Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Korean E dinner

2013-01-03 Thread Christopher Michael
Tom Hacohen  wrote:

>On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Michael Blumenkrantz <
>michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> NOT ANYMORE HE'S NOT
>>
>
>I agree.
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Was there a change in plans that I am not aware of ??

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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Korean E dinner

2013-01-03 Thread Christopher Michael
Tom Hacohen  wrote:

>Hm... Are you not coming to the British E lunch tomorrow?
>
>
>On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Christopher Michael
>wrote:
>
>> On 03/01/13 08:51, Cedric BAIL wrote:
>> > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Jérôme Pinot 
>wrote:
>> >> On 01/03/13 16:06, Cedric BAIL wrote:
>> >>> Hey boys,
>> >>>
>> >>> Who is in for a dinner on saturday 5th in Seoul ? Any preferred
>place ?
>> >>
>> >> Good for me!
>> >
>> > Any preference for the location ?
>> > --
>> > Cedric BAIL
>> >
>>
>> Yea, somewhere in the UK so everyone can attend :P
>>
>> Just kidding, the food tastes better in Korea anyway ;)
>>
>> dh
>>
>>
>>
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Lol. I will be there :-)

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Re: [e-users] fullscreen behavior since last week

2012-09-01 Thread Christopher Michael
Mick  wrote:

On Saturday 01 Sep 2012 18:03:24 P Purkayastha wrote:
> On 09/01/2012 11:09 PM, P Purkayastha wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Sometime in the previous 2 weeks, the behavior of fullscreen windows
> > 
> > in e has changed. Before the latest change, it used to be possible to
> > keep a window fullscreen and change desktops and when we return to the
> > previous desktop, the window would still remain fullscreen. The latest
> > behavior is that as soon as we leave the desktop, the fullscreen window
> > is iconified.
> > 
> > Was this a conscious change, or a side-effect of some other change to
> > 
> > the behavior of fullscreen windows? I couldn't find any setting that
> > would revert this behavior to the previous one.
> 
> There seems to be one workaround. If I enable "allow windows above
> fullscreen" then it un-iconifies the fullscreen window (there is an
> uniconify animation) every time I change back to the desktop which had
> the fullscreen window.

I'm on rev. 75926 here and a miximised terminal remains maximised as I switch 
back and forth between desktops. I only have one shelf at the bottom and I 
have it set as 'Stacking/Above Everything'.
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Maximized is not the same as Fullsreen (in X11 terminology) ;-)

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Re: [e-users] Hi to all!

2012-06-22 Thread Christopher Michael
M77  wrote:

Hi to all,
I'm happy E17 user since jan 2011, on my FreeBSD laptops.
I've selected this DE for it's performance and beauty.

Greetings

M1001101

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Great to hear positive feedback ;-) glad u enjoy :-)

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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Terminology - time to talk.

2012-06-17 Thread Christopher Michael
On 06/17/2012 11:21 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> So I got a little bit of stuff done while on holiday the week before last...
> and i wrote a terminal emulator. it's from scratch, so not a port of an
> existing one. This of course means the terminal emulation bit is definitely 
> not
> totally all there. It needs work, but it's usable enough to the point where I
> have switched to the new terminal -> terminology.
>



>
> What is so great about this and why should I use it? Well it uses EFL. a Lot.
> it's totally centric. just click right mouse to see how much. It has full GUI
> config built in (as well as some cmd-line switches). It's missing theme and
> wallpaper browser, but font selection, size changing, other behavior options
> etc. all work and are pretty slick and well done, if I don't say so myself :).
> It saves its config automatically too. On the cmd-line (run terminology -h for
> help), you can select theme (another edje file) and you can select background.
> Right now terminilogy supports the following backgrounds: normal pixel images
> (jpeg, png, bmp, tga, ppm, xpm, tiff etc. etc. - whatever evas does). It
> supports scalable images (svg, ps, pdf) as wallpapers. it will even properly
> scale them to the exact terminal size. yes - you read right. svg, pdf and svg
> backgrounds. It supports animated gifs - yes i know. They play (on loop) like
> they would in a browser. Feel free to go nuts here. It also supports... VIDEO
> as a background wallpapers. That's right. video. movies. audio included. You
> can play entire feature-length movies, or just short video snippets, or
> whatever. (audio is mutable on cmd-line or in gui, and video decode engine is
> selectable too - gstreamer, xine, or generic vlc supported if emotion is
> compiled with them all supported, the default is auto-select). Why do all of
> this? well completeness..., and because I can. It's so trivially easy to make
> such multimedia apps with layered ui's that get out of your way when you want
> to focus on work, but give you all the bling. Of and did I mention it also
> supports true translucency too and thanks to EFL, edje and friends themes can
> not just set a scrollbar look, or a background, but also overlays and nice
> shading too. Cursor is just a theme object, so its blinking is theme
> controlled. Oh and did i mention that I bothered to support xterm 256 color
> mode already, so 256color terminal apps should work. Oh and it ships with a
> selection of bitmap fonts so you don;'t need to install them separately, and
> offers them in a special bitmap section in the selector. :)
>

LOLcats  :D

> This app is far from being COMPLETE. of course you'll find rough edges and
> things not fully baked yet - especially in the terminal emulation department.
> That will mature (hopefully rapidly) over time, ESPECIALLY if people pitch in
> and scratch their own itches and problems. The terminal emulating code is all
> in termpty.c - it's not that long or hard to understand. it even has comments.
>
Indeed. Am noticing that, in certain situations, sometimes the text gets 
spaced out when using bitmap font (nexus). I haven't pin pointed the 
exact conditions which cause it just yet, but the result is that instead 
of having normal text as one would expect, I end up with text that draws 
a space in between each letter, but there is no 'actual' space...it's 
just drawn like there is. When I get more info (or steps to reproduce) 
I'll post back.

Cheers,
dh

> So what will the future hold? who knows, but definitely bringing it up to 
> snuff
> as a first-class terminal emulator. I INTEND it to have fancy frills - not be
> frill-free. even despite all the frills it beats the memory footprint of
> gnome-terminal by a good margin. It's decently fast now wit textgrid. Thanks 
> to
> Evas you can even have it use OpenGL to render... :) Give it some time and
> it'll come of age and I do hope become an indispensable utility for all the
> nerds out there. There's a TODO file with a list of things... to .. do... it's
> all optional and malleable. For me I just want a tool that makes me more
> productive day to day, looks gorgeous, and gives some self-respect to us here
> to have a terminal finally that uses the libs we go around making. :)
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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Removal of the old tiling module in /E-MODULES-EXTRA/tiling

2012-06-12 Thread Christopher Michael
On 06/12/2012 10:08 AM, Stefan Schmidt wrote:
> Hello.
>
> Now that we moved e-tiling into e17 core it is also time to remove his
> ancestor from the E-MODULES-EXTRA.
>
> It has no real activity since several years and the only one you did
> small changes on it over the last two years have been billiob and me.
> And we both no longer use it.
>
> Does anybody has a problem with removing it?
>
> regards
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To quote a Monty Python movie

"Get On With It" :P

What are you waiting for Christmas ?? Come on already, remove it !!! :P

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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Removal of the old tiling module in /E-MODULES-EXTRA/tiling

2012-06-12 Thread Christopher Michael
To quote a Monty Python movie

"Get On With It" :P

What are you waiting for ?? Come on already, remove it !!! :P

dh

On 06/12/2012 10:08 AM, Stefan Schmidt wrote:
> Hello.
>
> Now that we moved e-tiling into e17 core it is also time to remove his
> ancestor from the E-MODULES-EXTRA.
>
> It has no real activity since several years and the only one you did
> small changes on it over the last two years have been billiob and me.
> And we both no longer use it.
>
> Does anybody has a problem with removing it?
>
> regards
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Re: [e-users] Evas can't create a buffer canvas

2012-05-06 Thread Christopher Michael
Odd. Usually xcb is not enabled unless specifically asked for

Dh





Sent from Samsung mobileJeff Hoogland  wrote:I noticed 
my evas software x11 is showing:

Software X11...: yes (Xlib: no) (XCB: yes)

On my working 10.04 install it tells me Xlib support is enabled - perhaps
this is the issue on my 12.04 system? What configure flags/dev packages are
needed to get this option to a "yes"?

On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:

> OK so been playing around with configure flags and I have E crashing out
> with a different error message related to software-x11 now...
>
> E - PID=2090, do_precache=0, valgrind=0
> ESTART: 0.3 [0.3] - Begin Startup
> ESTART: 0.00619 [0.00616] - Signal Trap
> ESTART: 0.00689 [0.00070] - Signal Trap Done
> ESTART: 0.00735 [0.00045] - Eina Init
> ESTART: 0.00872 [0.00137] - Eina Init Done
> ESTART: 0.00889 [0.00017] - Determine Prefix
> =
> Enlightenment relocation handling
> =
> PREFIX:  /usr
> BINDIR:  /usr/bin
> LIBDIR:  /usr/lib
> DATADIR: /usr/share/enlightenment
> LOCALE:  /usr/share/locale
> =
> ESTART: 0.01903 [0.01014] - Determine Prefix Done
> ESTART: 0.01921 [0.00018] - Environment Variables
> ESTART: 0.01932 [0.00011] - Environment Variables Done
> ESTART: 0.01939 [0.7] - Parse Arguments
> ESTART: 0.01948 [0.9] - Parse Arguments Done
> ESTART: 0.01955 [0.7] - Eet Init
> ESTART: 0.02856 [0.00900] - Eet Init Done
> ESTART: 0.03412 [0.00557] - Ecore Init
> ESTART: 0.03554 [0.00141] - Ecore Init Done
> ESTART: 0.03568 [0.00014] - Ecore Event Handlers
> ESTART: 0.03580 [0.00012] - Ecore Event Handlers Done
> ESTART: 0.03590 [0.00010] - Ecore_File Init
> ESTART: 0.03817 [0.00227] - Ecore_File Init Done
> ESTART: 0.04146 [0.00329] - Ecore_Con Init
> ESTART: 0.04354 [0.00208] - Ecore_Con Init Done
> ESTART: 0.04360 [0.7] - Ecore_Ipc Init
> ESTART: 0.04367 [0.7] - Ecore_Ipc Init Done
> ESTART: 0.04372 [0.5] - Ecore_X Init
> ESTART: 0.09205 [0.04834] - Ecore_X Init Done
> ESTART: 0.09278 [0.00073] - Ecore_IMF Init
> ESTART: 0.09321 [0.00043] - Ecore_IMF Init Done
> ESTART: 0.09338 [0.00017] - Ecore_Evas Init
> ESTART: 0.09381 [0.00043] - Ecore_Evas Init Done
> ESTART: 0.09396 [0.00015] - Ecore_Evas Engine Check
>  Enlightenment Error 
> Enlightenment found ecore_evas doesn't support the Software X11
> rendering in Evas. Please check your installation of Evas and
> Ecore and check they support the Software X11 rendering engine.
> E17: Begin Shutdown Procedure!
>
>
> Evas again though is NOT showing anything wrong in the configure log - in
> fact it says software X11 is enabled -> http://pastebin.com/pQxrwf6d
>
> Anyone smarter than me know what is wrong here?
>
>
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>
>> So enlightenment_start is failing out with the error "Evas can't create a
>> buffer canvas" for the full error see this image (terminal on the right)
>> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-4fa43c9bf0a326.59352304.jpg
>>
>> I'm attaching my build logs for ecore and evas - although they both say
>> the buffer engine is enabled... What am I missing here? Build system is
>> Ubuntu 12.04 32bit.
>>
>> ecore: http://pastebin.com/GDnBj8LR
>> evas: http://pastebin.com/9K8cQG1L
>>
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Re: [e-users] E17 crashed, if hostname changed "on the fly"

2012-05-01 Thread Christopher Michael
On 05/01/12 19:36, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Tue, 01 May 2012 19:25:35 -0400 Christopher Michael
> said:
>
>> On 05/01/12 18:17, Vadim Efimov wrote:
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>>
>>> Recently, I found strange issue, with network.
>>> I use connman for network configuration, but maybe it not involved.
>>> I have E17 running. Then, I connect to router, who give me new hostname.
>>> If I try to run new app from GUI - menu or via everything starter,
>>> nothing happened. If I press ctrl+alt+end - E17 silently crashed,
>>
>> Backtrace please !! We cannot do anything without Knowing where there
>> crashed happened (and why).
>
> nah - e just couldnt re-connect to x. it had the old DISPLAY env var most
> likely but that was now no longer valid due to name change

GAR !!! Should have guessed K(dm) was doing something it shouldn't be 
(or doing something incorrectly...pick you're poison)

  - possibly due to
> connman or network manager or something fiddling with it.

My money is on NM doing something bad. Horribly written stuff that

  no crash - probably
> just e bitching it cant init x on stdout and exiting, thus ending the x login
> session. :)
>
YAR ! Makes sense in those terms now mate ;)

dh

>>> and I see kdm logon screen. But if I set hostname back - all things
>>> start working as expected.
>>>
>>
>> K(de)(dm). Should have guessed ;) Anyway, please attach a backtrace and
>> we can dig further into it...
>>
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Re: [e-users] E17 crashed, if hostname changed "on the fly"

2012-05-01 Thread Christopher Michael
On 05/01/12 18:17, Vadim Efimov wrote:
>   Hello!
>
>
> Recently, I found strange issue, with network.
> I use connman for network configuration, but maybe it not involved.
> I have E17 running. Then, I connect to router, who give me new hostname.
> If I try to run new app from GUI - menu or via everything starter,
> nothing happened. If I press ctrl+alt+end - E17 silently crashed,

Backtrace please !! We cannot do anything without Knowing where there 
crashed happened (and why).

> and I see kdm logon screen. But if I set hostname back - all things
> start working as expected.
>

K(de)(dm). Should have guessed ;) Anyway, please attach a backtrace and 
we can dig further into it...

