Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

[Peter Flynn]

On 13/01/18 06:43, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
[...]
bryce (now gadget bar) is the same as shelf, 


For all practical (user) purposes it's identical, just slightly bigger 
icons and a more robust operating procedure. Plus the option for many 
more gadgets in the future.



stephen is right. it's far more than just for launching apps. its a
panel/bar/whatever thing for a bunch of "desktop control gadgets" that you'd
commonly use to control your desktop environment (or see its status).


I guess we all work in different ways. Apart from checking the battery 
level or the I/O, I would rarely use the gadgets. But I launch 
applications a lot.


P

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Re: [e-users] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

[Peter Flynn]

On 12/01/18 23:48, Stephen Houston wrote:

Can you file a ticket on phab.enlightenment.org and tag it
enlightenment-gadgets with this exact info?

[...]

I'll reboot later on just in case it's this Dell touchpad.


I rebooted and it's fine. I don't trust Dell hardware any more.

P

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Re: [e-users] Temperature gadget

[Stephen Houston]

I didn't change it as far as I remember. Same with temp. I'll make sure
they are working right. They are currently being converted to sandbox.

On Sat, Jan 13, 2018, 12:29 PM Davide Andreoli 
wrote:

> 2018-01-13 18:52 GMT+01:00 Stephen Houston :
>
> > Netstatus should be telling you the b/kb/mb. It is here. Automatic
> maximums
> > means that it checks every value in real time replacing the maximum if a
> > new value is higher than the old maximum value.
> >
>
> Netstaus show 2 percentage values in the popup here...
> It was showing kb when we worked on it some months ago, dunno why
> you changed it to show percentages  :/
>
>
>
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 13, 2018, 11:49 AM Massimo Maiurana 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Peter Flynn ha scritto il 12/01/2018 alle 22:50:
> > > >
> > > > Well, °C *is* a percentage, if you restrict it to the
> freezing—boiling
> > > > range :-)
> > >
> > > So it's a relative percentage ^^
> > >
> > > Anyway, the same thing applies even to netstatus, which esposes
> > > send/receive values as percentage. Oddly, if I set it to use automatic
> > > maximums I don't even know to what maximum value the percentage
> actually
> > > refers.
> > >
> > > I think it would be better to use B/KB/MB for the value and use
> > > percentage only to draw the bar, even if one sets maximums to a fixed
> > > value.
> > >
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> > >
> > >
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Re: [e-users] Temperature gadget

[Davide Andreoli]

2018-01-13 18:52 GMT+01:00 Stephen Houston :

> Netstatus should be telling you the b/kb/mb. It is here. Automatic maximums
> means that it checks every value in real time replacing the maximum if a
> new value is higher than the old maximum value.
>

Netstaus show 2 percentage values in the popup here...
It was showing kb when we worked on it some months ago, dunno why
you changed it to show percentages  :/



>
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018, 11:49 AM Massimo Maiurana 
> wrote:
>
> > Peter Flynn ha scritto il 12/01/2018 alle 22:50:
> > >
> > > Well, °C *is* a percentage, if you restrict it to the freezing—boiling
> > > range :-)
> >
> > So it's a relative percentage ^^
> >
> > Anyway, the same thing applies even to netstatus, which esposes
> > send/receive values as percentage. Oddly, if I set it to use automatic
> > maximums I don't even know to what maximum value the percentage actually
> > refers.
> >
> > I think it would be better to use B/KB/MB for the value and use
> > percentage only to draw the bar, even if one sets maximums to a fixed
> > value.
> >
> > --
> > Massimo Maiurana
> > Ragusa (RG)
> >
> >
> > 
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Re: [e-users] Temperature gadget

[Stephen Houston]

Netstatus should be telling you the b/kb/mb. It is here. Automatic maximums
means that it checks every value in real time replacing the maximum if a
new value is higher than the old maximum value.

On Sat, Jan 13, 2018, 11:49 AM Massimo Maiurana  wrote:

> Peter Flynn ha scritto il 12/01/2018 alle 22:50:
> >
> > Well, °C *is* a percentage, if you restrict it to the freezing—boiling
> > range :-)
>
> So it's a relative percentage ^^
>
> Anyway, the same thing applies even to netstatus, which esposes
> send/receive values as percentage. Oddly, if I set it to use automatic
> maximums I don't even know to what maximum value the percentage actually
> refers.
>
> I think it would be better to use B/KB/MB for the value and use
> percentage only to draw the bar, even if one sets maximums to a fixed
> value.
>
> --
> Massimo Maiurana
> Ragusa (RG)
>
>
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Re: [e-users] Temperature gadget

[Massimo Maiurana]

Peter Flynn ha scritto il 12/01/2018 alle 22:50:
> 
> Well, °C *is* a percentage, if you restrict it to the freezing—boiling
> range :-)

So it's a relative percentage ^^

Anyway, the same thing applies even to netstatus, which esposes
send/receive values as percentage. Oddly, if I set it to use automatic
maximums I don't even know to what maximum value the percentage actually
refers.

I think it would be better to use B/KB/MB for the value and use
percentage only to draw the bar, even if one sets maximums to a fixed value.

-- 
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Ragusa (RG)

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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

[Carsten Haitzler]

On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 13:22:45 +0100 Pierre Couderc  said:

> 
> On 01/11/2018 06:13 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote:
> > Thanks for your valuable input! We'll take it into consideration. If you
> > have feedback for the developer team in the future, please be sure to
> > include technical data to support your comments so that we can evaluate it
> > fairly.
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 3:41 AM Carsten Haitzler 
> > wrote:
> >
> I am shocked by this way of speaking to the Rasterman.

i just want to make it clear what ticked me off here. the above email sounds
like the "support call center" or a generic "corporate PR person". laying down
a platitude of "valuable feedback" but not actually addressing it (because
mostly these representatives are not technical staff and simply cannot).
after YEARS of me explaining both to users and to developers who joined
e/efl why the model is "single process" (as much as possible). the reason i
get ticked off is that mike should know better and he's pretending not to or
actively choosing not to.

it's showing a level of detachment and "us vs them" and it screamed to me "you
are an outsider" especially with phrases like "if you have feedback for the
developer team" keeping it as distant and anonymous as possible. it didn't
even address the issue i brought up - either disagreed and gave points, nor
address the alternative directions i suggested and stuck to a call-center like
content.

that is what ticked me off. it wasn't civil. it was cloaked in a veil of
civility but the actual message came off exactly as i described. just being
clear. it seems i'm not the only one to see that message in this email.

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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Creating Enlightenment Gadgets

[Pierre Couderc]

On 01/11/2018 06:13 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote:

Thanks for your valuable input! We'll take it into consideration. If you
have feedback for the developer team in the future, please be sure to
include technical data to support your comments so that we can evaluate it
fairly.

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 3:41 AM Carsten Haitzler 
wrote:


I am shocked by this way of speaking to the Rasterman.


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