Re: [E-devel] discussion: new features in E. try 2.
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 20:52:44 + Aleksej Struk [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hey raster, H, actually, I already implemented all the things in e_modules/language module. Now it is standalone. It is able to manage actual input language for each window, and flip between keybord layouts on the fly. Moreover it hooks into E and defines 2 new actions and keybindings for them as it starts, and removes those actions and keybindings on unload. I want to make one more hook into E. For now there exists a config dialog for the module. I'd like to hook it into the E main config panel. As far as I remmember there is a FIXME for this :) Unfortunatelly, somehow I missed ur mail. But now, I'll review the module once again wrt to your comments. Of course, I'd like to move some of the module's functionality directly to E. For example language settings per window. Consequently, this will remove some expensive searches and management of the running windows, since the module will know everything as soon as it gets a pointer to a border in callback :). But, if I move some of its functionality to E, then it will be dependent on E. And actually, the module will only flip the input keyboard layout and visualize the current language icon. So, then it cannot be standalone as now. Ofcourse, since the module works now, at least for me :), because I did not hear any comments about it yet, there is no need to reinvent it, to reprogram it and to place some of its functionality into E. Also, from my point of view, it would be nice to have it in the main E src tree, because, when non-english people starts a WM they'd like to have language tools immideately and without looking for the 3rd party module. What do u think about this ? i agree. it is definitely useful for people who need to change languages and keymaps often and non-english speakers. the problem is goign to be making sure the code is generic enough to handle all languages properly and that it is clean. i will take a look at the language module at some point and see - either the module might get sucked in - or parts of its code will be - either way - your work becomes useful :) sndev On 6/6/06, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:18:20 + Aleksej Struk [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi all devs, I just repost my previous mail, since I did not get any comments on it yet :( and here come my comments (finally!) :) I would like to start a new discussion regarding E features. During the past time I usually use 2 different languages for input in my work. This languages are english and russian. So, in order to be able to switch between them I use setxkbmap program of the X11. I wrote a script which does language switching for me. This scrip, actually, looks as follows: #!/bin/sh f=`setxkbmap -print | grep xkb_symbols | awk '{printf $4}' | cut -d '+' -f 2` if [ $f = us ]; then setxkbmap -model compaqik13 -layout ru -variant basic elif [ $f = us(basic) ]; then setxkbmap -model compaqik13 -layout ru -variant basic elif [ $f = ru(basic) ]; then setxkbmap -model compaqik13 -layout us -variant basic fi ok - so basically u want to flip keymap on the fly and maybe have e flip keymap for you automatically as focus changes to different windows. definitely makes sense. However, it is not comfortable enought. First of all, I do not have any visual representation of my current language selection. Second, i think something in the titlebar of windows and/or in the window menu displaying some little flag for the keymap (the idea behind gadcon is to be able to add module output (gadcon clients) to things like borders, menus etc.) for example is what you want (and maybe a menu to select which keymap to use when that window is focused (if it's not the default), set up a default keymap, another temporary keymap to choose etc. might be what you want - right? there will nee to be a way to remember which windows use what keymaps (put it into the remember settings?) such a way of switching language is global. So, if I turn, for example, russian language, I will have it everywhere and in every application I currently use, but it would be nice to have some local language selection per application. Finally, I already had some troubles with non-english :) language and desktop locking. If I turn, for example, russian language and then lock the screen from the menu, or by using shortcut, for example ctrl+F12, I'm not able to unlock my desktop, since the ASCII code values of russian letters are greater that 128 and E, basically, do not accept them. Please do not refere to locale settings in this situation :) since I prefer to work in C locale or en_US. I would like to propose to implement such a language switchin mechanism in E, which is similar to the script
Re: [E-devel] discussion: new features in E. try 2.