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Re: [e-users] Scaling and the Illume Profile

2012-03-14 Thread Christopher Michael
On 03/14/2012 09:25 AM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> I can confirm after testing that it is ELFE that is causing the issue with
> scaling.
>
> Let me know if there is other information I can provide to get this issue
> resolve Nicolas.
>
/me prepares the beating trout for a royal thumping

dh

> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Nicolas Aguirre
> wrote:
>
>> Le 13 mars 2012 17:46, Christopher Michael  a
>> écrit :
>>> On 03/13/2012 12:19 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>> I know you dislike it - but if you add the ELFE module does it still
>> work?
>>>> I'll have to toggle other modules I use in the profile on and off to
>> see if
>>>> one of them is causing the issue.
>>>>
>>> Yea, don't care for all the space that it wastes ;)
>>>
>>> Umm, I would have to build/install it to test that. BUT if it does not
>>> work after adding the elfe module, then I would spank the ELFE module
>>> author very very hard if I were you !! ;) It (elfe) should not be
>>> breaking normal e_config stuffs like this
>>>
>>
>> I already notice this issue.
>> If i change the scaling value in elfe, it's a mistake and i'm pretty
>> sure i don't.
>>
>> As i'm using elementary in elfe, there is maybe a side effect between
>> both of them ?
>>
>>
>>> dh
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Christopher Michael<
>>>> cpmicha...@comcast.net>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 03/13/2012 12:07 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Howdy All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I sent a message regarding this a couple months back and the issue is
>>>>>> still
>>>>>> present - for some reason the "scaling" option doesn't function
>> properly
>>>>>> with and illume based profile. It works the first time you apply it,
>> but
>>>>>> each restart after that you must reapply the scaling level.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any ideas what is wrong? This makes the text on the illume keyboard
>> awful
>>>>>> hard to see.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Very odd. It's working here like it should
>>>>>
>>>>> dh
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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Re: [e-users] Scaling and the Illume Profile

2012-03-13 Thread Christopher Michael
On 03/13/2012 12:19 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> I know you dislike it - but if you add the ELFE module does it still work?
> I'll have to toggle other modules I use in the profile on and off to see if
> one of them is causing the issue.
>
Yea, don't care for all the space that it wastes ;)

Umm, I would have to build/install it to test that. BUT if it does not 
work after adding the elfe module, then I would spank the ELFE module 
author very very hard if I were you !! ;) It (elfe) should not be 
breaking normal e_config stuffs like this

dh

> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Christopher Michael<
> cpmicha...@comcast.net>  wrote:
>
>> On 03/13/2012 12:07 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy All,
>>>
>>> I sent a message regarding this a couple months back and the issue is
>>> still
>>> present - for some reason the "scaling" option doesn't function properly
>>> with and illume based profile. It works the first time you apply it, but
>>> each restart after that you must reapply the scaling level.
>>>
>>> Any ideas what is wrong? This makes the text on the illume keyboard awful
>>> hard to see.
>>>
>>>
>> Very odd. It's working here like it should
>>
>> dh
>>
>
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Re: [e-users] Scaling and the Illume Profile

2012-03-13 Thread Christopher Michael
On 03/13/2012 12:07 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Howdy All,
>
> I sent a message regarding this a couple months back and the issue is still
> present - for some reason the "scaling" option doesn't function properly
> with and illume based profile. It works the first time you apply it, but
> each restart after that you must reapply the scaling level.
>
> Any ideas what is wrong? This makes the text on the illume keyboard awful
> hard to see.
>

Very odd. It's working here like it should

dh

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Re: [e-users] Unable to Build - e_dbus module - Please help

2012-02-29 Thread Christopher Michael
On 02/29/2012 01:59 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 00:55:35 -0500 Christopher Michael
> said:
>
> and as i said to chris.. what does:
>
> export ELM_GL_INFO=1
> expedite -e gl
>
> say?
>
> lets go one step further and log module goop:
>
> export EINA_LOG_LEVELS=eina_module:4
>
> now what?
>
HRmmm.. /usr/lib & /usr/lib/1386 issues ??

dh

>> sorry for the top post
>>
>> iirc...old man is almost always right. when he's wrong, is still right
>> in ways ;)
>>
>> dh
>>
>> On 02/28/2012 10:32 PM, Wido wrote:
>>> Ok, so I got really really mad and nuked all the E prefix  (which was
>>> /opt). I also discovered that there were some ancient old EFL libs laying
>>> around un /usr/local. In fact, so ancient that there were still ewl and etk
>>> stuffI nuke all those dirs as well.
>>>
>>> Then, I kept looking for that egl_dri2.so file, and i happens to be
>>> installed with libegl1-mesa package. But I'm using NV drivers (I nuke and
>>> reinstall them as well, before I did with EFL).
>>>
>>> So, after deleting everything, reinstalling video drivers and recompiling
>>> all the EFLI just like before and expedite keeps giving the same error
>>>
>>> El 28 de febrero de 2012 21:53, Wido   escribió:
>>>
>>>> I'm getting:
>>>>
>>>> expedite: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/egl/egl_dri2.so:
>>>> undefined symbol: _glapi_get_proc_address
>>>>
>>>> but that lib is there:
>>>>
>>>> $ ls -l /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/egl/egl_dri2.so
>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 28172 ago  7  2011
>>>> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/egl/egl_dri2.so
>>>>
>>>> so I think I messed my libs somehow xD
>>>>
>>>> El 28 de febrero de 2012 20:56, Carsten
>>>> Haitzlerescribió:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:56:39 -0600 Chris Story   said:
>>>>>
>>>>> do you perhaps have multiple efl installs in different prefixes eg /usr
>>>>> and /usr/local or /usr/local and /opt/e or something? as such to get some
>>>>> cmdline fun try:
>>>>>
>>>>> export EVAS_GL_INFO=1
>>>>> expedite -e gl
>>>>>
>>>>> does that come up? if not - what does it complain about. if ti comes
>>>>> up... what
>>>>> does it report?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Raster --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am also getting the message regarding software mode OpenGL and am
>>>>> using
>>>>>> the Nvidia proprietary drivers in Ubuntu 11.10. I am able to compile E
>>>>>> without issue from the svn and the gl_x11 module is compiled in evas. My
>>>>>> logs are below. SVN version is 68512.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> c0re
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Evas Logs:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Engines:
>>>>>> Software Memory Buffer.: yes
>>>>>> Software X11...: yes (Xlib: yes) (XCB: no)
>>>>>> OpenGL X11.: yes (Xlib: yes) (XCB: no) (GLES: no)
>>>>>> (SGX: no) (s3c6410: no)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ecore Logs:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ecore_X (Xlib backend)...: yes
>>>>>>   Xcursor: yes
>>>>>>   Xkb: yes
>>>>>>   Xprint.: no
>>>>>>   Xinerama...: yes
>>>>>>   Xrandr.: yes
>>>>>>   Xgesture...: no
>>>>>>   Xscreensaver...: no
>>>>>>   Xrender: yes
>>>>>>   Xcomposite.: yes
>>>>>>   Xfixes.: yes
>>>>>>   Xdamage: yes
>>>>>>   Xdpms..: yes
>>>>>>   Xtest..: no
>>>>>>   XIM: yes
>>>>>>   Xi2: yes
>>>>>> Ec

Re: [e-users] Unable to Build - e_dbus module - Please help

2012-02-28 Thread Christopher Michael
sorry for the top post

iirc...old man is almost always right. when he's wrong, is still right 
in ways ;)

dh

On 02/28/2012 10:32 PM, Wido wrote:
> Ok, so I got really really mad and nuked all the E prefix  (which was
> /opt). I also discovered that there were some ancient old EFL libs laying
> around un /usr/local. In fact, so ancient that there were still ewl and etk
> stuffI nuke all those dirs as well.
>
> Then, I kept looking for that egl_dri2.so file, and i happens to be
> installed with libegl1-mesa package. But I'm using NV drivers (I nuke and
> reinstall them as well, before I did with EFL).
>
> So, after deleting everything, reinstalling video drivers and recompiling
> all the EFLI just like before and expedite keeps giving the same error
>
> El 28 de febrero de 2012 21:53, Wido  escribió:
>
>> I'm getting:
>>
>> expedite: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/egl/egl_dri2.so:
>> undefined symbol: _glapi_get_proc_address
>>
>> but that lib is there:
>>
>> $ ls -l /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/egl/egl_dri2.so
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 28172 ago  7  2011
>> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/egl/egl_dri2.so
>>
>> so I think I messed my libs somehow xD
>>
>> El 28 de febrero de 2012 20:56, Carsten 
>> Haitzlerescribió:
>>
>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:56:39 -0600 Chris Story  said:
>>>
>>> do you perhaps have multiple efl installs in different prefixes eg /usr
>>> and /usr/local or /usr/local and /opt/e or something? as such to get some
>>> cmdline fun try:
>>>
>>> export EVAS_GL_INFO=1
>>> expedite -e gl
>>>
>>> does that come up? if not - what does it complain about. if ti comes
>>> up... what
>>> does it report?
>>>
 Raster --

I am also getting the message regarding software mode OpenGL and am
>>> using
 the Nvidia proprietary drivers in Ubuntu 11.10. I am able to compile E
 without issue from the svn and the gl_x11 module is compiled in evas. My
 logs are below. SVN version is 68512.


 Thanks,
 c0re

 Evas Logs:

  Engines:
Software Memory Buffer.: yes
Software X11...: yes (Xlib: yes) (XCB: no)
OpenGL X11.: yes (Xlib: yes) (XCB: no) (GLES: no)
 (SGX: no) (s3c6410: no)

 Ecore Logs:


Ecore_X (Xlib backend)...: yes
  Xcursor: yes
  Xkb: yes
  Xprint.: no
  Xinerama...: yes
  Xrandr.: yes
  Xgesture...: no
  Xscreensaver...: no
  Xrender: yes
  Xcomposite.: yes
  Xfixes.: yes
  Xdamage: yes
  Xdpms..: yes
  Xtest..: no
  XIM: yes
  Xi2: yes
Ecore_Win32..: no
Ecore_Cocoa..: no
Ecore_SDL: no
Ecore_FB.: yes
  Touchscreen: no
Ecore_DirectFB...: no
Ecore_WinCE..: no
Ecore_PSL1GHT: no
Ecore_Wayland: no

   Ecore Evas:

Ecore_Evas...: yes
  Software Memory Buffer.: yes
  Software X11...: yes (Xlib=yes) (XCB=no)
  OpenGL X11.: yes (Xlib=yes) (XCB=no)
  Software GDI...: no
  Software DirectDraw: no
  Direct3D...: no
  OpenGL Glew: no
  Software SDL...: no
  OpenGL SDL.: no
  OpenGL Cocoa...: no
  DirectFB...: no
  PSL1GHT: no
  Software Framebuffer...: yes
  Software 8bit grayscale XCB: no
  Software 16bit X11.: no
  Software 16bit DirectDraw..: no
  Software 16bit WinCE...: no
  Sing.Proc. Windowing System: yes
  Wayland Shm: no


   glxinfo|grep OpenGL

   OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
   OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7300 GS/PCI/SSE2
   OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 173.14.30
   OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20 NVIDIA via Cg compiler
   OpenGL extensions:

 Xorg.log:

  [ 42195.119] (**) ModulePath set to
 "/usr/lib/nvidia-173-updates/xorg,/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
  [ 42195.119] (**) Extension "Composite" is enabled
  [ 42195.119] (WW) Hotpl

Re: [e-users] settings > settings panel

2012-02-24 Thread Christopher Michael
On 02/24/2012 04:33 PM, mh wrote:
> Somehow the top of my settings panel window extends beyond the top of the 
> desktop. I can't pull it down or move it lower. Besides deleting my e 
> configuration, is there any way to move it down? All the other Settings 
> options, like Gadgets, Modules, Themes etc are fine. thanks...
>
Hold down ALT + Grab the window (with the mouse). Should be able to move 
it then.

dh

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Re: [e-users] CPU Module and Intel-Multi Core in recent builds

2012-02-22 Thread Christopher Michael
On 02/22/2012 10:09 AM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> A quote from a Bodhi user:
>
> "the cpu installed Version 2022-1 and this is the last function Version
> for Intel-Multi-Kernel.
> For single Kernel and switching to 'only One middle % range of total used
> CPU' viewing, the following Versions working too, but not for viewing 'used
> % for each kernel in CPU'.
> There is a short time viewing 'THING!' and then 0% for ever, if I will see
> the cpu-using in % for each Kernel.
> My machine:
> struppi@predator-struppi:~$ inxi -F
> System:Host: predator-struppi Kernel: 3.0.0-12-generic-pae i686 (32 bit)
>Desktop Enlightenment 0.16.999.67793 Distro: Ubuntu 10.04 lucid
> Machine:   System: Acer product: Aspire G7700
>Mobo: Acer model: MC72XE Bios: AMI version: R01-A2 date:
> 06/17/2008
> CPU:   Quad core Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q9550 (-MCP-) cache: 6144 KB
> flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx)
>Clock Speeds: 1: 2003.00 MHz 2: 2003.00 MHz 3: 2003.00 MHz 4:
> 2003.00 MHz
> Graphics:  Card: nVidia G92 [GeForce 9800 GTX] X.Org: 1.9.0 driver:
> Resolution: 2560x1600@50.0hz
>GLX Renderer: GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+/PCI/SSE2 GLX Version:
> 3.3.0 NVIDIA 285.05.09
> Audio: Card: nVidia MCP55 High Definition Audio driver: HDA Intel
> Sound: ALSA ver: 1.0.24
> Network:   Card: Marvell 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver:
> sky2
>IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac:
> 00:21:85:9d:37:85
> Drives:HDD Total Size: 2530.5GB (42.2% used) 1: /dev/sda WDC_WD6400AAKS
> 640.1GB
>2: /dev/sdb SAMSUNG_HD502IJ 500.1GB 3: /dev/sdc SAMSUNG_HD753LJ
> 750.2GB
>4: /dev/sdd SAMSUNG_HD642JJ 640.1GB
> Partition: ID: / size: 30G used: 2.5G (9%) fs: xfs ID: swap-1 size: 10.74GB
> used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
> Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 37.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 60C
>Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
> Info:  Processes: 146 Uptime: 41 min Memory: 371.9/8073.3MB Client:
> Shell inxi: 1.7.27
> struppi@predator-struppi:~$"
>
> In short the latest SVN builds of the "cpu" module no longer display things
> properly for intel multi-core systems. A CPU module built from an SVN pull
> on November 22, 2011 works fine for him though with everything else being
> the latest from the E svn - thus I believe the issue is in the CPU module.
>
> For now I am just going to roll my code base back on that module to late
> last year. Would be nice if a fix for the latest version could be created
> though.
>
> Regards,

Fixed in svn now.

http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/68282

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Re: [e-users] Trying to migrate from e16 to e17. Things missing?

