Re: [E-devel] RFC: embryo release in 2 weeks

2008-08-05 Thread Jose Gonzalez
Carsten wrote:

 On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:50:10 +0200 Cedric BAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

   
 On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:25 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:43:33 +0300 Viktor Kojouharov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 babbled:
   
 Rhino is java based, so that's out. Then we have SpiderMonkey, which is
 currently used by gecko1.9. That's not as fast as webkit's engine. Then
 there's tamarin, which is practically future proof, with its support for
 ES4. However, it's not complete. I don't know of any other engines out
 there.
 
 hmmm wel then it spidermonkey or... nothing. and spidermonkey is pretty
 fat... it's api is pretty big... :/ quick look.. not smelling positive. :(
   
 I am playing with spidermonkey since some time now and trust me you
 want to use lua for edje. It's smaller, easier to integrate and fit
 the need of edje. It's perhaps not a good solution for big apps, but
 for small script it should be perfect. And in my opinion, it's a
 matter of a few days to switch to lua in edje and we should do it
 sooner than latter. I would really like to see this before the end of
 august and looking at edje, sounds like a really straight forward
 jobs.
 

 man.. thank you! a man who has actually played with spidermonkey and js.. and
 real advice from the trenches! thanks muchly! confirms my thoughts that lua is
 a much better fit. i was thinking of getting lua in by end of august... i need
 to play with it first... the question is.. embryo - keep for compatibility
 (after the lua change) or throw out? i would keep it anyway while adding 
 lua...
 but then.. remove or not? i am listening to those using embryo right now.

   
  Design your stuff to be extensible, within reason and if there's reason
for it. You don't know what the future can bring, don't limit your design from
the start.. all that everyone here has done and has experience with is a drop
in an ocean.

  You didn't want loadable engines for evas at first (original evas), then
you did and Jorge rewrote a large amount of stuff.. now you want loadable objs
as well - there was always good reason for these. You chose embryo first for
edje, now you want to change it to another - there was always good reason for
that.

  Pick one, say LUA, and support that in the 'official' tree, drop embryo
if desired, but write the thing to allow for extensibility to support others.
If later in time someone(s), for some reason writes a js or whatnot one, and
it takes off and is used in ways none here expected then so much the better - 
let the 'market' decide, don't limit things from the start.



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Re: [E-devel] Time-based releases

2008-08-05 Thread Matteo
2008/8/5 Vincent Torri [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 On Mon, 4 Aug 2008, Caio Marcelo wrote:

  Just a small follow up on this question for those who are interested
  in this topic.
 
  On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  No, I'm not. What I want is to stop cooking things that are already
  done. Sometimes I really think that Mark Shuttleworth is right WRT
  time-based releases, man, this would make this project so good, SO
  GOOD that I can't even imagine. From the technical to the social side.
 


This means that we are near to a big change for e17?
As a user, I think that this kind of releases could be the right choice in
order to see a apha-beta-RC release of your work.

Maybe there could be some milestone in order to give the community some
release pseudo-stable, and to give some good signal to the community.

This ML is the most active list that I've ever seen, and I could see every
week some step to the final release in the e17 code, you have to show to
the world that you are still working, if you decide to publish a time-based
list of releases, even unstable release, I think this could be a positive
signal for the project.

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Re: [E-devel] E_Hal compilation problem

2008-08-05 Thread Dave Andreoli

- Sebastian Dransfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:

 Dave Andreoli wrote:
  Hi all
  I have problem using E_Hal (adn/or E_DBus) in an e module:
 
  If I use: #include E_DBus.h
  I always get:
 
In file included from /usr/local/include/E_Hal.h:3,
 from e_mod_main.c:3:
/usr/local/include/E_DBus.h:42: error: expected ‘{’ before ‘void’
/usr/local/include/E_DBus.h:42: error: two or more data types in
 declaration specifiers
 
  the line 42 of E_DBus.h is:
 typedef struct E_DBus_Interface E_DBus_Interface;
 
  Is right to link against E_dbus and E_hal in the module autotool? or
  is e17 that link against that libs?
  Someone has an idea? i'm getting creazy and is probably a stipid
 thing :(
 
 No problem including E_DBus.h or E_Hal.h here. Do you include anything
 before E_Hal.h?