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 01:05:27PM +0200, muzzle wrote: On 6/10/06, Aleksej Struk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey raster, H, actually, I already implemented all the things in e_modules/language module. Now it is standalone. It is able to manage actual input language for each window, and flip between keybord layouts on the fly. Moreover it hooks into E and defines 2 new actions and keybindings for them as it starts, and removes those actions and keybindings on unload. I want to make one more hook into E. For now there exists a config dialog for the module. I'd like to hook it into the E main config panel. As far as I remmember there is a FIXME for this :) Unfortunatelly, somehow I missed ur mail. But now, I'll review the module once again wrt to your comments. Of course, I'd like to move some of the module's functionality directly to E. For example language settings per window. Consequently, this will remove some expensive searches and management of the running windows, since the module will know everything as soon as it gets a pointer to a border in callback :). But, if I move some of its functionality to E, then it will be dependent on E. And actually, the module will only flip the input keyboard layout and visualize the current language icon. So, then it cannot be standalone as now. Ofcourse, since the module works now, at least for me :), because I did not hear any comments about it yet, there is no need to reinvent it, to reprogram it and to place some of its functionality into E. mhm I tried to use it (on my x86 laptop with Debian sid), but the list of available keyboard layouts in the configuration window was empty. Am I supposed to do something to make the module aware of the available layouts? Where does the module look for them? The module collects all the information about the available layouts from the following file: /usr/lib/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.xml. Actully with the modern Xorg server this file should be xorg.xml. But for the compatibility I use xfree86.xml. Maybe I have to use the following file /etc/X11/xkb/xfree86.xml ? Please check if u have this file. And please let me know. Btw, do u have XKB extenssion installed/enabled ? Also, from my point of view, it would be nice to have it in the main E src tree, because, when non-english people starts a WM they'd like to have language tools immideately and without looking for the 3rd party module. What do u think about this ? As a non-english user I think I have been waiting for something like this module for a long time and it really deserves being included in the main tree! sndev Bye, Emme [...] -- Aspetto un'emozione sempre piu' indefinibile (CCCP Fedeli alla linea) -- Aleksej Struk Master Degree Student Free University of Bozen-Bolzano Faculty of Computer Science phone: +39-0471-061749 cell phone: +39-3204627049 +370-61278908 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://astruk.googlepages.com/home ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] discussion: new features in E. try 2.
On 6/12/06, Aleksej Struk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 01:05:27PM +0200, muzzle wrote: On 6/10/06, Aleksej Struk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] mhm I tried to use it (on my x86 laptop with Debian sid), but the list of available keyboard layouts in the configuration window was empty. Am I supposed to do something to make the module aware of the available layouts? Where does the module look for them? The module collects all the information about the available layouts from the following file: /usr/lib/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.xml. there is no such file on my system: $ ls /usr/lib/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.xml ls: /usr/lib/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.xml: No such file or directory nor there is a xorg.xml Actully with the modern Xorg server this file should be xorg.xml. But for the compatibility I use xfree86.xml. Maybe I have to use the following file /etc/X11/xkb/xfree86.xml ? In my Debian system the xfree86.xml is in /etc/X11/xkb/rules/ (I think the Debian policy mandate this location) $ ls -l /etc/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.xml lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 2006-05-08 19:11 /etc/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.xml - xorg.xml Please check if u have this file. And please let me know. Btw, do u have XKB extenssion installed/enabled ? I am not sure what you mean with that but making /usr/lib/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.xml a symlink to my xorg.xml gets the module working. Please consider adding the standard debian location to the module search path. BTW it would be very helpful to be able to browse the list of available languages via keyboard. (if I press 'e' the first available layout that begins with e gets selected) [...] Thanks for the help, and bye, Emme -- Aspetto un'emozione sempre piu' indefinibile (CCCP Fedeli alla linea) ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] discussion: new features in E. try 2.
muzzle wrote: On 6/12/06, Aleksej Struk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actully with the modern Xorg server this file should be xorg.xml. But for the compatibility I use xfree86.xml. Maybe I have to use the following file /etc/X11/xkb/xfree86.xml ? In my Debian system the xfree86.xml is in /etc/X11/xkb/rules/ (I think the Debian policy mandate this location) $ ls -l /etc/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.xml lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 2006-05-08 19:11 /etc/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.xml - xorg.xml The same applies to Trustix. -- Cheers, Morten :wq ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] discussion: new features in E. try 2.