2012-02-10 Thread Christopher Michael
On 02/09/12 22:35, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> I'm a long time e16 user, and I'm giving e17 one more shot after a few
> tries in the last 10 years.
>
> Can you help me figure out if I did anything wrong and point me to the
> right places if needed?
>
> I got 0.16.999.55225-1 from debian-testing and I see from
> http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=download&l=en
> that 0.16.999.65643 is latest. Not sure if debian is trailing because of
> stability issues, or because they're slacking :)
>
> Here are the issues I have so far:
>
> 1) If I move a window half way off screen, it doesn't strattle both
> screens like it did in e16. Last I asked Raster (a few years ago) he
> said that was normal then. I kind of miss that.
> Is there a way to get this to work, or not really?
Not really (afaik). When you move the window past a certain threshold, 
it will get moved to the next desktop. There is no half-and-half.

>
> 2) systray.
> The mailing list says to read the FAQ but does not give a
> link. I already read http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/FAQ
> Is it the right FAQ?
>
> It says there is a systray but I have enabled it in system/modules and
> it does not seem to show up anywhere.
> Is it buggy in my version, or am I not understanding where it shows up?
> For now I'm using stalonetray and that works.
E17 systray module DOES work. Did you add the systray module to a shelf 
somewhere ?? You will need to do that, else there is nowhere for the 
systray module to be and this nowhere to display things.
I'd guess that you are on the mis-understanding side of things...

>
> 3) Can I get the pager to snapshot windows like it did in e16?
Not yet. I can be done, but requires composite module enabled and even 
then, that functionality is not enabled in pager module itself. So, 
either way, you are not going to see it ... just yet ;) It is possible 
to do (as far as I understand), but that functionality is not present in 
the current pager module anyway (unless I am years out of date, which I 
highly doubt) ;)

>
> 4) battery widget does not show battery value, while 'acpi' does.
Hrrrm... Rasties ? Smells bat module is missing some entries to sniff on ??

>
> 5) what does the dbus extension do?
>
> 6) temperature widget shows 'NA' and setup shows nothing on how to
> configure it.
Likely not a module configure problem. More than likely a "kernel 
config" issue in that the temp module is look for certain things to read 
in /sys (or something, I could be wrong here). Best thing to do...read 
the temp module code, see what it is looking for. Kernel usually 
provides necessary interfaces that the temp module is looking for 
Raster would know more.

>
> 7) the black and white theme (default) does not allow me to expand
> window sizes from their sides. Just from the top and bottom.
> Is that by design in that theme? (I haven't tried other ones yet, for
> some reason debian only seems to ship one).
Design in the theme. Other themes may provide that ability. Current 
default theme does not.

>
> 8) I used to get a list of active windows with alt+middle mouse button,
> but I see e17 has been neutered to only work with the first button.
> Is there a way (another theme?) to use all 3 mouse buttons again?

Middle button on the desktop will give you a list of all windows. Active 
or not. You can choose from there. Others will have more info on this. 
It's not something I normally use.

>
> Thanks,
> Marc

Cheers,
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Re: [e-users] Scaling + Illume Profile

2012-01-24 Thread Christopher Michael
Top posted cause that seems what Jeff91 does ;)

Anyway, Illume really (when ya boil it down), is just a "profile" that E 
runs. Yea, it will handle windows differently, but it's modular so it 
only does what you tell it via it's "policies". (only real thing that 
makes illume a diff). Modular, portable, fast, efl, clean, And simple...

Issue here doesn't "seem" profile related...more "Settings" related. 
Check your e.cfg's (dates, times, etc) make sure all that is valid and 
current (including your svn).


If in doubt, you can always "decompile" the E Config files...not too 
hard ;) (eet)

Then check befores & afters of the config values...

They don't change by themselves ;) Something is making the 
changeperhaps ELFE is making a "write" that it doesn't need 
to...thus causing a "real" eet write.. (at perhaps the wrong time).

Hint: Use the e_config "queue" to write changes '((when E has 
time))'...immediate writes cost drive spins...

Don't know the ELFE source @ all :/ Regardless, ya config version is 
either borked, or ya found a real problem. Let me know if/when ya get 
more info

Need more 'homework' here...

dh


On 01/23/12 15:03, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Only major change from the default illume profile is that the ELFE module
> is in use instead of the normal illume home screen.
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Christopher Michael> wrote:
>
>> On 01/23/12 13:35, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>
>>> Does the scaling module settings "stick" for anyone else using the illume
>>> profile? Whenever I am using the illume profile and do an E (or system)
>>> restart my scaling is set back to 1.00 for everything, even though in the
>>> scaling settings it still reads it's previous value. If I adjust the
>>> scaling value it works again for the remainder of the session until I
>>> again
>>> do a restart of some sort.
>>>
>>>
>> Is this the normal illume profile ? or that tablet setup stuff ??
>>
>> dh
>>
>>
>
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Re: [e-users] Scaling + Illume Profile

2012-01-23 Thread Christopher Michael
On 01/23/12 13:35, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Does the scaling module settings "stick" for anyone else using the illume
> profile? Whenever I am using the illume profile and do an E (or system)
> restart my scaling is set back to 1.00 for everything, even though in the
> scaling settings it still reads it's previous value. If I adjust the
> scaling value it works again for the remainder of the session until I again
> do a restart of some sort.
>

Is this the normal illume profile ? or that tablet setup stuff ??

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Re: [e-users] Has emprint been depreciated or something?

2011-08-26 Thread Christopher Michael
On 08/25/2011 11:06 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 21:49:12 -0300 Wido  said:
>
> you dont merge them. you simply add features to the one u like from the other.
> e's shot module is simple. i didn't intend to make it complicated. you could 
> add
> features if u wanted. it's not hard. emprint is a stand alone tool though. 
> shot
> is just a feature added to e17 via a module
>
I had actually wanted to do just that...add to E's screenshot tool some 
missing features from emprint, just have not had the time yet. Patches 
welcome ;)

dh

>> What about merge them?
>>
>> Sure, emprint has a lot of goodstuff and the newer screenshot too..why
>> waste effort in maitaining two good tools that practically do the same
>> thing?
>>
>> wouldn't be smarter to merge both projects, both perspectives into one much
>> more rich application/module?
>>
>> 2011/8/25 Christopher Michael
>>
>>> On 08/25/2011 07:02 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:49:21 -0400 "J(tWdy)P"   said:
>>>>
>>>>> Has emprint been depreciated or something???
>>>>>
>>>>> I ask about emprint because I'm used to using it in a few personal
>>> scripts.
>>>>> Some of which I've assigned keyboard shortcuts too. And I've got a new
>>>>> installation of Sabayon Linux on my laptop. And Sabayon's "own" package
>>>>> management system "entropy" doesn't seem to offer emprint.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would have just thought it was a Sabayon thing but when I googled
>>> around
>>>>> about it I came across something about a new E17 built-in "simple"
>>> screenshot
>>>>> utility coming down the pipe. (Which hasn't yet trickled down to any of
>>> my
>>>>> installed Linux distros yet) And it wouldn't be available when I'm using
>>> E16
>>>>> or xfce like emprint is, in any case.
>>>>>
>>>>> And I'd really like to know if I need to take measures with the various
>>>>> Linux installations where I still have it to prevent their package
>>> managers
>>>>> from automatically uninstalling it on me. At least until I find an
>>>>> acceptable scriptable command line substitute that can be used
>>>>> independently of which desktop I'm currently using.
>>>>>
>>>>> If emprint really is going away, can somebody recommend another desktop
>>>>> independent CLI tool that I could modify my scripts to use?
>>>>
>>> No, emprint is not going anywhere. I plan to support it and keep it
>>> alive ;) as it is much lighter than things like scrot, etc (because it's
>>> efl based). Yes, e17 itself now comes with a simple screenshot tool, but
>>> it is not as powerful as emprint (can't do regions, or grab specific
>>> windows, etc). So no, emprint will be staying around for quite some time...
>>>
>>>
>>> dh
>>>
>>>> import (imagemagick)
>>>>
>>>>> TIA
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Re: [e-users] Has emprint been depreciated or something?

2011-08-25 Thread Christopher Michael
On 08/25/2011 07:02 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:49:21 -0400 "J(tWdy)P"  said:
>
>> Has emprint been depreciated or something???
>>
>> I ask about emprint because I'm used to using it in a few personal scripts.
>> Some of which I've assigned keyboard shortcuts too. And I've got a new
>> installation of Sabayon Linux on my laptop. And Sabayon's "own" package
>> management system "entropy" doesn't seem to offer emprint.
>>
>> I would have just thought it was a Sabayon thing but when I googled around
>> about it I came across something about a new E17 built-in "simple" screenshot
>> utility coming down the pipe. (Which hasn't yet trickled down to any of my
>> installed Linux distros yet) And it wouldn't be available when I'm using E16
>> or xfce like emprint is, in any case.
>>
>> And I'd really like to know if I need to take measures with the various
>> Linux installations where I still have it to prevent their package managers
>> from automatically uninstalling it on me. At least until I find an
>> acceptable scriptable command line substitute that can be used
>> independently of which desktop I'm currently using.
>>
>> If emprint really is going away, can somebody recommend another desktop
>> independent CLI tool that I could modify my scripts to use?
>
No, emprint is not going anywhere. I plan to support it and keep it 
alive ;) as it is much lighter than things like scrot, etc (because it's 
efl based). Yes, e17 itself now comes with a simple screenshot tool, but 
it is not as powerful as emprint (can't do regions, or grab specific 
windows, etc). So no, emprint will be staying around for quite some time...


dh

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>
>> TIA
>>
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Re: [e-users] OpenGL Compositing Frags Screen with Nvidia+Closed Source Drivers 330m

2011-08-10 Thread Christopher Michael
On 08/10/2011 02:59 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Hey All,
>
> So on my sony laptop that has an nvidia 330m cannot use compositing in
> OpenGL mode. 3D applications work fine, but when telling compositing to use
> OpenGL all I get is white rectangle in the upper right hand corner of my
> screen.
>
> The exact same xserver/package versions and nvidia driver versions work A-OK
> with opengl compositing on my 260m nvidia card.
>
> Any ideas?
>

Hmm, driver bug maybe ?? 310m here and all is well wrt OpenGL and 
Compositing:) (and I am even using xcb with all that) :)

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Re: [e-users] Latest SVN of E failing to compile

2011-08-01 Thread Christopher Michael
On 08/01/2011 11:22 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Huh - just booted back into my build system and libxcb1-dev is installed
> here already. Other ideas?
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Christopher Michael> wrote:
>
>> On 08/01/2011 10:48 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>
>>> Ahh right. Should I be rebuilding all my E libs then after adding xcb to
>>> the
>>> system?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Christopher Michael
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   On 08/01/2011 10:19 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Fragging out with this message -
>>>>>
>>>>> http://pastebin.com/DKJEU8SP
>>>>>
>>>>> I did a make clean before starting this time, tried twice with the same
>>>>> results.
>>>>>
>>>>> Input?
>>>>>
>>>>>   Check your installed libs:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PKG_CHECK_MODULES(E_ALERT, [
>>>>   xcb
>>>>   eina>= 1.0.999
>>>>   ecore>= 1.0.999
>>>>   ecore-ipc>= 1.0.999
>>>> ])
>>>>
>>>> Guessing you don't have libxcb...
>>>>
>>>> dh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>   Na, just need to rebuild E if that's all that was failing.
>>
>> dh
>>
>>
>
>
Hmmm...working here.

Could check you're versions of eina, ecore, and ecore-ipc.

(pkg-config --modversion eina), etc, etc.

If they are >= 1.0.999 then you should be ok. Failing that, send the 
config.log file and I'll have a look.

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Re: [e-users] Latest SVN of E failing to compile

2011-08-01 Thread Christopher Michael
On 08/01/2011 10:48 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Ahh right. Should I be rebuilding all my E libs then after adding xcb to the
> system?
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Christopher Michael
> wrote:
>
>> On 08/01/2011 10:19 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>
>>> Fragging out with this message -
>>>
>>> http://pastebin.com/DKJEU8SP
>>>
>>> I did a make clean before starting this time, tried twice with the same
>>> results.
>>>
>>> Input?
>>>
>>>   Check your installed libs:
>>
>> PKG_CHECK_MODULES(E_ALERT, [
>>   xcb
>>   eina>= 1.0.999
>>   ecore>= 1.0.999
>>   ecore-ipc>= 1.0.999
>> ])
>>
>> Guessing you don't have libxcb...
>>
>> dh
>>
>>
>
>
Na, just need to rebuild E if that's all that was failing.

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Re: [e-users] Latest SVN of E failing to compile

2011-08-01 Thread Christopher Michael
On 08/01/2011 10:19 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Fragging out with this message -
>
> http://pastebin.com/DKJEU8SP
>
> I did a make clean before starting this time, tried twice with the same
> results.
>
> Input?
>
Check your installed libs:

PKG_CHECK_MODULES(E_ALERT, [
   xcb
   eina >= 1.0.999
   ecore >= 1.0.999
   ecore-ipc >= 1.0.999
])

Guessing you don't have libxcb...

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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Ecore XCB

2011-08-01 Thread Christopher Michael
In Svn, but had to modify it a bit.

