Re: [E-devel] Window Minimize = Window Close

2006-08-24 Thread Peter
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:41:30 +0900, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
wrote:
snip...

 
 I can't reproduce this, and I've had several others verify that things
 are working properly. All I can suggest is rebuilding a fresh co of
 e17/apps/e and possibly nuking your configs (~/.e/e/config).
 
 you need to nuke your config - the signal bindings will have changed.
 

Yes, it was necessary to clean out config. Sort of sad since all my
settings and window placements were nuked too. Oh well. This corrected the
minimize problem. Thx.


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Re: [E-devel] Window Minimize = Window Close

2006-08-24 Thread brian . mattern
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 10:23:50AM +, Peter wrote:
 On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:41:30 +0900, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
 wrote:
 snip...
 
  
  I can't reproduce this, and I've had several others verify that things
  are working properly. All I can suggest is rebuilding a fresh co of
  e17/apps/e and possibly nuking your configs (~/.e/e/config).
  
  you need to nuke your config - the signal bindings will have changed.
  

I had added the new signal bindings inside an IFCFG for the latest
version... and I don't think I ever had to delete my configs while
working on it, so I assumed that was enough. Guess not :(
 
 Yes, it was necessary to clean out config. Sort of sad since all my
 settings and window placements were nuked too. Oh well. This corrected the
 minimize problem. Thx.
 

Unfortunately, that's life with unreleased software :(

rephorm.


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Re: [E-devel] Window Minimize = Window Close

2006-08-24 Thread Peter
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:03:15 -0500, brian.mattern wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 10:23:50AM +, Peter wrote:
 On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:41:30 +0900, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
 wrote:
 snip...
 
  
  I can't reproduce this, and I've had several others verify that things
  are working properly. All I can suggest is rebuilding a fresh co of
  e17/apps/e and possibly nuking your configs (~/.e/e/config).
  
  you need to nuke your config - the signal bindings will have changed.
  
 
 I had added the new signal bindings inside an IFCFG for the latest
 version... and I don't think I ever had to delete my configs while
 working on it, so I assumed that was enough. Guess not :(
 
 Yes, it was necessary to clean out config. Sort of sad since all my
 settings and window placements were nuked too. Oh well. This corrected the
 minimize problem. Thx.
 
 
 Unfortunately, that's life with unreleased software :(

I do understand. What _would_ be nice is some kind of notice that config
needs to be deleted or something along those lines. Because otherwise,
what you'll get are bug reports that really aren't. I see someone on .user
now reported a similar problem. So, my $0.02 is that when structural
changes occur that affect configuration or other user files, at least
announce it.

Thx

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Re: [E-devel] Window Minimize = Window Close

2006-08-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:18:40 + (UTC) Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:03:15 -0500, brian.mattern wrote:
 
  On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 10:23:50AM +, Peter wrote:
  On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:41:30 +0900, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
  wrote:
  snip...
  
   
   I can't reproduce this, and I've had several others verify that things
   are working properly. All I can suggest is rebuilding a fresh co of
   e17/apps/e and possibly nuking your configs (~/.e/e/config).
   
   you need to nuke your config - the signal bindings will have changed.
   
  
  I had added the new signal bindings inside an IFCFG for the latest
  version... and I don't think I ever had to delete my configs while
  working on it, so I assumed that was enough. Guess not :(
  
  Yes, it was necessary to clean out config. Sort of sad since all my
  settings and window placements were nuked too. Oh well. This corrected the
  minimize problem. Thx.
  
  
  Unfortunately, that's life with unreleased software :(
 
 I do understand. What _would_ be nice is some kind of notice that config
 needs to be deleted or something along those lines. Because otherwise,
 what you'll get are bug reports that really aren't. I see someone on .user
 now reported a similar problem. So, my $0.02 is that when structural
 changes occur that affect configuration or other user files, at least
 announce it.

we do have notice - rephorm should have increased the config major version.
minor version increases mean no config wipe - simply add new values and set
their defaults. if you need to go back and change the meaning of previously
used/set values - then you do need a major version jump. i'll bump that up.

from e_config.h:

/* increment this whenever we change config enough that you need new 
 * defaults for e to work.
 */
#define E_CONFIG_FILE_EPOCH  0x

i am bumping it up to 0x1

:)

 Thx
 
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Re: [E-devel] Window Minimize = Window Close

2006-08-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:03:15 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 10:23:50AM +, Peter wrote:
  On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:41:30 +0900, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
  wrote:
  snip...
  
