Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

2020-07-03 Thread Jan-Peter Rühmann

  
  
Hello

Since the automatic Updates never functioned, at least under Linux
because of insufficient rights that is no problem anyways. As long
as you are not using the Repositories of the Distribution.

Am 2020-07-03 um 07:53 schrieb Patrick
  Brunschwig:


  Bradley D. Thornton wrote on 03.07.2020 04:40:
[...]

  

  Enigmail is available for:





  * Interlink (https://binaryoutcast.com/projects/interlink/), a
community-driven product.






  Interlink is also maintained, but I'm not sure how actively and
things like security fixes.




Okay thanks for that earlier clarification Patrick :)

Just to be clear, it doesn't matter what I do (allow or disable
automatic updates). There will be no more support for enigmail in the
future at all?

  
  
As already mentioned several times, I'll continue to support and
maintain Enigmail 2.1.x for Thunderbird 68 for at least 6 months after
the availability of Thunderbird 78. I might extend this for a few more
months, but not more.


  
At this point, to continue using enigmail, I've frozen the updates on
my workstations.

  
  
As long as TB 78.2 is not released, there is no need to disable updates.
Otherwise you'll miss security and stability updated for TB 68.


  
The latest update to Interlink is a/o 07 June, so  three-ish weeks,
and twice the previous month. It has Linux support but there is no
SlackBuild package for Slackware, although that's trivial considering
they have tarballs for GTK 2&3 at the dev's website.

I suppose it would be okay to move forward with OpenPGP in
Thunderbird, but I've been using Enigmail for so long I just feel like
I would be missing some kewl features that I've come to depend on.

Maybe some folks on this list could chime in on that last concern of mine?

  
  In TB 78, the feature set will certainly be smaller than in Enigmail.
But you I expect that future versions of Thunderbird will add more
features to OpenPGP.

-Patrick


  
  
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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

2020-07-02 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
Bradley D. Thornton wrote on 03.07.2020 04:40:
[...]
>> Enigmail is available for:
> 
>> * Interlink (https://binaryoutcast.com/projects/interlink/), a
>> community-driven product.
> 
> 
>> Interlink is also maintained, but I'm not sure how actively and
>> things like security fixes.
> 
> 
> Okay thanks for that earlier clarification Patrick :)
> 
> Just to be clear, it doesn't matter what I do (allow or disable
> automatic updates). There will be no more support for enigmail in the
> future at all?

As already mentioned several times, I'll continue to support and
maintain Enigmail 2.1.x for Thunderbird 68 for at least 6 months after
the availability of Thunderbird 78. I might extend this for a few more
months, but not more.

> At this point, to continue using enigmail, I've frozen the updates on
> my workstations.

As long as TB 78.2 is not released, there is no need to disable updates.
Otherwise you'll miss security and stability updated for TB 68.

> The latest update to Interlink is a/o 07 June, so  three-ish weeks,
> and twice the previous month. It has Linux support but there is no
> SlackBuild package for Slackware, although that's trivial considering
> they have tarballs for GTK 2&3 at the dev's website.
> 
> I suppose it would be okay to move forward with OpenPGP in
> Thunderbird, but I've been using Enigmail for so long I just feel like
> I would be missing some kewl features that I've come to depend on.
> 
> Maybe some folks on this list could chime in on that last concern of mine?
In TB 78, the feature set will certainly be smaller than in Enigmail.
But you I expect that future versions of Thunderbird will add more
features to OpenPGP.

-Patrick



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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

2020-07-02 Thread Bradley D. Thornton
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Hash: SHA256



