[E-devel] edje_edit with edje_decc?

2008-11-30 Thread Andreas Volz
Hello,

any ideas why edje_decc creates a build script that likes to exec
edje_edit? If I change it to edje_cc recompiling works.

BTW: I created the edj file with edje_editor.

regards
Andreas

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[E-devel] ecore_ipc ref and ref_to use

2008-11-30 Thread utopic

Hi all,

I'm coding a program that uses ecore_ipc, and I used ref and ref_to
values to know wich function should process the recived message. I was
able to pass the values I need in both ref and ref_to, but since
last svn actualization I can't.
How I should use this two values?

Many thanks,

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Re: [E-devel] Project support on edje_editor

2008-11-30 Thread Leandro Santiago
Oops, sorry for mistake, was using an older version ... Now on my 
computer upgraded the installation and really can decompile a file 
created in edje_editor :-)

Dave Andreoli escreveu:
 - Leandro Santiago [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:

   
 Hello E-guys.

 I do not know if it would be feasible at the moment, but I think it 
 would be interesting if it were implemented projects support in 
 edje_editor.

 Currently the edje_editor handles files directly edje, but I think it

 would be interesting if the final product was the source code files

 (.edc, pictures and files from sources) and not a binary file.

 Then the user manually compiled the project using the edje_cc, which 
 reduces problems of incompatibility, as it is currently impossible to

 re-edit a file edje created by edje_editor.
 

 Wrong, you can now decompile the edje files created with the editor.
 So you can just edje_decc your .edj to have the sources. Maybe you
 need to pay attention at images paths.


   
 I know that today is not priority, but an editor of effective
 interfaces 
 would be very interesting to move closer to enlightenment with new
 users 
 willing to contribute with themes and more.

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Re: [E-devel] edje_edit with edje_decc?

2008-11-30 Thread Dave Andreoli

- Andreas Volz [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:

 Hello,
 
 any ideas why edje_decc creates a build script that likes to exec
 edje_edit? If I change it to edje_cc recompiling works.

yes, it's a know-little-bug, for now just take your time to 
edit the build script by hand ;)

dave

 
 BTW: I created the edj file with edje_editor.
 
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Re: [E-devel] ecore_ipc ref and ref_to use

2008-11-30 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:19 AM, utopic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,

I'm coding a program that uses ecore_ipc, and I used ref and ref_to
 values to know wich function should process the recived message. I was
 able to pass the values I need in both ref and ref_to, but since
 last svn actualization I can't.
How I should use this two values?

why are you using ecore_ipc? I'd use dbus (more standard and has more
features, easier to use)  or direct pipes/sockets for simple and fast
communication.

AFAIK you can use private bus if you want to.

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Re: [E-devel] EFM: thoughts, current work et al.

2008-11-30 Thread jess
Holy Crap!!! ;-)  Thanks Guys!  I hadn't touched it in quite a while,
thanks for the direction! I can now dump thunar! ;-)



On Sat, 2008-11-29 at 09:50 +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: 
 On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:27:20 -0500 jess [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
 
  Hello,
On this thread, I have tried to read all of them, but have not heard
  any mention of the multiple windows that get opened when using the built
  in file mgr.  Is it configurable?  I have looked, but have found no way
  to have a double click on a directory open in that windows, vs opening a
  new window.  I saw someone mention that they hate treeviews (maybe
  Gustavo?), but personally, I'd rather have that than twenty windows open
  as I navigate through the directories.  Is this something that could be
  added as a configurable option?  Please let me know if I just haven't
  done the leg work to figure out how the current implementation could be
  configured to use one window vs many.
 
 yes it is. you haven't spent much time looking at the config - have you? :) 
 you
 will also want to try the efm_nav module.
 
  Thanks,
  Jess
  
  
  On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 19:13 -0200, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
   On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Dave Andreoli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
   
- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
   
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 8:46 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:54:36 +0100 Chidambar 'ilLogict' Zinnoury
 2. all operations (copy, move, delete) have no progress on screen -
if there is
 a queue of work (like delete this dir then copy this to here, move
this to here
 etc.) you can't see it. the idea was to put such status inside the
efm window
 in-line with where the action was initiated or where it belongs (eg
if u delete
 a file in a dir then put the status in that dir).
   
what to do when window is closed? and when that folder is viewed
again? I'd like to have the progress even if I close the window...
either do not close it or when you close detach the progress
status.
   
   
 4. removable device handling (done via hal and dbus at least for the
raw nuts
 and bolts) mostly seems to work but is a bit hackey the way it
writes .desktop
 files to ~/.e/e/fileman/favorites then forcibly symlinks them to
your Desktop -
 this could be cleaned up and made more robust with more options (eg
also put
 them on other desktops eg Desktop-1 and -2 etc.).
   
I hate these links. IMHO they should be transparent.
   
Actually, the idea would be to follow kde's path to have directory
views of EFM and selectively choose to show devices. That way we
can
just have a EFM view with show devices to show our ~/Desktop as a
gadman. We can even have multiple views in the same desktops (ie: ~/
and ~/Desktop) or different views per desktops (~/Desktop-1,
~/Desktop-2...)
   
