Re: [E-devel] Being social...
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Massimiliano Calamelli mcalame...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm here again with some ideas related to Spread the word task. Now the topic is: Social Networks. Joining social networks (mainly Twitter, LinkedIn and Facebook) could be a easy and effective way to spread E around the world. Each network has its own characteristics and purpose, so we can (must) differentiate our presence in each. Damn, geek are supposed to be social today ! What a strange world :-) ** Twitter ** This can be assumed as a fast way to communicate what happens. Short sentences (160chars, like a SMS), like Tomorrow, 1st April E17 will be released http://shorturl or SVN commit r4, efm2 fully working http://shorturl, just an very little introduction to a something that is explained in another place. ** LinkedIn ** The purpose of LinkedIn is making a professional trusted networks between people around the world. The presence of an Enlightenment group could create new contacts (and contracts) between E's people and commiters. I already have some of you in my contact list, so we already use it. It's just a matter of creating an Enlightenment group and using all LinkedIn possibility. In my opinion, it make sense. ** Facebook ** There's no need to explain what is;a presence of E official group or a fan page could have the only purpose to aggregate users. For now I found only one Enlightenment user page, not updated frequently. That would be a good reason to create an account if enought of us are interested. Another interesting social service is FriendFeed (www.friendfeed.com). Having an account here means aggregate a lot of other service you use, and keep your friend updated about your activity. What do you think about? We need to communicate more and attract more devs, so your proposal sounds really like a good step for this goal. -- Cedric BAIL -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Being social...
2009/3/18 Cedric BAIL cedric.b...@free.fr: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Massimiliano Calamelli mcalame...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm here again with some ideas related to Spread the word task. Now the topic is: Social Networks. Joining social networks (mainly Twitter, LinkedIn and Facebook) could be a easy and effective way to spread E around the world. Each network has its own characteristics and purpose, so we can (must) differentiate our presence in each. Damn, geek are supposed to be social today ! What a strange world :-) ** Twitter ** This can be assumed as a fast way to communicate what happens. Short sentences (160chars, like a SMS), like Tomorrow, 1st April E17 will be released http://shorturl or SVN commit r4, efm2 fully working http://shorturl, just an very little introduction to a something that is explained in another place. ** LinkedIn ** The purpose of LinkedIn is making a professional trusted networks between people around the world. The presence of an Enlightenment group could create new contacts (and contracts) between E's people and commiters. I already have some of you in my contact list, so we already use it. It's just a matter of creating an Enlightenment group and using all LinkedIn possibility. In my opinion, it make sense. ** Facebook ** There's no need to explain what is;a presence of E official group or a fan page could have the only purpose to aggregate users. For now I found only one Enlightenment user page, not updated frequently. That would be a good reason to create an account if enought of us are interested. Another interesting social service is FriendFeed (www.friendfeed.com). Having an account here means aggregate a lot of other service you use, and keep your friend updated about your activity. What do you think about? We need to communicate more and attract more devs, so your proposal sounds really like a good step for this goal. Agreed! Me and Mano are on facebook ~6 hrs a day. Its sickening. :) Ill look into making a product page. -Toma. -- Cedric BAIL -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Being social...
Damn, geek are supposed to be social today ! What a strange world :-) Hi Cedric, We can be social among ourselves. :) -- Veli Sungutay http://www.lyciasoft.com -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Being social...
Email me for admin rights. Its a little bare at the moment so feel free to upload vids, pics and stick GSoC up as an event, or any other event EFL will be represented in! http://www.facebook.com/pages/Enlightenment-Foundation-Libraries/61275701894 -Toma 2009/3/18 Veli Ogla Sungutay velisungu...@gmail.com: Damn, geek are supposed to be social today ! What a strange world :-) Hi Cedric, We can be social among ourselves. :) -- Veli Sungutay http://www.lyciasoft.com -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Being social...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:03:53 +0900 Toma tomha...@gmail.com wrote: Email me for admin rights. Its a little bare at the moment so feel free to upload vids, pics and stick GSoC up as an event, or any other event EFL will be represented in! http://www.facebook.com/pages/Enlightenment-Foundation-Libraries/61275701894 -Toma So fast, man! I invited Vincent and Andras from my contacts. Just a little question: why EFL (the libs) and not E17 (the DE)? Massimiliano - -- Massimiliano Calamelli http://www.mcalamelli.net mcalame...@gmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQFJwQF3leGEL56NNP4RAkL/AKDEwHcK0Ccq406tDk+70jFc9N1W7ACg6RxD u+rJ5y7DfGWVjkInJE+fcI0= =c15g -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Being social...