On 6/30/2020 1:08 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
> Dr. Simon Donkey via enigmail-users wrote on 30.06.2020 21:57:
>>
>> On 5/20/2020 4:23 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>>> The Thunderbird developers have released the first beta version
>>> of Thunderbird 77 that contains native support for OpenPGP
>>> emails. The development has not yet finished; there are still
>>> itches and glitches, but the basic functionality of encryption,
>>> decryption, signing and verification of emails is there. The
>>> functionality is still considered experimental; there are still
>>> known issues and white spots.
>>>
>>> Details are available from the following post:
>>> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2020-May/007621.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
Aligned with this release, I created a first beta version of
>>> Enigmail 2.2. Enigmail 2.2 is a special release that serves one
>>> single purpose: help users migrate their keys and settings from
>>> Enigmail/GnuPG to Thunderbird -- nothing more.
>>>
>>> If you want to try Enigmail 2.2 Beta 1 along with Thunderbird
>>> 77 beta 3, you can install it from here:
>>> https://enigmail.net/download/nightly/enigmail-nightly-enigmail-2.2-
branch-all.xpi
>>>
>>>
>>>
- -Patrick
>>>
>> Hello Patrick
>>
>> Many thanks for working on Enigmail! Are there other clients
>> beside Thunderbird that support it? I'm fed up with Thunderbird
>> and ready to move on to greener pastures.
>
>
> Enigmail is available for:

> * Interlink (https://binaryoutcast.com/projects/interlink/), a
> community-driven product.
>

> Interlink is also maintained, but I'm not sure how actively and
> things like security fixes.
>

Okay thanks for that earlier clarification Patrick :)

Just to be clear, it doesn't matter what I do (allow or disable
automatic updates). There will be no more support for enigmail in the
future at all?

At this point, to continue using enigmail, I've frozen the updates on
my workstations.

The latest update to Interlink is a/o 07 June, so  three-ish weeks,
and twice the previous month. It has Linux support but there is no
SlackBuild package for Slackware, although that's trivial considering
they have tarballs for GTK 2&3 at the dev's website.

I suppose it would be okay to move forward with OpenPGP in
Thunderbird, but I've been using Enigmail for so long I just feel like
I would be missing some kewl features that I've come to depend on.

Maybe some folks on this list could chime in on that last concern of min
e?

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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

2020-07-01 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
You can install Enigmail in Interlink from the Enigmail homepage (use
the latest version that was published for Thunderbird 52).

https://enigmail.net/index.php/en/download-old-versions

-Patrick


On 01/07/2020 00:18, Mark wrote:
> I've never heard of Interlink so went to check out the website. It looks
> like it might be an option depending on what TB 78.x looks like. Anyway
> I didn't see Enigmail listed on the extensions page for it 
> https://interlink-addons.binaryoutcast.com/extensions/
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/30/2020 1:08 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> Enigmail is available for:
>> * Postbox (https://postbox-inc.com), a commercial product
>> * Interlink (https://binaryoutcast.com/projects/interlink/), a
>> community-driven product.
>>
>> Both are currently based on TB 52. Postbox is actively maintained and
>> its UI differs quite a bit from Thunderbird (I think it's nicer, but
>> that's to some degree a matter of taste). Interlink is also maintained,
>> but I'm not sure how actively and things like security fixes.
>>
>> -Patrick
>>
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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

2020-06-30 Thread Olav Seyfarth

  
  
Enigmail also supports https://www.postbox-inc.com/, a Thunderbird
fork that will continue to support Enigmail.
  




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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

2020-06-30 Thread Mark
I've never heard of Interlink so went to check out the website. It looks
like it might be an option depending on what TB 78.x looks like. Anyway
I didn't see Enigmail listed on the extensions page for it 
https://interlink-addons.binaryoutcast.com/extensions/



On 6/30/2020 1:08 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>
> Enigmail is available for:
> * Postbox (https://postbox-inc.com), a commercial product
> * Interlink (https://binaryoutcast.com/projects/interlink/), a
> community-driven product.
>
> Both are currently based on TB 52. Postbox is actively maintained and
> its UI differs quite a bit from Thunderbird (I think it's nicer, but
> that's to some degree a matter of taste). Interlink is also maintained,
> but I'm not sure how actively and things like security fixes.
>
> -Patrick
>
>
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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