Thanks

dh

On 08/01/2011 05:02 PM, Boris Faure wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 21:59, Christopher Michael
>   wrote:
>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Boris Faurewrote:
>>>> I'll rewrite the patch to make ecore_xcb work with both xcb<1.7 and
>>>> xcb>= 1.7 so that it's fine for everyone.
>>
>> New patch sounds good :) as long as it will build for both .. until such
>> time that distros across the spectrum are all updated to development
>> xcb. When that happens then we can stop supporting current stable xcb
>> (0.3.6) and remove the legacy code :)
>>
>> When you get your new patch(s) ready, send them out to the mailing list
>> and I'll gladly have a look :)
>
> Patch is attached. Tell me if it works fine for you and I'll gladly commit it.
> I've done a few things other than just use the new API:
> - removed an unused var in ecore_x_icccm_size_pos_hints_get() and
> added __UNUSED__ on win,
> - changed LONG_MAX into UINT32_MAX in ecore_x_window_prop_property_get().
> I think UINT32_MAX should be used instead of hard-coding 0x7fff or
> 100L when calling xcb_get_property_unchecked().
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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Ecore XCB

2011-08-01 Thread Christopher Michael
On 08/01/2011 07:23 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
> On 08/01/2011 05:02 PM, Boris Faure wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 21:59, Christopher Michael
>>  wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Boris Faure wrote:
>>>>> I'll rewrite the patch to make ecore_xcb work with both xcb< 1.7 and
>>>>> xcb>= 1.7 so that it's fine for everyone.
>>>
>>> New patch sounds good :) as long as it will build for both .. until such
>>> time that distros across the spectrum are all updated to development
>>> xcb. When that happens then we can stop supporting current stable xcb
>>> (0.3.6) and remove the legacy code :)
>>>
>>> When you get your new patch(s) ready, send them out to the mailing list
>>> and I'll gladly have a look :)
>>
>> Patch is attached. Tell me if it works fine for you and I'll gladly
>> commit it.
>> I've done a few things other than just use the new API:
>> - removed an unused var in ecore_x_icccm_size_pos_hints_get() and
>> added __UNUSED__ on win,
>> - changed LONG_MAX into UINT32_MAX in ecore_x_window_prop_property_get().
>> I think UINT32_MAX should be used instead of hard-coding 0x7fff or
>> 100L when calling xcb_get_property_unchecked().
>>
> Ok, that is not correct. 'Win' is used there:
>
> xcb_get_wm_normal_hints_unchecked(conn, win);
>
> I am seeing some other issues with this patch also, but it is a good
> start. I'll use this patch, fix some incorrect things and apply.
>
> Thanks,
> dh
>
Yea, I cannot accept this patch as it sits currently. It will not even 
apply against current ecore from svn :( so I will have to manually 
cherry pick it.

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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Ecore XCB

2011-08-01 Thread Christopher Michael
On 08/01/2011 05:02 PM, Boris Faure wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 21:59, Christopher Michael
>   wrote:
>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Boris Faurewrote:
>>>> I'll rewrite the patch to make ecore_xcb work with both xcb<1.7 and
>>>> xcb>= 1.7 so that it's fine for everyone.
>>
>> New patch sounds good :) as long as it will build for both .. until such
>> time that distros across the spectrum are all updated to development
>> xcb. When that happens then we can stop supporting current stable xcb
>> (0.3.6) and remove the legacy code :)
>>
>> When you get your new patch(s) ready, send them out to the mailing list
>> and I'll gladly have a look :)
>
> Patch is attached. Tell me if it works fine for you and I'll gladly commit it.
> I've done a few things other than just use the new API:
> - removed an unused var in ecore_x_icccm_size_pos_hints_get() and
> added __UNUSED__ on win,
> - changed LONG_MAX into UINT32_MAX in ecore_x_window_prop_property_get().
> I think UINT32_MAX should be used instead of hard-coding 0x7fff or
> 100L when calling xcb_get_property_unchecked().
>
Ok, that is not correct. 'Win' is used there:

xcb_get_wm_normal_hints_unchecked(conn, win);

I am seeing some other issues with this patch also, but it is a good 
start. I'll use this patch, fix some incorrect things and apply.

Thanks,
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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Ecore XCB

2011-08-01 Thread Christopher Michael
On 08/01/2011 03:36 PM, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Boris Faure  wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 01:16, Christopher Michael
>>   wrote:
>>> On 07/30/2011 06:36 PM, Boris Faure wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 01:10, Christopher Michael
>>>> wrote:
>>>> […]
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) It may not build on your system (tho it builds on all boxes I have
>>>>> tried so far).
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't build on my boxes (gentoo and arch linux up-to-date).
>>>
>>> I find that very strange since all of the initial development that I did was
>>> on a gentoo box. If I had to guess, I would say you are using
>>> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 to pull in masked packages...In which case, you are
>>> pulling in a development version of XCB and yes it will not build against
>>> that.
>>
>> Sorry for keeping the troll fed, but xcb-1.7 is on stable gentoo x86
>> as you can see on http://packages.gentoo.org/package/x11-libs/libxcb .
>> I'll rewrite the patch to make ecore_xcb work with both xcb<  1.7 and
>> xcb>= 1.7 so that it's fine for everyone.

New patch sounds good :) as long as it will build for both .. until such 
time that distros across the spectrum are all updated to development 
xcb. When that happens then we can stop supporting current stable xcb 
(0.3.6) and remove the legacy code :)

When you get your new patch(s) ready, send them out to the mailing list 
and I'll gladly have a look :)

Thanks,
dh

>
> Thanks Boris... this is very much appreciated.
>
>
>
> Lucas De Marchi
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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Ecore XCB

2011-07-31 Thread Christopher Michael
On 07/31/2011 07:35 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:32:46 -0400
> Christopher Michael  wrote:
>
>> On 07/31/2011 07:29 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote:
>>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:16:35 -0400
>>> Christopher Michael   wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 07/30/2011 06:36 PM, Boris Faure wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 01:10, Christopher Michael
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> […]
>>>>>> 2) It may not build on your system (tho it builds on all boxes I have
>>>>>> tried so far).
>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't build on my boxes (gentoo and arch linux up-to-date).
>>>> I find that very strange since all of the initial development that I did
>>>> was on a gentoo box. If I had to guess, I would say you are using
>>>> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 to pull in masked packages...In which case, you are
>>>> pulling in a development version of XCB and yes it will not build
>>>> against that.
>>>>
>>>>> I've got xcb 1.7 and it introduced a split up of xcb-util.
>>>>> I've attached a patch to make ecore_xcb compatible with xcb 1.7.
>>>>> I haven't committed it since it would break your setup.
>>>> While I appreciate the work/effort that went into your patch, I cannot
>>>> put it in svn because that would break building for normal distros that
>>>> use 'current' versions of xcb, not 'bleeding edge' versions. Most normal
>>>> distros are still shipping 0.3.6 version of the XCB libraries. When they
>>>> start shipping 0.3.8 by default, then I will gladly put this in svn, but
>>>> until then, it Cannot go in because while it may fix building for your
>>>> 'bleeding edge' setup, it breaks building for everyone else :(
>>>>
>>>> dh
>>>>
>>> IMO you may want to consider doing something like I have done with eeze and
>>> libmount: provide 2 versions of the relevant files with autoconf detection
>>> to determine which one actually gets compiled. This way you can support the
>>> legacy (0.3.6) version as well as the current (0.3.8) version, and everyone
>>> wins.
>>>
>> Yea, that's a thought...except that 0.3.6 is not legacy, it's the
>> 'current' version :) 0.3.8 is a 'development' version :)
>>
>> dh
>>
> Unless they're coming out with 0.3.6.1, 0.3.6.2, 0.3.6.3, etc, 0.3.6 is
> legacy :P
>
Well, call it whatever you want to. I am too damn tired to argue 
symantics. The point is, until standard distros start shipping 0.3.8 by 
default, then we have to build against 0.3.6. End of discussion.

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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Ecore XCB

2011-07-31 Thread Christopher Michael
On 07/31/2011 07:29 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:16:35 -0400
> Christopher Michael  wrote:
>
>> On 07/30/2011 06:36 PM, Boris Faure wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 01:10, Christopher Michael
>>>wrote:
>>> […]
>>>> 2) It may not build on your system (tho it builds on all boxes I have
>>>> tried so far).
>>>
>>> It doesn't build on my boxes (gentoo and arch linux up-to-date).
>> I find that very strange since all of the initial development that I did
>> was on a gentoo box. If I had to guess, I would say you are using
>> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 to pull in masked packages...In which case, you are
>> pulling in a development version of XCB and yes it will not build
>> against that.
>>
>>> I've got xcb 1.7 and it introduced a split up of xcb-util.
>>> I've attached a patch to make ecore_xcb compatible with xcb 1.7.
>>> I haven't committed it since it would break your setup.
>> While I appreciate the work/effort that went into your patch, I cannot
>> put it in svn because that would break building for normal distros that
>> use 'current' versions of xcb, not 'bleeding edge' versions. Most normal
>> distros are still shipping 0.3.6 version of the XCB libraries. When they
>> start shipping 0.3.8 by default, then I will gladly put this in svn, but
>> until then, it Cannot go in because while it may fix building for your
>> 'bleeding edge' setup, it breaks building for everyone else :(
>>
>> dh
>>
> IMO you may want to consider doing something like I have done with eeze and
> libmount: provide 2 versions of the relevant files with autoconf detection to
> determine which one actually gets compiled. This way you can support the 
> legacy
> (0.3.6) version as well as the current (0.3.8) version, and everyone wins.
>
Yea, that's a thought...except that 0.3.6 is not legacy, it's the 
'current' version :) 0.3.8 is a 'development' version :)

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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Ecore XCB

2011-07-31 Thread Christopher Michael
On 07/30/2011 06:36 PM, Boris Faure wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 01:10, Christopher Michael
>   wrote:
> […]
>> 2) It may not build on your system (tho it builds on all boxes I have
>> tried so far).
>
> It doesn't build on my boxes (gentoo and arch linux up-to-date).
I find that very strange since all of the initial development that I did 
was on a gentoo box. If I had to guess, I would say you are using 
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 to pull in masked packages...In which case, you are 
pulling in a development version of XCB and yes it will not build 
against that.

> I've got xcb 1.7 and it introduced a split up of xcb-util.
> I've attached a patch to make ecore_xcb compatible with xcb 1.7.
> I haven't committed it since it would break your setup.
While I appreciate the work/effort that went into your patch, I cannot 
put it in svn because that would break building for normal distros that 
use 'current' versions of xcb, not 'bleeding edge' versions. Most normal 
distros are still shipping 0.3.6 version of the XCB libraries. When they 
start shipping 0.3.8 by default, then I will gladly put this in svn, but 
until then, it Cannot go in because while it may fix building for your 
'bleeding edge' setup, it breaks building for everyone else :(

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Re: [e-users] E crashing on startup

2011-07-26 Thread Christopher Michael
On 07/26/11 15:15, Mark Dickie wrote:
> Using current svn. Ubuntu Natty.
>
> I've deleted all previous builds (nothing in /opt /usr/local), downloaded
> new source tree. and rebuilt. deleted .e/ and .cache/efreet.
>
> Compile using easy_e17 including debugging.
>
> from startx it crashes on the splash screen, so I ran it through Xephyr/gdb
>
> Xephyr :1.0
> EINA_LOG_LEVEL=3 ECORE_ERROR_ABORT=1 gdb enlightenment_start
> r -display :1.0 from inside gdb
>
> Stays at splash forever, gdb attached below
>
> Hope this means something to somebody :)
>
> I will gladly give /do whatever it takes to get my beloved E back
>
> Cheers

After a quick look here...seems to be some type of pthread 
issue...perhaps something todo w/ the system being 64bit. Sadly, I do 
not have much experience w/ pthread so I personally will not be able to 
help much, BUT:

You've got warnings all over the place here that may point someone else 
to a direction:

WRN<4886>:eet eet_lib.c:717 eet_init() YOU ARE USING PTHREADS, BUT I 
CANNOT INITIALIZE THREADSAFE GCRYPT OPERATIONS!

You're actual crash is happening when the Splash Shows up and E calls 
'pause' and waits for the Splash to signal it is ready so E can continue.

A 'work around' for now would be to disable Showing Splash @ startup. 
Granted, that does not fix the bug but it should allow you to use E again.

Since you cannot get into E to disable the setting, I would recommend 
the following procedure:

Take your e.cfg from the ~/.e/e/config/standard directory (assuming 
standard profile here). Decompile it with eet:

(eet -d e.cfg config e.src)

Edit the e.src file with a text editor. Look for:
value "show_splash" int: 1; and change that 1 to a 0.
Save the file.

Recompile your e.src into e.cfg:

(eet -e e.cfg config e.src 1)

Assuming you get this far, congrats :) You now have an e.cfg file 
without splash enabled. Make sure it is in ~/.e/e/config/standard 
(assuming standard profile), and then you can try to startup E again.

If all went well, you should be able to get back in now (until your 
bugger is sorted out anyway).

Cheers (and Good Luck),

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Re: [e-users] Ecore XCB

2011-07-12 Thread Christopher Michael


Sent from my iPod

On Jul 12, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Wido  wrote:

> I like note number 5 :P
> 
> 
> I have a question regarding XCB. Some time ago ( >6 months) I was able to
> compile XCB support in anything that had it. I remember I was ablo to pick
> XCB engine, and E didn't segfault, but it stoped displaying stuff like title
> bars and menus.
Yea,that could have been either xcb or elf. Those probes are gone :!