I include e.h before (that should also include E_DBus.h).

 
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Re: [E-devel] [ANN] QEdje 0.1

2008-08-05 Thread Sebastian Dransfeld
You know that Nokia owns Qt?

Sebastian

Jorge Mariani wrote:
 Cool, any change of geting a GEdje (GTK)? I mean, to use with Gambas,  
 for example?
 
 Regards.
 
 On Aug 4, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Caio Oliveira wrote:
 
 Hello,

 We at OpenBossa (opensource stream of INdT) are pleased to announce  
 the
 first version of QEdje, a library that enables the use of Edje
 components in Qt4.

 I guess I don't need to describe Edje for you :-), so I'm skipping  
 that.
 This is experimental code, some features are not implemented yet,
 scripting is one of them, but we are aiming to be fully compatible  
 with
 libedje.

 Some of the developers have written about it, see

   http://atdrez.wordpress.com/2008/07/19/qedje/
   http://labs.morpheuz.eng.br/blog/01/08/2008/qedje-init/

 The project website is

   http://dev.openbossa.org/qedje

 and there's also a mailing list, more information at

   http://groups.google.com/group/qedje

 The developers are also most of the time available at #edevelop  
 channel.


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Re: [E-devel] E_Hal compilation problem

2008-08-05 Thread Dave Andreoli

- Dave Andreoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:

 - Sebastian Dransfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
 
  Dave Andreoli wrote:
   Hi all
   I have problem using E_Hal (adn/or E_DBus) in an e module:
  
   If I use: #include E_DBus.h
   I always get:
  
 In file included from /usr/local/include/E_Hal.h:3,
  from e_mod_main.c:3:
 /usr/local/include/E_DBus.h:42: error: expected ‘{’ before
 ‘void’
 /usr/local/include/E_DBus.h:42: error: two or more data types in
  declaration specifiers
  
   the line 42 of E_DBus.h is:
  typedef struct E_DBus_Interface E_DBus_Interface;
  
   Is right to link against E_dbus and E_hal in the module autotool?
 or
   is e17 that link against that libs?
   Someone has an idea? i'm getting creazy and is probably a stipid
  thing :(
 
  No problem including E_DBus.h or E_Hal.h here. Do you include
 anything
  before E_Hal.h?
 
 I include e.h before (that should also include E_DBus.h).

Ok, I solved the problem.
Was because in the module HAVE_EDBUS isn't set and this cause problems
in e_msgbus.h (ther's a check for HAVE_EDBUS at line 6).

I have fixed with:
AC_DEFINE(HAVE_EDBUS, 1, [E_Dbus support])
in configure.in

Thanks all!
dave


 
 
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Re: [E-devel] E_Hal compilation problem

2008-08-05 Thread Sebastian Dransfeld
Dave Andreoli wrote:
 Hi all
 I have problem using E_Hal (adn/or E_DBus) in an e module:
 
 If I use: #include E_DBus.h
 I always get:
 
   In file included from /usr/local/include/E_Hal.h:3,
from e_mod_main.c:3:
   /usr/local/include/E_DBus.h:42: error: expected ‘{’ before ‘void’
   /usr/local/include/E_DBus.h:42: error: two or more data types in 
 declaration specifiers
 
 the line 42 of E_DBus.h is:
typedef struct E_DBus_Interface E_DBus_Interface;
 
 Is right to link against E_dbus and E_hal in the module autotool? or
 is e17 that link against that libs?
 Someone has an idea? i'm getting creazy and is probably a stipid thing :(

No problem including E_DBus.h or E_Hal.h here. Do you include anything 
before E_Hal.h?