2020-06-30 Thread Juergen Bruckner via enigmail-users
--- Begin Message ---


Am 30.06.20 um 22:08 schrieb Patrick Brunschwig:
> Dr. Simon Donkey via enigmail-users wrote on 30.06.2020 21:57:
>>
>> On 5/20/2020 4:23 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>>> The Thunderbird developers have released the first beta version of
>>> Thunderbird 77 that contains native support for OpenPGP emails. The
>>> development has not yet finished; there are still itches and glitches,
>>> but the basic functionality of encryption, decryption, signing and
>>> verification of emails is there. The functionality is still considered
>>> experimental; there are still known issues and white spots.
>>>
>>> Details are available from the following post:
>>> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2020-May/007621.html
>>>
>>> Aligned with this release, I created a first beta version of
>>> Enigmail 2.2. Enigmail 2.2 is a special release that serves one single
>>> purpose: help users migrate their keys and settings from Enigmail/GnuPG
>>> to Thunderbird -- nothing more.
>>>
>>> If you want to try Enigmail 2.2 Beta 1 along with Thunderbird 77 beta 3,
>>> you can install it from here:
>>> https://enigmail.net/download/nightly/enigmail-nightly-enigmail-2.2-branch-all.xpi
>>>
>>> -Patrick
>>>
>> Hello Patrick
>>
>> Many thanks for working on Enigmail! Are there other clients beside
>> Thunderbird that support it? I'm fed up with Thunderbird and ready to
>> move on to greener pastures.
> 
> 
> Enigmail is available for:
> * Postbox (https://postbox-inc.com), a commercial product
> * Interlink (https://binaryoutcast.com/projects/interlink/), a
> community-driven product.
> 
> Both are currently based on TB 52. Postbox is actively maintained and
> its UI differs quite a bit from Thunderbird (I think it's nicer, but
> that's to some degree a matter of taste). Interlink is also maintained,
> but I'm not sure how actively and things like security fixes.
> 
> -Patrick
> 

I use Interlink as alternative mailclient. It is active developed and
new versions are released "when they are ready". Release Notes say that
there was a new release usually every 4-6 weeks since it's first release.

For me personally the only bad thing is, that Interlink is availlable
only in english - and that will not change.

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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

2020-06-30 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
Dr. Simon Donkey via enigmail-users wrote on 30.06.2020 21:57:
> 
> On 5/20/2020 4:23 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> The Thunderbird developers have released the first beta version of
>> Thunderbird 77 that contains native support for OpenPGP emails. The
>> development has not yet finished; there are still itches and glitches,
>> but the basic functionality of encryption, decryption, signing and
>> verification of emails is there. The functionality is still considered
>> experimental; there are still known issues and white spots.
>>
>> Details are available from the following post:
>> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2020-May/007621.html
>>
>> Aligned with this release, I created a first beta version of
>> Enigmail 2.2. Enigmail 2.2 is a special release that serves one single
>> purpose: help users migrate their keys and settings from Enigmail/GnuPG
>> to Thunderbird -- nothing more.
>>
>> If you want to try Enigmail 2.2 Beta 1 along with Thunderbird 77 beta 3,
>> you can install it from here:
>> https://enigmail.net/download/nightly/enigmail-nightly-enigmail-2.2-branch-all.xpi
>>
>> -Patrick
>>
> Hello Patrick
> 
> Many thanks for working on Enigmail! Are there other clients beside
> Thunderbird that support it? I'm fed up with Thunderbird and ready to
> move on to greener pastures.


Enigmail is available for:
* Postbox (https://postbox-inc.com), a commercial product
* Interlink (https://binaryoutcast.com/projects/interlink/), a
community-driven product.

Both are currently based on TB 52. Postbox is actively maintained and
its UI differs quite a bit from Thunderbird (I think it's nicer, but
that's to some degree a matter of taste). Interlink is also maintained,
but I'm not sure how actively and things like security fixes.