On 6/10/06, Aleksej Struk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey raster, H, actually, I already implemented all the things in e_modules/language module. Now it is standalone. It is able to manage actual input language for each window, and flip between keybord layouts on the fly. Moreover it hooks into E and defines 2 new actions and keybindings for them as it starts, and removes those actions and keybindings on unload. I want to make one more hook into E. For now there exists a config dialog for the module. I'd like to hook it into the E main config panel. As far as I remmember there is a FIXME for this :) Unfortunatelly, somehow I missed ur mail. But now, I'll review the module once again wrt to your comments. Of course, I'd like to move some of the module's functionality directly to E. For example language settings per window. Consequently, this will remove some expensive searches and management of the running windows, since the module will know everything as soon as it gets a pointer to a border in callback :). But, if I move some of its functionality to E, then it will be dependent on E. And actually, the module will only flip the input keyboard layout and visualize the current language icon. So, then it cannot be standalone as now. Ofcourse, since the module works now, at least for me :), because I did not hear any comments about it yet, there is no need to reinvent it, to reprogram it and to place some of its functionality into E. mhm I tried to use it (on my x86 laptop with Debian sid), but the list of available keyboard layouts in the configuration window was empty. Am I supposed to do something to make the module aware of the available layouts? Where does the module look for them? Also, from my point of view, it would be nice to have it in the main E src tree, because, when non-english people starts a WM they'd like to have language tools immideately and without looking for the 3rd party module. What do u think about this ? As a non-english user I think I have been waiting for something like this module for a long time and it really deserves being included in the main tree! sndev Bye, Emme [...] -- Aspetto un'emozione sempre piu' indefinibile (CCCP Fedeli alla linea) ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] discussion: new features in E. try 2.
El Mon, 12 Jun 2006 13:05:27 +0200 muzzle [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: I have debian SID installed and my list is empty. xfree86.xml is at /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.xml and xorg.xml is at /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.xml maybe this the problem with empty list?. On 6/10/06, Aleksej Struk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey raster, H, actually, I already implemented all the things in e_modules/language module. Now it is standalone. It is able to manage actual input language for each window, and flip between keybord layouts on the fly. Moreover it hooks into E and defines 2 new actions and keybindings for them as it starts, and removes those actions and keybindings on unload. I want to make one more hook into E. For now there exists a config dialog for the module. I'd like to hook it into the E main config panel. As far as I remmember there is a FIXME for this :) Unfortunatelly, somehow I missed ur mail. But now, I'll review the module once again wrt to your comments. Of course, I'd like to move some of the module's functionality directly to E. For example language settings per window. Consequently, this will remove some expensive searches and management of the running windows, since the module will know everything as soon as it gets a pointer to a border in callback :). But, if I move some of its functionality to E, then it will be dependent on E. And actually, the module will only flip the input keyboard layout and visualize the current language icon. So, then it cannot be standalone as now. Ofcourse, since the module works now, at least for me :), because I did not hear any comments about it yet, there is no need to reinvent it, to reprogram it and to place some of its functionality into E. mhm I tried to use it (on my x86 laptop with Debian sid), but the list of available keyboard layouts in the configuration window was empty. Am I supposed to do something to make the module aware of the available layouts? Where does the module look for them? Also, from my point of view, it would be nice to have it in the main E src tree, because, when non-english people starts a WM they'd like to have language tools immideately and without looking for the 3rd party module. What do u think about this ? As a non-english user I think I have been waiting for something like this module for a long time and it really deserves being included in the main tree! sndev Bye, Emme [...] ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] discussion: new features in E. try 2.
