Re: [Enigmail] Thunderbird 78
Onno Ekker wrote on 06.01.2021 20:03: > Hi, > > I'm a little confused about still getting updates for Enigmail on > Thunderbird 78. Today I noticed an upgrade to version Enigmail 2.2.4.1. > > I was under the assumption that Enigmail stopped working with > Thunderbird 78, because XUL overlay extensions were dropped and that you > don't need it anymore, because of integrated support for OpenPGP. > > So why is there still a new version for Thunderbird 78? What's the added > value for having both integrated OpenPGP and the Enigmail extension? As explained in [1], there is an assistant to help you migrating your keys and settings from GnuPG/Enigmail to TB 78. I wrote that piece of software and labelled it Enigmail 2.2, such that existing users of Enigmail can smoothly migrate to TB 78 without needing to install something manually. Not surprisingly, every piece of software needs some maintenance from time to time -- that's why you got an update. As long as you don't uninstall Enigmail, you can expect to receive updates to it from time to time. -Patrick [1] https://admin.hostpoint.ch/pipermail/enigmail-users_enigmail.net/2020-August/005700.html signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] thunderbird 78
On 02/09/2020 21:40, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > As an example: if an American shopkeeper tells you her business is open > "until six", that means if you stop by at five minutes after six you'll > find the store is closed. :) Well, this is also true most other places (in theory at least, in practice it's another thing entirely!). But if she says she'll be open "until Friday" it's more likely to mean she's open until 6 pm on Friday, than until 6 am. ;-) -- Andrew Gallagher signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] thunderbird 78
> I think this is an American-English idiom misunderstanding. Americans > use “through” quite consistently to mean “until the end of”, which > then implies by omission that “until” means “until the beginning of” > - but such use of “through” is uncommon this side of the Atlantic, so > an unqualified “until” is ambiguous. It could mean “until some time > in” (unless of course it’s an instantaneous reference like “until > midnight”). Thank you, Andrew! I agree: the American usage for "until X" is not universally held. As an example: if an American shopkeeper tells you her business is open "until six", that means if you stop by at five minutes after six you'll find the store is closed. :) I apologize to everyone for this miscommunication. ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] thunderbird 78
> On 2 Sep 2020, at 14:17, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > >>> At least until 2021. >> Well no, that's definitely not what I wrote. At least until the end of >> 2020. And if I will extend support (which is not yet decided), then >> *certainly* not for more than 6 additional months. > > "Until", not "until and including". :) I think this is an American-English idiom misunderstanding. Americans use “through” quite consistently to mean “until the end of”, which then implies by omission that “until” means “until the beginning of” - but such use of “through” is uncommon this side of the Atlantic, so an unqualified “until” is ambiguous. It could mean “until some time in” (unless of course it’s an instantaneous reference like “until midnight”). A ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] thunderbird 78
At least until 2021. Well no, that's definitely not what I wrote. At least until the end of 2020. And if I will extend support (which is not yet decided), then *certainly* not for more than 6 additional months. "Until", not "until and including". :) You're saying, "from now to December 31, 2020". I'm saying, "from now to January 1, 2021". If that one day makes a big difference, though, I'll cheerfully accept the correction. :) ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] thunderbird 78
On 01.09.2020 22:32, Robert J. Hansen wrote: >> since thunderbird 78 doesnt need any enigmail. How long are you going >> to support your thunderbird add-on? > > At least until 2021. Well no, that's definitely not what I wrote. At least until the end of 2020. And if I will extend support (which is not yet decided), then *certainly* not for more than 6 additional months. -Patrick signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] thunderbird 78
On 9/1/2020 1:32 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
>> since thunderbird 78 doesnt need any enigmail. How long are you going
>> to support your thunderbird add-on?
> At least until 2021.
I did the upgrade from TB68 to TB78 on two of my Windows 10 office
computers. One went flawlessly. The other had a hitch with trying to
migrate a non-existent key but that was solved and the process completed.
After trying out TB78 on my main computer, I found that two very
important add-ons that I use heavily in message composing ("External
Editor" and "Signature Switch") are not supported in TB78 and at least
one author is not sure whether he will migrate it to TB78. We all went
through this with Firefox last year.
As a result I had to reinstall TB68 on that computer. Even though I
knew the architecture of how TB is stored in Windows and had a current
file backup it took a lot of time and unfortunately some mail messages
were lost in the transition.
The upshot is that unless those extensions are migrated I will have to
keep using TB68 and Enigmail on that computer. The other computer will
keep running TB78.
Thank you for all your efforts in bringing usable encryption to the user
community.
Phil Kane
Beaverton, OR USA
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Re: [Enigmail] thunderbird 78
> since thunderbird 78 doesnt need any enigmail. How long are you going > to support your thunderbird add-on? At least until 2021. ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] thunderbird 78
On 01.09.2020 11:34, rollstory wrote: > Dear enigmailsupport team, > > since thunderbird 78 doesnt need any enigmail. How long are you going to > support your thunderbird add-on? The problem i am having is, that the > thunderbird 78 doesnt use your "empfängerregeln" (german word i have no > translation for), which i use extensively to encrypt mailling lists. But > if there is no support i gonna have to stop this and switch to Schleuder. Can > you give me some advise=? Read the following announcement. The last part, at the end of the mail explains everything. https://admin.hostpoint.ch/pipermail/enigmail-users_enigmail.net/2020-August/005700.html -Patrick ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
[Enigmail] thunderbird 78
Dear enigmailsupport team, since thunderbird 78 doesnt need any enigmail. How long are you going to support your thunderbird add-on? The problem i am having is, that the thunderbird 78 doesnt use your "empfängerregeln" (german word i have no translation for), which i use extensively to encrypt mailling lists. But if there is no support i gonna have to stop this and switch to Schleuder. Can you give me some advise=? kind regards benny ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
