Re: Real-time chat replacement

[J Decker]

I like gitter - it supports most of github markdown including like
tables... works like discord minus the voice; can edit and delete previous
messages that gets updated other places... [gitter](http://gittter.im)
Or come over to irc.freenode.net :)
It's also open, unlike slack that requires a invitation to loop back to you
to get into a channel, and then every channel you join requires a whole new
connection, well it's more like discord... but also more open.
Can use github account to login


On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 10:01 PM Marco Ippolito 
wrote:

> Slack can be a viable option?
>
> Il gio 16 gen 2020, 00:01 Beuc  ha scritto:
>
>> Hi,
>> On 15/01/2020 22:37, Alon Zakai wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> In around a month Mozilla will remove the irc.mozilla.org IRC server
>> we've been using for #emscripten. So we need another option for real-time
>> discussion.
>>
>> One option is discord, where the wasm community has been gathering, and
>> there's already an #emscripten room there that someone set up,
>>
>> https://discordapp.com/channels/453584038356058112/590215642444202044
>> (docs PR: https://github.com/emscripten-core/emscripten/pull/10165)
>>
>> I don't particularly have an opinion between the options in this space.
>> Discord seems reasonable to go with for now since as I said it's already
>> used by wasm in general which obviously overlaps with emscripten users
>> quite a lot. But if there's interest, perhaps we could also set up a bridge
>> to other places people want, or consider other options.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> AFAIK there is no usable free/open source client for Discord, offline
>> notifications are days-delayed, and users have to accept their ToS with the
>> usual abusive clauses.
>>
>> - Beuc
>>
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Re: Real-time chat replacement

[Marco Ippolito]

Slack can be a viable option?

Il gio 16 gen 2020, 00:01 Beuc  ha scritto:

> Hi,
> On 15/01/2020 22:37, Alon Zakai wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> In around a month Mozilla will remove the irc.mozilla.org IRC server
> we've been using for #emscripten. So we need another option for real-time
> discussion.
>
> One option is discord, where the wasm community has been gathering, and
> there's already an #emscripten room there that someone set up,
>
> https://discordapp.com/channels/453584038356058112/590215642444202044
> (docs PR: https://github.com/emscripten-core/emscripten/pull/10165)
>
> I don't particularly have an opinion between the options in this space.
> Discord seems reasonable to go with for now since as I said it's already
> used by wasm in general which obviously overlaps with emscripten users
> quite a lot. But if there's interest, perhaps we could also set up a bridge
> to other places people want, or consider other options.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> AFAIK there is no usable free/open source client for Discord, offline
> notifications are days-delayed, and users have to accept their ToS with the
> usual abusive clauses.
>
> - Beuc
>
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Re: Real-time chat replacement

[Beuc]

Hi,

On 15/01/2020 22:37, Alon Zakai wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> In around a month Mozilla will remove the irc.mozilla.org
>  IRC server we've been using for #emscripten.
> So we need another option for real-time discussion.
>
> One option is discord, where the wasm community has been gathering,
> and there's already an #emscripten room there that someone set up,
>
> https://discordapp.com/channels/453584038356058112/590215642444202044
> (docs PR: https://github.com/emscripten-core/emscripten/pull/10165)
>
> I don't particularly have an opinion between the options in this
> space. Discord seems reasonable to go with for now since as I said
> it's already used by wasm in general which obviously overlaps with
> emscripten users quite a lot. But if there's interest, perhaps we
> could also set up a bridge to other places people want, or consider
> other options.
>
> Thoughts?

AFAIK there is no usable free/open source client for Discord, offline
notifications are days-delayed, and users have to accept their ToS with
the usual abusive clauses.

- Beuc

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stacktraces and profiling

[Brian Craft]

When using the chrome profiler, the stack traces for wasm functions are all 
identical. Like so:

WASM_function#25:module:_baos_push
  js-to-wasm#93:export:js-to-wasm#93
Module._main

WASM_function#101:module:_hfc_lookup
  js-to-wasm#93:export:js-to-wasm#93
Module._main

Is this expected? What does it mean? To be clear, I was expecting the stack 
to show the calls between the different wasm functions, as you would see if 
profiling on other platforms.

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Real-time chat replacement

[Alon Zakai]

Hi everyone,

In around a month Mozilla will remove the irc.mozilla.org IRC server we've
been using for #emscripten. So we need another option for real-time
discussion.

One option is discord, where the wasm community has been gathering, and
there's already an #emscripten room there that someone set up,

https://discordapp.com/channels/453584038356058112/590215642444202044 (docs
PR: https://github.com/emscripten-core/emscripten/pull/10165)

I don't particularly have an opinion between the options in this space.
Discord seems reasonable to go with for now since as I said it's already
used by wasm in general which obviously overlaps with emscripten users
quite a lot. But if there's interest, perhaps we could also set up a bridge
to other places people want, or consider other options.

Thoughts?

- Alon

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Performance question

[Александр Гурьянов]

Hi guys. I working on next version of js-dos, and I have some ideas
where to go. I have couple questions to see which way is better.

Currently, js-dos is a WebAssembly binary (+asyncify changes) that
does emulation in 16ms frames, and stops with emscripten_sleep for
processing user input. So typical work flow is:

16ms emulation|  | 16ms emulation |  | etc.

Typically  is empty, and performance is limited by browser
performance, and browser scheduler that stops emulation with
emscripten_sleep.

My first question is:
1. "Can I have any performance boost if I move emulation core inside worker?"

>From my point of view it's not sens, because even in worker I should
stop emulations every 16ms to process messages and send updates to
page. Even If I do not account frames data (320x200 32bpp image), I
think performance will be same as in regular integration. Am I wrong?

My second questing:
2. "Is WASI perfromance is better than default WebView WebAsssembly
core?" (android/ios)

One of my target is provide js-dos also on mobiles (android/ios) and I
think I can do it as is, or also I can do it with WASI. I think with
WASI clients can integrate js-dos in more ways, but what about
performance? Is it more preformant to use WASI instead of browser on
mobiles, or they are same?

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