Sebastian

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[E-devel] Nightly build log for E17 on 2008-08-05 07:10:35 -0700

2008-08-05 Thread Nightly build system
Build log for Enlightenment DR 0.17 on 2008-08-05 07:10:35 -0700
Build logs are available at http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs

Packages that failed to build:
enna  http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/enna.log
epdf  http://download.enlightenment.org/tests/logs/epdf.log

Packages with no supported build system:
entice, esmart_rsvg, exorcist, python-efl, 

Packages skipped:
camE, ecore_dbus, engage, enotes, enscribe, epbb, eplay, erss, etk_server, 
etox, e_utils, Evas_Perl, evoak, gfx_routines, lvs-gui, med, nexus, notgame, 
ruby-efl, webcam, 

Packages that build OK:
alarm, bling, calendar, cpu, deskshow, echo, eclair, ecore_li, ecore, edata, 
edb, e_dbus, edje_editor, edje, edje_viewer, edvi, eet, eflame, eflpp, efm_nav, 
efm_path, efreet, elapse, elation, elicit, elitaire, e, embrace, embryo, 
emotion, emphasis, empower, emprint, emu, enesim, engrave, engycad, enhance, 
enity, enterminus, enthrall, entrance_edit_gui, entrance, entropy, envision, 
epeg, ephoto, e_phys, epsilon, epx, equate, esmart, estickies, etk_extra, 
etk, etk-perl, evas, evfs, evolve, ewl, examine, execwatch, exhibit, exml, 
expedite, express, exquisite, extrackt, feh, flame, forecasts, gevas2, iconbar, 
iiirk, imlib2_loaders, imlib2, Imlib2_Perl, imlib2_tools, language, mail, 
mem, mixer, moon, mpdule, net, news, notification, penguins, pesh, photo, 
rage, rain, screenshot, scrot, skel, slideshow, snow, taskbar, tclock, uptime, 
weather, winselector, wlan, 

Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 \n \l

Linux enlightenment2 2.6.18-4-686 #1 SMP Wed May 9 23:03:12 UTC 2007 i686 
GNU/Linux


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Re: [E-devel] [ANN] QEdje 0.1

2008-08-05 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:39 AM, Sebastian Dransfeld
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You know that Nokia owns Qt?

Well, given that the guys work at INdT (instituto NOKIA de tecnologia
- Nokia Institute of Technology), I guess they know, actually that was
one of the reasons to do so ;-)

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Re: [E-devel] Time-based releases

2008-08-05 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Caio Marcelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just a small follow up on this question for those who are interested
 in this topic.

 On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No, I'm not. What I want is to stop cooking things that are already
 done. Sometimes I really think that Mark Shuttleworth is right WRT
 time-based releases, man, this would make this project so good, SO
 GOOD that I can't even imagine. From the technical to the social side.

 IMHO, I also like the idea of time-based releases. As a reference I'll
 put up two examples that I think are nice:


 1) http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Kernel_Release_Numbering_Redux

 This is about the version numbering, but IMHO is essentially a
 recognition from the developers (or at least Linus), that thinking
 about 1.0, 1.2, 2.6.26 for Linux doesn't make much sense anymore. They
 detached releases from features. If the new feature is ready for this
 one, it goes in this release. If not, cook a bit more and appear in
 the next.


 2) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/FeatureList

 Fedora is a Linux distribution. Here's a simplification of how it
 works: they organize the releases by proposing new features (whoever
 is going to hack propose them) for the release and keeping a status
 about them. The ones that are 100% when it's freeze time are in. The
 others not ready are moved back to proposed for the next release. I
 guess what Ubuntu folks do is similar.


 The overhead of releasing can be as simple as build some scripts to
 bump stuff up and generate tarballs (btw, raster already has its
 asparagus script that does something similar :-)...). Or am I missing
 something here?[*]


 Maybe people disagree on *what* should be called a release? Were the
 asparagus snapshots releases? (maybe my understanding of what is a
 release is too weak, I don't exclude that possibility)

 Or even people disagree on where should we start with these time-boxed 
 releases?


 [*] btw, if you're wondering how could we do something like let's
 take this part out if not ready in the code, branches can help you
 with that, do the new features in topic branches and then integrate
 to main tree when they are ok. You can even keep a tree up with all
 those ongoing features, for people testing if you want (that's similar
 to what people call next tree in some projects). But I'm really not
 pushing git or anything here, I think this cherry picking of
 features is less important right now than the other questions.