2009/3/18 Massimiliano Calamelli mcalame...@gmail.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:03:53 +0900 Toma tomha...@gmail.com wrote: Email me for admin rights. Its a little bare at the moment so feel free to upload vids, pics and stick GSoC up as an event, or any other event EFL will be represented in! http://www.facebook.com/pages/Enlightenment-Foundation-Libraries/61275701894 -Toma So fast, man! I invited Vincent and Andras from my contacts. Just a little question: why EFL (the libs) and not E17 (the DE)? It covers more. Can easily make an E17 page too. Massimiliano - -- Massimiliano Calamelli http://www.mcalamelli.net mcalame...@gmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQFJwQF3leGEL56NNP4RAkL/AKDEwHcK0Ccq406tDk+70jFc9N1W7ACg6RxD u+rJ5y7DfGWVjkInJE+fcI0= =c15g -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Being social...
There's already a group for enlightenment (e16 e17): http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=983647ref=mf Keep up the good work devs ! 2009/3/18 Massimiliano Calamelli mcalame...@gmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:15:14 +0900 Toma tomha...@gmail.com wrote: It covers more. Can easily make an E17 page too. K, sounds clear and good :) Massimiliano - -- Massimiliano Calamelli http://www.mcalamelli.net mcalame...@gmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQFJwQLNleGEL56NNP4RApl1AJ9toJpOc1tNhptpUBIJHBOKAjkt+wCdHiKA 25Q9r7Kd5uAwMR/X1nG+PAk= =s6l3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Being social...
On Wednesday 18 March 2009 15:13:10 Massimiliano Calamelli wrote: On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:03:53 +0900 Toma tomha...@gmail.com wrote: Email me for admin rights. Its a little bare at the moment so feel free to upload vids, pics and stick GSoC up as an event, or any other event EFL will be represented in! http://www.facebook.com/pages/Enlightenment-Foundation- Libraries/61275701 894 -Toma So fast, man! I invited Vincent and Andras from my contacts. Just a little question: why EFL (the libs) and not E17 (the DE)? There're two E17 groups on facebook, Enlightenment ( http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=983647# ) and Enlightenment (E17) users ( http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=983647#/group.php?gid=46606068563ref=ts ) I created e-users 'cause I couldn't find the Enlightenment group, doh :| Massimiliano -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Being social...
Well, don't split the fbook community, you guys decide which group you like the best and lets delete the rest. There're two E17 groups on facebook, Enlightenment ( http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=983647# ) and Enlightenment (E17) users ( http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=983647#/group.php? gid=46606068563ref=ts ) I created e-users 'cause I couldn't find the Enlightenment group, doh :| Massimiliano -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel Luchezar Petkov http://luchko.net -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Being social...
Then the Enlightenment group should stay, it has much more members, and also some comment traffic. Is it ok, to delete E17 users, then? On Wednesday 18 March 2009 22:02:26 Luchezar Petkov wrote: Well, don't split the fbook community, you guys decide which group you like the best and lets delete the rest. There're two E17 groups on facebook, Enlightenment ( http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=983647# ) and Enlightenment (E17) users ( http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=983647#/group.php? gid=46606068563ref=ts ) I created e-users 'cause I couldn't find the Enlightenment group, doh :| Massimiliano - - Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel Luchezar Petkov http://luchko.net -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Being social...
