Re: [E-devel] [PATCH] Add distinguish the target site to gadgets

2009-06-22 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 09:25:59PM +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
  Is it really usefull to unmap ? can't we trust the kernel to drop it
  when under presure ?
 
 unmapping should help give a hint... it also looks better in top/ps :)

The first part is already done by using madvise. It doesn't forcefully
trash the VM space though.

Joerg

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[E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7

2009-06-22 Thread Dan Kronstal
Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has looked
like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg since the new
design.

Cheers

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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7

2009-06-22 Thread Viktor Kojouharov
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 09:23 -0600, Dan Kronstal wrote:
 Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has looked
 like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg since the new
 design.
 
 Cheers
 
 Dan

no one cares. e users will not be using IE anytime soon. and its just
not worth the designer's time to fix these issues

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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7

2009-06-22 Thread Vincent Torri


On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Dan Kronstal wrote:

 Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has looked
 like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg since the new
 design.

about that, I suggest to the website maintainers to run the HTML and CSS 
validators on the web pages. The number of errors is quite large, and some 
css3 properties are used in the stylesheet. Maybe that's why the website 
is not correctly rendered with  IE7

Vincent

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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7

2009-06-22 Thread Vincent Torri


On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Viktor Kojouharov wrote:

 On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 09:23 -0600, Dan Kronstal wrote:
 Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has looked
 like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg since the new
 design.

 no one cares. e users will not be using IE anytime soon. and its just
 not worth the designer's time to fix these issues

but the designers should anyway fix the web pages with the validators.

Vincent

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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7

2009-06-22 Thread Viktor Kojouharov
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 19:17 +0200, Vincent Torri wrote:
 
 On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Viktor Kojouharov wrote:
 
  On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 09:23 -0600, Dan Kronstal wrote:
  Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has looked
  like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg since the 
  new
  design.
 
  no one cares. e users will not be using IE anytime soon. and its just
  not worth the designer's time to fix these issues
 
 but the designers should anyway fix the web pages with the validators.
 
 Vincent

perhaps. but that could lead to even more messed-up layout


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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7

2009-06-22 Thread Vincent Torri


On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Viktor Kojouharov wrote:

 On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 19:17 +0200, Vincent Torri wrote:

 On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Viktor Kojouharov wrote:

 On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 09:23 -0600, Dan Kronstal wrote:
 Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has looked
 like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg since the 
 new
 design.

 no one cares. e users will not be using IE anytime soon. and its just
 not worth the designer's time to fix these issues

 but the designers should anyway fix the web pages with the validators.

 Vincent

 perhaps. but that could lead to even more messed-up layout

then, it's designers' fault... The standards should (must) be respected.

Vincent

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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7

2009-06-22 Thread Michael Jennings
On Monday, 22 June 2009, at 19:48:31 (+0200),
Viktor Kojouharov wrote:

 perhaps. but that could lead to even more messed-up layout

Not if it's done correctly.

Coding for Firefox and ignoring IE simply because it's what the
majority of us use is just as wrong and tyrannical as web developers
coding for IE and ignoring Firefox simply because it's what the
majority of the web users use.

We should be coding to the standards, not to one particular browser.

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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7

2009-06-22 Thread andres
On Monday 22 June 2009 12:23:45 Dan Kronstal wrote:
 Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has looked
 like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg since the
 new design.

Does this happen with  http://enlightenment.org/dev/?
It does not in the ie7 version I use with wine but its really buggy and 
perhaps looks different in windows. If you encounter issues I guess could 
install a VM.

I routinely test with firefox, ie6, ie7 opera and arora (webkit) to cover all 
the main browser engines. Rest assured that all pages that I write will pass 
the W3C standard tests before being published as long as they are published 
by me.


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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7

2009-06-22 Thread Ian C
Look

Sent from my iPod


On Jun 22, 2009, at 12:55 PM, andres andresbl...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Monday 22 June 2009 12:23:45 Dan Kronstal wrote:
 Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has  
 looked
 like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg  
 since the
 new design.

 Does this happen with  http://enlightenment.org/dev/?
 It does not in the ie7 version I use with wine but its really buggy  
 and
 perhaps looks different in windows. If you encounter issues I guess  
 could
 install a VM.

 I routinely test with firefox, ie6, ie7 opera and arora (webkit) to  
 cover all
 the main browser engines. Rest assured that all pages that I write  
 will pass
 the W3C standard tests before being published as long as they are  
 published
 by me.


 Cheers

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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7

2009-06-22 Thread Ian C
Looks this way on ie8 maybe that's what he meant?

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 22, 2009, at 12:55 PM, andres andresbl...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Monday 22 June 2009 12:23:45 Dan Kronstal wrote:
 Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has  
 looked
 like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg  
 since the
 new design.

