Re: [E-devel] Things you consider broken or old in current repository

2008-08-18 Thread Viktor Kojouharov
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
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 Hi people,

 As now we're using SVN and it's easy to move things around I suggest
 we moving things out of the main project if they're broken for some
 time. Some projects like KDE, for example, move things into their
 experimental/playground (our proto) and then into main project, if
 things were in main project but are getting outdated, they are moved
 into extra-gears, etc.. it's easy and cheap to do that.

 So far I know some things are broken and could be moved to BROKEN, they are:
   - edje_viewer: usage of etk_canvas is broken, I can hackish patch
 it to work, but IMHO it's ugly. And edje_editor is far superior now.
   - express
   - most of MISC/

Since I don't have time to maintain edje_viewer (work + university + new
country), I'd appreciate it if someone (codewarrior) would fix it for
the etk_canvas change. I'd rather keep it (biased++), since it's just a
viewer, and it used to do that job just fine :)



 These probably could be moved into OLD:
   - eclair
   - e_utils
   - epeg (evas does that)
   - eterm (i know it is maintained, but does not use any of current
 efl, much like e16)
   - imlib2* (now epsilon uses evas, this can be moved)
   - examine

 BTW, we could move these to main:
   - edje_editor

 Unknown to me:
   - emprint
   - emphasis
   - elicit
   - empower
   - enhance
   - enity
   - enscribe
   - etk_extra
   - evfs
   - evolve

 what do you think?


I'm not sure, but I think elicit is currently broken (the screen
recording thing doesn't seem to work). It is also unmaintained right now
(the author stated that a few months ago on the ml). But it is a great
tool, and if it had a ruler, it'd be a designer's best friend :)

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Re: [E-devel] Things you consider broken or old in current repository

2008-08-18 Thread Nicolas Aguirre
2008/8/17 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi people,

 As now we're using SVN and it's easy to move things around I suggest
 we moving things out of the main project if they're broken for some
 time. Some projects like KDE, for example, move things into their
 experimental/playground (our proto) and then into main project, if
 things were in main project but are getting outdated, they are moved
 into extra-gears, etc.. it's easy and cheap to do that.

 So far I know some things are broken and could be moved to BROKEN, they
 are:
   - edje_viewer: usage of etk_canvas is broken, I can hackish patch
 it to work, but IMHO it's ugly. And edje_editor is far superior now.
   - express
   - most of MISC/



Actually enna, that is present in MISC/ should compiled fine. I use another
SVN repo in sourceforge for enna and I planned (this week) to sync this two
repository and in near future use only E SVN. It could be nice, if you are
agree, you don't put enna in OLD or BROKEN.

Thanks.

Nico
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Re: [E-devel] Things you consider broken or old in current repository

2008-08-18 Thread Michael Jennings
On Monday, 18 August 2008, at 08:40:01 (+0200),
Nicolas Aguirre wrote:

 Actually enna, that is present in MISC/ should compiled fine. I use
 another SVN repo in sourceforge for enna and I planned (this week)
 to sync this two repository and in near future use only E SVN. It
 could be nice, if you are agree, you don't put enna in OLD or
 BROKEN.

I was actually going to check with you about enna before anything was
done.  No worries; we'll leave it as is. :)

Michael

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Re: [E-devel] Things you consider broken or old in current repository

2008-08-17 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi people,

 As now we're using SVN and it's easy to move things around I suggest
 we moving things out of the main project if they're broken for some
 time. Some projects like KDE, for example, move things into their
 experimental/playground (our proto) and then into main project, if
 things were in main project but are getting outdated, they are moved
 into extra-gears, etc.. it's easy and cheap to do that.

 So far I know some things are broken and could be moved to BROKEN, they are:
   - edje_viewer: usage of etk_canvas is broken, I can hackish patch
 it to work, but IMHO it's ugly. And edje_editor is far superior now.
   - express
   - most of MISC/

 These probably could be moved into OLD:
   - eclair
   - e_utils
   - epeg (evas does that)
   - eterm (i know it is maintained, but does not use any of current
 efl, much like e16)
   - imlib2* (now epsilon uses evas, this can be moved)
   - examine

 BTW, we could move these to main:
   - edje_editor

 Unknown to me:
   - emprint
   - emphasis
   - elicit
   - empower
   - enhance
   - enity
   - enscribe
   - etk_extra
   - evfs
   - evolve

lok reported that emprint, emphasis and emprint are still working fine.

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Re: [E-devel] Things you consider broken or old in current repository

2008-08-17 Thread Michael Jennings
On Sunday, 17 August 2008, at 13:20:11 (-0300),
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:

- eterm (i know it is maintained, but does not use any of current
 efl, much like e16)
- imlib2* (now epsilon uses evas, this can be moved)

These should stay.  I've already discussed the Eterm situation with
raster, and he agreed.