On Wednesday 18 March 2009 22:32:35 Massimiliano Calamelli wrote: 2009/3/18 Sevcsik András sevc...@gmail.com: Then the Enlightenment group should stay, it has much more members, and also some comment traffic. Is it ok, to delete E17 users, then? For me is good to have Enlightenment group and Enlightenment Foundation Libraries (built today by Toma-) page, removing E17 users. Massimiliano Ok, I deleted the group. Sevcsik -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Being social...
On Wednesday 18 March 2009 22:32:35 Massimiliano Calamelli wrote: 2009/3/18 Sevcsik András sevc...@gmail.com: Then the Enlightenment group should stay, it has much more members, and also some comment traffic. Is it ok, to delete E17 users, then? For me is good to have Enlightenment group and Enlightenment Foundation Libraries (built today by Toma-) page, removing E17 users. Massimiliano Ok, I deleted the group. -- András Sevcsik -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Being social...
The product page (One I made) is better for promo stuff, as we can add events, video, pics but also theres a thing called Insight for the admins where we can see all the page views for it and see what works and what doesnt. Groups are cool but fairly ineffective for a product. Also, you cant become a fan of a group. -Toma. 2009/3/19 Sevcsik András sevc...@gmail.com: On Wednesday 18 March 2009 22:32:35 Massimiliano Calamelli wrote: 2009/3/18 Sevcsik András sevc...@gmail.com: Then the Enlightenment group should stay, it has much more members, and also some comment traffic. Is it ok, to delete E17 users, then? For me is good to have Enlightenment group and Enlightenment Foundation Libraries (built today by Toma-) page, removing E17 users. Massimiliano Ok, I deleted the group. Sevcsik -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] Google Summer of Code...
All, I am very pleased to announce that Enlightenment has been accepted again this year to the Google Summer of Code. The Google Summer of Code offers affords students the opportunity to spend their summer flipping bits instead of burgers, by providing significant funding to them through the summer months. Further information regarding the Google Summer of code can be found here: http://socghop.appspot.com/ Our ideas page can be found here: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/GSoC_2009_Project_Ideas Please note that students are not required to pick from this list. The list is composed of ideas that we feel fit well with the direction of Enlightenment in general, and/or are directly on the road to the release of Enlightenment. Students are encouraged to propose their own unique ideas as well. Interested students are also encouraged to stop in #e or #edevelop on Freenode and meet members of the project and discuss their ideas. Likely mentors for ideas on our ideas page are listed. Please feel free to contact a listed mentor. Google will begin accepting student applications on March 23rd, with the final deadline being April 3rd. -- Regards, Ravenlock signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Being social...
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:58:38 +0100 Massimiliano Calamelli mcalame...@gmail.com said: has anyone noticed... we have a mailing list... irc channel - for different purposes. one for instant chat, one for this kind of thing... now flavor of the month social networking sits split everyone more. people speak of dont split the community. this does just that. facebook is a subset of the internet userbase. what about friendster? orkut? myspace? need i go on with the dozens of social networking sites we then all have to create e groups/users/whatever on. i dont say no - but i am raising the warning flag of just trying to be trendy. you are opening a pandoras box. i know i have gotten tired of these things. i get linked in and facebook invites almost daily. i'm tried of just clicking the link saying yes or going who the hell are you - i don't know you? and then proceeding to ignore the social network as almost no one actually uses it (other than trying to get their friend count higher to make them feel good). i know that i, for one, am not into the idea of having to log in with my browser to N different social networking sites each day just to keep up with forums/messages/requests etc.. even a web forum is utterly annoying compared to a normal mailing list run by a proper mail client with good threading. i just dont bother participating in even the web forums we ourselves had on e.org due to the fact that they just split the community and conversation, take extra time and effort to deal with on top of email, and also provide a far inferior usability level thus discouraging me at least from bothering ( so by opening this pandoras box... you are doing a similar thing. you're thinning the community. so don't let me put a dampener on the whole social fun thing, but after years of linked in and facebook invites flooding my inbox and mostly amounting to nothing (or just more join in a pointless facebook app like send a drink or send a kiss or send-a-hug or god knows what else...), i'm over it. it's a time sink that removes whatever time i would have had for doing actual development :). for some of you this might be all new and shiny... but me - i happily skulk back to my email and irc windows :) (maybe.. we just need to be better about promoting/making it easy to use these?) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm here again with some ideas related to Spread the word task. Now the topic is: Social Networks. Joining social networks (mainly Twitter, LinkedIn and Facebook) could be a easy and effective way to spread E around the world. Each network has its own characteristics and purpose, so we can (must) differentiate our presence in each. ** Twitter ** This can be assumed as a fast way to communicate what happens. Short sentences (160chars, like a SMS), like Tomorrow, 1st April E17 will be released http://shorturl or SVN commit r4, efm2 fully working http://shorturl, just an very little introduction to a something that is explained in another place. ** LinkedIn ** The purpose of LinkedIn is making a professional trusted networks between people around the world. The presence of an Enlightenment group could create new contacts (and contracts) between E's people and commiters. ** Facebook ** There's no need to explain what is;a presence of E official group or a fan page could have the only purpose to aggregate users. For now I found only one Enlightenment user page, not updated frequently. Another interesting social service is FriendFeed (www.friendfeed.com). Having an account here means aggregate a lot of other service you use, and keep your friend updated about your activity. What do you think about? Regards Massimiliano PS: as usual, my english isn't so good... I hope to be clear - -- Massimiliano Calamelli http://www.mcalamelli.net mcalame...@gmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQFJwPAAleGEL56NNP4RAuKIAJwKz9EoPZAVbxZrxghoL8PavbjKSwCg5uDN ENN16hs9qhOoJ6gR76ddGGc= =ViJs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex
Re: [E-devel] Being social...
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:53:48 +0100 Thomas Gstädtner tho...@gstaedtner.net said: I don't think E needs promotion, there has been a lot over the past years (not only in the community, also in big magazines with fancy articles and pictures). I think all E needs is a release, ease of use comes with that (as the problem is not missing usability of e17 itself, but much more to get it running at all for less advanced users). :) agreed. promotion is the least of our problems :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Being social...
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: has anyone noticed... we have a mailing list... irc channel - for different purposes. one for instant chat, one for this kind of thing... now flavor of the month social networking sits split everyone more. people speak of dont split the community. this does just that. facebook is a subset of the internet userbase. what about friendster? orkut? myspace? need i go on with the dozens of social networking sites we then all have to create e groups/users/whatever on. i dont say no - but i am raising the warning flag of just trying to be trendy. you are opening a pandoras box. i know i have gotten tired of these things. i get linked in and facebook invites almost daily. i'm tried of just clicking the link saying yes or going who the hell are you - i don't know you? and then proceeding to ignore the social network as almost no one actually uses it (other than trying to get their friend count higher to make them feel good). i know that i, for one, am not into the idea of having to log in with my browser to N different social networking sites each day just to keep up with forums/messages/requests etc.. even a web forum is utterly annoying compared to a normal mailing list run by a proper mail client with good threading. i just dont bother participating in even the web forums we ourselves had on e.org due to the fact that they just split the community and conversation, take extra time and effort to deal with on top of email, and also provide a far inferior usability level thus discouraging me at least from bothering ( so by opening this pandoras box... you are doing a similar thing. you're thinning the community. so don't let me put a dampener on the whole social fun thing, but after years of linked in and facebook invites flooding my inbox and mostly amounting to nothing (or just more join in a pointless facebook app like send a drink or send a kiss or send-a-hug or god knows what else...), i'm over it. it's a time sink that removes whatever time i would have had for doing actual development :). for some of you this might be all new and shiny... but me - i happily skulk back to my email and irc windows :) (maybe.. we just need to be better about promoting/making it easy to use these?) I don't think E needs promotion, there has been a lot over the past years (not only in the community, also in big magazines with fancy articles and pictures). I think all E needs is a release, ease of use comes with that (as the problem is not missing usability of e17 itself, but much more to get it running at all for less advanced users). :) -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
