing some form of hermeneutics) and the eye of the spirit (the no-mind
seeing the mind, as it 'witnessing meditation' etc.., needs intersubjective
validation of the experience with the numinous). I think a combination 

[-empyre-] Fwd: August on -empyre signing off

2011-07-31 Thread Renate Ferro
Yes, thanks Simon!  May we all have a joyful and fun filled August.  Many
thanks to Simon for taking charge this past month for a truly interesting
and busy month on empyre.  -empyre- soft-skinned space is taking the month
of August off-line.  Our plans are to return to you in early September for a
month long discussion  hosted by four of the members of the moderating team:
 Tim Murray, Patrick Lichty, Simon Biggs and myself.  Excitingly, the four
of us will be hosting from  the 14th of September to the 20th at the  ISEA
conference in Istanbul, Turkey.We are hoping to see many of you there.  More
details will follow at the beginning of September.  In the meantime best
wishes to all of you.

Renate Ferro and Tim Murray
co-moderators, -empyre soft-ekinned space


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