Re: [-empyre-] high/low art economies

2010-02-12 Thread Renate Ferro
Dear Suzanne,

Many thanks for bringing up the issue of animation within the context of
the museum.  A few months ago the Whitney Museum in NYC hosted the
animated project Play/Pause, an array of double screened animated
paintings set to a musical score by Sadie Benning.  In December, the
Museum of Modern Art in NY featured the blockbuster multi-media work of
Tim Burton.  In the catalog's introduction, Burton admits that the museum
was the very last place he expected his work to reside.  Tim Murray and I
visited the exhibition twice.  It was so crowded on both occasions not
only were we unable to see the work but we left the museum early because
of the hoards of tourists that gravitated to what I perceive is a show
that was launched to lure the viewer who ordinarily opted out of buying an
entrance ticket.

Those of us in close proximity of NY are looking forward to the opening of
William Kentridge's show at the MOMA but also his collaboration at the Met
for his artistic intervention into the opera The Nose.

So I agree that the work fuzzy is most appropriate for the broad
interdisciplinary/multi/mixed media that animation encompasses.  The
low/high divide is dissipating in the US because of economics.  Bringing
popular culture into institutions that usually feature high art is a
strategic way to broaden the demographics of the viewers.  Perhaps the
Tate and the MOMA will include the Quay Brothers phenomenal work sooner
than later.

Renate



 I'm very glad to be 'here' with you and all involved in this empyre
 thread. (I hope this post doesn't turn into overlong lines that you need
 to scroll to read - if so I'll try to rectify this in the next one)
 I'd like to briefly pick up on what Paul wrote about 'fuzzy' terms - the
 reason for posting this is to encourage people to consider the complexity
 of techniques and forms that fall under that umbrella, and to give some
 regard for the hundreds of genres that the form can express. It is most
 pointedly *not* a genre.
 For example,   The Library of Congress Moving Image Genre-Form Guide
 allocates animation as one of three Sublists (the others are Experimental
 and Advertising) that is classified in Subdivisions according to
 techniques and technologies. This is unusual in that other genres are
 described with historical, ideological, aesthetic or content-based
 terminologies:

 http://www.loc.gov/rr/mopic/migsub.html#Animation

 It is much like the troublesome term 'experimental film'. . In September
 last year, a ListSERVE debate ensued around a call for proposal for the
 FSAC Film Genre Series, two of which were anime (which is a genre) and
 experimental film. A discussion ensued, and Jeffrey Skoller for UC
 Berkeley offered up some valuable arguments for the case against
 ‘genrification’ of experimental film. Analogous to the Cinema  Media
 Studies Special Interest group Ex-FM (that founder Michael Zryd asked me
 to be a founding member of precisely because of animation's 'fuzziness')
 members’ concerns about experimental film the very fuzzy term of
 'animation' needs unpacking and redefining into a number of related areas
 of critical engagement and authorship

 An example for this is Stan Vanderbeek's collage and cutout film work (the
 next issue of animation: an interdiciplinary journal - ANM for short -
 will be a special issue on him). Vanderbeek's animation films are
 'experimental' but they can also be allocated to genres of  dark comedy,
 activist, diary, lyrical, reflexive, public affairs, war (using the LoC's
 gernres). Many animation films express social critique, political satire,
 commodity culture, gender, issues of representation, for instance Martha
 Coburn, Paul Vester, George Griffin,Vera Neubauer and many more.

 So 'fuzzy' terms can be a good thing, they can also be a disservice to the
 multliplicity of styles, content and form, not to mention the multiple
 platforms animation is increasingly using. Part of my concern with the
 term is to do with the artefact - another theme you were interesting in
 pursuing here - and the (improving) high/low art divide between 'serious'
 and 'art' animation. William Kentridge and Robin Rhode are to my
 knowledge, two of the few  'animation' artists to actually break through
 this divide. Why aren't the Quay brother's works in Tate Modern? Why do
 they screen Fischli  Weiss, but not Jerzy Kucia's or the Quays' works in
 the same contexts? An example is their currently touring DORMITORIUM
 exhibition, that was recently at Cornell.

 There is a long way to go to correct a common perception that animation is
 not art. On the BBC’s website, one reviewer of the 2007 exhibition
 Momentary Momentum: Animated Drawings at Parasol Unit Foundation for
 Contemporary Art, London (which includes Kentridge and Rhode), states, “It
 would be wrong to refer to these works as just ‘animations.’”  ( Francesca
 Gavin, “Moving Drawings at London’s Parasol Unit,” Collective: The
 Interactive Culture Magazine, March 8, 2007,

Re: [-empyre-] high/low art economies

2010-02-12 Thread christopher sullivan

Hi Renate, I am joining next week, but the website still has some kind of
permission block, can you send me the exact wed site with password if needed, I
also don't mind just doing reply all, and having you post it. 
I will be jumping in sunday night or monday. Chris. 