> Back tehn, I knew that XCB was more beta than E itself, but I never
> askedtitle bars were not displayed because of XCB?
May have been that or elf
> 
> Furthermore, what are the pro/cons in XCB (besides current stability)? I've
> read that XCB 'is faster' than X11 libs, but is that true? at what point?
> and what could be the benefits for us, end (power?) users?
> 
Faster, less memory used, etc. Will detail more later when @ keyboard

Dh

> thanks in advance
> 
> 2011/7/12 Mick 
> 
>> On Tuesday 12 Jul 2011 00:10:13 Christopher Michael wrote:
>>> Hi Lists,
>>> 
>>> This is just another email to let people know that Tuesday (tomorrow in
>>> EST), I will start the upload of the ecore changes to get XCB working,
>>> so expect some (hopefully minimal) svn breakage. I was going to do it
>>> today, but I thought I would send out an email warning to all and give
>>> people a day to grab a 'good' svn :)
>>> 
>>> For users, IF you are NOT 'current' with svn (for whatever reason) NOW
>>> would be a good time (before the breakage) ;)
>> 
>> Thank you for letting us know!
>> 
>> I'm all tanked up and good to run for a while now.  ;-)
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[e-users] Ecore XCB

2011-07-11 Thread Christopher Michael
Hi Lists,

This is just another email to let people know that Tuesday (tomorrow in 
EST), I will start the upload of the ecore changes to get XCB working, 
so expect some (hopefully minimal) svn breakage. I was going to do it 
today, but I thought I would send out an email warning to all and give 
people a day to grab a 'good' svn :)

For users, IF you are NOT 'current' with svn (for whatever reason) NOW 
would be a good time (before the breakage) ;)

You should be aware that ecore (with xcb) is still considered 'beta 
quality' and highly experimental !!! If you try to build EFL/E using the 
evas & ecore xcb stuff, please be aware:

1) It's not recommended for general use yet !!
2) It may not build on your system (tho it builds on all boxes I have 
tried so far).
3) Even if you do manage to get it built, E17 itself can NOT be run 
using it (requires e17 svn changes which will come later).
4) There is little to no support for any languages other than English 
(at the moment).
5) If it toasts your cpu, runs over your cat, kills your hamster, or 
does any other 'mean or harmful things' then you get to keep the pieces 
free of charge.remember, you were warned not to build it !! ;)

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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Evas XCB

2011-07-08 Thread Christopher Michael
On 07/08/11 11:11, Vincent Torri wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, Christopher Michael wrote:
>
>> Hi List(s),
>>
>> Some of you may have noticed I just committed the changes to Evas for
>> the new XCB Engine. It is currently disabled by default. You can enable
>> with --enable-software-xcb, but it is not currently 'usable' without the
>> proper code for ecore_x and E17 (both of which will come to svn soon),
>> so don't bother trying it just yet ;) I'll email the lists again when
>> things are 'usable'.
>
> the software-xcb code was working...
>
> Vincent
>
But not well enough and/or complete enough to function as a full-time 
engine. Along with these evas changes are a bunch of ecore_x changes 
(coming soon) that will finally allow the use of xcb as an engine for EFL/E

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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Evas XCB

2011-07-08 Thread Christopher Michael
On 07/08/11 05:01, Tom Hacohen wrote:
> On 08/07/11 03:23, Christopher Michael wrote:
>> Hi List(s),
>>
>> Some of you may have noticed I just committed the changes to Evas for
>> the new XCB Engine. It is currently disabled by default. You can enable
>> with --enable-software-xcb, but it is not currently 'usable' without the
>> proper code for ecore_x and E17 (both of which will come to svn soon),
>> so don't bother trying it just yet ;) I'll email the lists again when
>> things are 'usable'.
>
> Cool. :)
>
> Now we only have to wait for your ecore code...
>
> What changes are needed for E17 itself? I mean, doesn't it use ecore and
> thus should remain unchanged?
>
> --
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>
Well, in a perfect world Yes it should use just ecore, But the world is 
not perfect ;) The systray module needed changes because it was calling 
some xlib stuff directly, as was the e_alert code (and a couple other 
things also). All those changes are already done here locally, they just 
need a bit more testing then I can commit them.

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[e-users] Evas XCB

2011-07-07 Thread Christopher Michael
Hi List(s),

Some of you may have noticed I just committed the changes to Evas for 
the new XCB Engine. It is currently disabled by default. You can enable 
with --enable-software-xcb, but it is not currently 'usable' without the 
proper code for ecore_x and E17 (both of which will come to svn soon), 
so don't bother trying it just yet ;) I'll email the lists again when 
things are 'usable'.

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Re: [e-users] segv on e17 restarts

2011-07-04 Thread Christopher Michael
I had a similar problem earlier. I solved it by adding

export LANG=C

to my ~/.bashrc. Then logout and login again and it's gone ;)

dh


On 07/04/11 21:13, P Purkayastha wrote:
> Hi,
> I am getting segv on e17 restarts. Seems to have to do something with
> the language module.
>
> The gdb log is attached.
>
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Re: [e-users] Finger Friendly Main Menu

2011-06-23 Thread Christopher Michael
On 06/23/2011 05:07 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> I know E has been used on several smaller touch screen devices already - is
> there code hiding out there somewhere already for a more "finger friendly"
> main menu? The current one is very much designed for a mouse and is
> difficult to use via a touch screen only IMO.
>
Could check in the Settings Panel-->Look->Scaling and adjust the Scaling 
Factor. That should make the menu entries (and other items) larger 
(finger size) and easier to touch.

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Re: [e-users] Illume Keyboard Key Images Not Showing

2011-06-20 Thread Christopher Michael
On 06/20/2011 04:31 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Anyone else notice in recent builds that the images for things such as the
> arrow and enter keys on the illume keyboard are no longer showing?
>
Fixed in svn now :)

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Re: [e-users] keyboard questions

2011-06-12 Thread Christopher Michael
On 6/12/2011 9:03 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:04:55 -0600 daryl kuchay  said:
>
> the illume kbd really was meant for illume mode. i dont know if uare using the
> old illume (now deprecated and removed from svn) or illume2, but if you use
> illume2 and replace the illume home with elfe it works pretty well (atom
> tablet).
Tho that has no bearing on the vkbd itself. Regardless of what you use 
to launch apps, if you have the illume vkbd module loaded, you can get a 
vkbd fairly simply. There are calls that can be made (in several ways) 
to show the vkbd. There is even a 'toggle module' available to turn 
on/off the vkbd.

 >> Anyways my question is this: Can I call the Illume keyboard to the 
netbook
 >> profile while in session and make it disappear easily too? I have a hard
 >> button I usually script a xbkbd toggle to.
 >>
YES. Just have the illume-keyboard module loaded (regardless of 
profile), and you can use the 'kbd toggle' module to have a button that 
shows/hides is.

dh

>
> for build, why don't you get an sd card? cheap and lots of storage. an 8 or
> 16gb sd or micro sd is cheap and will give you mountains of space for not just
> build but other things. you could also use nfs. as such you dont NEED to build
> on the tablet. you could build using a chroot of the same distro setup on a
> desktop somewhere and then copy over the install tree when done to the tablet.
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> First let me express my appreciation for everyones hard work. E17 rocks. I
>> run a forum for some seriously old tablets. webdt.org. I love using e17 as
>> it outshines all other Desktop environments on the limited hardware.
>>
>> One question though. I need to use an on-screen keyboard as its a tablet.
>> The Illume profile is not as stable as the netbook profile. Please know that
>> these tablets have only 500 meg ssd's in them and I am stuck with installing
>> binaries as I have no space for build tools. That being said I may be using
>> an old Illume.
>>
>> If not has anyone messed with Mr Hastes EFL Keys? Its nice work but its also
>> unusable in current form. Too many missing keys.
>>
>> Any suggestions would be great. I hate using xvkbd as it scars all that E17
>> beauty. Thanks in advance.
>>
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Re: [e-users] Compositing Issue on Intel Chipsets with Recent Updates

2011-05-24 Thread Christopher Michael
On 05/24/2011 09:52 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Carsten -
>
> You where right.
You'll soon learn...he's always right, even when he's wrong he's still 
right ;)

dh


  Just built up the 2.15 intel driver and things are rolling
> better here now, no more screen tearing. However they are not letting me do
> OpenGL engine... From one bug onto the next!
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Carsten Haitzlerwrote:
>
>> On Wed, 18 May 2011 14:06:45 -0500 Jeff Hoogland
>> said:
>>
>> well:
>> libdrm-intel1
>>   2.4.23+git20110119.550fe2ca-0ubuntu0sarvatt~maverick
>> xserver-xorg-video-intel
>> 2.14.0+git20110220.9599fde6-0ubuntu0sarvatt~maverick
>> libglu1-mesa 7.9~git20100924-0ubuntu2
>>
>> on one system + whatever e+efl is in svn works a charm for me. :)
>>
>> if u think it's e - bisect back to some svn revision of efl+e where it goes
>> from buggy to not buggy, but i highly suspect at BEST e is TRIGGERING a
>> driver
>> bug rather than e/efl having a bug, but could be wrong. though... as i
>> can't
>> reproduce and all my testing shows it all to work like a charm... cqan you
>> do
>> more testing and investigation to find out just wherere/wher/how it goes
>> wrong?
>>
>>> How is it the drivers fault if the kernel (and all modules) stayed the
>> same?
>>> E is what changed... Plus trying different kernels results in the same.
>>>
>>> On Wed May 18 2011 01:56:12 PM CDT, hannes.janet...@gmail.com
>>>   wrote:
>>>
 On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Jeff Hoogland>>
 wrote:
> Anyone else having issues with compositing on Intel cards with recent
> updates? It was working 100% fine and then last week the updates
> started showing what the attached image is. All torn and cracked out
> looking...
>
> http://i.imgur.com/iRyrH.png
>
> Setting the system to use software render gives the same results.
>> Using
> OpenGL option was working just fine a few revisions ago.
>

 Intel drivers are breaking often. Get an older version or wait for a
>> new
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Re: [e-users] Disable Mouse Jumping to newly created Windows

2011-04-28 Thread Christopher Michael
On 04/28/2011 12:39 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Is there a way to disable E moving the mouse into a newly created
> window/popup?
>
Check the Window Focus settings. Should be one for moving the mouse.

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Re: [e-users] Is there a mail client written for E17?

2011-04-18 Thread Christopher Michael
On 04/18/2011 02:47 PM, Karl Sinn wrote:
>>> It would be really great to have one :)
>>
>> It certainly would :) but I don't see it happening anytime soon. The
>> webkit port of efl still needs lots of work :(
>
>
> Is there a way to motivate all the E17 heros (programmers) to focus on this
> for some time? ;)
>
> Karl

LOL :) Only thing I could think of would be a 'bounty' for getting it 
done ... but even then, it's more about the 'desire' & 'time available' :)

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Re: [e-users] Is there a mail client written for E17?

2011-04-18 Thread Christopher Michael
On 04/18/2011 11:50 AM, Karl Sinn wrote:
> Am Montag, 18. April 2011, 17:29:35 schrieb Christopher Michael:
>> Actually, I started one a while ago, but as it turns out the EFL port of
>> Webkit didn't support DOM at the time, so displaying html emails was not
>> viable at the time so I put development of it on hold.
>
> It would be really great to have one :)
>
It certainly would :) but I don't see it happening anytime soon. The 
webkit port of efl still needs lots of work :(

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Re: [e-users] Is there a mail client written for E17?

2011-04-18 Thread Christopher Michael
Actually, I started one a while ago, but as it turns out the EFL port of 
Webkit didn't support DOM at the time, so displaying html emails was not 
viable at the time so I put development of it on hold.

dh

On 04/18/2011 11:18 AM, Atton Jonathan wrote:
> no
>
> but peaople have some idea about how doing it but it ask time and nobody has
> free time :)
>
> 2011/4/18 Karl Sinn
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> is there a mail client written especially for E17?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Karl
>>
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Re: [e-users] Systray Issue

2011-04-08 Thread Christopher Michael
Should check here:

http://www.ubuntugeek.com/connection-manager-connman-managing-internet-connections-in-linux.html

grep 3G modems (about half way down the page)

Not exactly 'sure' that it works with every 3G modem (nor do I have one 
to test with), but it may work (ymmv)

dh

On 04/08/2011 02:53 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> WICD still has zero 3g modem support. I hate that everyone recommends that
> application to replace nm-applet when I specifically list the need for 3g
> modem support :-/
>
> ~Jeff Hoogland
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Mick  wrote:
>
>> On Friday 08 April 2011 19:26:46 Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>> Connman seriously lacks the interface for dealing with 3g modems that
>>> network manager provides - in fact nothing else I've used comes close
>> (work
>>> wifi+wired+wired). Same can be said for dropbox, it does a good job.
>>
>> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
>>
>>
>>> I'd just like to throw it out there that I never said the systray
>> protocol
>>> was good. This is however besides the point because the systray is very
>>> much necessary for *many* things to function. E is a great desktop, but
>> it
>>> needs to play nice with normal Linux applications and having a
>> functioning
>>> systray is needed for this. If Gnome, KDE, LXDE, and even Unity can
>> manage
>>> to piece together a functional one there is no reason the same can't be
>>> done with Enlightenment (the best desktop around).
>>
>> I know what Carsten is saying.  On my machine most KDE apps work fine in
>> the
>> systray, Opera is a bit of a hit&  miss.  Some other apps (can't recall
>> which
>> right now) don't even show up.
>>
>> I'm glad it works - when it does.  ;-)
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Re: [e-users] Gesture to Call Illume Keyboard

2011-03-16 Thread Christopher Michael
On 03/16/2011 05:18 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Is there a way currently to configure illume keyboard to appear when
> performing a defined gesture? The small button can be hard to hit on a touch
> screen sometimes and I think this is a better solution than having the
> keyboard auto appear whenever a user clicks into a typable field.
>
> If this isn't a feature - think we can get it added DH? :)
>
Sure...Patches Welcome !! :)

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Re: [e-users] Illume Top bar causes black in full screen programs

2011-01-19 Thread Christopher Michael
Be sure that illume-indicator (and all other illume2 modules) get 
recompiled. This was reported to me a while ago and promptly fixed:

http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/55133

dh

On 01/19/2011 05:55 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Really? The Enlightenment build I am using was compiled on the 15th of this
> month. I'll run update to today's SVN and see if that fixes things.
>
> ~Jeff
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Christopher Michael> wrote:
>
>> On 01/19/2011 05:37 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>
>>> When using an application "full screen" (such as xournal or libreoffice
>>> presentation) there is a black bar along the top of the screen where the
>>> Illume bar is normally at. Any way around this or is it intended this way?
>>>
>>> ~Jeff Hoogland
>>>
>>
>> Svn Update. This was fixed a while ago ;)
>>
>> dh
>>
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Re: [e-users] Illume Top bar causes black in full screen programs

2011-01-19 Thread Christopher Michael
On 01/19/2011 05:37 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> When using an application "full screen" (such as xournal or libreoffice
> presentation) there is a black bar along the top of the screen where the
> Illume bar is normally at. Any way around this or is it intended this way?
>
> ~Jeff Hoogland

Svn Update. This was fixed a while ago ;)

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Re: [e-users] How to disable shadow for wbar? (dock application)

2011-01-18 Thread Christopher Michael
On 01/19/2011 01:52 AM, Daniel - wrote:
> 2011/1/19 Christopher Michael:
>> On 01/19/2011 01:23 AM, Daniel - wrote:
>>>
>>> 2011/1/19 Christopher Michael:
>>>>
>>>> On 01/19/2011 12:49 AM, Daniel - wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you referring to this shadow ? : http://imgur.com/LtoiK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If so, I know what it is :P Had these same issues when gOS decided to
>>>>>> use
>>>>>> wbar years ago...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes i'm refering to that exactly.
>>>>> Any luck with it, then?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (IIRC - keep in mind it's been several years since then)
>>>>
>>>> The only way we could get rid of it at the time was to disable all
>>>> Compositing. This means no xcompmgr, etc, etc. Not sure if E's Composite
>>>> module would cause this issue or not as E's composite module was not
>>>> around
>>>> back then.
>>>>
>>>> dh
>>>>
>>>>
>>> AFAIK I don't have any compositing software installed except for the
>>> e17 module and that's disabled.
>>
>> May be worth a few seconds to run a 'ps aux' and see if there is xcompmgr or
>> something running.
>>
>>> Maybe I can get it (gOS) and see how it solves the issue?
>>>
>>
>> I doubt you would have any luck finding such an old version of gOS (by all
>> means you can try; I'm just saying it's pretty old).
>>
>> dh
>>
> No luck with ps.
> The current version of gOS does not feature E with wbar?
>
Oh Heck no :) That distro's been dead for a few years now.