-Patrick



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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

2020-06-30 Thread Dr. Simon Donkey via enigmail-users
--- Begin Message ---
On 5/20/2020 4:23 PM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
> The Thunderbird developers have released the first beta version of
> Thunderbird 77 that contains native support for OpenPGP emails. The
> development has not yet finished; there are still itches and glitches,
> but the basic functionality of encryption, decryption, signing and
> verification of emails is there. The functionality is still considered
> experimental; there are still known issues and white spots.
>
> Details are available from the following post:
> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2020-May/007621.html
>
> Aligned with this release, I created a first beta version of
> Enigmail 2.2. Enigmail 2.2 is a special release that serves one single
> purpose: help users migrate their keys and settings from Enigmail/GnuPG
> to Thunderbird -- nothing more.
>
> If you want to try Enigmail 2.2 Beta 1 along with Thunderbird 77 beta 3,
> you can install it from here:
> https://enigmail.net/download/nightly/enigmail-nightly-enigmail-2.2-branch-all.xpi
>
> -Patrick
>
Hello Patrick

Many thanks for working on Enigmail! Are there other clients beside
Thunderbird that support it? I'm fed up with Thunderbird and ready to
move on to greener pastures.



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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

2020-06-30 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
Bradley D. Thornton wrote on 30.06.2020 16:09:
> Please see comments below...
> 
> On 6/29/2020 1:43 AM, Wayne Mery wrote:
>> On 5/20/20 10:49 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>>> Andrew Gallagher wrote on 20.05.2020 16:46:
 Thanks, Patrick!

 On 20/05/2020 15:23, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
> Details are available from the following post:
> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2020-May/007621.html
 ...
> Aligned with this release, I created a first beta version of
> Enigmail 2.2. Enigmail 2.2 is a special release that serves one single
> purpose: help users migrate their keys and settings from Enigmail/GnuPG
> to Thunderbird -- nothing more.
 I notice from the tb-planning email that (for understandable reasons)
 they intend to go ahead with releasing TB 78 regardless of the state of
 its PGP support. If this is not sufficiently stable or featureful, will
 we have to hold back on upgrading TB until some future release, or will
 we still be able to install a fully-functional version of Enigmail?
>>> You'll have to hold back upgrading Thunderbird. There will be no
>>> fully-functional version of Enigmail for Thunderbird 78.
>>>
>>> -Patrick
> Okay thanks Patrick :)
> 
>>
>>
>> Starting with Enigmail 2.1.7 there is now a warning to not update to 78
>> until 78.2 when automatic updates kick in.
>>
>>
> 
> As per those instructions, as well as the graphic included in your mail
> which I also received via notification from Enigmail within Thunderbird,
> I need (it would be really nice), for peace of mind, if I have a bit
> more info regarding this...
> 
> 1.) I'm currently running TB v68.9.0 according to Help ==> About, with
> the added information relating that: "You are currently on the release
> update channel.
> 
> 2.) I'm using GNUPG, NOT OpenPGP, and considering everything else, would
> prefer to stay with that and Enigmail rather than migrate away from
> Enigmail and GNUPG, as I use other things that depend upon GNU Privacy
> Guard. I'm sure they'll coexist, but I've got no desire to add cruft to
> my systems.
> 
> Q: With consideration to the information about my setup, Am I currently
> configured to be able to just sit back and forget about it, allowing TB
> to upgrade 72.2 to automatically? Or do I need to disable something?

If you did not disable automatic upgrades, you will be upgraded to TB
78.2, which means that you will not have Enigmail anymore. GnuPG will
only be supported for handling secret keys (for example for smartcard
support), but not for anything else.

You can disable automatic updates in the Thunderbird settings under
Advanced > Update.

-Patrick



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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

2020-06-30 Thread Bradley D. Thornton
Please see comments below...

On 6/29/2020 1:43 AM, Wayne Mery wrote:
> On 5/20/20 10:49 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> Andrew Gallagher wrote on 20.05.2020 16:46:
>>> Thanks, Patrick!
>>>
>>> On 20/05/2020 15:23, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
 Details are available from the following post:
 https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2020-May/007621.html
>>> ...
 Aligned with this release, I created a first beta version of
 Enigmail 2.2. Enigmail 2.2 is a special release that serves one single
 purpose: help users migrate their keys and settings from Enigmail/GnuPG
 to Thunderbird -- nothing more.
>>> I notice from the tb-planning email that (for understandable reasons)
>>> they intend to go ahead with releasing TB 78 regardless of the state of
>>> its PGP support. If this is not sufficiently stable or featureful, will
>>> we have to hold back on upgrading TB until some future release, or will
>>> we still be able to install a fully-functional version of Enigmail?
>> You'll have to hold back upgrading Thunderbird. There will be no
>> fully-functional version of Enigmail for Thunderbird 78.
>>
>> -Patrick
Okay thanks Patrick :)

> 
> 
> Starting with Enigmail 2.1.7 there is now a warning to not update to 78
> until 78.2 when automatic updates kick in.
> 
> 

As per those instructions, as well as the graphic included in your mail
which I also received via notification from Enigmail within Thunderbird,
I need (it would be really nice), for peace of mind, if I have a bit
more info regarding this...