Quoting Renate Ferro r...@cornell.edu:

 Dear Suzanne,
 
 Many thanks for bringing up the issue of animation within the context of
 the museum.  A few months ago the Whitney Museum in NYC hosted the
 animated project Play/Pause, an array of double screened animated
 paintings set to a musical score by Sadie Benning.  In December, the
 Museum of Modern Art in NY featured the blockbuster multi-media work of
 Tim Burton.  In the catalog's introduction, Burton admits that the museum
 was the very last place he expected his work to reside.  Tim Murray and I
 visited the exhibition twice.  It was so crowded on both occasions not
 only were we unable to see the work but we left the museum early because
 of the hoards of tourists that gravitated to what I perceive is a show
 that was launched to lure the viewer who ordinarily opted out of buying an
 entrance ticket.
 
 Those of us in close proximity of NY are looking forward to the opening of
 William Kentridge's show at the MOMA but also his collaboration at the Met
 for his artistic intervention into the opera The Nose.
 
 So I agree that the work fuzzy is most appropriate for the broad
 interdisciplinary/multi/mixed media that animation encompasses.  The
 low/high divide is dissipating in the US because of economics.  Bringing
 popular culture into institutions that usually feature high art is a
 strategic way to broaden the demographics of the viewers.  Perhaps the
 Tate and the MOMA will include the Quay Brothers phenomenal work sooner
 than later.
 
 Renate
 
 
 
  I'm very glad to be 'here' with you and all involved in this empyre
  thread. (I hope this post doesn't turn into overlong lines that you need
  to scroll to read - if so I'll try to rectify this in the next one)
  I'd like to briefly pick up on what Paul wrote about 'fuzzy' terms - the
  reason for posting this is to encourage people to consider the complexity
  of techniques and forms that fall under that umbrella, and to give some
  regard for the hundreds of genres that the form can express. It is most
  pointedly *not* a genre.
  For example,   The Library of Congress Moving Image Genre-Form Guide
  allocates animation as one of three Sublists (the others are Experimental
  and Advertising) that is classified in Subdivisions according to
  techniques and technologies. This is unusual in that other genres are
  described with historical, ideological, aesthetic or content-based
  terminologies:
 
  http://www.loc.gov/rr/mopic/migsub.html#Animation
 
  It is much like the troublesome term 'experimental film'. . In September
  last year, a ListSERVE debate ensued around a call for proposal for the
  FSAC Film Genre Series, two of which were anime (which is a genre) and
  experimental film. A discussion ensued, and Jeffrey Skoller for UC
  Berkeley offered up some valuable arguments for the case against
  ‘genrification’ of experimental film. Analogous to the Cinema  Media
  Studies Special Interest group Ex-FM (that founder Michael Zryd asked me
  to be a founding member of precisely because of animation's 'fuzziness')
  members’ concerns about experimental film the very fuzzy term of
  'animation' needs unpacking and redefining into a number of related areas
  of critical engagement and authorship
 
  An example for this is Stan Vanderbeek's collage and cutout film work (the
  next issue of animation: an interdiciplinary journal - ANM for short -
  will be a special issue on him). Vanderbeek's animation films are
  'experimental' but they can also be allocated to genres of  dark comedy,
  activist, diary, lyrical, reflexive, public affairs, war (using the LoC's
  gernres). Many animation films express social critique, political satire,
  commodity culture, gender, issues of representation, for instance Martha
  Coburn, Paul Vester, George Griffin,Vera Neubauer and many more.
 
  So 'fuzzy' terms can be a good thing, they can also be a disservice to the
  multliplicity of styles, content and form, not to mention the multiple
  platforms animation is increasingly using. Part of my concern with the
  term is to do with the artefact - another theme you were interesting in
  pursuing here - and the (improving) high/low art divide between 'serious'
  and 'art' animation. William Kentridge and Robin Rhode are to my
  knowledge, two of the few  'animation' artists to actually break through
  this divide. Why aren't the Quay brother's works in Tate Modern? Why do
  they screen Fischli  Weiss, but not Jerzy Kucia's or the Quays' works in
  the same contexts? An example is their currently touring DORMITORIUM
  exhibition, that was recently at Cornell.
 
  There is a long way to go to correct a common perception that animation is
  not