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Re: [e-users] How to disable shadow for wbar? (dock application)

2011-01-18 Thread Christopher Michael
On 01/19/2011 01:23 AM, Daniel - wrote:
> 2011/1/19 Christopher Michael:
>> On 01/19/2011 12:49 AM, Daniel - wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are you referring to this shadow ? : http://imgur.com/LtoiK
>>>>
>>>> If so, I know what it is :P Had these same issues when gOS decided to use
>>>> wbar years ago...
>>>>
>>>> dh
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yes i'm refering to that exactly.
>>> Any luck with it, then?
>>>
>>
>> (IIRC - keep in mind it's been several years since then)
>>
>> The only way we could get rid of it at the time was to disable all
>> Compositing. This means no xcompmgr, etc, etc. Not sure if E's Composite
>> module would cause this issue or not as E's composite module was not around
>> back then.
>>
>> dh
>>
>>
> AFAIK I don't have any compositing software installed except for the
> e17 module and that's disabled.

May be worth a few seconds to run a 'ps aux' and see if there is 
xcompmgr or something running.

> Maybe I can get it (gOS) and see how it solves the issue?
>

I doubt you would have any luck finding such an old version of gOS (by 
all means you can try; I'm just saying it's pretty old).

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Re: [e-users] Running Applications List in Illume-Home

2011-01-18 Thread Christopher Michael
On 01/19/2011 01:12 AM, Christopher Michael wrote:
> On 01/19/2011 01:11 AM, P Purkayastha wrote:
>> On 01/19/2011 01:59 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
>>> On 01/19/2011 12:57 AM, P Purkayastha wrote:
>>>> On 01/19/2011 01:55 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
>>>>> On 01/19/2011 12:54 AM, P Purkayastha wrote:
>>>>>> On 01/19/2011 01:32 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
>>>>>>> On 01/19/2011 12:31 AM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>>>>> If creating a module with a button that does that is easy would you
>>>>>>>> mind
>>>>>>>> whipping it up for me DH? :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~Jeff Hoogland
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Certainly Could ... wouldn't be that hard and would take very little
>>>>>>> time...but, what's in it for me ? ;) :P
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A virtual beer and a virtual cookie? ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But, isn't there already a winselector module in E-MODULES-EXTRA,
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> does exactly that - pops up a list of open windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, there is currently the Window Switcher List module which is in
>>>>> core E (winlist module) ... but it doesn't integrate the way he wants
>>>>> wrt the illume indicator.
>>>>
>>>> I am talking about this module, which can be added to a shelf:
>>>>
>>>> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/E-MODULES-EXTRA/winselector
>>>>
>>>>
>>> O. No clue about that one, never used it, don't know what it looks
>>> like, how it behaves, etc, etc :)
>>
>> If you add it to a shelf, you will get a button. You click on that
>> button and you get a list of open windows. Just that simple. And that's
>> exactly what Jeff wants, imho. :)
>>
>
> Yea, sounds like it :) I wonder if that 'list of open windows' is done
> with an e_popup ? or an e_menu ? or something else...
>
> dh
>
Ahh, looking @ the source, it appears to use an e_menu.

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Re: [e-users] Running Applications List in Illume-Home

2011-01-18 Thread Christopher Michael
On 01/19/2011 01:11 AM, P Purkayastha wrote:
> On 01/19/2011 01:59 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
>> On 01/19/2011 12:57 AM, P Purkayastha wrote:
>>> On 01/19/2011 01:55 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
>>>> On 01/19/2011 12:54 AM, P Purkayastha wrote:
>>>>> On 01/19/2011 01:32 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
>>>>>> On 01/19/2011 12:31 AM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>>>> If creating a module with a button that does that is easy would you
>>>>>>> mind
>>>>>>> whipping it up for me DH? :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~Jeff Hoogland
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Certainly Could ... wouldn't be that hard and would take very little
>>>>>> time...but, what's in it for me ? ;) :P
>>>>>
>>>>> A virtual beer and a virtual cookie? ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> But, isn't there already a winselector module in E-MODULES-EXTRA,
>>>>> which
>>>>> does exactly that - pops up a list of open windows.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, there is currently the Window Switcher List module which is in
>>>> core E (winlist module) ... but it doesn't integrate the way he wants
>>>> wrt the illume indicator.
>>>
>>> I am talking about this module, which can be added to a shelf:
>>>
>>> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/E-MODULES-EXTRA/winselector
>>>
>>>
>> O. No clue about that one, never used it, don't know what it looks
>> like, how it behaves, etc, etc :)
>
> If you add it to a shelf, you will get a button. You click on that
> button and you get a list of open windows. Just that simple. And that's
> exactly what Jeff wants, imho. :)
>

Yea, sounds like it :) I wonder if that 'list of open windows' is done 
with an e_popup ? or an e_menu ? or something else...

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Re: [e-users] How to disable shadow for wbar? (dock application)

2011-01-18 Thread Christopher Michael
On 01/19/2011 12:49 AM, Daniel - wrote:
> 2011/1/19 Christopher Michael:
>> On 01/18/2011 11:54 PM, Daniel - wrote:
>>>
>>> http://imgur.com/kIqT0
>>> The shadow is made by plain e with the "dropshadow" module.
>>> BTW, i'm suspecting that i will need to turn off shadows or write some
>>> dirty hack to get the rid of it (if i figure how of course).
>>>
>>
>> Are you referring to this shadow ? : http://imgur.com/LtoiK
>>
>> If so, I know what it is :P Had these same issues when gOS decided to use
>> wbar years ago...
>>
>> dh
>>
>>
> Yes i'm refering to that exactly.
> Any luck with it, then?
>

(IIRC - keep in mind it's been several years since then)

The only way we could get rid of it at the time was to disable all 
Compositing. This means no xcompmgr, etc, etc. Not sure if E's Composite 
module would cause this issue or not as E's composite module was not 
around back then.

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Re: [e-users] Running Applications List in Illume-Home

2011-01-18 Thread Christopher Michael
On 01/19/2011 12:57 AM, P Purkayastha wrote:
> On 01/19/2011 01:55 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
>> On 01/19/2011 12:54 AM, P Purkayastha wrote:
>>> On 01/19/2011 01:32 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
>>>> On 01/19/2011 12:31 AM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>> If creating a module with a button that does that is easy would you
>>>>> mind
>>>>> whipping it up for me DH? :)
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Jeff Hoogland
>>>>>
>>>> Certainly Could ... wouldn't be that hard and would take very little
>>>> time...but, what's in it for me ? ;) :P
>>>
>>> A virtual beer and a virtual cookie? ;)
>>>
>>> But, isn't there already a winselector module in E-MODULES-EXTRA, which
>>> does exactly that - pops up a list of open windows.
>>>
>>
>> Well, there is currently the Window Switcher List module which is in
>> core E (winlist module) ... but it doesn't integrate the way he wants
>> wrt the illume indicator.
>
> I am talking about this module, which can be added to a shelf:
>
> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/E-MODULES-EXTRA/winselector
>
O. No clue about that one, never used it, don't know what it looks 
like, how it behaves, etc, etc :)

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Re: [e-users] Running Applications List in Illume-Home

2011-01-18 Thread Christopher Michael
On 01/19/2011 12:31 AM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> If creating a module with a button that does that is easy would you mind
> whipping it up for me DH? :)
>
> ~Jeff Hoogland
>
Certainly Could ... wouldn't be that hard and would take very little 
time...but, what's in it for me ? ;) :P

dh

> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Christopher Michael<
> cpmicha...@comcast.net>  wrote:
>
>> On 01/19/2011 12:23 AM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>
>>> Been playing around with the Illume profiles on my tablet computer and
>>> over
>>> all I like Illume-Home better than the default Illume profile. One thing I
>>> am finding lacking (or maybe just not finding) in Illume-Home is something
>>> that displays a list of currently running applications to easily switch
>>> between. Under Illume there was a button to press to list all of them -
>>> can
>>> this be added to Illume-Home some how?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> ~Jeff Hoogland
>>>
>>
>> Sure. There are a couple of routes to go with this ... you could turn on
>> the Window Switcher List module (Modules-->Core-->Window Switcher List).
>> With that you can then do Alt-Tab to bring up/switch windows via the window
>> list. OR you could easily create an illume-windowlist module that provides a
>> button on the Illume Indicator bar, and clicking that button could dropdown
>> a popup with a list of running windows...
>>
>> dh
>>
>>
>>


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Re: [e-users] Running Applications List in Illume-Home

2011-01-18 Thread Christopher Michael
On 01/19/2011 12:23 AM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Been playing around with the Illume profiles on my tablet computer and over
> all I like Illume-Home better than the default Illume profile. One thing I
> am finding lacking (or maybe just not finding) in Illume-Home is something
> that displays a list of currently running applications to easily switch
> between. Under Illume there was a button to press to list all of them - can
> this be added to Illume-Home some how?
>
> Cheers,
> ~Jeff Hoogland

Sure. There are a couple of routes to go with this ... you could turn on 
the Window Switcher List module (Modules-->Core-->Window Switcher List). 
With that you can then do Alt-Tab to bring up/switch windows via the 
window list. OR you could easily create an illume-windowlist module that 
provides a button on the Illume Indicator bar, and clicking that button 
could dropdown a popup with a list of running windows...

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Re: [e-users] How to disable shadow for wbar? (dock application)

2011-01-18 Thread Christopher Michael
On 01/18/2011 11:54 PM, Daniel - wrote:
> 2011/1/19 Carsten Haitzler:
>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 23:24:31 -0200 Daniel -  said:
>>
>>> I am using just dropshadow.
>>> Screenshot attached. The shadow is at the right of the thing.
>>
>> can you send a url instead (use imgur or something)
>>
>> --
>> - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" --
>> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com
>>
>
> http://imgur.com/kIqT0
> The shadow is made by plain e with the "dropshadow" module.
> BTW, i'm suspecting that i will need to turn off shadows or write some
> dirty hack to get the rid of it (if i figure how of course).
>

Are you referring to this shadow ? : http://imgur.com/LtoiK

If so, I know what it is :P Had these same issues when gOS decided to 
use wbar years ago...

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Re: [e-users] How to disable shadow for wbar? (dock application)

2011-01-18 Thread Christopher Michael
On 01/18/2011 03:31 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 05:12:51 -0200 Daniel -  said:
>
>> I just built E17 from the sources in the download page, but when i
>> lauch wbar (a Mac-like dock) i get a shadow in the right side (but no
>> other borders). Do any of you know how to disable the shadow for this
>> single application? I cant find anything in the menus.
>
> that depends - what is drawing the shadow?
>
>
IIRC from several years ago, I think wbar has an option (cli switch) to 
not draw the shadow.

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Re: [e-users] Stream Lining Default Profile E Setup

2011-01-13 Thread Christopher Michael
e/trunk/e/src/modules/wizard/page_*.c :)

dh

On 01/13/2011 02:03 AM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Thats fantastic. How would I go about making edits to the Wizard module
> then? Is it in the source code for Enlightenment somewhere or am I editing
> files that reside in */usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/wizard*
>
> Cheers,
> ~Jeff
>
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Carsten Haitzlerwrote:
>
>> On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:17:18 -0600 Jeff Hoogland
>> said:
>>
>>> I was wondering if it is possible to stream line the process you go
>> through
>>> when starting up E with the default profile. I would like to trim a few
>> of
>>> the options out (set just standard defaults for them) and I am also
>>> wondering why half of the applications in the ibar selection do not
>> display
>>> icons - is there a way to pre-define an icon set for E to use so there
>> are
>>> not just blank spaces at startup?
>>>
>>> Going to go decompile the default theme now to see it's ins ands outs,
>> just
>>> figured I drop a message here for some input from others :)
>>
>> wizard is very boring and generic. it is made up of sub-modules with a
>> general
>> wizard infra - look at the page* stuff in the wizard module. they re run in
>> numeric order. each page implements one of the wizard pages. you can have
>> invisible pages that just do something then move on. the pages provided by
>> default are not polished nore "perfect for everyone". they are meant to be
>> an
>> introduction on how an integrator, like yourself, could write their own
>> pages
>> for their os/distribution to provide that "first login" series of setup
>> stuff.
>> the idea is you'd remove the pages e builds in the installed package of e
>> and
>> in their place provide your own set. :) maybe we could change the build
>> tree to
>> have multiple pagesets in the end - as different distros/os's develop their
>> own
>> pagesets and so when you compile and install you select a specific pageset
>> (or
>> just get a default one). but right now there are no pagesets other than the
>> default.
>>
>>
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>> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com
>>
>>

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Re: [e-users] Building Enna Media Center Issue

2011-01-11 Thread Christopher Michael
On 01/11/2011 09:18 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Trying to build enna media center (based on elf) from source and it is
> giving me this error message with latest SVN build of everything E (as of
> last night)
>
> http://pastebin.com/nJpuF9tk
>
> Ideas? Looks like an elementary issue to me but I am not 100% on that.
>
> ~Jeff Hoogland

Just rebuilt efl from svn, and elementary builds just fine. Looks like 
the enna code has not been updated for recent elm changesso this 
isn't an EFL Svn issue, it's an Enna issue. I'd send an email to them if 
I were you ;)

dh

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Re: [e-users] Problem getting X Window ID.