1.) I'm currently running TB v68.9.0 according to Help ==> About, with
the added information relating that: "You are currently on the release
update channel.

2.) I'm using GNUPG, NOT OpenPGP, and considering everything else, would
prefer to stay with that and Enigmail rather than migrate away from
Enigmail and GNUPG, as I use other things that depend upon GNU Privacy
Guard. I'm sure they'll coexist, but I've got no desire to add cruft to
my systems.

Q: With consideration to the information about my setup, Am I currently
configured to be able to just sit back and forget about it, allowing TB
to upgrade 72.2 to automatically? Or do I need to disable something?

Thanks :)

Kindest regards,


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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

2020-05-21 Thread Stephen Davidson
@Patrick
Your work is very much appreciated.

Thanks!

Regards,
Steve

On 5/20/20 9:57 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
> Aisha Tammy via enigmail-users wrote on 20.05.2020 16:50:
>> On 5/20/20 10:23 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>>> The Thunderbird developers have released the first beta version of
>>> Thunderbird 77 that contains native support for OpenPGP emails. The
>>> development has not yet finished; there are still itches and glitches,
>>> but the basic functionality of encryption, decryption, signing and
>>> verification of emails is there. The functionality is still considered
>>> experimental; there are still known issues and white spots.
>>>
>> I am hoping you are one of the contributors to that. I would feel safer
>> knowing something that has been working well is the precursor of a new 
>> technology.
> The implementation has started off from the existing Enigmail code, and
> you can still see quite a bit of it. But certain things are obviously
> new or different.
>
> I did not contribute as a developer to what has been implemented/changed
> in Thunderbird, but I was a reviewer for most of these changes.
>
>>> Details are available from the following post:
>>> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2020-May/007621.html
>>>
>>> Aligned with this release, I created a first beta version of
>>> Enigmail 2.2. Enigmail 2.2 is a special release that serves one single
>>> purpose: help users migrate their keys and settings from Enigmail/GnuPG
>>> to Thunderbird -- nothing more.
>>>
>>> If you want to try Enigmail 2.2 Beta 1 along with Thunderbird 77 beta 3,
>>> you can install it from here:
>>> https://enigmail.net/download/nightly/enigmail-nightly-enigmail-2.2-branch-all.xpi
>>>
>> Also I hope this doesn't mean that Enigmail is going away anytime soon.
>> I have quite a few things that I rely on enigmail for and really love it.
> I will continue to support Enigmail for Thunderbird for at least 6
> months after the release of TB 78. Depending on how many users will hold
> back upgrading from TB 68, I might also extend that period. Furthermore,
> I will continue to develop and maintain Enigmail for Postbox; likely for
> several more years.
>
> -Patrick
>
>
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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

2020-05-20 Thread Mark
I just went in and disabled the auto install updates until I see how
(well) it works.

On 5/20/2020 7:46 AM, Andrew Gallagher wrote:
> Thanks, Patrick!
>
> On 20/05/2020 15:23, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> Details are available from the following post:
>> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2020-May/007621.html
> ...
>> Aligned with this release, I created a first beta version of
>> Enigmail 2.2. Enigmail 2.2 is a special release that serves one single
>> purpose: help users migrate their keys and settings from Enigmail/GnuPG
>> to Thunderbird -- nothing more.
> I notice from the tb-planning email that (for understandable reasons)
> they intend to go ahead with releasing TB 78 regardless of the state of
> its PGP support. If this is not sufficiently stable or featureful, will
> we have to hold back on upgrading TB until some future release, or will
> we still be able to install a fully-functional version of Enigmail?
>
> Thanks,
> A
>
>
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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

