Re: Engagement Team wiki pages

[Oliver Propst]

Allan great thanks for doing this effort, its important work and an
important area.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Allan Day  wrote:
>
>
> Please check to make sure that I haven't misfiled any pages, and that all
> the links still work!
>

 Will do (as time allow). Encourage others as well (of course).

It would also be good to think about next steps.
>
>
There are several pages [5, 6] that should probably be moved under the
> Engagement page. It would also be good to move the initiatives list [7] to
> the wiki, and reconcile it with the out of date tasks list [8].
>

Good points. Its possible I do an effort with this.

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Re: Some branding guidelines and historical info lost in migration

[Allan Day]

Alexandre Franke  wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Allan Day  wrote:
> > I honestly can't think of any cases where it would be desirable to use
> > Bitstream Vera Sans with the GNOME logo. It won't look particularly
> > consistent or good. The GNOME project itself doesn't use Bitstream Vera
> Sans
> > - Cantarell is our font - so I don't know why we'd suggest that others
> > should.
>
> Fair enough. Maybe we should add a recommendation to use Cantarell?
>

It really depends on who the guidelines are for. Right now they are linked
to from the main public facing web page on our trademarks [1], and are part
of our guidelines for third parties. As such, they cover pretty much any
case where someone might want to use our logos, like a distro wanting to
put a GNOME foot on a web page. In many of these cases, there won't be any
need to tie the logo in with GNOME's branding. It wouldn't make sense for a
distro to use Cantarell, for example.

What we really need, and what I've wanted for a long time, is a proper set
of branding guidelines for those who are representing the GNOME brand.
These would cover cases like designing banners or flyers for GNOME events,
and could include sections on colour, graphics, typography, language and
tone and so on. There is actually some draft material for this on the wiki
[2].

Simply put: I think we need two sets of guidelines, a simple one for third
party usage, and more elaborate guidelines for community usage. What we
have currently is the first, and we are missing the second.

Allan

[1] https://www.gnome.org/foundation/legal-and-trademarks/
[2] https://wiki.gnome.org/Engagement/DraftBrandGuidelines
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Engagement Team wiki pages

[Allan Day]

Hi all,

I've just spent a bit of time trying to improve the Engagement Team wiki
page.

The main Engagement Team page [1] was rather long and overwhelming, so I've
created a series of sub-pages [2, 3, 4] into which I've moved some content.
This should hopefully make the main page easier to digest.

Please check to make sure that I haven't misfiled any pages, and that all
the links still work!

It would also be good to think about next steps. There are several pages
[5, 6] that should probably be moved under the Engagement page. It would
also be good to move the initiatives list [7] to the wiki, and reconcile it
with the out of date tasks list [8].

Allan

[1] https://wiki.gnome.org/Engagement
[2] https://wiki.gnome.org/Engagement/RegionalTeams
[3] https://wiki.gnome.org/Engagement/StrategyAndPlanning
[4] https://wiki.gnome.org/Engagement/Archive
[5] https://wiki.gnome.org/SocialMediaPlan
[6] https://wiki.gnome.org/WhatsNext
[7] https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/List_of_GNOME_Engagment_Team_initiatives
[8] https://wiki.gnome.org/Engagement/Tasks
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Re: Some branding guidelines and historical info lost in migration

[Alexandre Franke]

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Allan Day  wrote:
> I honestly can't think of any cases where it would be desirable to use
> Bitstream Vera Sans with the GNOME logo. It won't look particularly
> consistent or good. The GNOME project itself doesn't use Bitstream Vera Sans
> - Cantarell is our font - so I don't know why we'd suggest that others
> should.

Fair enough. Maybe we should add a recommendation to use Cantarell?

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GNOME Hacker & Foundation Director
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Re: Some branding guidelines and historical info lost in migration

[Allan Day]

Jeff F. T.  wrote:

> > There are spacing guidelines on the logo and trademarks page. It says
> > "", and then points to http://www.gnome.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/0
> > 6/logo-spacings.png
> >
> > Is there something missing from that?
>
> Well that image is for external spacings, but there were two more
> images on the original page for internal spacings…
>

Internal spacings are only useful if you are editing the logo, which is
something we don't want people to do, and advise against doing in the
guidelines.

 Alexandre Franke a écrit :

> > I think the info about which font we used as a base is relevant for
> > people who want to use the logo (with wordmark) and then write
> > something that looks consistent with by using the same(ish) font. In
> > this case, it's also important to mention we don't use the font as it
> > is because people could be mislead then and just write GNOME
> > themselves and think they reached the same result as if they were
> > using the logo.
>
> Yep, this situation is exactly what I had in mind.
>

I honestly can't think of any cases where it would be desirable to use
Bitstream Vera Sans with the GNOME logo. It won't look particularly
consistent or good. The GNOME project itself doesn't use Bitstream Vera
Sans - Cantarell is our font - so I don't know why we'd suggest that others
should.

Allan
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