Re: [E-devel] Add ability to show/hide mouse cursor
Il giorno ven 8 feb 2019 alle ore 17:41 Carsten Haitzler < ras...@rasterman.com> ha scritto: > On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 17:27:18 +0100 Davide Andreoli > said: > > > Il giorno ven 8 feb 2019 alle ore 16:50 Carsten Haitzler < > > ras...@rasterman.com> ha scritto: > > > > > On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 13:41:06 +0100 Davide Andreoli < > d...@gurumeditation.it> > > > said: > > > > > > > Il giorno ven 8 feb 2019 alle ore 12:16 Boris Faure > ha > > > > scritto: > > > > > > > > > Hi :) > > > > > > > > > > I know we're about to close EFL 1.22 and I might be too late to > make > > > > > this request. > > > > > > > > > > In the foreseeable future, I'd love to make Terminology hide the > > > > > mouse over cursor after some delay of it not moving. Sadly, > elementary > > > > > and EFL in general, lack an API to do so. I've opened ticket > T7646 to > > > > > add that to EFL (I have not produced the code to make it possible). > > > > > This feature has been requested in Terminology about 4 years ago > and > > > > > we failed at delivering it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed this is a longstanding request, rage and epymc implemented > > > > some "hacks" to hide the mouse cursor, and they do not always work > > > > as expected. So a + from my side. (I'm not willing to implement this > > > myself) > > > > > > I'm not so sure it's a hack. We have APIs to set mouse cursors on > specific > > > widgets in elm. If the mouse is over that widget the cursor for that > > > widget is > > > shown. A global "don't show pointer" is also a hack in that it is brute > > > force > > > and you can't make it vary depending where the pointer is in that > window so > > > you are then using the current method to be more specific when needed > > > anyway > > > and then having to figure out the interaction now between 2 properties > > > rather > > > than a single one. I'm not sure other solutions are going to be less > of a > > > hack > > > in the end. > > > > > > i also haven't noticed it being unreliable. > > > > > > > It is not unreliable in rage because rage is simple (in terms of widgets > > hierarchy). > > In epymc there can be lots of other widgets that appear and disappear on > > top of > > the videoplayer widget (like dialogs, subtitles text, multimedia > controls, > > notification, etc). > > The "hack" I have done is the same as the rage one (a trasparent widget > on > > top of the stack, > > with cursor blank) and it not reliable: sometimes, quite randomly, when a > > new widget > > is created (below the transparent one) the mouse pointer is show again. > > That doesn't justify a special blank cursor api/mode. that means there is > a bug > in cursor-per-object handling and it would affect any custom cursor set on > an > object. :) > > > And frankly a transparent widget on top of all just to hide the mouse > > cursor is what > > I call an hack. > To keep this thread alive: Qt have implemented the feature requested: QGuiApplication::setOverrideCursor(QCursor(Qt::BlankCursor)) ... and it is not bugged :P > > > > > > > > > > > With the blank style terminology could do it over everything, over > just the > > > terminals (leaving the ptr to appear in the settings and other > controls), > > > on a > > > specific terminal only, or just do the "put a button above everything" > > > method > > > etc. ... > > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there something I can do (while not making the patch to EFL > > > myself) > > > > > to make this feature come sooner to EFL? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Boris Faure > > > > > Pointer Arithmetician > > > > > ___ > > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > -- > > > Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > > -- > - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- > Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com > > ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Add ability to show/hide mouse cursor
On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 17:27:18 +0100 Davide Andreoli said: > Il giorno ven 8 feb 2019 alle ore 16:50 Carsten Haitzler < > ras...