2020-05-20 Thread Aisha Tammy via enigmail-users
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On 5/20/20 10:57 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
> Aisha Tammy via enigmail-users wrote on 20.05.2020 16:50:
>> On 5/20/20 10:23 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>>> The Thunderbird developers have released the first beta version of
>>> Thunderbird 77 that contains native support for OpenPGP emails. The
>>> development has not yet finished; there are still itches and glitches,
>>> but the basic functionality of encryption, decryption, signing and
>>> verification of emails is there. The functionality is still considered
>>> experimental; there are still known issues and white spots.
>>>
>> I am hoping you are one of the contributors to that. I would feel safer
>> knowing something that has been working well is the precursor of a new 
>> technology.
> 
> The implementation has started off from the existing Enigmail code, and
> you can still see quite a bit of it. But certain things are obviously
> new or different.
> 
> I did not contribute as a developer to what has been implemented/changed
> in Thunderbird, but I was a reviewer for most of these changes.
> 
Thanks a lot for your work!
It really does make it a bit more comfortable when and if the transition
happens :)

>>> Details are available from the following post:
>>> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2020-May/007621.html
>>>
>>> Aligned with this release, I created a first beta version of
>>> Enigmail 2.2. Enigmail 2.2 is a special release that serves one single
>>> purpose: help users migrate their keys and settings from Enigmail/GnuPG
>>> to Thunderbird -- nothing more.
>>>
>>> If you want to try Enigmail 2.2 Beta 1 along with Thunderbird 77 beta 3,
>>> you can install it from here:
>>> https://enigmail.net/download/nightly/enigmail-nightly-enigmail-2.2-branch-all.xpi
>>>
>> Also I hope this doesn't mean that Enigmail is going away anytime soon.
>> I have quite a few things that I rely on enigmail for and really love it.
> 
> I will continue to support Enigmail for Thunderbird for at least 6
> months after the release of TB 78. Depending on how many users will hold
> back upgrading from TB 68, I might also extend that period. Furthermore,
> I will continue to develop and maintain Enigmail for Postbox; likely for
> several more years.
> 
Thanks a lot for this as well :)

Aisha

> -Patrick
> 
> 




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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

2020-05-20 Thread Olav Seyfarth

  
  

  Hi Patrick,
  
I was a reviewer for most of these
  changes.
THAT is good to know for us, and a wise QA decision.
Quite some work for you, too I guess. THANK YOU!!!
  

Olav
  


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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

2020-05-20 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
Aisha Tammy via enigmail-users wrote on 20.05.2020 16:50:
> On 5/20/20 10:23 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>> The Thunderbird developers have released the first beta version of
>> Thunderbird 77 that contains native support for OpenPGP emails. The
>> development has not yet finished; there are still itches and glitches,
>> but the basic functionality of encryption, decryption, signing and
>> verification of emails is there. The functionality is still considered
>> experimental; there are still known issues and white spots.
>>
> I am hoping you are one of the contributors to that. I would feel safer
> knowing something that has been working well is the precursor of a new 
> technology.

The implementation has started off from the existing Enigmail code, and
you can still see quite a bit of it. But certain things are obviously
new or different.

I did not contribute as a developer to what has been implemented/changed
in Thunderbird, but I was a reviewer for most of these changes.

>> Details are available from the following post:
>> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2020-May/007621.html
>>
>> Aligned with this release, I created a first beta version of
>> Enigmail 2.2. Enigmail 2.2 is a special release that serves one single
>> purpose: help users migrate their keys and settings from Enigmail/GnuPG
>> to Thunderbird -- nothing more.
>>
>> If you want to try Enigmail 2.2 Beta 1 along with Thunderbird 77 beta 3,
>> you can install it from here:
>> https://enigmail.net/download/nightly/enigmail-nightly-enigmail-2.2-branch-all.xpi
>>
> Also I hope this doesn't mean that Enigmail is going away anytime soon.
> I have quite a few things that I rely on enigmail for and really love it.

I will continue to support Enigmail for Thunderbird for at least 6
months after the release of TB 78. Depending on how many users will hold
back upgrading from TB 68, I might also extend that period. Furthermore,
I will continue to develop and maintain Enigmail for Postbox; likely for
several more years.

