Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/imlib2 kwo

2006-09-07 Thread Michael Jennings
On Thursday, 07 September 2006, at 17:05:36 (-0400),
Enlightenment CVS wrote:

 Remove XFree86-devel requirement causing trouble when using xorg.
 
 -#BuildSuggests: xorg-x11-devel freetype-devel freetype2-devel libungif-devel
 -BuildRequires: /usr/bin/freetype-config XFree86-devel /usr/include/gif_lib.h
 +#BuildSuggests: XFree86-devel xorg-x11-devel freetype-devel freetype2-devel 
 libungif-devel
 +BuildRequires: /usr/bin/freetype-config /usr/include/gif_lib.h

Can you elaborate, kwo?  xorg packages are supposed to provide the
XFree86 equivalents (e.g., xorg-x11-devel Provides: XFree86-devel).
Did that break somewhere?

Michael

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Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/imlib2 kwo

2006-09-07 Thread Kim Woelders
Michael Jennings wrote:
 On Thursday, 07 September 2006, at 17:05:36 (-0400),
 Enlightenment CVS wrote:
 
 
Remove XFree86-devel requirement causing trouble when using xorg.

-#BuildSuggests: xorg-x11-devel freetype-devel freetype2-devel libungif-devel
-BuildRequires: /usr/bin/freetype-config XFree86-devel /usr/include/gif_lib.h
+#BuildSuggests: XFree86-devel xorg-x11-devel freetype-devel freetype2-devel 
libungif-devel
+BuildRequires: /usr/bin/freetype-config /usr/include/gif_lib.h
 
 
 Can you elaborate, kwo?  xorg packages are supposed to provide the
 XFree86 equivalents (e.g., xorg-x11-devel Provides: XFree86-devel).
 Did that break somewhere?
 
On FC6 - (xorg 7.1, I think) there is no xorg-x11-devel, and I don't 
think anything provides XFree86-devel.

/Kim


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Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/imlib2 kwo

2006-09-07 Thread Michael Jennings
On Friday, 08 September 2006, at 00:02:56 (+0200),
Kim Woelders wrote:

 On FC6 - (xorg 7.1, I think) there is no xorg-x11-devel, and I don't
 think anything provides XFree86-devel.

Reason #5,781 why Fedora is compost.

So what package contains the X headers?

Michael

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Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/imlib2 kwo

2006-09-07 Thread Kim Woelders
Michael Jennings wrote:
 On Friday, 08 September 2006, at 00:02:56 (+0200),
 Kim Woelders wrote:
 
 
On FC6 - (xorg 7.1, I think) there is no xorg-x11-devel, and I don't
think anything provides XFree86-devel.
 
 
 Reason #5,781 why Fedora is compost.
 
 So what package contains the X headers?
 
Hehehe - You'll love it:

libX11-devel-1.0.3-2.fc6
libXScrnSaver-devel-1.1.0-3.1
libXTrap-devel-1.0.0-3.1
libXau-devel-1.0.1-3.1
libXaw-devel-1.0.2-8.1
libXcomposite-devel-0.3-5.1
libXcursor-devel-1.1.7-1.1
libXdamage-devel-1.0.3-2.1
libXdmcp-devel-1.0.1-2.1
libXevie-devel-1.0.1-3.1
libXext-devel-1.0.1-2.1
libXfixes-devel-4.0.1-2.1
libXfont-devel-1.2.0-2.fc6
libXfontcache-devel-1.0.2-3.1
libXft-devel-2.1.10-1.1
libXi-devel-1.0.1-3.1
libXinerama-devel-1.0.1-2.1
libXmu-devel-1.0.2-4.1
libXp-devel-1.0.0-6
libXpm-devel-3.5.5-3
libXrandr-devel-1.1.1-3.1
libXrender-devel-0.9.1-3.1
libXres-devel-1.0.1-3.1
libXt-devel-1.0.2-3.1.fc6
libXtst-devel-1.0.1-3.1
libXv-devel-1.0.1-4.1
libXvMC-devel-1.0.2-2.1
libXxf86dga-devel-1.0.1-3.1
libXxf86misc-devel-1.0.1-3.1
libXxf86vm-devel-1.0.1-3.1

and I doubt thats all of them :)
/Kim

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Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/imlib2 kwo

2006-09-07 Thread Michael Jennings
On Friday, 08 September 2006, at 00:13:17 (+0200),
Kim Woelders wrote:

 Hehehe - You'll love it:
 
 libX11-devel-1.0.3-2.fc6
 libXScrnSaver-devel-1.1.0-3.1
 libXTrap-devel-1.0.0-3.1
 libXau-devel-1.0.1-3.1
 libXaw-devel-1.0.2-8.1
 libXcomposite-devel-0.3-5.1
 libXcursor-devel-1.1.7-1.1
 libXdamage-devel-1.0.3-2.1
 libXdmcp-devel-1.0.1-2.1
 libXevie-devel-1.0.1-3.1
 libXext-devel-1.0.1-2.1
 ...

Shoot me.  Shoot me now.

Michael

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Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/imlib2 kwo

2006-09-07 Thread Blake Barnett

On Sep 7, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Michael Jennings wrote:

 On Friday, 08 September 2006, at 00:13:17 (+0200),
 Kim Woelders wrote:

 Hehehe - You'll love it:

 libX11-devel-1.0.3-2.fc6
 libXScrnSaver-devel-1.1.0-3.1
 libXTrap-devel-1.0.0-3.1
 libXau-devel-1.0.1-3.1
 libXaw-devel-1.0.2-8.1
 libXcomposite-devel-0.3-5.1
 libXcursor-devel-1.1.7-1.1
 libXdamage-devel-1.0.3-2.1
 libXdmcp-devel-1.0.1-2.1
 libXevie-devel-1.0.1-3.1
 libXext-devel-1.0.1-2.1
 ...

 Shoot me.  Shoot me now.

Let's see if I can work teh mej into a froth.

The break up of Xorg is a really good thing.  People can work on  
smaller parts of the code-base without worrying about the whole.   
Changes can (and apparently have been) happen faster.  Yes... it's a  
packagers nightmare, but in a lot ways it's a huge step forward.   
It's the same on Debian.  I do think a meta package xorg-devel or  
something similar in this case, that would depend on all those  
spaghetti packages would definitely be a good idea.

-Blake

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Re: [E-devel] E CVS: libs/imlib2 kwo

2006-09-07 Thread Michael Jennings
On Thursday, 07 September 2006, at 16:16:06 (-0700),
Blake Barnett wrote:

 Let's see if I can work teh mej into a froth.

Death to Debianistas!  Long live Open Source!

 The break up of Xorg is a really good thing.  People can work on
 smaller parts of the code-base without worrying about the whole.
 Changes can (and apparently have been) happen faster.

Faster changes is not necessarily a good thing when you're talking
about a critical system component like X.

 Yes... it's a packagers nightmare, but in a lot ways it's a huge
 step forward.

I'm not going to say it is or isn't, but I do have my concerns.
Stability is of great importance.

 It's the same on Debian.

Well now I just feel all warm and fuzzy inside!  ;-P

 I do think a meta package xorg-devel or something similar in this
 case, that would depend on all those spaghetti packages would
 definitely be a good idea.

It's called backward compatibility, and it's something Fedora
understands about as much as apolitical.

Something, somewhere, somehow should be providing XFree86-devel and
xorg-x11-devel while requiring all those -devel packages.

Hopefully RHEL customers will demand that this be fixed.  Of course,
since you can't upgrade from RHEL3 to RHEL4 using their own tools, I'm
not holding my breath.

Michael

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