Hey raster, H, actually, I already implemented all the things in e_modules/language module. Now it is standalone. It is able to manage actual input language for each window, and flip between keybord layouts on the fly. Moreover it hooks into E and defines 2 new actions and keybindings for them as it starts, and removes those actions and keybindings on unload. I want to make one more hook into E. For now there exists a config dialog for the module. I'd like to hook it into the E main config panel. As far as I remmember there is a FIXME for this :) Unfortunatelly, somehow I missed ur mail. But now, I'll review the module once again wrt to your comments. Of course, I'd like to move some of the module's functionality directly to E. For example language settings per window. Consequently, this will remove some expensive searches and management of the running windows, since the module will know everything as soon as it gets a pointer to a border in callback :). But, if I move some of its functionality to E, then it will be dependent on E. And actually, the module will only flip the input keyboard layout and visualize the current language icon. So, then it cannot be standalone as now. Ofcourse, since the module works now, at least for me :), because I did not hear any comments about it yet, there is no need to reinvent it, to reprogram it and to place some of its functionality into E. Also, from my point of view, it would be nice to have it in the main E src tree, because, when non-english people starts a WM they'd like to have language tools immideately and without looking for the 3rd party module. What do u think about this ? sndev On 6/6/06, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:18:20 + Aleksej Struk [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi all devs, I just repost my previous mail, since I did not get any comments on it yet :( and here come my comments (finally!) :) I would like to start a new discussion regarding E features. During the past time I usually use 2 different languages for input in my work. This languages are english and russian. So, in order to be able to switch between them I use setxkbmap program of the X11. I wrote a script which does language switching for me. This scrip, actually, looks as follows: #!/bin/sh f=`setxkbmap -print | grep xkb_symbols | awk '{printf $4}' | cut -d '+' -f 2` if [ $f = us ]; then setxkbmap -model compaqik13 -layout ru -variant basic elif [ $f = us(basic) ]; then setxkbmap -model compaqik13 -layout ru -variant basic elif [ $f = ru(basic) ]; then setxkbmap -model compaqik13 -layout us -variant basic fi ok - so basically u want to flip keymap on the fly and maybe have e flip keymap for you automatically as focus changes to different windows. definitely makes sense. However, it is not comfortable enought. First of all, I do not have any visual representation of my current language selection. Second, i think something in the titlebar of windows and/or in the window menu displaying some little flag for the keymap (the idea behind gadcon is to be able to add module output (gadcon clients) to things like borders, menus etc.) for example is what you want (and maybe a menu to select which keymap to use when that window is focused (if it's not the default), set up a default keymap, another temporary keymap to choose etc. might be what you want - right? there will nee to be a way to remember which windows use what keymaps (put it into the remember settings?) such a way of switching language is global. So, if I turn, for example, russian language, I will have it everywhere and in every application I currently use, but it would be nice to have some local language selection per application. Finally, I already had some troubles with non-english :) language and desktop locking. If I turn, for example, russian language and then lock the screen from the menu, or by using shortcut, for example ctrl+F12, I'm not able to unlock my desktop, since the ASCII code values of russian letters are greater that 128 and E, basically, do not accept them. Please do not refere to locale settings in this situation :) since I prefer to work in C locale or en_US. I would like to propose to implement such a language switchin mechanism in E, which is similar to the script I use. Also, such a technich is used in KDE for example. However, I'm able to implement it of course :), but I'd like to hear different opinions on that. Moreover, I'd like to hear some comments from devs, what should be done. The things I want to do are the following: a) implement a new configuration dialog that allows to select perfered languages, to set the default input language, and to select the language switching policy. For example such policies can be: (i) global - the language is selected for all applications, (ii) local - the language is selected
Re: [E-devel] discussion: new features in E. try 2.
Aleksej Struk wrote: But, if I move some of its functionality to E, then it will be dependent on E. And actually, the module will only flip the input keyboard layout and visualize the current language icon. So, then it cannot be standalone as now. Uhm.. isn't it dependant on E anyway? -- Cheers, Morten :wq ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] discussion: new features in E. try 2.
