reddit engagement

2014-10-25 Thread Oliver Propst
A few of us had quick chat on irc yesterday about reddit[1] and came
to the conclusion that there is some positive buzz there [2] about
GNOME these days, maybe we should think more about how to better
engage with the reddit community/users.

I don't personally have much experience interacting with reddit but
know some other team members have. There is an etherpad [3] where we
can list our ideas, I can also see this as a potential future meeting
agenda item.

1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reddit
2 http://www.reddit.com/r/gnome
3 https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/reddit_engagement
-- 
-mvh Oliver Propst
___
engagement-list mailing list
engagement-list@gnome.org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/engagement-list


Re: reddit engagement

2014-10-25 Thread Andreas Nilsson

On 2014-10-25 13:22, Oliver Propst wrote:

A few of us had quick chat on irc yesterday about reddit[1] and came
to the conclusion that there is some positive buzz there [2] about
GNOME these days, maybe we should think more about how to better
engage with the reddit community/users.


I personally find Reddit's lack of response on certain topics and legal 
manners [1] misaligned with my values and those that I think are values 
of the wider GNOME community.
It's not something I would like to use for outreach myself. I plain 
don't want anything to do with it.


What I would focus on is more proactive instead of reactive outreach.
Spreading good stories instead of trying to fire control the bad ones.

1. http://pento.net/2014/09/10/lets-have-a-chat-about-reddit/
- Andreas
___
engagement-list mailing list
engagement-list@gnome.org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/engagement-list


Re: reddit engagement

2014-10-25 Thread Hashem Nasarat


On 10/25/2014 10:12 AM, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
 On 2014-10-25 13:22, Oliver Propst wrote:
 A few of us had quick chat on irc yesterday about reddit[1] and came
 to the conclusion that there is some positive buzz there [2] about
 GNOME these days, maybe we should think more about how to better
 engage with the reddit community/users.
 
 I personally find Reddit's lack of response on certain topics and legal
 manners [1] misaligned with my values and those that I think are values
 of the wider GNOME community.
 It's not something I would like to use for outreach myself. I plain
 don't want anything to do with it.

I agree that reddit has terrible management and many spiteful and
oppressive users. I'm not sure of many other GNU/Linux-focused community
forums though. Slashdot is even more hostile than /r/linux, but I'm not
sure about hackernews (I feel like hackernews is more programmer-focused).

Regardless, while I've learned useful things from /r/linux and had some
decent conversations there, I would strongly avoid encouraging people to
go there.

As a compromise, there's also https://www.reddit.com/r/srslinux and
https://www.reddit.com/r/SRSTechnology/ (and
https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/ ?) which are populated by far fewer
racists, sexists, etc.

 
 What I would focus on is more proactive instead of reactive outreach.
 Spreading good stories instead of trying to fire control the bad ones.

That is what I've already been doing for the past 9 months
https://www.reddit.com/user/hnasarat/submitted/

I have focused on making sure that people there see and hear about
GNOME, and what GNOME people are working on. There's often a fair deal
of support for the things I post, but I don't have the patience (nor
think it's a useful endeavor) to engage with detractors that inevitably
show up.

 
 1. http://pento.net/2014/09/10/lets-have-a-chat-about-reddit/
 - Andreas
 ___
 engagement-list mailing list
 engagement-list@gnome.org
 https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/engagement-list
___
engagement-list mailing list
engagement-list@gnome.org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/engagement-list


Re: reddit engagement

2014-10-25 Thread Oliver Propst
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Andreas Nilsson li...@andreasn.se wrote:
 I personally find Reddit's lack of response on certain topics and legal
 manners [1] misaligned with my values and those that I think are values of
 the wider GNOME community.
 It's not something I would like to use for outreach myself. I plain don't
 want anything to do with it.
I think the context of our discussion was that there was some positive
buzz about GNOME there now and we could think about how to leverage
it, if I remember correctly we did some engagement there a while back.
But yeah totally understand you (don't use reddit myself).

 What I would focus on is more proactive instead of reactive outreach.
 Spreading good stories instead of trying to fire control the bad ones.
Definitely agree this should be our focus and it was not (or have ever
been) my intent to state anything else.

 1. http://pento.net/2014/09/10/lets-have-a-chat-about-reddit/
Thanks for sharing this post it had many interesting points.

-- 
-mvh Oliver Propst
___
engagement-list mailing list
engagement-list@gnome.org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/engagement-list


Re: reddit engagement

2014-10-25 Thread Andreas Nilsson

On 2014-10-25 16:29, Hashem Nasarat wrote:
That is what I've already been doing for the past 9 months 
https://www.reddit.com/user/hnasarat/submitted/ I have focused on 
making sure that people there see and hear about GNOME, and what GNOME 
people are working on. There's often a fair deal of support for the 
things I post, but I don't have the patience (nor think it's a useful 
endeavor) to engage with detractors that inevitably show up. 


And I think it's all right that you do if you feel comfortable with it.
I read Oliver's initial e-mail as Everyone here needs to be on Reddit 
more, and I wanted to explain why I personally can't do that.

- Andreas
___
engagement-list mailing list
engagement-list@gnome.org
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/engagement-list