With that I could choose to view ~/.empty-folder and show devices
to
list just the external devices.
   
   
 8. renaming files has a dialog - this is because it was hard to do
before. now
 we can rename in-place. edje's own entry can now do this. this needs
changing.
   
Even with edje support is remains difficult. You must ensure that the
edited text is visible (ie: you're editing next to a border, you
should pan/scroll to make sure it is visible).
   
 11. while i'm at it the open with.. dialog is not bad - but the
2-list thing
 needs to go. 1 list. also ilist is again abused with a massive list
of stuff
 (poor ilist. i need to make it possible for ilist to defer list
adding and size
 calculation with an add queue). so likely that dialog could do with
a toolbar
 at the top to select between applications that say they do handle
that
 mime-type, and all applications as 2 separate lists and you switch
between.
   
about ilist, using Smart's changed could help a lot and remove need
for freeze/thaw. Other than that we could port guarana's MVC list for
such thing, it's very fast when you have rows with the same renderer
(same edje group could be applied).
   
My personal items would be:
   
12. keyboard shortcuts: ^c, ^v, ^x...
   
13. enable easy open of efm at some folder, specially from cmdline...
efm ~/my-folder would be handy.
   
+1 ... and we also need a .desktop file for efm. A fast way to 
implement
this is probably to setup a new e_remote option like
enlightenemnt_remote --showfm
than you can have an alias like efm and you can have your desktop file.
   
Ok, I was trying to implement it when I got stuck with e_ipc stuff
being all hardcoded... no dynamic extensions to
enlightenment_remote... BUT I remembered that fileman 

[E-devel] edje interactive transition

2008-11-30 Thread Hendrik Siedelmann
Hi,

while fooling around with elementary trying to write some widgets I
found a pretty huge limitation in edje.
I was writing a page flip widget to be used for example for slideshow,
document viewer but also for page switching using cursor/finger on
touchscreen. But there seems to be no way to interaktiv set the
transition between two states in edje. For example I want to blend
between two parts depending on how far the cursor moved while pressed
down. This way mouse gestures would get visualised by a preview of
what would happen. But there I found no way to do this in edje one can
only do the full transition...

So is there (or is planned)
- something like edje_object_part_state_set to manually set the current state
or (in my opinion better because it is better animated)
- transition: INTERAKIV which would on every animator tick call some
callback to get the current speed of transition. This would have the
benefit that it could smooth the speed values it gets, so the
animation is always smooth even if coming from bad real data
(touchscreen position, acceleromter data ...).

Or is there another way to do what I want? For know I'll propably just
create some intermediate states, but thats not really a solution.

hendrik

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[E-devel] make dist fails for e17 (in po/)

2008-11-30 Thread Vincent Torri

Hey

just trying to run make dist for e17. I have an error due to .po files 
(I think):

make[3]: Entering directory `/home/torri/tmp/svnroot/e17/apps/e/po'
make[3]: `bg.gmo' is up to date.
make[3]: `ca.gmo' is up to date.
rm -f cs.gmo  /usr/bin/msgfmt -c --statistics -o cs.gmo cs.po
cs.po:1180: number of format specifications in 'msgid' and 'msgstr' does not 
match
cs.po:4188: 'msgstr' is not a valid C format string, unlike 'msgid'. 
Reason: In the directive number 1, the character ' ' is not a valid conversion 
specifier.
cs.po:5639: format specifications in 'msgid' and 'msgstr' for argument 2 are 
not the same
/usr/bin/msgfmt: found 3 fatal errors
533 translated messages, 23 fuzzy translations, 832 untranslated messages.
make[3]: *** [cs.gmo] Error 1

Vincent

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Re: [E-devel] make dist fails for e17 (in po/)

2008-11-30 Thread Massimo Maiurana
Vincent Torri, il 30/11/2008 21:36, scrisse:
 Hey
 
 just trying to run make dist for e17. I have an error due to .po files 

should be fixed now.

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Re: [E-devel] edje interactive transition

2008-11-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:27:35 +0100 Hendrik Siedelmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Hi,
 
 while fooling around with elementary trying to write some widgets I
 found a pretty huge limitation in edje.
 I was writing a page flip widget to be used for example for slideshow,
 document viewer but also for page switching using cursor/finger on
 touchscreen. But there seems to be no way to interaktiv set the
 transition between two states in edje. For example I want to blend
 between two parts depending on how far the cursor moved while pressed
 down. This way mouse gestures would get visualised by a preview of
 what would happen. But there I found no way to do this in edje one can
 only do the full transition...

for this - you need to use embryo script {}... it is possible - with a bit of
thought and complexity and custom states :)

 So is there (or is planned)
 - something like edje_object_part_state_set to manually set the current state
 or (in my opinion better because it is better animated)
 - transition: INTERAKIV which would on every animator tick call some
 callback to get the current speed of transition. This would have the
 benefit that it could smooth the speed values it gets, so the
 animation is always smooth even if coming from bad real data
 (touchscreen position, acceleromter data ...).
 