-Patrick




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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

2020-05-20 Thread Aisha Tammy via enigmail-users
--- Begin Message ---
On 5/20/20 10:23 AM, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
> The Thunderbird developers have released the first beta version of
> Thunderbird 77 that contains native support for OpenPGP emails. The
> development has not yet finished; there are still itches and glitches,
> but the basic functionality of encryption, decryption, signing and
> verification of emails is there. The functionality is still considered
> experimental; there are still known issues and white spots.
> 
I am hoping you are one of the contributors to that. I would feel safer
knowing something that has been working well is the precursor of a new 
technology.

> Details are available from the following post:
> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2020-May/007621.html
> 
> Aligned with this release, I created a first beta version of
> Enigmail 2.2. Enigmail 2.2 is a special release that serves one single
> purpose: help users migrate their keys and settings from Enigmail/GnuPG
> to Thunderbird -- nothing more.
> 
> If you want to try Enigmail 2.2 Beta 1 along with Thunderbird 77 beta 3,
> you can install it from here:
> https://enigmail.net/download/nightly/enigmail-nightly-enigmail-2.2-branch-all.xpi
> 
Also I hope this doesn't mean that Enigmail is going away anytime soon.
I have quite a few things that I rely on enigmail for and really love it.

In any case, thanks a lot for all the work :)

Aisha

> -Patrick
> 
> 
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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

2020-05-20 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
Andrew Gallagher wrote on 20.05.2020 16:46:
> Thanks, Patrick!
> 
> On 20/05/2020 15:23, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
>>
>> Details are available from the following post:
>> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2020-May/007621.html
> ...
>> Aligned with this release, I created a first beta version of
>> Enigmail 2.2. Enigmail 2.2 is a special release that serves one single
>> purpose: help users migrate their keys and settings from Enigmail/GnuPG
>> to Thunderbird -- nothing more.
> 
> I notice from the tb-planning email that (for understandable reasons)
> they intend to go ahead with releasing TB 78 regardless of the state of
> its PGP support. If this is not sufficiently stable or featureful, will
> we have to hold back on upgrading TB until some future release, or will
> we still be able to install a fully-functional version of Enigmail?

You'll have to hold back upgrading Thunderbird. There will be no
fully-functional version of Enigmail for Thunderbird 78.

-Patrick



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Re: [Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

2020-05-20 Thread Andrew Gallagher
Thanks, Patrick!

On 20/05/2020 15:23, Patrick Brunschwig wrote:
> 
> Details are available from the following post:
> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2020-May/007621.html
...
> Aligned with this release, I created a first beta version of
> Enigmail 2.2. Enigmail 2.2 is a special release that serves one single
> purpose: help users migrate their keys and settings from Enigmail/GnuPG
> to Thunderbird -- nothing more.

I notice from the tb-planning email that (for understandable reasons)
they intend to go ahead with releasing TB 78 regardless of the state of
its PGP support. If this is not sufficiently stable or featureful, will
we have to hold back on upgrading TB until some future release, or will
we still be able to install a fully-functional version of Enigmail?

Thanks,
A

-- 
Andrew Gallagher



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[Enigmail] OpenPGP Support in Thunderbird 77.0b3

2020-05-20 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
The Thunderbird developers have released the first beta version of
Thunderbird 77 that contains native support for OpenPGP emails. The
development has not yet finished; there are still itches and glitches,
but the basic functionality of encryption, decryption, signing and
verification of emails is there. The functionality is still considered
experimental; there are still known issues and white spots.

Details are available from the following post:
https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2020-May/007621.html

Aligned with this release, I created a first beta version of
Enigmail 2.2. Enigmail 2.2 is a special release that serves one single
purpose: help users migrate their keys and settings from Enigmail/GnuPG
to Thunderbird -- nothing more.

If you want to try Enigmail 2.2 Beta 1 along with Thunderbird 77 beta 3,
you can install it from here:
https://enigmail.net/download/nightly/enigmail-nightly-enigmail-2.2-branch-all.xpi

-Patrick




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