   
   I can't reproduce this, and I've had several others verify that things
   are working properly. All I can suggest is rebuilding a fresh co of
   e17/apps/e and possibly nuking your configs (~/.e/e/config).
   
   you need to nuke your config - the signal bindings will have changed.
   
 
 I had added the new signal bindings inside an IFCFG for the latest
 version... and I don't think I ever had to delete my configs while
 working on it, so I assumed that was enough. Guess not :(

i think people are seeing strange behavior as they kept their OLD signal
bindings and these are somehow also being triggered and interfering.

  Yes, it was necessary to clean out config. Sort of sad since all my
  settings and window placements were nuked too. Oh well. This corrected the
  minimize problem. Thx.
  
 
 Unfortunately, that's life with unreleased software :(
 
 rephorm.
 
 
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Re: [E-devel] Window Minimize = Window Close

2006-08-24 Thread Peter
On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 06:30:51 +0900, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
wrote:

snip...
 
 we do have notice - rephorm should have increased the config major version.
 minor version increases mean no config wipe - simply add new values and set
 their defaults. if you need to go back and change the meaning of previously
 used/set values - then you do need a major version jump. i'll bump that up.
 
 from e_config.h:
 
 /* increment this whenever we change config enough that you need new 
  * defaults for e to work.
  */
 #define E_CONFIG_FILE_EPOCH  0x
 
 i am bumping it up to 0x1
 
 :)

Please don't shoot the messenger! But, thanks anyway!

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Re: [E-devel] Window Minimize = Window Close

2006-08-24 Thread brian . mattern
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 06:30:51AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
 we do have notice - rephorm should have increased the config major version.
 minor version increases mean no config wipe - simply add new values and set
 their defaults. if you need to go back and change the meaning of previously
 used/set values - then you do need a major version jump. i'll bump that up.
 
 from e_config.h:
 
 /* increment this whenever we change config enough that you need new 
  * defaults for e to work.
  */
 #define E_CONFIG_FILE_EPOCH  0x
 
 i am bumping it up to 0x1
 
 :)
 

Ahh! Gotcha. Thanks :)
Its odd that the old bindings had any effect (since the part names
changed). Anyway, at least I know for the next time :)

Sorry about the confusion.

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Re: [E-devel] Window Minimize = Window Close

2006-08-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 23:24:45 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 06:30:51AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
  we do have notice - rephorm should have increased the config major version.
  minor version increases mean no config wipe - simply add new values and set
  their defaults. if you need to go back and change the meaning of previously
  used/set values - then you do need a major version jump. i'll bump that up.
  
  from e_config.h:
  
  /* increment this whenever we change config enough that you need new 
   * defaults for e to work.
   */
  #define E_CONFIG_FILE_EPOCH  0x
  
  i am bumping it up to 0x1
  
  :)
  
 
 Ahh! Gotcha. Thanks :)
 Its odd that the old bindings had any effect (since the part names
 changed). Anyway, at least I know for the next time :)
 
 Sorry about the confusion.

no problems - always good to  know a new thing :)

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Re: [E-devel] Window Minimize = Window Close

2006-08-23 Thread Peter
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 07:45:41 +, Peter wrote:

 On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:09:49 +0200, Morten Nilsen wrote:
 
 Peter wrote:
 with this cvs pull of e17, clicking minimize on a window results in the
 window closing.
 
 with the recent theme changes going in, I feel obliged to inquire which
 theme you are using (even though I myself can't help you ;)

 
 I was using winter theme in a local profile. After recompiling and
 restarting, e defaulted to it's stock default theme with the standard gray
 background. When I click Configure/Theme, System-Default is shown. When I
 click About Theme, only a dialog box with moving yellow clouds is shown.
 
 In addition, clicking the maximize box has no effect. Clicking X does
 close the window. HTH


The process minimized appears to keep running, although it does not show
in any task or window list. Restarting the application restores the window.


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Re: [E-devel] Window Minimize = Window Close

2006-08-23 Thread Peter
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:09:49 +0200, Morten Nilsen wrote:

 Peter wrote:
 with this cvs pull of e17, clicking minimize on a window results in the
 window closing.
 
 with the recent theme changes going in, I feel obliged to inquire which
 theme you are using (even though I myself can't help you ;)


I was using winter theme in a local profile. After recompiling and
restarting, e defaulted to it's stock default theme with the standard gray
background. When I click Configure/Theme, System-Default is shown. When I
click About Theme, only a dialog box with moving yellow clouds is shown.