2011-01-06 Thread Christopher Michael
On 01/06/2011 05:32 PM, Nicolas wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm using Ecore_X and I'm trying to get the X window ID of the Ecore_Window.
>
> I do:
>
> int pm;
> ecore_x_window_prop_xid_get(mywindow, NULL, NULL,&pm, 1);
>
> pm is not null but it doesn't seem to work.
> Is this the correct way ?
>
> Ecore_X api is:
> ecore_x_window_prop_xid_get(Ecore_X_Window win, Ecore_X_Atom atom,
> Ecore_X_Atom type, Ecore_X_ID *lst, unsigned int len);
>
> I don't know what to write in "Ecore_X_Atom atom" and "Ecore_X_Atom type"...
>
> Thanks in advance for reply.
> Nicolas.
>

ecore_x_window_new already returns the X Window Id:

Ecore_X_Window win;
win = ecore_x_window_new(NULL, 0, 0, 100, 100);

Here, win is the X Window Id. ecore_x_window_new uses XCreateWindow, 
which returns the id, so no reason to do a window_prop_xid_get really.

"The XCreateWindow function creates an unmapped subwindow for a 
specified parent window, returns the window ID of the created window"

You should avoid fetching window props & atoms as much as possible 
because most (if not all) are "round-trip" requests.

Someone feel free to correct me if I am wrong here.

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Re: [e-users] Change theme from command line

2011-01-01 Thread Christopher Michael
Yup, you are missing 'config' in the middle:

eet -d e.cfg config e.src

dh

On 01/01/2011 10:25 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Hrm. eet -d is throwing me the syntax like I am doing something wrong. Any
> ideas what I am missing here?
>
> j...@sager-bodhi:~$ eet -d /home/jeff.e/e/config/Bodhi/e.cfg e.src
> Usage:
>eet -l FILE.EET list all keys in FILE.EET
>eet -x FILE.EET KEY OUT-FILE [CRYPTO_KEY]  extract data stored in
> KEY in FILE.EET and write to OUT-FILE
>eet -d FILE.EET KEY OUT-FILE [CRYPTO_KEY]  extract and decode data
> stored in KEY in FILE.EET and write to OUT-FILE
>eet -i FILE.EET KEY IN-FILE COMPRESS [CRYPTO_KEY]  insert data to KEY in
> FILE.EET from IN-FILE and if COMPRESS is 1, compress it
>eet -e FILE.EET KEY IN-FILE COMPRESS [CRYPTO_KEY]  insert and encode to
> KEY in FILE.EET from IN-FILE and if COMPRESS is 1, compress it
>eet -r FILE.EET KEYremove KEY in FILE.EET
>eet -c FILE.EETreport and check the
> signature information of an eet file
>eet -s FILE.EET PRIVATE_KEY PUBLIC_KEY sign FILE.EET with
> PRIVATE_KEY and attach PUBLIC_KEY as it's certificate
> j...@sager-bodhi:~$ ls .e/e/config/Bodhi
> e.cfg
>
> ~Jeff
>
> On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Christopher Michael
> wrote:
>
>> A 2nd option would be to make a dbus method for changing the theme via the
>> new 'enlightenment_remote' tool and send it to the dev mailing list for svn
>> commit.
>>
>> dh
>>
>>
>> On 01/01/2011 10:12 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
>>
>>> HAHAHA, Ok but keep in mind this is in no way "official", and will
>>> require a bit of work in your script (not to mention is incredibly
>>> hackish) ;)
>>>
>>> Basically, what you are going to do is decompile the existing e.cfg file
>>> (usually in ~/.e/e/config/standard/e.cfg) using eet:
>>>
>>> 'eet -d /path/to/e.cfg config /path/to/temporary/e.src'
>>>
>>> This will output the current E config settings into a text file called
>>> e.src. Now you can run a 'sed' or something on e.src and replace the
>>> theme filename. What you are looking for in the e.src file is something
>>> like this:
>>>
>>>   group "themes" list {
>>>   group "E_Config_Theme" struct {
>>>   value "category" string: "theme";
>>>   value "file" string:
>>> "/usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/default.edj";
>>>   }
>>>   }
>>>
>>> Just sed the "file" line with the new theme, and save the file.
>>>
>>> Now you need to recompile it into binary:
>>>
>>> 'eet -e /path/to/e.cfg config /path/to/e.src 1'
>>>
>>> Restart E (assuming the new e.cfg is still in the standard place) and
>>> done. Should work ... in theory ;)
>>>
>>> dh
>>>
>>> On 01/01/2011 10:04 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll take ghetto and hackish. Never was one to argue with results ;)
>>>>
>>>> ~Jeff
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Christopher Michael
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   On 01/01/2011 09:38 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Yes I know about this command - but as you said it does not do very
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> more. Is there really no way to do this they? I am working on a script
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> change both GTK and Enlightenment theme at the same time so they can
>>>>>> match.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Christopher Michael
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 01/01/2011 08:09 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Is there a command I can run from the CLI to change E theme?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> ~Jeff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Back in the good old days, yes there was. It was called
>>>>>>> 'enlightenment_remote' . That same tool exists today, but is in a much
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> limited (and limiting) form and only uses dbus calls these days :( A
>>>>>>> quick
>>>>>>> '--help' of the current 'enlightenment_remote' tool shows that it's
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> possible to change the theme (or much of anything else) anymore :(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Correct. There is no other 'nice' way to do it :(
>>>>>
>>>>> I can offer a 'not so nice'&'hackish' way for you todo it if really
>>>>> really really needed ;) BUT it's fairly ghetto
>>>>>
>>>>> dh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
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Re: [e-users] Change theme from command line

2011-01-01 Thread Christopher Michael
A 2nd option would be to make a dbus method for changing the theme via 
the new 'enlightenment_remote' tool and send it to the dev mailing list 
for svn commit.

dh

On 01/01/2011 10:12 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
> HAHAHA, Ok but keep in mind this is in no way "official", and will
> require a bit of work in your script (not to mention is incredibly
> hackish) ;)
>
> Basically, what you are going to do is decompile the existing e.cfg file
> (usually in ~/.e/e/config/standard/e.cfg) using eet:
>
> 'eet -d /path/to/e.cfg config /path/to/temporary/e.src'
>
> This will output the current E config settings into a text file called
> e.src. Now you can run a 'sed' or something on e.src and replace the
> theme filename. What you are looking for in the e.src file is something
> like this:
>
>   group "themes" list {
>   group "E_Config_Theme" struct {
>   value "category" string: "theme";
>   value "file" string:
> "/usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/default.edj";
>   }
>   }
>
> Just sed the "file" line with the new theme, and save the file.
>
> Now you need to recompile it into binary:
>
> 'eet -e /path/to/e.cfg config /path/to/e.src 1'
>
> Restart E (assuming the new e.cfg is still in the standard place) and
> done. Should work ... in theory ;)
>
> dh
>
> On 01/01/2011 10:04 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>> I'll take ghetto and hackish. Never was one to argue with results ;)
>>
>> ~Jeff
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Christopher Michael
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/01/2011 09:38 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes I know about this command - but as you said it does not do very much
>>>> any
>>>> more. Is there really no way to do this they? I am working on a script to
>>>> change both GTK and Enlightenment theme at the same time so they can
>>>> match.
>>>>
>>>> ~Jeff
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Christopher Michael
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>On 01/01/2011 08:09 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Is there a command I can run from the CLI to change E theme?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> ~Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Back in the good old days, yes there was. It was called
>>>>> 'enlightenment_remote' . That same tool exists today, but is in a much
>>>>> more
>>>>> limited (and limiting) form and only uses dbus calls these days :( A
>>>>> quick
>>>>> '--help' of the current 'enlightenment_remote' tool shows that it's not
>>>>> possible to change the theme (or much of anything else) anymore :(
>>>>>
>>>>> dh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> Correct. There is no other 'nice' way to do it :(
>>>
>>> I can offer a 'not so nice'&   'hackish' way for you todo it if really
>>> really really needed ;) BUT it's fairly ghetto
>>>
>>> dh
>>>
>>>


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Re: [e-users] Change theme from command line

2011-01-01 Thread Christopher Michael
HAHAHA, Ok but keep in mind this is in no way "official", and will 
require a bit of work in your script (not to mention is incredibly 
hackish) ;)

Basically, what you are going to do is decompile the existing e.cfg file 
(usually in ~/.e/e/config/standard/e.cfg) using eet:

'eet -d /path/to/e.cfg config /path/to/temporary/e.src'

This will output the current E config settings into a text file called 
e.src. Now you can run a 'sed' or something on e.src and replace the 
theme filename. What you are looking for in the e.src file is something 
like this:

 group "themes" list {
 group "E_Config_Theme" struct {
 value "category" string: "theme";
 value "file" string: 
"/usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/default.edj";
 }
 }

Just sed the "file" line with the new theme, and save the file.

Now you need to recompile it into binary:

'eet -e /path/to/e.cfg config /path/to/e.src 1'

Restart E (assuming the new e.cfg is still in the standard place) and 
done. Should work ... in theory ;)

dh

On 01/01/2011 10:04 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> I'll take ghetto and hackish. Never was one to argue with results ;)
>
> ~Jeff
>
> On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Christopher Michael
> wrote:
>
>> On 01/01/2011 09:38 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>
>>> Yes I know about this command - but as you said it does not do very much
>>> any
>>> more. Is there really no way to do this they? I am working on a script to
>>> change both GTK and Enlightenment theme at the same time so they can
>>> match.
>>>
>>> ~Jeff
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Christopher Michael
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   On 01/01/2011 08:09 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Is there a command I can run from the CLI to change E theme?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> ~Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Back in the good old days, yes there was. It was called
>>>> 'enlightenment_remote' . That same tool exists today, but is in a much
>>>> more
>>>> limited (and limiting) form and only uses dbus calls these days :( A
>>>> quick
>>>> '--help' of the current 'enlightenment_remote' tool shows that it's not
>>>> possible to change the theme (or much of anything else) anymore :(
>>>>
>>>> dh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> Correct. There is no other 'nice' way to do it :(
>>
>> I can offer a 'not so nice'&  'hackish' way for you todo it if really
>> really really needed ;) BUT it's fairly ghetto
>>
>> dh
>>
>>
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Re: [e-users] Change theme from command line

2011-01-01 Thread Christopher Michael
On 01/01/2011 09:38 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Yes I know about this command - but as you said it does not do very much any
> more. Is there really no way to do this they? I am working on a script to
> change both GTK and Enlightenment theme at the same time so they can match.
>
> ~Jeff
>
> On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Christopher Michael
> wrote:
>
>> On 01/01/2011 08:09 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a command I can run from the CLI to change E theme?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> ~Jeff
>>>
>>
>> Back in the good old days, yes there was. It was called
>> 'enlightenment_remote' . That same tool exists today, but is in a much more
>> limited (and limiting) form and only uses dbus calls these days :( A quick
>> '--help' of the current 'enlightenment_remote' tool shows that it's not
>> possible to change the theme (or much of anything else) anymore :(
>>
>> dh
>>
>

Correct. There is no other 'nice' way to do it :(

I can offer a 'not so nice' & 'hackish' way for you todo it if really 
really really needed ;) BUT it's fairly ghetto

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Re: [e-users] Change theme from command line

2011-01-01 Thread Christopher Michael
On 01/01/2011 08:09 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Is there a command I can run from the CLI to change E theme?
>
> Cheers,
> ~Jeff

Back in the good old days, yes there was. It was called 
'enlightenment_remote' . That same tool exists today, but is in a much 
more limited (and limiting) form and only uses dbus calls these days :( 
A quick '--help' of the current 'enlightenment_remote' tool shows that 
it's not possible to change the theme (or much of anything else) anymore :(

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Re: [e-users] tclock module and 12 hour clock instead of 24 hour

2010-12-27 Thread Christopher Michael
On 12/27/2010 03:28 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote:
> On Dec 27, 2010, at 1:51 PM, Jeff Hoogland
> wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to make the tclock module display the time using the
>> 12 hour
>> format instead of the 24 hour format it uses by default?
>
> I'm on the road, but yes I have done this; I believe it's in the
> system settings... somewhere :-)
>
> C Anthony [mobile]
>

Yes. Configure the tclock settings. You can use any setting that 
strftime supports. I personally use: %I:%M %P

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Re: [e-users] Cannot Re-Order ibar applications

2010-12-26 Thread Christopher Michael
On 12/26/2010 03:31 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Using a recent E build (less than a week old) and reordering my the contents
> of my ibar no longer has any affect after hitting the apply button. Any idea
> why this is? I'll try updating my build later this afternoon and see if that
> resolves it - but in the mean time any suggestions?
>
> Regards,
> ~Jeff Hoogland
> --

Yea, update your build. This was fixed a few days ago.