I'm all for it, let's do it!

As for this last remark, moving to SVN is one step further and
integration with GIT is even easier. Those that wish can develop in
GIT branches and when ready just merge to trunk, Those who don't know
how to use GIT (ie: RASTER! ;-)) can keep polluting the trunk with
regular commits as they do nowadays.

Given the project size, number of active contributors and commit rate,
a freeze period can be very short and will not impact us too much. We
can start the freeze always on weekends and do saturday/sunday bug
hunting day, freeze for one week maximum and release on the other
weekend.

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Re: [E-devel] Time-based releases

2008-08-05 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
For those interested in using Git with SVN, here's a nice getting
started article. It's written from the assumption that you're using
Google Code, but it's really discussing general SVN and Git workflow.

http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/05/develop-with-git-on-google-code-project.html

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Caio Marcelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just a small follow up on this question for those who are interested
 in this topic.

 On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No, I'm not. What I want is to stop cooking things that are already
 done. Sometimes I really think that Mark Shuttleworth is right WRT
 time-based releases, man, this would make this project so good, SO
 GOOD that I can't even imagine. From the technical to the social side.

 IMHO, I also like the idea of time-based releases. As a reference I'll
 put up two examples that I think are nice:


 1) http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Kernel_Release_Numbering_Redux

 This is about the version numbering, but IMHO is essentially a
 recognition from the developers (or at least Linus), that thinking
 about 1.0, 1.2, 2.6.26 for Linux doesn't make much sense anymore. They
 detached releases from features. If the new feature is ready for this
 one, it goes in this release. If not, cook a bit more and appear in
 the next.


 2) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/FeatureList

 Fedora is a Linux distribution. Here's a simplification of how it
 works: they organize the releases by proposing new features (whoever
 is going to hack propose them) for the release and keeping a status
 about them. The ones that are 100% when it's freeze time are in. The
 others not ready are moved back to proposed for the next release. I
 guess what Ubuntu folks do is similar.


 The overhead of releasing can be as simple as build some scripts to
 bump stuff up and generate tarballs (btw, raster already has its
 asparagus script that does something similar :-)...). Or am I missing
 something here?[*]


 Maybe people disagree on *what* should be called a release? Were the
 asparagus snapshots releases? (maybe my understanding of what is a
 release is too weak, I don't exclude that possibility)

 Or even people disagree on where should we start with these time-boxed 
 releases?


 [*] btw, if you're wondering how could we do something like let's
 take this part out if not ready in the code, branches can help you
 with that, do the new features in topic branches and then integrate
 to main tree when they are ok. You can even keep a tree up with all
 those ongoing features, for people testing if you want (that's similar
 to what people call next tree in some projects). But I'm really not
 pushing git or anything here, I think this cherry picking of
 features is less important right now than the other questions.

 I'm all for it, let's do it!

 As for this last remark, moving to SVN is one step further and
 integration with GIT is even easier. Those that wish can develop in
 GIT branches and when ready just merge to trunk, Those who don't know
 how to use GIT (ie: RASTER! ;-)) can keep polluting the trunk with
 regular commits as they do nowadays.

 Given the project size, number of active contributors and commit rate,
 a freeze period can be very short and will not impact us too much. We
 can start the freeze always on weekends and do saturday/sunday bug
 hunting day, freeze for one week maximum and release on the other
 weekend.

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Re: [E-devel] [ANN] QEdje 0.1

2008-08-05 Thread Sebastian Dransfeld
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:39 AM, Sebastian Dransfeld
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You know that Nokia owns Qt?
 
 Well, given that the guys work at INdT (instituto NOKIA de tecnologia
 - Nokia Institute of Technology), I guess they know, actually that was
 one of the reasons to do so ;-)
 

Was more a response to the guy who asked for gtk support :)

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Re: [E-devel] Time-based releases

2008-08-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:38:54 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:


 As for this last remark, moving to SVN is one step further and
 integration with GIT is even easier. Those that wish can develop in
 GIT branches and when ready just merge to trunk, Those who don't know
 how to use GIT (ie: RASTER! ;-)) can keep polluting the trunk with
 regular commits as they do nowadays.

bzzzt. wrong :) i do know how to use git - been using it now for a few months.
i think svn is a better choice - for us. :) (i particularly have come to
dislike git's mergetool handling.. and when it fucks up... man it fucks you
up...)