In addition, clicking the maximize box has no effect. Clicking X does
close the window. HTH

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Re: [E-devel] Window Minimize = Window Close

2006-08-23 Thread Morten Nilsen
Peter wrote:
 with this cvs pull of e17, clicking minimize on a window results in the
 window closing.

with the recent theme changes going in, I feel obliged to inquire which
theme you are using (even though I myself can't help you ;)

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Re: [E-devel] Window Minimize = Window Close

2006-08-23 Thread brian . mattern
The issues noted below should all be fixed. Let me know if there are any
others. I'll try to get winter moved over the new naming scheme in the
next couple of days.
rephorm

On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 08:36:50AM +, Peter wrote:
 On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 07:45:41 +, Peter wrote:
 
  On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:09:49 +0200, Morten Nilsen wrote:
  
  Peter wrote:
  with this cvs pull of e17, clicking minimize on a window results in the
  window closing.
  
  with the recent theme changes going in, I feel obliged to inquire which
  theme you are using (even though I myself can't help you ;)
 
  
  I was using winter theme in a local profile. After recompiling and
  restarting, e defaulted to it's stock default theme with the standard gray
  background. When I click Configure/Theme, System-Default is shown. When I
  click About Theme, only a dialog box with moving yellow clouds is shown.
  
  In addition, clicking the maximize box has no effect. Clicking X does
  close the window. HTH
 
 
 The process minimized appears to keep running, although it does not show
 in any task or window list. Restarting the application restores the window.
 
 
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Re: [E-devel] Window Minimize = Window Close

2006-08-23 Thread Peter
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:44:14 -0500, brian.mattern wrote:

 The issues noted below should all be fixed. Let me know if there are any
 others. I'll try to get winter moved over the new naming scheme in the
 next couple of days.
 rephorm

No. Using Default theme, and cvs a/o 1652UT, minimizing a window removes
it from the desktop but does NOT place it in the IconTray. It also is not
in the alt-tab sequence or in the winlist.

Clicking on the IconBar icon or running the application a second time
actually restores the minimized process and does not start a new process.
Whereas, clicking or running an application when there is an open window
on the desktop will launch a second instance of that app.


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Re: [E-devel] Window Minimize = Window Close

2006-08-23 Thread brian . mattern
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 06:55:41PM +, Peter wrote:
 On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:44:14 -0500, brian.mattern wrote:
 
  The issues noted below should all be fixed. Let me know if there are any
  others. I'll try to get winter moved over the new naming scheme in the
  next couple of days.
  rephorm
 
 No. Using Default theme, and cvs a/o 1652UT, minimizing a window removes
 it from the desktop but does NOT place it in the IconTray. It also is not
 in the alt-tab sequence or in the winlist.
 
 Clicking on the IconBar icon or running the application a second time
 actually restores the minimized process and does not start a new process.
 Whereas, clicking or running an application when there is an open window
 on the desktop will launch a second instance of that app.
 
 

I can't reproduce this, and I've had several others verify that things
are working properly. All I can suggest is rebuilding a fresh co of
e17/apps/e and possibly nuking your configs (~/.e/e/config).

rephorm


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Re: [E-devel] Window Minimize = Window Close

2006-08-23 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:22:51 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 06:55:41PM +, Peter wrote:
  On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:44:14 -0500, brian.mattern wrote:
  
   The issues noted below should all be fixed. Let me know if there are any
   others. I'll try to get winter moved over the new naming scheme in the
   next couple of days.
   rephorm
  
  No. Using Default theme, and cvs a/o 1652UT, minimizing a window removes
  it from the desktop but does NOT place it in the IconTray. It also is not
  in the alt-tab sequence or in the winlist.
  
  Clicking on the IconBar icon or running the application a second time
  actually restores the minimized process and does not start a new process.
  Whereas, clicking or running an application when there is an open window
  on the desktop will launch a second instance of that app.
  
  
 
 I can't reproduce this, and I've had several others verify that things
 are working properly. All I can suggest is rebuilding a fresh co of
 e17/apps/e and possibly nuking your configs (~/.e/e/config).

you need to nuke your config - the signal bindings will have changed.

 rephorm
 
 
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