Re: Revisiting the Friends of GNOME webpages

2016-03-08 Thread Tobias Mueller
Hi.

On Di, 2016-03-08 at 11:11 +, Allan Day wrote:
> Which address does that initial email get sent from?
frie...@gnome.org
http://hg.cryptobitch.de/gnome-paypal/file/67703e591bf2/createmail.py#l12

>  Is there a way that more people could help out
> with this part of the administration?
The LWN codes?
People could read frie...@gnome.org and respond to requests.
The frequency of people asking has been low, though.

Cheers,
  Tobi
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Re: Revisiting the Friends of GNOME webpages

2016-03-08 Thread Tobias Mueller
Hi.

On Di, 2016-03-08 at 12:23 +0100, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> Do you know if that covers only Germany, or some other European 
> countries as well?
They said that their (German) tax officer said that their (German) tax
exempt status applies to EU member states, due to EU legislation.  Of
course, your local tax office makes the rules for you, so you better
double check before expecting too much.  In any case, I recommend
asking WHS for a (written) confirmation of your donation to have
something tangible to show your tax office.

Cheers,
  Tobi
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Re: Revisiting the Friends of GNOME webpages

2016-03-08 Thread Andreas Nilsson

On 2016-03-08 12:20, Tobias Mueller wrote:

Hi.

On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 11:12:46AM +, Allan Day wrote:

I thought that donations were tax deductible in Europe too, though?

Donations to WHS are tax deductible.


Ah, that was their name!
Do you know if that covers only Germany, or some other European 
countries as well?

- Andreas
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Re: Revisiting the Friends of GNOME webpages

2016-03-08 Thread Andreas Nilsson

On 2016-03-08 12:12, Allan Day wrote:

Andreas Nilsson  wrote:
...

Maybe something like:
"The GNOME Foundation is a non-profit organization and if you live in the US
your donation is tax free.
Contact your tax office for more information."

That sounds better indeed! I thought that donations were tax
deductible in Europe too, though?


It might be in certain parts of Europe, and possibly if the Foundation 
made the agreement with that German organization (that I forgot the name 
of).
I know for sure donations are not tax free/deductible in Sweden (since 
January 1st 2014).


Maybe something like:
"The GNOME Foundation is a non-profit organization and depending on 
where you live, your donation might be tax deductible. Contact your tax 
office for more information."


I used deductible since it might only be for a certain percentage, or 
have a max amount, depending on the country.
I realize working on the texts over e-mail might be a bit cumbersome, so 
I dumped some simplifications here 
https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/friends_of_gnome

- Andreas
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Re: Revisiting the Friends of GNOME webpages

2016-03-08 Thread Tobias Mueller
Hi.

On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 11:12:46AM +, Allan Day wrote:
> I thought that donations were tax deductible in Europe too, though?
Donations to WHS are tax deductible.

Cheers,
  Tobi
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Re: Revisiting the Friends of GNOME webpages

2016-03-08 Thread Andreas Nilsson

On 2016-03-02 18:46, Allan Day wrote:

• The current main page includes the text "GNOME Foundation is a
501(c)3 non-profit organization, and your donation is considered
charitable to the extent of applicable law. Consult your tax preparer
to determine tax-deductibility." I don't really like the legalese
here, particularly "to the extend of applicable law" - I certainly
don't know what it means. And "tax preparer" is an odd term. And a lot
of people don't have a "tax preparer" - it would be good to give an
indication of how they might proceed to claim the tax back.


Is this valid only for the US? Or also in other parts of the world?

This is how gov.uk [1] phrases it:
"Donations by individuals to charity or to community amateur sports 
clubs (CASCs) are tax free. This is called tax relief."


And American Red Cross [2]:
"$10.00 is the minimum online donation. All donations are tax deductible."


Maybe something like:
"The GNOME Foundation is a non-profit organization and if you live in 
the US your donation is tax free.

Contact your tax office for more information."

1. https://www.gov.uk/donating-to-charity
2. 
https://www.redcross.org/donate/nn-0116?campname=donate&campmedium=aspot_unassigned


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Re: Revisiting the Friends of GNOME webpages

2016-03-08 Thread Allan Day
Andreas Nilsson  wrote:
...
> Maybe something like:
> "The GNOME Foundation is a non-profit organization and if you live in the US
> your donation is tax free.
> Contact your tax office for more information."

That sounds better indeed! I thought that donations were tax
deductible in Europe too, though?

Allan
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Re: Revisiting the Friends of GNOME webpages

2016-03-08 Thread Allan Day
Tobias Mueller  wrote:
...
>> • How does the LWN subscription work? How do donors find out how to
>> use it?
>
> currently, donors receive an email "when it's time". In that mail, they
> are being asked whether they want to receive an LWN token. The donor is
> expected to reply to that mail.

Thanks for the information, Tobi! Which address does that initial
email get sent from? Is there a way that more people could help out
with this part of the administration?

Allan
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Re: 3.20 Headline Features

2016-03-08 Thread Oliver Propst
On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Allan Day  wrote:

> 2. A lot of time and effort has gone into Wayland this cycle (and
> previous cycles) - it would be good to reflect that in the notes


See this.


> 3. We need to consider the balance and appearance of the release
> headlines in general. If you take out XDG app, what big features do we
> have to talk about?
>

The general app polish and features landed I think are significant.
Considerer things like Shortcuts windows add to that.


> 4. Is this *the* Wayland moment? I'm particularly thinking about next
> release here. If we just missed the mark of being Wayland ready this
> cycle, do we still get to say that 3.22 is the big "Wayland is done"
> release? If so, we might not want to make such a noise about it this
> time round.
>

A very good point you bring up. Was something I had in mind.

In time for the 3.22 release I guess its very likely that *features such as
"remote display", "xclipboard proxy", "dnd root window drops" will have
landed, hopefully have also the Wayland accessibility story improved. Think
it would make more sense to do a bigger push then, yes.

*https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Wayland_features describe the features I
quote (and more).



> 5. My understanding is that Fedora will be promoting the Wayland
> session, even if it is not used by default. I wouldn't want GNOME to
> miss the train in this regard.
>

Understand.

-- 
-mvh Oliver Propst
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