Michael

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Re: [E-devel] Things you consider broken or old in current repository

2008-08-17 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Michael Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sunday, 17 August 2008, at 13:20:11 (-0300),
 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:

- eterm (i know it is maintained, but does not use any of current
 efl, much like e16)
- imlib2* (now epsilon uses evas, this can be moved)

 These should stay.  I've already discussed the Eterm situation with
 raster, and he agreed.

ok, so fine then, and how about the rest, is that ok?

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Re: [E-devel] Things you consider broken or old in current repository

2008-08-17 Thread Michael Jennings
On Sunday, 17 August 2008, at 17:30:06 (-0300),
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:

 ok, so fine then, and how about the rest, is that ok?

Looked okay to me, but we should probably give people some time (maybe
24 hours) to speak up just in case.  That seems like a good balance
between ample warning and putting things off so long they are
forgotten.

Thoughts?

Michael

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Re: [E-devel] Things you consider broken or old in current repository

2008-08-17 Thread Michael Jennings
On Sunday, 17 August 2008, at 13:20:11 (-0300),
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:

 So far I know some things are broken and could be moved to BROKEN, they are:
- edje_viewer: usage of etk_canvas is broken, I can hackish patch
 it to work, but IMHO it's ugly. And edje_editor is far superior now.
- express
- most of MISC/

I know a few of these which can be nuked altogether; they're
maintained elsewhere now.  I can take care of that.  I can also run
builds on that stuff and figure out what's broken and what's just
idle.

If anyone has something in MISC/ that they know won't build but that
should stay put anyway, please speak up quickly.  (HandyAndE, what's
the word on engage?)

 These probably could be moved into OLD:
- eclair
- e_utils
- epeg (evas does that)
- examine

Those look right to me.

- elicit
- empower
- enhance
- enity
- enscribe
- etk_extra
- evfs
- evolve

I think mekius was going to do some more work on empower, so that
should probably stay put.  evfs hasn't been idle for very long; I'm
not sure about the others.

Michael

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Re: [E-devel] Things you consider broken or old in current repository

2008-08-17 Thread Peter Wehrfritz
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri schrieb:
 Hi people,

 As now we're using SVN and it's easy to move things around I suggest
 we moving things out of the main project if they're broken for some
 time. Some projects like KDE, for example, move things into their
 experimental/playground (our proto) and then into main project, if
 things were in main project but are getting outdated, they are moved
 into extra-gears, etc.. it's easy and cheap to do that.

 So far I know some things are broken and could be moved to BROKEN, they are:
- edje_viewer: usage of etk_canvas is broken, I can hackish patch
 it to work, but IMHO it's ugly. And edje_editor is far superior now.
- express
- most of MISC/

 These probably could be moved into OLD:
- eclair
- e_utils
- epeg (evas does that)
- eterm (i know it is maintained, but does not use any of current
 efl, much like e16)
- imlib2* (now epsilon uses evas, this can be moved)
- examine

 BTW, we could move these to main:
- edje_editor

 Unknown to me:
- emprint
- emphasis
- elicit
   

elicit works still fine. I think it is almost feature complete.
- empower
- enhance
- enity
- enscribe
- etk_extra
- evfs
- evolve

 what do you think?

   


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Re: [E-devel] Things you consider broken or old in current repository

2008-08-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:20:11 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

i made all caps dirs to hold categories of stuff (i don't know why - bbut it
just felt good at the time). we do need to clean stuff up - remove stuff we do
not and never will maintain or use. it will stay in svn revision history if
people must dig it out, but no point keeping dead stuff in our live working
set. so this is a good time to consider deleting things too. i moved the
active or used stuff to the root - as its easier to see where activity is
in trac. e16 has its own world as such - as does eterm. keep those.

anyway - edje_viewer... i still like it, but if it isnt going to be fixed - it
should be put into BROKEN. (and yes svn is nice.. it lets us easily move things
around).

i agree with what you suggest - except eterm.

 Hi people,
 
 As now we're using SVN and it's easy to move things around I suggest
 we moving things out of the main project if they're broken for some
 time. Some projects like KDE, for example, move things into their
 experimental/playground (our proto) and then into main project, if
 things were in main project but are getting outdated, they are moved
 into extra-gears, etc.. it's easy and cheap to do that.
 
 So far I know some things are broken and could be moved to BROKEN, they are:
- edje_viewer: usage of etk_canvas is broken, I can hackish patch
 it to work, but IMHO it's ugly. And edje_editor is far superior now.
- express
- most of MISC/
 
 These probably could be moved into OLD:
- eclair
- e_utils
- epeg (evas does that)
- eterm (i know it is maintained, but does not use any of current
 efl, much like e16)
- imlib2* (now epsilon uses evas, this can be moved)
- examine
 
 BTW, we could move these to main:
- edje_editor
 
 Unknown to me:
- emprint
- emphasis
- elicit
- empower
- enhance
- enity
- enscribe
- etk_extra
- evfs
- evolve
 
 what do you think?
 
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