On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 11:04:39PM +0200, Morten Nilsen wrote: Aleksej Struk wrote: But, if I move some of its functionality to E, then it will be dependent on E. And actually, the module will only flip the input keyboard layout and visualize the current language icon. So, then it cannot be standalone as now. Uhm.. isn't it dependant on E anyway? Yes it is :) I just ment, that the half of the module's functionality will be put into E, and the half will be still in the module :) For example some data, that will be attached for each E_Border. Therefore if the module is not loaded then this data is useless :) sn -- Cheers, Morten :wq ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Aleksej Struk Master Degree Student Free University of Bozen-Bolzano Faculty of Computer Science phone: +39-0471-061749 cell phone: +39-3204627049 +370-61278908 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://astruk.googlepages.com/home ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] discussion: new features in E. try 2.
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:18:20 + Aleksej Struk [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi all devs, I just repost my previous mail, since I did not get any comments on it yet :( and here come my comments (finally!) :) I would like to start a new discussion regarding E features. During the past time I usually use 2 different languages for input in my work. This languages are english and russian. So, in order to be able to switch between them I use setxkbmap program of the X11. I wrote a script which does language switching for me. This scrip, actually, looks as follows: #!/bin/sh f=`setxkbmap -print | grep xkb_symbols | awk '{printf $4}' | cut -d '+' -f 2` if [ $f = us ]; then setxkbmap -model compaqik13 -layout ru -variant basic elif [ $f = us(basic) ]; then setxkbmap -model compaqik13 -layout ru -variant basic elif [ $f = ru(basic) ]; then setxkbmap -model compaqik13 -layout us -variant basic fi ok - so basically u want to flip keymap on the fly and maybe have e flip keymap for you automatically as focus changes to different windows. definitely makes sense. However, it is not comfortable enought. First of all, I do not have any visual representation of my current language selection. Second, i think something in the titlebar of windows and/or in the window menu displaying some little flag for the keymap (the idea behind gadcon is to be able to add module output (gadcon clients) to things like borders, menus etc.) for example is what you want (and maybe a menu to select which keymap to use when that window is focused (if it's not the default), set up a default keymap, another temporary keymap to choose etc. might be what you want - right? there will nee to be a way to remember which windows use what keymaps (put it into the remember settings?) such a way of switching language is global. So, if I turn, for example, russian language, I will have it everywhere and in every application I currently use, but it would be nice to have some local language selection per application. Finally, I already had some troubles with non-english :) language and desktop locking. If I turn, for example, russian language and then lock the screen from the menu, or by using shortcut, for example ctrl+F12, I'm not able to unlock my desktop, since the ASCII code values of russian letters are greater that 128 and E, basically, do not accept them. Please do not refere to locale settings in this situation :) since I prefer to work in C locale or en_US. I would like to propose to implement such a language switchin mechanism in E, which is similar to the script I use. Also, such a technich is used in KDE for example. However, I'm able to implement it of course :), but I'd like to hear different opinions on that. Moreover, I'd like to hear some comments from devs, what should be done. The things I want to do are the following: a) implement a new configuration dialog that allows to select perfered languages, to set the default input language, and to select the language switching policy. For example such policies can be: (i) global - the language is selected for all applications, (ii) local - the language is selected for the specific application or a window, (iii) maybe something else. sounds great. set actual language for e, keyboard map (the default keymap to set to if it isn't set up in x) and be able to change this easily and remember it. and then set it per window and remember it (flip on focus) sounds good. useful. b) implement 2 new actions that allows to switch between selected languages in two ways - forward and backword. For example if I have selected 3 languages EN-RU-IT, then I want to be able to switch between them in the 2 following ways: (i) EN-RU-IT-EN-... (ii) IT-RU-EN-IT... Of course here I assume that default language is EN. sounds good - you also want some popup like winlist or exebuf that displays an indication of what keymap you flip to. doing it like the winlist would probably be a good thing. c) implement an E module which will monitor the current language selection. Moreover it would be nice if it would allow to switch languages as well. For example if one click on it. i think we need some of this built in and some as modules. the actions and popup and ability to change keymap using keybindings and a dialog and remember per window imho should be built in. having modules DISPLAY the current keymap for a window in its title or the current default and/or active keymap on the shelf as a gadget (and possibly clicking on it provides a popup menu list of available keymaps to change that window or the current default to - would be the job of a module. I think the option a) is the most easiest from the implementation point of view. For the option b) I think the following actions whould be taken. The main E config should store the information what langs are selected, which is default one, and what lang switching policy is used. Also, the current
[E-devel] discussion: new features in E. try 2.