@rasterman.com> ha scritto: > > > On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 13:41:06 +0100 Davide Andreoli > > said: > > > > > Il giorno ven 8 feb 2019 alle ore 12:16 Boris Faure ha > > > scritto: > > > > > > > Hi :) > > > > > > > > I know we're about to close EFL 1.22 and I might be too late to make > > > > this request. > > > > > > > > In the foreseeable future, I'd love to make Terminology hide the > > > > mouse over cursor after some delay of it not moving. Sadly, elementary > > > > and EFL in general, lack an API to do so. I've opened ticket T7646 to > > > > add that to EFL (I have not produced the code to make it possible). > > > > This feature has been requested in Terminology about 4 years ago and > > > > we failed at delivering it. > > > > > > > > > > Indeed this is a longstanding request, rage and epymc implemented > > > some "hacks" to hide the mouse cursor, and they do not always work > > > as expected. So a + from my side. (I'm not willing to implement this > > myself) > > > > I'm not so sure it's a hack. We have APIs to set mouse cursors on specific > > widgets in elm. If the mouse is over that widget the cursor for that > > widget is > > shown. A global "don't show pointer" is also a hack in that it is brute > > force > > and you can't make it vary depending where the pointer is in that window so > > you are then using the current method to be more specific when needed > > anyway > > and then having to figure out the interaction now between 2 properties > > rather > > than a single one. I'm not sure other solutions are going to be less of a > > hack > > in the end. > > > > i also haven't noticed it being unreliable. > > > > It is not unreliable in rage because rage is simple (in terms of widgets > hierarchy). > In epymc there can be lots of other widgets that appear and disappear on > top of > the videoplayer widget (like dialogs, subtitles text, multimedia controls, > notification, etc). > The "hack" I have done is the same as the rage one (a trasparent widget on > top of the stack, > with cursor blank) and it not reliable: sometimes, quite randomly, when a > new widget > is created (below the transparent one) the mouse pointer is show again. That doesn't justify a special blank cursor api/mode. that means there is a bug in cursor-per-object handling and it would affect any custom cursor set on an object. :) > And frankly a transparent widget on top of all just to hide the mouse > cursor is what > I call an hack. > > > > > > With the blank style terminology could do it over everything, over just the > > terminals (leaving the ptr to appear in the settings and other controls), > > on a > > specific terminal only, or just do the "put a button above everything" > > method > > etc. ... > > > > > cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there something I can do (while not making the patch to EFL > > myself) > > > > to make this feature come sooner to EFL? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Boris Faure > > > > Pointer Arithmetician > > > > ___ > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > > -- > > - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- > > Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com > > > > -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Add ability to show/hide mouse cursor
Il giorno ven 8 feb 2019 alle ore 16:50 Carsten Haitzler < ras...@rasterman.com> ha scritto: > On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 13:41:06 +0100 Davide Andreoli > said: > > > Il giorno ven 8 feb 2019 alle ore 12:16 Boris Faure ha > > scritto: > > > > > Hi :) > > > > > > I know we're about to close EFL 1.22 and I might be too late to make > > > this request. > > > > > > In the foreseeable future, I'd love to make Terminology hide the > > > mouse over cursor after some delay of it not moving. Sadly, elementary > > > and EFL in general, lack an API to do so. I've opened ticket T7646 to > > > add that to EFL (I have not produced the code to make it possible). > > > This feature has been requested in Terminology about 4 years ago and > > > we failed at delivering it. > > > > > > > Indeed this is a longstanding request, rage and epymc implemented > > some "hacks" to hide the mouse cursor, and they do not always work > > as expected. So a + from my side. (I'm not willing to implement this > myself) > > I'm not so sure it's a hack. We have APIs to set mouse cursors on specific > widgets in elm. If the mouse is over that widget the cursor for that > widget is > shown. A global "don't show pointer" is also a hack in that it is brute > force > and you can't make it vary depending where the pointer is in that window so > you are then using the current method to be more specific when needed > anyway > and then having to figure out the interaction now between 2 properties > rather > than a single one. I'm not sure other solutions are going to be less of a > hack > in the end. > > i also haven't noticed it being unreliable. > It is not unreliable in rage because rage is simple (in terms of widgets hierarchy). In epymc there can be lots of other widgets that appear and disappear on top of the videoplayer widget (like dialogs, subtitles text, multimedia controls, notification, etc). The "hack" I have done is the same as the rage one (a trasparent widget on top of the stack, with cursor blank) and it not reliable: sometimes, quite randomly, when a new widget is created (below the transparent one) the mouse pointer is show again. And frankly a transparent widget on top of all just to hide the mouse cursor is what I call an hack. > > With the blank style terminology could do it over everything, over just the > terminals (leaving the ptr to appear in the settings and other controls), > on a > specific terminal only, or just do the "put a button above everything" > method > etc. ... > > > cheers > > > > > > > > > > Is there something I can do (while not making the patch to EFL > myself) > > > to make this feature come sooner to EFL? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > -- > > > Boris Faure > > > Pointer Arithmetician > > > ___ > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > ___ > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > -- > - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- > Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com > > ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Add ability to show/hide mouse cursor
On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 13:41:06 +0100 Davide Andreoli said: > Il giorno ven 8 feb 2019 alle ore 12:16 Boris Faure ha > scritto: > > > Hi :) > > > > I know we're about to close EFL 1.22 and I might be too late to make > > this request. > > > > In the foreseeable future, I'd love to make Terminology hide the > > mouse over cursor after some delay of it not moving. Sadly, elementary > > and EFL in general, lack an API to do so. I've opened ticket T7646 to > > add that to EFL (I have not produced the code to make it possible). > > This feature has been requested in Terminology about 4 years ago and > > we failed at delivering it. > > > > Indeed this is a longstanding request, rage and epymc implemented > some "hacks" to hide the mouse cursor, and they do not always work > as expected. So a + from my side. (I'm not willing to implement this myself) I'm not so sure it's a hack. We have APIs to set mouse cursors on specific widgets in elm. If the mouse is over that widget the cursor for that widget is shown. A global "don't show pointer" is also a hack in that it is brute force and you can't make it vary depending where the pointer is in that window so you are then using the current method to be more specific when needed anyway and then having to figure out the interaction now between 2 properties rather than a single one. I'm not sure other solutions are going to be less of a hack in the end. i also haven't noticed it being unreliable. With the blank style terminology could do it over everything, over just the terminals (leaving the ptr to appear in the settings and other controls), on a specific terminal only, or just do the "put a button above everything" method etc. ... > cheers > > > > > > Is there something I can do (while not making the patch to EFL myself) > > to make this feature come sooner to EFL? > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > > Boris Faure > > Pointer Arithmetician > > ___ > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Add ability to show/hide mouse cursor
On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 12:15:29 +0100 Boris Faure said: > Hi :) > > I know we're about to close EFL 1.22 and I might be too late to make > this request. > > In the foreseeable future, I'd love to make Terminology hide the > mouse over cursor after some delay of it not moving. Sadly, elementary > and EFL in general, lack an API to do so. I've opened ticket T7646 to > add that to EFL (I have not produced the code to make it possible). > This feature has been requested in Terminology about 4 years ago and > we failed at delivering it. Rage already does this... :) take a look :) > Is there something I can do (while not making the patch to EFL myself) > to make this feature come sooner to EFL? > > Thanks > > -- > Boris Faure > Pointer Arithmetician -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Add ability to show/hide mouse cursor
Il giorno ven 8 feb 2019 alle ore 12:16 Boris Faure ha scritto: > Hi :) > > I know we're about to close EFL 1.22 and I might be too late to make > this request. > > In the foreseeable future, I'd love to make Terminology hide the > mouse over cursor after some delay of it not moving. Sadly, elementary > and EFL in general, lack an API to do so. I've opened ticket T7646 to > add that to EFL (I have not produced the code to make it possible). > This feature has been requested in Terminology about 4 years ago and > we failed at delivering it. > Indeed this is a longstanding request, rage and epymc implemented some "hacks" to hide the mouse cursor, and they do not always work as expected. So a + from my side. (I'm not willing to implement this myself) cheers > > Is there something I can do (while not making the patch to EFL myself) > to make this feature come sooner to EFL? > > Thanks > > -- > Boris Faure > Pointer Arithmetician > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
