Re: [E-devel] [e-users] EFL Dev Day and Barcelona

2012-11-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 12:42:33 +0100 Leif Middelschulte
leif.middelschu...@gmail.com said:

 2012/11/2 Cedric BAIL cedric.b...@free.fr:
  On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:09 AM, Leandro Pereira lean...@profusion.mobi
  wrote:
  On 11/01/2012 03:34 PM, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
  what if we start a new bling bling theme and ship as default?
 
  The default one should have a large title bar, with some remote island,
  a boat passing by and perhaps some seagulls as well. BW is too
  distracting.
 
  No unicorns ? That's so sad !
 No unicorns, but I'll arrive at 22:30hrs at the airport :)

ooh so you're here now eh? :)

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Re: [E-devel] [e-users] EFL Dev Day and Barcelona

2012-11-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 19:59:59 +0100 Thanatermesis thanatermesis.e...@gmail.com
said:

fira palace hotel, in the downstairs dungeon. :)

 Can somebody say there where is that event ? the IRC doesn't seems to know,
 at least right now... a notice there could be nice
 
 
 2012/11/4 Leif Middelschulte leif.middelschu...@gmail.com
 
  2012/11/2 Cedric BAIL cedric.b...@free.fr:
   On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:09 AM, Leandro Pereira lean...@profusion.mobi
  wrote:
   On 11/01/2012 03:34 PM, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
   what if we start a new bling bling theme and ship as default?
  
   The default one should have a large title bar, with some remote island,
   a boat passing by and perhaps some seagulls as well. BW is too
  distracting.
  
   No unicorns ? That's so sad !
  No unicorns, but I'll arrive at 22:30hrs at the airport :)
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Re: [E-devel] [e-users] EFL Dev Day and Barcelona

2012-11-04 Thread Leif Middelschulte
2012/11/2 Cedric BAIL cedric.b...@free.fr:
 On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:09 AM, Leandro Pereira lean...@profusion.mobi 
 wrote:
 On 11/01/2012 03:34 PM, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
 what if we start a new bling bling theme and ship as default?

 The default one should have a large title bar, with some remote island,
 a boat passing by and perhaps some seagulls as well. BW is too distracting.

 No unicorns ? That's so sad !
No unicorns, but I'll arrive at 22:30hrs at the airport :)
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Re: [E-devel] [e-users] EFL Dev Day and Barcelona

2012-11-04 Thread Thanatermesis
Can somebody say there where is that event ? the IRC doesn't seems to know,
at least right now... a notice there could be nice


2012/11/4 Leif Middelschulte leif.middelschu...@gmail.com

 2012/11/2 Cedric BAIL cedric.b...@free.fr:
  On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:09 AM, Leandro Pereira lean...@profusion.mobi
 wrote:
  On 11/01/2012 03:34 PM, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
  what if we start a new bling bling theme and ship as default?
 
  The default one should have a large title bar, with some remote island,
  a boat passing by and perhaps some seagulls as well. BW is too
 distracting.
 
  No unicorns ? That's so sad !
 No unicorns, but I'll arrive at 22:30hrs at the airport :)
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Re: [E-devel] [e-users] EFL Dev Day and Barcelona

2012-11-01 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:35:11 -0300 Wido wido...@gmail.com said:

because it is a major issue visually shipping with bw.

 Sorry to be a jerk here but, why choose a default theme for the final
 release, that not everybody has seen, is not finished and is not tested as
 bw already is?
 
 I do love dark themes, don't get me wrong. But instead of hard working in a
 new theme, why not spend the time in something more useful for final
 release? Dark theme can come after, but I think you could try doing more
 critical stuff.
 
 Cheers!
 El 01/11/2012 07:23, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi
 escribió:
 
  Don't forget about the everything launcher
 
  On Thursday, November 1, 2012, Cedric BAIL wrote:
 
   Hello everyone,
  
   We are getting close to this first EFL Dev Day (don't forget to register
   !). Many developer will be in Barcelona during the weekend. So for those
  of
   you that are around and want to do some hack, have fun breaking svn
  badly,
   we do propose to meet at Fira Palace for Sunday afternoon and do a small
   hackathon (For the exact place, just join irc #edevelop and ask, or ask
   Linux Foundation desk, they will know where we are).
  
   The goal of this hackathon will be to make dark the default theme of E17
   (for those that didn't follow recent activity in svn, look in
   svn/trunk/THEME/dark ). There is a small todo list to kill. You can pick
  an
   item, do it and send a patch as soon as you want. We will squiz the rest
   during Sunday. Here is the list :
  
   - e/widgets/winlist/item * same as menu item selection and non-selected
   - e/widgets/winlist/main * same grey bg,bevel, shine, title as menu bg,
   separator from dialog and swalllows for icon and list
   - e/sys/halt * same grey bg, bevel and shine from dialog etc. with busy
   icon from fileman overlay and same bold white text + shadow as in fileman
   overlay
   - e/sys/hibernate * same grey bg, bevel and shine from dialog etc. with
   busy icon from fileman overlay and same bold white text + shadow as in
   fileman overlay
   - e/sys/logout * same grey bg, bevel and shine from dialog etc. with
  busy
   icon from fileman overlay and same bold white text + shadow as in fileman
   overlay
   - e/sys/reboot * same grey bg, bevel and shine from dialog etc. with
  busy
   icon from fileman overlay and same bold white text + shadow as in fileman
   overlay
   - e/sys/suspend * same grey bg, bevel and shine from dialog etc. with
  busy
   icon from fileman overlay and same bold white text + shadow as in fileman
   overlay
   - e/modules/ibar/icon * same as default, format cleanup
   - e/modules/ibar/icon_overlay * same as default, format cleanup
   - e/modules/ibox/icon * same as default, format cleanup
   - e/modules/ibox/icon_overlay * same as default, format cleanup
   - e/transitions/crossfade * same as default, format cleanup
   - e/transitions/vswipe * same as default, format cleanup
   - e/transpreview/0 * same as default, format cleanup
   - e/transpreview/1 * same as default, format cleanup
   - e/widgets/border/default/move * same dialog (bg, bevel, shine), with
   same text as in labels (white + 1 pixel shadow + placeholder icon (to be
   drawn)
   - e/widgets/border/default/resize * same dialog (bg, bevel, shine), with
   same text as in labels (white + 1 pixel shadow + placeholder icon (to be
   drawn)
   - e/widgets/cslider * same dragable setup as default but inset/shadow
  from
   preview
   - e/widgets/fontpreview * same as default, just with white color ???
  maybe
   shadow style too
   - e/widgets/spectrum * same dargable cfg form default but inset + shadow
   liek preview
   - e/modules/illume_home_toggle/main * same as button just with only icon
   inside
   - e/modules/illume_kbd_toggle/main * same as button just with only icon
   inside
   - e/modules/illume_mode_toggle/main * same as button just with only icon
   inside
  
   See you there,
  
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Re: [E-devel] [e-users] EFL Dev Day and Barcelona

2012-11-01 Thread Michael Blumenkrantz
I'm doing all the more useful and critical stuff, so having someone
other than me work on a theme is called using resources effectively
rather than misusing those resources.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote:

 On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:35:11 -0300 Wido wido...@gmail.com said:

 because it is a major issue visually shipping with bw.

  Sorry to be a jerk here but, why choose a default theme for the final
  release, that not everybody has seen, is not finished and is not tested
 as
  bw already is?
 
  I do love dark themes, don't get me wrong. But instead of hard working
 in a
  new theme, why not spend the time in something more useful for final
  release? Dark theme can come after, but I think you could try doing more
  critical stuff.
 
  Cheers!
  El 01/11/2012 07:23, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi
 
  escribió:
 
   Don't forget about the everything launcher
  
   On Thursday, November 1, 2012, Cedric BAIL wrote:
  
Hello everyone,
   
We are getting close to this first EFL Dev Day (don't forget to
 register
!). Many developer will be in Barcelona during the weekend. So for
 those
   of
you that are around and want to do some hack, have fun breaking svn
   badly,
we do propose to meet at Fira Palace for Sunday afternoon and do a
 small
hackathon (For the exact place, just join irc #edevelop and ask, or
 ask
Linux Foundation desk, they will know where we are).
   