Hi all devs, I just repost my previous mail, since I did not get any comments on it yet :( I would like to start a new discussion regarding E features. During the past time I usually use 2 different languages for input in my work. This languages are english and russian. So, in order to be able to switch between them I use setxkbmap program of the X11. I wrote a script which does language switching for me. This scrip, actually, looks as follows: #!/bin/sh f=`setxkbmap -print | grep xkb_symbols | awk '{printf $4}' | cut -d '+' -f 2` if [ $f = us ]; then setxkbmap -model compaqik13 -layout ru -variant basic elif [ $f = us(basic) ]; then setxkbmap -model compaqik13 -layout ru -variant basic elif [ $f = ru(basic) ]; then setxkbmap -model compaqik13 -layout us -variant basic fi However, it is not comfortable enought. First of all, I do not have any visual representation of my current language selection. Second, such a way of switching language is global. So, if I turn, for example, russian language, I will have it everywhere and in every application I currently use, but it would be nice to have some local language selection per application. Finally, I already had some troubles with non-english :) language and desktop locking. If I turn, for example, russian language and then lock the screen from the menu, or by using shortcut, for example ctrl+F12, I'm not able to unlock my desktop, since the ASCII code values of russian letters are greater that 128 and E, basically, do not accept them. Please do not refere to locale settings in this situation :) since I prefer to work in C locale or en_US. I would like to propose to implement such a language switchin mechanism in E, which is similar to the script I use. Also, such a technich is used in KDE for example. However, I'm able to implement it of course :), but I'd like to hear different opinions on that. Moreover, I'd like to hear some comments from devs, what should be done. The things I want to do are the following: a) implement a new configuration dialog that allows to select perfered languages, to set the default input language, and to select the language switching policy. For example such policies can be: (i) global - the language is selected for all applications, (ii) local - the language is selected for the specific application or a window, (iii) maybe something else. b) implement 2 new actions that allows to switch between selected languages in two ways - forward and backword. For example if I have selected 3 languages EN-RU-IT, then I want to be able to switch between them in the 2 following ways: (i) EN-RU-IT-EN-... (ii) IT-RU-EN-IT... Of course here I assume that default language is EN. c) implement an E module which will monitor the current language selection. Moreover it would be nice if it would allow to switch languages as well. For example if one click on it. I think the option a) is the most easiest from the implementation point of view. For the option b) I think the following actions whould be taken. The main E config should store the information what langs are selected, which is default one, and what lang switching policy is used. Also, the current language selection should be stored in main config, probably just temporarly, if the global language switching policy is used. Also, I think, that the data structure representing the window border should have a field that will show the current language selection for this particular window, if the local language policy is selected. Then, the language for this window should be switched automatically, when it gets the focus. I think, that some sort of IPC also should be implemented in order to have a possibility to assign shortcuts. Of course, default shortcuts should be defined as well ::)) The option c) is the most mistirious for me, since I never worked with modules. I guess, that in order to monitor the current lang selection, some IPC actions should exist. Also, I think, they should exist if we want module to be able to switch languages. It would be nice if somebody referenced me to an existing example, or briefly explain how things should be done. Well, I think thats all what I wanted to write and ask opinions about. :) Waiting for comments, suggestions and etc. sn --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel