Re: Ubuntu desktop to GNOME meeting

[Oliver Propst]

On 4/19/17, Sriram Ramkrishna  wrote:
> It might be good to invite Michael Hall and his team to join this list
> though and I did appreciate having the minutes posted.  Even if they are
> technical issues they are also human issues as well.

+1 :)

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20th Birthday Celebration at GUADEC

[Nuritzi Sanchez]

Hi GUADEC 2017 team,

The Engagement team has been talking about several initiatives to run for
GNOME's 20th Birthday celebration this year, and some of those include
doing things at this year's GUADEC. We know that you guys are already
planning on some activities and it'd be great to sync up.

Would it be possible for some of us to attend your regular meeting next
week? Can you confirm that it's Monday at 17:00 UTC?

Thanks!

Best,
Nuritzi


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Re: Ubuntu desktop to GNOME meeting

[Olav Vitters]

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 11:24:21AM +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote:
> > Items discussed (rough minutes!): […]
> 
> These all look like technical issues/questions and I don’t think the
> engagement team is the right place to discuss them. desktop-devel-list
> seems more appropriate, do you mind reposting that there?

I purposely did not. It should be up to Ubuntu desktop team to email
d-d-l and they already mentioned they'd contact maintainers.

For engagement:
1) They're planning to reach out to their community to discuss what
they'd like to see; this is quite nice
2) they'll be switching as of 17.10 already

To be clear: I shared my minutes/notes, not theirs. Still waiting
access.

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Re: Ubuntu desktop to GNOME meeting

[Alexandre Franke]

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Olav Vitters  wrote:
> Hi,

Hey,

> There was a public IRC meeting where Ubuntu desktop team discussed the
> switch to GNOME. It'll be followed by many more meetings.

Thanks for attending and sharing that with us!

> Items discussed (rough minutes!): […]

These all look like technical issues/questions and I don’t think the
engagement team is the right place to discuss them. desktop-devel-list
seems more appropriate, do you mind reposting that there?

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Ubuntu desktop to GNOME meeting

[Olav Vitters]

Hi,

There was a public IRC meeting where Ubuntu desktop team discussed the
switch to GNOME. It'll be followed by many more meetings.

IRC log: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/04/18/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t15:30
Etherpad: http://pad.ubuntu.com/n08SOl5xiA (requires Ubuntu one account
with access to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad .. I don't have
access yet)

Items discussed (rough minutes!):
- GNOME default as per 17.10 (work starts NOW/asap); likely with Wayland
- start with as little patches as possible, though do that by discussing
patch by patch what to drop
- use feedback to determine if/what extensions to include (dashtodock etc).
They'll check if they can commit for the maintenance of whatever they
depend on before depending on it.
- need decision lightdm vs gdm (might impact their guest session support +
they don't like the lingering gdm session)
- email client discussion: doubts about Evolution maintenance (amount of
people)
- GTK4.x for Nautilus 3.26 they rather not have
- doubts about GTK3.x and GTK4.x in same process
- maybe some kind of guide for people switching (they'll also consult their
OEMs)
- OEM workflows need checking
- themes (their Unity one + various others) likely cannot be used as-is;
e.g. black borders, lack of shadows around windows, etc. Also wondering if
it'll become a burden in case gtk+4.x
- Flatpak and themes issue (currently Flatpak does not reuse system theme;
they're not committing to Flatpak btw I think)

Shared by aruiz to the team:
- plan for Pinos / screensharing for 3.26 though might be 3.28
- fractional scaling for 3.26 under Wayland

They're still going to have various more meetings. Also they'll reach out
to various maintainers.

Regards,
Olav
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Re: System76 Reporting for Duty

[Allan Day]

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 1:48 AM, Nuritzi Sanchez <
nurit...@stanfordalumni.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Ryan Sipes  wrote:
>
>> Can you guys get me a login on the ownCloud instance, and I can try and
>> plug this stuff into the calendar? Then we can somehow display that info on
>> a public calendar.
>>
>
> Usually only GNOME Foundation members
>  get an Owncloud account. I
> think there may have been special instances where people have received
> access in order to complete a specific task, but you'd have to talk to the
> memberships / sysadmin team for that.
>

I saw that there was some discussion about this at last week's engagement
team meeting.

It would be easy enough to populate the existing Google calendar. The main
question I still have is who would use that information and how? It's not a
lot of work, but it would be good to have a better idea of what the goals
are.

Allan
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