Re: [E-devel] Super_L keybinding
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 00:11:07 -0400 dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:18:08 -0400 dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: well - for the same reason it doesn't let you bind alt or shift or control - super and meta are modifier keys in x - they have special significance. sure - you can technically bind them and it happens to work (alt and shift too) but x's configuration is such that these keys AFFECT modifiers (like control, alt, shift etc.) and have special use. it' is a rare case that you want to bind a modifier itself (as this instantly removes its ability to be used as a modifier basically) True, it's rare, but it would be nice if we could support it. I noticed after sending that patch that you can no longer use the win key as a modifier. It would be nice to have both worlds, were it can be used as a modifier or used as just a binding, but I don't know if that;s doable. it isn't actually doable. that's the problem. that's why you can't bind it. you CAN remap your keyboard so it is no longer a modifer but some other normal key and then you get what you want - but for most people - this will be rare. You can bind it. I've bound it already. I've used the Super_L binding to launch Eterm since e17 had bindings (and I used it in e16 as well). You just couldn't do it through the UI. It always worked through enlightenment_remote (at least last time I tried it). I've never done any keymaping, so unless Gentoo does it by default, it does work. it works thru e_remote more as a byproduct - but now u cant really use the key as a modifier - as everytime u want to press it + another key - eterm runs :) the reason the ui doesn't let you is.. it is EXPECTING u to press a real key in addition to a modifer - if it gets a modifer key press. dan -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] Super_L keybinding
Hello,
I was wondering if there is a reason why, when using the keybinding
configuration dialog, you can't bind to just the Super_L or Super_R keys
anymore. I can do it through enlightenment_remote but the config panel
dosen't accept it. (I typically bind Super_L to exec eterm.)
The attached patch will remove this limitation, but as I don't know that
code I don't want to just apply it. Any reasons why this shouldn't go
in? Or why it's currently setup this way?
Thanks,
dan
Index: src/bin/e_int_config_keybindings.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/e/e17/apps/e/src/bin/e_int_config_keybindings.c,v
retrieving revision 1.17
diff -u -r1.17 e_int_config_keybindings.c
--- src/bin/e_int_config_keybindings.c 1 Apr 2006 09:24:56 - 1.17
+++ src/bin/e_int_config_keybindings.c 10 Apr 2006 18:46:04 -
@@ -1501,8 +1501,7 @@
if (!strcmp(ev-keysymbol, Control_L) || !strcmp(ev-keysymbol, Control_R) ||
!strcmp(ev-keysymbol, Shift_L) || !strcmp(ev-keysymbol, Shift_R) ||
- !strcmp(ev-keysymbol, Alt_L) || !strcmp(ev-keysymbol, Alt_R) ||
- !strcmp(ev-keysymbol, Super_L) || !strcmp(ev-keysymbol, Super_R))
+ !strcmp(ev-keysymbol, Alt_L) || !strcmp(ev-keysymbol, Alt_R))
;
else
{
Re: [E-devel] Super_L keybinding
Hi Dan, The reason why it is setuped in such a way is, because, I have standard keyboard, without any special keys, and, I wrote and tested this code with it. I first time here about Super_L key. It seams that your patch is correct. Moreover, some people were complaining that there is no possibility to assigne sun keybord keys. Since I do not know all this special key I implemented just common one. If somebody could point me to the list of all this keys, of course, I would add them to config dialog. BTW, this is still hardcoded way of defining them. Probably there should be a better way of checking keybord modifiers. a. On 4/10/06, dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I was wondering if there is a reason why, when using the keybinding configuration dialog, you can't bind to just the Super_L or Super_R keys anymore. I can do it through enlightenment_remote but the config panel dosen't accept it. (I typically bind Super_L to exec eterm.) The attached patch will remove this limitation, but as I don't know that code I don't want to just apply it. Any reasons why this shouldn't go in? Or why it's currently setup this way? Thanks, dan -- Aleksej Struk Master Degree Student Free University of Bozen-Bolzano Faculty of Computer Science phone: +39-0471-061749 cell phone: +39-3204627049 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Super_L keybinding
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:51:08 -0400 dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hello, I was wondering if there is a reason why, when using the keybinding configuration dialog, you can't bind to just the Super_L or Super_R keys anymore. I can do it through enlightenment_remote but the config panel dosen't accept it. (I typically bind Super_L to exec eterm.) well - for the same reason it doesn't let you bind alt or shift or control - super and meta are modifier keys in x - they have special significance. sure - you can technically bind them and it happens to work (alt and shift too) but x's configuration is such that these keys AFFECT modifiers (like control, alt, shift etc.) and have special use. it' is a rare case that you want to bind a modifier itself (as this instantly removes its ability to be used as a modifier basically) BUT - that code there does need fixing. it ASSUMES certain keys map to the virtual modifiers that ecore_x maps things to (it tries to standardise things to use ctrl, shift, alt and win - some keyboards don't have alt - like apple, so it looks for other modifiers). in ecore_x.c line 329 (approximately) - ecore_x does its mappings and discovery. we need to add an inverse lookup to get valid keynames (maybe more than one) for modifiers and locks. (ie request a list or array of strings that are the names of keys that would produce that modifier). that would be the correct way to do this. :) The attached patch will remove this limitation, but as I don't know that code I don't want to just apply it. Any reasons why this shouldn't go in? Or why it's currently setup this way? Thanks, dan -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Super_L keybinding
On 4/10/06, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BUT - that code there does need fixing. it ASSUMES certain keys map to the virtual modifiers that ecore_x maps things to (it tries to standardise things to use ctrl, shift, alt and win - some keyboards don't have alt - like apple, so it looks for other modifiers). There is an Alt key on Apple keyboards, sometimes it's only labeled Option, but it's usually Alt/Option. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Super_L keybinding
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:18:08 -0400 dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: well - for the same reason it doesn't let you bind alt or shift or control - super and meta are modifier keys in x - they have special significance. sure - you can technically bind them and it happens to work (alt and shift too) but x's configuration is such that these keys AFFECT modifiers (like control, alt, shift etc.) and have special use. it' is a rare case that you want to bind a modifier itself (as this instantly removes its ability to be used as a modifier basically) True, it's rare, but it would be nice if we could support it. I noticed after sending that patch that you can no longer use the win key as a modifier. It would be nice to have both worlds, were it can be used as a modifier or used as just a binding, but I don't know if that;s doable. it isn't actually doable. that's the problem. that's why you can't bind it. you CAN remap your keyboard so it is no longer a modifer but some other normal key and then you get what you want - but for most people - this will be rare. You can bind it. I've bound it already. I've used the Super_L binding to launch Eterm since e17 had bindings (and I used it in e16 as well). You just couldn't do it through the UI. It always worked through enlightenment_remote (at least last time I tried it). I've never done any keymaping, so unless Gentoo does it by default, it does work. dan --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