 Does this happen with  http://enlightenment.org/dev/?
 It does not in the ie7 version I use with wine but its really buggy  
 and
 perhaps looks different in windows. If you encounter issues I guess  
 could
 install a VM.

 I routinely test with firefox, ie6, ie7 opera and arora (webkit) to  
 cover all
 the main browser engines. Rest assured that all pages that I write  
 will pass
 the W3C standard tests before being published as long as they are  
 published
 by me.


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[E-devel] Evas and layout

2009-06-22 Thread Atton Jonathan
hey,

In eyelight I use some vertical layout but I don't get what I want. The
items are not set to the top but are placed to fill all the box. It seems
than the layout does:
the layout height / number of items = height of an item, each item has the
same height !

My items are created  from an edje group with a textblock inside.

I have attached a screenshot of the pb, each item has the same height,
consequently the last item (the bigger item) is not completely display ! The
vertical layout is not supposed to fit the item list to the top ?

With the help of Sachiel I have made some tests, especially try to set the
max size with the result of evas_object_geometry_get() but the result is 0
:/

Currently my code is:

Evas_Object *o_text = edje_object_add(pres-evas);
edje_object_file_set(o_text, pres-theme, eyelight/item_simple_text) ;
edje_object_part_text_set(o_text,object.text,text);
evas_object_size_hint_align_set(o_text, -1, -1);
evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(o_text, -1, -1);
evas_object_show(o_text);
evas_object_move(o_text, 0, 0);
edje_object_part_box_append(o_area,buf,o_text);

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Re: [E-devel] Evas and layout

2009-06-22 Thread Atton Jonathan
The file attached ...

http://watchwolf.fr/public/Eyelight/eyelight_item_height_bug.png

2009/6/22 Atton Jonathan jonathan.at...@gmail.com

 hey,

 In eyelight I use some vertical layout but I don't get what I want. The
 items are not set to the top but are placed to fill all the box. It seems
 than the layout does:
 the layout height / number of items = height of an item, each item has the
 same height !

 My items are created  from an edje group with a textblock inside.

 I have attached a screenshot of the pb, each item has the same height,
 consequently the last item (the bigger item) is not completely display ! The
 vertical layout is not supposed to fit the item list to the top ?

 With the help of Sachiel I have made some tests, especially try to set the
 max size with the result of evas_object_geometry_get() but the result is 0
 :/

 Currently my code is:

 Evas_Object *o_text = edje_object_add(pres-evas);
 edje_object_file_set(o_text, pres-theme, eyelight/item_simple_text)
 ;
 edje_object_part_text_set(o_text,object.text,text);
 evas_object_size_hint_align_set(o_text, -1, -1);
 evas_object_size_hint_weight_set(o_text, -1, -1);
 evas_object_show(o_text);
 evas_object_move(o_text, 0, 0);
 edje_object_part_box_append(o_area,buf,o_text);

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 Regards.




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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7

2009-06-22 Thread Toma
2009/6/23 Viktor Kojouharov vkojouha...@gmail.com:
 On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 09:23 -0600, Dan Kronstal wrote:
 Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has looked
 like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg since the new
 design.

 Cheers

 Dan

 no one cares. e users will not be using IE anytime soon. and its just
 not worth the designer's time to fix these issues



I tried showing some buddies at work what E was and I was greeted by
the garbled page with IE7. Also, If I try to show any other mates that
have Windows what E is, again they very well could be using IE7. Like
it or not, its still the most used browser in the world.

-Toma.

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Re: [E-devel] enlightenment.org in IE7

2009-06-22 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Tomatomha...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/6/23 Viktor Kojouharov vkojouha...@gmail.com:
 On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 09:23 -0600, Dan Kronstal wrote:
 Hey folks. Not sure if anyone knows or cares, but in IE7 e.org has looked
 like this: http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8599/e17inie.jpg since the new
 design.

 Cheers

 Dan

 no one cares. e users will not be using IE anytime soon. and its just
 not worth the designer's time to fix these issues



 I tried showing some buddies at work what E was and I was greeted by
 the garbled page with IE7. Also, If I try to show any other mates that
 have Windows what E is, again they very well could be using IE7. Like
 it or not, its still the most used browser in the world.

Another problem is when you try to have clients to use EFL, they ask
what is it and you point to the website = FAILURE. Most managers,
specially in embedded systems, use Windows in their day to day work
and I don't know why they keep using IE7 instead of Firefox... but
they do and since they often do the decisions they'll have bad
impression, that you need to remove later. (ok, many wrong things on
their part, but that's life...)

Last but not least, I think that following standards is required.
Coding to a specific browser, even if it's Firefox, is as bad as
coding for IE.

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