 Or is there another way to do what I want? For know I'll propably just
 create some intermediate states, but thats not really a solution.
 
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Re: [E-devel] edje interactive transition

2008-11-30 Thread Toma
2008/12/1 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:27:35 +0100 Hendrik Siedelmann
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Hi,

 while fooling around with elementary trying to write some widgets I
 found a pretty huge limitation in edje.
 I was writing a page flip widget to be used for example for slideshow,
 document viewer but also for page switching using cursor/finger on
 touchscreen. But there seems to be no way to interaktiv set the
 transition between two states in edje. For example I want to blend
 between two parts depending on how far the cursor moved while pressed
 down. This way mouse gestures would get visualised by a preview of
 what would happen. But there I found no way to do this in edje one can
 only do the full transition...

 for this - you need to use embryo script {}... it is possible - with a bit of
 thought and complexity and custom states :)


A thought for DaveMDS with edje_editor...
Recording/plotting geometry values for a part? It would involve some
tricky embryo work but it would make a transition like that easier...
Could also make for some interesting animation options without the
piles of work. I dont know how flash artists plot objects movements
but that might be a good place to check out...

-Toma

 So is there (or is planned)
 - something like edje_object_part_state_set to manually set the current state
 or (in my opinion better because it is better animated)
 - transition: INTERAKIV which would on every animator tick call some
 callback to get the current speed of transition. This would have the
 benefit that it could smooth the speed values it gets, so the
 animation is always smooth even if coming from bad real data
 (touchscreen position, acceleromter data ...).

 Or is there another way to do what I want? For know I'll propably just
 create some intermediate states, but thats not really a solution.

 hendrik

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Re: [E-devel] EFM: thoughts, current work et al.

2008-11-30 Thread Vincent Pomageot
Hi,

As a user I'm very happy to see all this keen interest with efm. I really
like it since I use the thumbscroll feature (sometimes I even try to scroll
the firefox pages like this !) and I think it's good for basic operation /
navigation.

Nevertheless I'm used to select multiple files in a list view from one to
another by holding Shift and to separtely select files by holding Control...
In efm it's the opposite, is it an error ?

Like many of you I would like to have shortcuts to copy/paste and I'll add :
Alt+directions to navigate through folders like in others filemanager.

+ a module like efm_nav and path but which will show us the path with
buttons for a speedy navigation

+ an implementation of the delete in trash like in the trash module

+ a column view like in the macos finder, but raster said :

the fm widget views 1 directory at a time - that's how its built.
 changing that is major surgery.


So I don't know if it's feasible, but could be really great with some nice
translations when the columns have to slide, and could permits the last
column to show some more informations on the file selected... I'm dreaming
:)

... or if it's something not doable, why not adding some fancy effect when
opening a folder (when the open dirs in place is checked) ?

Hope it could make e even better !
Thank you e dev !
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Re: [E-devel] EFM: thoughts, current work et al.

2008-11-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 00:25:47 +0100 Vincent Pomageot
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 Hi,
 
 As a user I'm very happy to see all this keen interest with efm. I really
 like it since I use the thumbscroll feature (sometimes I even try to scroll
 the firefox pages like this !) and I think it's good for basic operation /
 navigation.
 
 Nevertheless I'm used to select multiple files in a list view from one to
 another by holding Shift and to separtely select files by holding Control...
 In efm it's the opposite, is it an error ?

no. windows reversed the convention. before windows existed in the mac and
amiga etc. worlds shift was multi-select, control was range select. i am
following the original convention by default. efm can switch to do it the
windows way. but nothng is exposed in the gui to do that - the code is there
though.

 Like many of you I would like to have shortcuts to copy/paste and I'll add :
 Alt+directions to navigate through folders like in others filemanager.
 
 + a module like efm_nav and path but which will show us the path with
 buttons for a speedy navigation
 
 + an implementation of the delete in trash like in the trash module
 
 + a column view like in the macos finder, but raster said :
 
 the fm widget views 1 directory at a time - that's how its built.

you could do this with multiple fm views... but this is going too far. efm is
intended as a basic SIMPLE fm that you get for free because the majority of
the infra for a fm is already lurking inside e - and this just exposes it. we
need to get e17 released and so i want efm to remain simple - we can worry
about more features after release - unless those features are really core to
the thing working properly at all. as such the old fm that brought up a new
window per dir worked wonders on macos and amigaos and a dozen others for many
years. its very simple and flexible. thats all i wanted for e17 - fore e18 etc.
we can look at doing more.

  changing that is major surgery.
 
 
 So I don't know if it's feasible, but could be really great with some nice
 translations when the columns have to slide, and could permits the last
 column to show some more informations on the file selected... I'm dreaming
 :)
 
 ... or if it's something not doable, why not adding some fancy effect when
 opening a folder (when the open dirs in place is checked) ?
 
 Hope it could make e even better !
 Thank you e dev !
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