The goal of this hackathon will be to make dark the default theme of
 E17
(for those that didn't follow recent activity in svn, look in
svn/trunk/THEME/dark ). There is a small todo list to kill. You can
 pick
   an
item, do it and send a patch as soon as you want. We will squiz the
 rest
during Sunday. Here is the list :
   
- e/widgets/winlist/item * same as menu item selection and
 non-selected
- e/widgets/winlist/main * same grey bg,bevel, shine, title as menu
 bg,
separator from dialog and swalllows for icon and list
- e/sys/halt * same grey bg, bevel and shine from dialog etc. with
 busy
icon from fileman overlay and same bold white text + shadow as in
 fileman
overlay
- e/sys/hibernate * same grey bg, bevel and shine from dialog etc.
 with
busy icon from fileman overlay and same bold white text + shadow as
 in
fileman overlay
- e/sys/logout * same grey bg, bevel and shine from dialog etc. with
   busy
icon from fileman overlay and same bold white text + shadow as in
 fileman
overlay
- e/sys/reboot * same grey bg, bevel and shine from dialog etc. with
   busy
icon from fileman overlay and same bold white text + shadow as in
 fileman
overlay
- e/sys/suspend * same grey bg, bevel and shine from dialog etc.
 with
   busy
icon from fileman overlay and same bold white text + shadow as in
 fileman
overlay
- e/modules/ibar/icon * same as default, format cleanup
- e/modules/ibar/icon_overlay * same as default, format cleanup
- e/modules/ibox/icon * same as default, format cleanup
- e/modules/ibox/icon_overlay * same as default, format cleanup
- e/transitions/crossfade * same as default, format cleanup
- e/transitions/vswipe * same as default, format cleanup
- e/transpreview/0 * same as default, format cleanup
- e/transpreview/1 * same as default, format cleanup
- e/widgets/border/default/move * same dialog (bg, bevel, shine),
 with
same text as in labels (white + 1 pixel shadow + placeholder icon
 (to be
drawn)
- e/widgets/border/default/resize * same dialog (bg, bevel, shine),
 with
same text as in labels (white + 1 pixel shadow + placeholder icon
 (to be
drawn)
- e/widgets/cslider * same dragable setup as default but
 inset/shadow
   from
preview
- e/widgets/fontpreview * same as default, just with white color ???
   maybe
shadow style too
- e/widgets/spectrum * same dargable cfg form default but inset +
 shadow
liek preview
- e/modules/illume_home_toggle/main * same as button just with only
 icon
inside
- e/modules/illume_kbd_toggle/main * same as button just with only
 icon
inside
- e/modules/illume_mode_toggle/main * same as button just with only
 icon
inside
   
See you there,
   
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Re: [E-devel] [e-users] EFL Dev Day and Barcelona

2012-11-01 Thread Michael Blumenkrantz
Short answer: BW is not flashy enough.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Wido wido...@gmail.com wrote:

 Michael, I'm just a user, so don't really know your workflow :-)

 I'm curious, why bw is an issue? Bling bling was, I never liked it, but
 bw is nice and neat and fast, what's the problem with it?
 El 01/11/2012 09:17, Michael Blumenkrantz 
 michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com escribió:

 I'm doing all the more useful and critical stuff, so having someone
 other than me work on a theme is called using resources effectively
 rather than misusing those resources.

  On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Carsten Haitzler 
 ras...@rasterman.comwrote:

 On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:35:11 -0300 Wido wido...@gmail.com said:

 because it is a major issue visually shipping with bw.

  Sorry to be a jerk here but, why choose a default theme for the final
  release, that not everybody has seen, is not finished and is not
 tested as
  bw already is?
 
  I do love dark themes, don't get me wrong. But instead of hard working
 in a
  new theme, why not spend the time in something more useful for final
  release? Dark theme can come after, but I think you could try doing
 more
  critical stuff.
 
  Cheers!
  El 01/11/2012 07:23, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri 
 barbi...@profusion.mobi
  escribió:
 
   Don't forget about the everything launcher
  
   On Thursday, November 1, 2012, Cedric BAIL wrote:
  
Hello everyone,
   
We are getting close to this first EFL Dev Day (don't forget to
 register
!). Many developer will be in Barcelona during the weekend. So for
 those
   of
you that are around and want to do some hack, have fun breaking svn
   badly,
we do propose to meet at Fira Palace for Sunday afternoon and do a
 small
hackathon (For the exact place, just join irc #edevelop and ask,
 or ask
Linux Foundation desk, they will know where we are).
   