 Given the project size, number of active contributors and commit rate,
 a freeze period can be very short and will not impact us too much. We
 can start the freeze always on weekends and do saturday/sunday bug
 hunting day, freeze for one week maximum and release on the other
 weekend.
 
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Re: [E-devel] Time-based releases

2008-08-05 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:36 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:38:54 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:


 As for this last remark, moving to SVN is one step further and
 integration with GIT is even easier. Those that wish can develop in
 GIT branches and when ready just merge to trunk, Those who don't know
 how to use GIT (ie: RASTER! ;-)) can keep polluting the trunk with
 regular commits as they do nowadays.

 bzzzt. wrong :) i do know how to use git - been using it now for a few months.
 i think svn is a better choice - for us. :) (i particularly have come to
 dislike git's mergetool handling.. and when it fucks up... man it fucks you
 up...)

as I said... ;-)

being using git as you use cvs is just driving a car like you drive a bicycle.

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Re: [E-devel] Time-based releases

2008-08-05 Thread raoul
Le mercredi 6 août 2008, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri a écrit :
 On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:36 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:38:54 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
  As for this last remark, moving to SVN is one step further and
  integration with GIT is even easier. Those that wish can develop in
  GIT branches and when ready just merge to trunk, Those who don't know
  how to use GIT (ie: RASTER! ;-)) can keep polluting the trunk with
  regular commits as they do nowadays.
 
  bzzzt. wrong :) i do know how to use git - been using it now for a few
  months. i think svn is a better choice - for us. :) (i particularly have
  come to dislike git's mergetool handling.. and when it fucks up... man it
  fucks you up...)

 as I said... ;-)

 being using git as you use cvs is just driving a car like you drive a
 bicycle.

But really, when you see something like that:
http://ktown.kde.org/~zrusin/git/git-cheat-sheet-large.png

It scares me a lot about how easy git can be :-p

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Re: [E-devel] [ANN] QEdje 0.1

2008-08-05 Thread Lance Fetters
Jorge Mariani wrote:
 Cool, any change of geting a GEdje (GTK)? I mean, to use with Gambas,  
 for example?

If you haven't already, you could try gevas2:

   http://www.enlightenment.org/viewvc/misc/gevas2/

There's also an article about it by the author available on Linux 
Journal (from 2005):

   http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8213

Though the code is a bit old, it still seems to work ok. I'm currently 
using it to slowly convert a GTK project to EFL.

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[E-devel] evas_object_image rotation?

2008-08-05 Thread Yong Ma
Hi all, I want to know  if there are some ways to rotate an image object
to a custom angle with C language API of EFL, here is some Python code I
googled,  but I could not find the corresponding function in
Ecore_Evas/Evas C language API documents. I really appreciate if anyone
can tell me how to or send me some example code. The Python code is as
following:

#!/usr/bin/env python

import sys
import ecore
import evas
import ecore.evas

if 'x11' in sys.argv:
ee = ecore.evas.SoftwareX11(w=800, h=480)
else:
ee = ecore.evas.SoftwareX11_16(w=800, h=480)

bg = ee.evas.Rectangle(color=(255, 255, 255, 255))
bg.size = ee.evas.size
bg.show()

img = ee.evas.Image()
img.file_set(icon.png)
img.move(380, 200)
w, h = img.image_size_get()
img.resize(w, h)
img.fill_set(0, 0, w, h)
img.show()

rotation = [evas.EVAS_IMAGE_ROTATE_90]
def rotate_img(rotation):
img.rotate(rotation[0])
rotation[0] += 1
return rotation[0] = evas.EVAS_IMAGE_ROTATE_270

ee.fullscreen = False
ee.show()

ecore.timer_add(2.0, rotate_img, rotation)
ecore.main_loop_begin()

# prevent segfault
del ee

Thank you very much!

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