The goal of this hackathon will be to make dark the default theme
 of E17
(for those that didn't follow recent activity in svn, look in
svn/trunk/THEME/dark ). There is a small todo list to kill. You
 can pick
   an
item, do it and send a patch as soon as you want. We will squiz
 the rest
during Sunday. Here is the list :
   
- e/widgets/winlist/item * same as menu item selection and
 non-selected
- e/widgets/winlist/main * same grey bg,bevel, shine, title as
 menu bg,
separator from dialog and swalllows for icon and list
- e/sys/halt * same grey bg, bevel and shine from dialog etc.
 with busy
icon from fileman overlay and same bold white text + shadow as in
 fileman
overlay
- e/sys/hibernate * same grey bg, bevel and shine from dialog
 etc. with
busy icon from fileman overlay and same bold white text + shadow
 as in
fileman overlay
- e/sys/logout * same grey bg, bevel and shine from dialog etc.
 with
   busy
icon from fileman overlay and same bold white text + shadow as in
 fileman
overlay
- e/sys/reboot * same grey bg, bevel and shine from dialog etc.
 with
   busy
icon from fileman overlay and same bold white text + shadow as in
 fileman
overlay
- e/sys/suspend * same grey bg, bevel and shine from dialog etc.
 with
   busy
icon from fileman overlay and same bold white text + shadow as in
 fileman
overlay
- e/modules/ibar/icon * same as default, format cleanup
- e/modules/ibar/icon_overlay * same as default, format cleanup
- e/modules/ibox/icon * same as default, format cleanup
- e/modules/ibox/icon_overlay * same as default, format cleanup
- e/transitions/crossfade * same as default, format cleanup
- e/transitions/vswipe * same as default, format cleanup
- e/transpreview/0 * same as default, format cleanup
- e/transpreview/1 * same as default, format cleanup
- e/widgets/border/default/move * same dialog (bg, bevel, shine),
 with
same text as in labels (white + 1 pixel shadow + placeholder icon
 (to be
drawn)
- e/widgets/border/default/resize * same dialog (bg, bevel,
 shine), with
same text as in labels (white + 1 pixel shadow + placeholder icon
 (to be
drawn)
- e/widgets/cslider * same dragable setup as default but
 inset/shadow
   from
preview
- e/widgets/fontpreview * same as default, just with white color
 ???
   maybe
shadow style too
- e/widgets/spectrum * same dargable cfg form default but inset +
 shadow
liek preview
- e/modules/illume_home_toggle/main * same as button just with
 only icon
inside
- e/modules/illume_kbd_toggle/main * same as button just with
 only icon
inside
- e/modules/illume_mode_toggle/main * same as button just with
 only icon
inside
   
See you there,
   
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Re: [E-devel] [e-users] EFL Dev Day and Barcelona

2012-11-01 Thread Daniel Juyung Seo
+1 here.
I do love a new dark theme. Changing the default theme right before the
release doesn't sound good.
If we were supposed to change the default theme, we should have done this
long ago.

We can ship both themes instead(still bw as a default theme as it is)

Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)


On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Wido wido...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sorry to be a jerk here but, why choose a default theme for the final
 release, that not everybody has seen, is not finished and is not tested as
 bw already is?

 I do love dark themes, don't get me wrong. But instead of hard working in a
 new theme, why not spend the time in something more useful for final
 release? Dark theme can come after, but I think you could try doing more
 critical stuff.

 Cheers!
 El 01/11/2012 07:23, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri barbi...@profusion.mobi
 escribió:

  Don't forget about the everything launcher
 
  On Thursday, November 1, 2012, Cedric BAIL wrote:
 
   Hello everyone,
  
   We are getting close to this first EFL Dev Day (don't forget to
 register
   !). Many developer will be in Barcelona during the weekend. So for
 those
  of
   you that are around and want to do some hack, have fun breaking svn
  badly,
   we do propose to meet at Fira Palace for Sunday afternoon and do a
 small
   hackathon (For the exact place, just join irc #edevelop and ask, or ask
   Linux Foundation desk, they will know where we are).
  
   The goal of this hackathon will be to make dark the default theme of
 E17
   (for those that didn't follow recent activity in svn, look in
   svn/trunk/THEME/dark ). There is a small todo list to kill. You can
 pick
  an
   item, do it and send a patch as soon as you want. We will squiz the
 rest
   during Sunday. Here is the list :
  
   - e/widgets/winlist/item * same as menu item selection and
 non-selected
   - e/widgets/winlist/main * same grey bg,bevel, shine, title as menu
 bg,
   separator from dialog and swalllows for icon and list
   - e/sys/halt * same grey bg, bevel and shine from dialog etc. with
 busy
   icon from fileman overlay and same bold white text + shadow as in
 fileman
   overlay
   - e/sys/hibernate * same grey bg, bevel and shine from dialog etc.
 with
   busy icon from fileman overlay and same bold white text + shadow as in
   fileman overlay
   - e/sys/logout * same grey bg, bevel and shine from dialog etc. with
  busy
   icon from fileman overlay and same bold white text + shadow as in
 fileman
   overlay
   - e/sys/reboot * same grey bg, bevel and shine from dialog etc. with
  busy
   icon from fileman overlay and same bold white text + shadow as in
 fileman
   overlay
   - e/sys/suspend * same grey bg, bevel and shine from dialog etc. with
  busy
   icon from fileman overlay and same bold white text + shadow as in
 fileman
   overlay
   - e/modules/ibar/icon * same as default, format cleanup
   - e/modules/ibar/icon_overlay * same as default, format cleanup
   - e/modules/ibox/icon * same as default, format cleanup
   - e/modules/ibox/icon_overlay * same as default, format cleanup
   - e/transitions/crossfade * same as default, format cleanup
   - e/transitions/vswipe * same as default, format cleanup
   - e/transpreview/0 * same as default, format cleanup
   - e/transpreview/1 * same as default, format cleanup
   - e/widgets/border/default/move * same dialog (bg, bevel, shine), with
   same text as in labels (white + 1 pixel shadow + placeholder icon (to
 be
   drawn)
   - e/widgets/border/default/resize * same dialog (bg, bevel, shine),
 with
   same text as in labels (white + 1 pixel shadow + placeholder icon (to
 be
   drawn)
   - e/widgets/cslider * same dragable setup as default but inset/shadow
  from
   preview
   - e/widgets/fontpreview * same as default, just with white color ???
  maybe
   shadow style too
   - e/widgets/spectrum * same dargable cfg form default but inset +
 shadow
   liek preview
   - e/modules/illume_home_toggle/main * same as button just with only
 icon
   inside
   - e/modules/illume_kbd_toggle/main * same as button just with only
 icon
   inside
   - e/modules/illume_mode_toggle/main * same as button just with only
 icon
   inside
  
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Re: [E-devel] [e-users] EFL Dev Day and Barcelona

2012-11-01 Thread Lucas De Marchi
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Daniel Juyung Seo seojuyu...@gmail.com wrote:
 +1 here.
 I do love a new dark theme. Changing the default theme right before the
 release doesn't sound good.
 If we were supposed to change the default theme, we should have done this
 long ago.

 We can ship both themes instead(still bw as a default theme as it is)


what if we start a new bling bling theme and ship as default?

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Re: [E-devel] [e-users] EFL Dev Day and Barcelona

2012-11-01 Thread Leandro Pereira
On 11/01/2012 03:34 PM, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
 what if we start a new bling bling theme and ship as default?

The default one should have a large title bar, with some remote island, 
a boat passing by and perhaps some seagulls as well. BW is too distracting.

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Re: [E-devel] [e-users] EFL Dev Day and Barcelona

2012-11-01 Thread Cedric BAIL
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:09 AM, Leandro Pereira lean...@profusion.mobi wrote:
 On 11/01/2012 03:34 PM, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
 what if we start a new bling bling theme and ship as default?

 The default one should have a large title bar, with some remote island,
 a boat passing by and perhaps some seagulls as well. BW is too distracting.

No unicorns ? That's so sad !
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