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Re: [e-users] Theme Foobaring Virtual Desktop Settings

2010-12-25 Thread Christopher Michael
On 12/25/2010 02:33 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Anyone know what in my theme would be causing my virtual desktop settings to
> look like this - http://imgur.com/grqjO.png - instead of showing the normal
> virtual desktop options - http://imgur.com/7Vqkp.png
>
>
> Regards,
> ~Jeff Hoogland

Looks like you may be missing the theme for e_widget_deskpreview. Group 
"e/widgets/deskpreview/desk" ... if it's not missing, then perhaps the 
widget is themed too large or something and just won't fit.

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Re: [e-users] Theme Foobaring Virtual Desktop Settings

2010-12-25 Thread Christopher Michael
On 12/25/2010 02:33 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Anyone know what in my theme would be causing my virtual desktop settings to
> look like this - http://imgur.com/grqjO.png - instead of showing the normal
> virtual desktop options - http://imgur.com/7Vqkp.png
>
>
> Regards,
> ~Jeff Hoogland

Looks like you may be missing the theme for e_widget_deskpreview. Group 
"e/widgets/deskpreview/desk" ... if it's not missing, then perhaps the 
widget is themed too large or something and just won't fit.

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Re: [e-users] Themeing Taskbar Module

2010-12-21 Thread Christopher Michael
Could be a few things. If you want to send me the edj, I'll have a look.

dh

On 12/21/2010 03:44 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Build file runs
>
> edje_cc $@ -id . -fd . taskbar.edc -o taskbar.edj
>
> Think of anything else that may be causing an issue?
>
> ~Jeff
>
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Christopher Michael> wrote:
>
>> Well, I would guess that build.sh already does edje_cc (most of the
>> build.sh scripts do).
>>
>> dh
>>
>>
>> On 12/21/2010 03:42 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>
>>> So I just need to
>>>
>>> edje_cc taskbar.edc
>>>
>>> and then run my build.sh file?
>>>
>>> ~Jeff
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Christopher Michael<
>>> cpmicha...@comcast.net
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>   As long as you kept the same image filenames, no. All the would require
>>>> is
>>>> a recompile of the edc (edje_cc). If you changed the filenames, then yes
>>>> you
>>>> would have to edit the edc and replace all instances of those filenames.
>>>>
>>>> dh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/21/2010 03:35 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   I didn't even touch the existing one as I left everything the same other
>>>>> than changing some of the colors of the .png files. Would that require
>>>>> edits
>>>>> to the .edc file?
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Jeff Hoogland
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Christopher Michael<
>>>>> cpmicha...@comcast.net
>>>>>
>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>   Probably missing some key parts in the edc. Did you just edit the
>>>>>
>>>>>> existing
>>>>>> one ? or did you make your own ??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/21/2010 03:29 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   So I have decompiled the taskbar module, I edited the colors of the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> three
>>>>>>> images within the decomp and then ran the build.sh to create a new
>>>>>>> .edj
>>>>>>> file. However when I load this new taskbar module I have created and
>>>>>>> add
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> to a shelf/desktop it does not show any of my opened applications! Any
>>>>>>> ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~Jeff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Christopher Michael<
>>>>>>> cpmicha...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   edje_decc /some/path/my.edj will decompile the theme.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> now you edit the 'edc' files, then recompile it w/ edje_cc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (--help works w/ most term apps ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> dh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/19/2010 11:34 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Found the .edj file (/usr/lib/enlightenment) how do I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   decompile/recompile
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> now?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ~Jeff
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Christopher Michael<
>>>>>>>>> cpmicha...@comcast.net>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   On 12/19/2010 11:28 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Where is that located? In /usr/share/enlightenment somewhere?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>That would be the first to check (Depending on your module
>>>>>>>>>>> install
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>

Re: [e-users] Themeing Taskbar Module

2010-12-21 Thread Christopher Michael
Well, I would guess that build.sh already does edje_cc (most of the 
build.sh scripts do).

dh

On 12/21/2010 03:42 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> So I just need to
>
> edje_cc taskbar.edc
>
> and then run my build.sh file?
>
> ~Jeff
>
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Christopher Michael> wrote:
>
>> As long as you kept the same image filenames, no. All the would require is
>> a recompile of the edc (edje_cc). If you changed the filenames, then yes you
>> would have to edit the edc and replace all instances of those filenames.
>>
>> dh
>>
>>
>> On 12/21/2010 03:35 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>
>>> I didn't even touch the existing one as I left everything the same other
>>> than changing some of the colors of the .png files. Would that require
>>> edits
>>> to the .edc file?
>>>
>>> ~Jeff Hoogland
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Christopher Michael<
>>> cpmicha...@comcast.net
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>   Probably missing some key parts in the edc. Did you just edit the
>>>> existing
>>>> one ? or did you make your own ??
>>>>
>>>> dh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/21/2010 03:29 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   So I have decompiled the taskbar module, I edited the colors of the
>>>>> three
>>>>> images within the decomp and then ran the build.sh to create a new .edj
>>>>> file. However when I load this new taskbar module I have created and add
>>>>> it
>>>>> to a shelf/desktop it does not show any of my opened applications! Any
>>>>> ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Christopher Michael<
>>>>> cpmicha...@comcast.net>    wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   edje_decc /some/path/my.edj will decompile the theme.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> now you edit the 'edc' files, then recompile it w/ edje_cc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (--help works w/ most term apps ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/19/2010 11:34 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Found the .edj file (/usr/lib/enlightenment) how do I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> decompile/recompile
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> now?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~Jeff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Christopher Michael<
>>>>>>> cpmicha...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   On 12/19/2010 11:28 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Where is that located? In /usr/share/enlightenment somewhere?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   That would be the first to check (Depending on your module install
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   prefix). You are looking for the taskbar Theme edc/edj.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~/.e/e/modules/taskbar/something.edj ?? ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> dh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   ~Jeff
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Christopher Michael<
>>>>>>>>> cpmicha...@comcast.net>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Look into the taskbar edc/edj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   dh
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/2010 03:42 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   Howdy all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I was wondering how one would go about themeing the taskbar
>>>>>>>>>>> module.
>>>>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>

Re: [e-users] Themeing Taskbar Module

2010-12-21 Thread Christopher Michael
As long as you kept the same image filenames, no. All the would require 
is a recompile of the edc (edje_cc). If you changed the filenames, then 
yes you would have to edit the edc and replace all instances of those 
filenames.

dh

On 12/21/2010 03:35 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> I didn't even touch the existing one as I left everything the same other
> than changing some of the colors of the .png files. Would that require edits
> to the .edc file?
>
> ~Jeff Hoogland
>
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Christopher Michael> wrote:
>
>> Probably missing some key parts in the edc. Did you just edit the existing
>> one ? or did you make your own ??
>>
>> dh
>>
>>
>> On 12/21/2010 03:29 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>
>>> So I have decompiled the taskbar module, I edited the colors of the three
>>> images within the decomp and then ran the build.sh to create a new .edj
>>> file. However when I load this new taskbar module I have created and add
>>> it
>>> to a shelf/desktop it does not show any of my opened applications! Any
>>> ideas?
>>>
>>> ~Jeff
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Christopher Michael<
>>> cpmicha...@comcast.net>   wrote:
>>>
>>>   edje_decc /some/path/my.edj will decompile the theme.
>>>>
>>>> now you edit the 'edc' files, then recompile it w/ edje_cc
>>>>
>>>> (--help works w/ most term apps ;)
>>>>
>>>> dh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/19/2010 11:34 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Found the .edj file (/usr/lib/enlightenment) how do I
>>>>> decompile/recompile
>>>>> it
>>>>> now?
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Christopher Michael<
>>>>> cpmicha...@comcast.net>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   On 12/19/2010 11:28 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Where is that located? In /usr/share/enlightenment somewhere?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   That would be the first to check (Depending on your module install
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   prefix). You are looking for the taskbar Theme edc/edj.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~/.e/e/modules/taskbar/something.edj ?? ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   ~Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Christopher Michael<
>>>>>>> cpmicha...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Look into the taskbar edc/edj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> dh
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/19/2010 03:42 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Howdy all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was wondering how one would go about themeing the taskbar module.
>>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   like
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   to change the colors from active/inactive applications to something
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>> than white+black
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ~Jeff
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [e-users] Themeing Taskbar Module

2010-12-21 Thread Christopher Michael
Probably missing some key parts in the edc. Did you just edit the 
existing one ? or did you make your own ??

dh

On 12/21/2010 03:29 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> So I have decompiled the taskbar module, I edited the colors of the three
> images within the decomp and then ran the build.sh to create a new .edj
> file. However when I load this new taskbar module I have created and add it
> to a shelf/desktop it does not show any of my opened applications! Any
> ideas?
>
> ~Jeff
>
> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Christopher Michael<
> cpmicha...@comcast.net>  wrote:
>
>> edje_decc /some/path/my.edj will decompile the theme.
>>
>> now you edit the 'edc' files, then recompile it w/ edje_cc
>>
>> (--help works w/ most term apps ;)
>>
>> dh
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/19/2010 11:34 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>
>>> Found the .edj file (/usr/lib/enlightenment) how do I decompile/recompile
>>> it
>>> now?
>>>
>>> ~Jeff
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Christopher Michael<
>>> cpmicha...@comcast.net>   wrote:
>>>
>>>   On 12/19/2010 11:28 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Where is that located? In /usr/share/enlightenment somewhere?
>>>>>
>>>>>   That would be the first to check (Depending on your module install
>>>>>
>>>> prefix). You are looking for the taskbar Theme edc/edj.
>>>>
>>>> ~/.e/e/modules/taskbar/something.edj ?? ;)
>>>>
>>>> dh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   ~Jeff
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Christopher Michael<
>>>>> cpmicha...@comcast.net>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Look into the taskbar edc/edj
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/19/2010 03:42 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Howdy all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was wondering how one would go about themeing the taskbar module.
>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   like
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   to change the colors from active/inactive applications to something
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> than white+black
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~Jeff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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Re: [e-users] Themeing Taskbar Module

2010-12-19 Thread Christopher Michael
edje_decc /some/path/my.edj will decompile the theme.

now you edit the 'edc' files, then recompile it w/ edje_cc 

(--help works w/ most term apps ;)

dh


On 12/19/2010 11:34 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Found the .edj file (/usr/lib/enlightenment) how do I decompile/recompile it
> now?
>
> ~Jeff
>
> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Christopher Michael<
> cpmicha...@comcast.net>  wrote:
>
>> On 12/19/2010 11:28 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>
>>> Where is that located? In /usr/share/enlightenment somewhere?
>>>
>>>   That would be the first to check (Depending on your module install
>> prefix). You are looking for the taskbar Theme edc/edj.
>>
>> ~/.e/e/modules/taskbar/something.edj ?? ;)
>>
>> dh
>>
>>
>>   ~Jeff
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Christopher Michael<
>>> cpmicha...@comcast.net>   wrote:
>>>
>>>   Look into the taskbar edc/edj
>>>>
>>>> dh
>>>>
>>>> On 12/19/2010 03:42 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Howdy all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was wondering how one would go about themeing the taskbar module. I'd
>>>>>
>>>> like
>>>>
>>>>> to change the colors from active/inactive applications to something
>>>>> other
>>>>> than white+black
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Jeff
>>>>>
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Re: [e-users] Themeing Taskbar Module

2010-12-19 Thread Christopher Michael
On 12/19/2010 11:28 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Where is that located? In /usr/share/enlightenment somewhere?
>
That would be the first to check (Depending on your module install 
prefix). You are looking for the taskbar Theme edc/edj.

~/.e/e/modules/taskbar/something.edj ?? ;)

dh

> ~Jeff
>
> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Christopher Michael<
> cpmicha...@comcast.net>  wrote:
>
>> Look into the taskbar edc/edj
>>
>> dh
>>
>> On 12/19/2010 03:42 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>>> Howdy all,
>>>
>>> I was wondering how one would go about themeing the taskbar module. I'd
>> like
>>> to change the colors from active/inactive applications to something other
>>> than white+black
>>>
>>> ~Jeff
>>>
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Re: [e-users] Themeing Taskbar Module

2010-12-19 Thread Christopher Michael
Look into the taskbar edc/edj

dh

On 12/19/2010 03:42 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> Howdy all,
>
> I was wondering how one would go about themeing the taskbar module. I'd like
> to change the colors from active/inactive applications to something other
> than white+black
>
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Re: [e-users] never mind the pidgin

2010-11-23 Thread Christopher Michael
On 11/23/2010 07:12 PM, Larry wrote:
> I figured it out finally, thanks.
>
Ahh excellent. Was it a missing systray module ?? or was it something 
pidgin related ??

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Re: [e-users] Where does the pidgin go??

2010-11-23 Thread Christopher Michael
Try the systray module. Load the module and add it to a shelf. Your 
pidgin should show up then.

dh

On 11/23/2010 06:00 PM, Larry wrote:
>
> I have a question. I have Pidgin start automatically when I start e17and
> when I click the X at the top of the screen to hide it, it goes away,
> not onto the bar at the bottom but to where I know not. When I was using
> icewm it went to the bar on the bottom right and stayed running, I know
> it stays running under e17 cause I found it with ps aux, but where does
> it go?? Is there another bar I can put up where these type things go??
>
> Thanks for helping me find my pidgin.:)
>

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Re: [e-users] How can I make an app start at the begin of every E17 session?

2010-10-11 Thread Christopher Michael
On 10/11/2010 11:25 PM, Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira wrote:
> GNOME, KDE, XFCE, and almost every major desktop environment on linux offer
> a way of controlling what apps should be run at the begin of every session.
> How can I make this in Enlightenment?
>

Add the app's .desktop file to ~/.e/e/applications/startup/.order file 
(create if missing).

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Re: [e-users] evas can't load the 'Sans' font

2010-08-19 Thread Christopher Michael
On 08/19/2010 01:56 AM, Noah Rømer wrote:
> On 08/18/2010 06:36 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
>> In the e/trunk/evas directory, check that config.h contains:
>>
>> /* have fontconfig searching capabilities */
>> #define HAVE_FONTCONFIG 1
>>
>> to make sure evas was built with fontconfig support.
>
> Well, color me embarrassed. Looks like my build script was broken and
> not setting the configure switches properly. Thanks, and sorry to have
> taken up your time.
>

Not a problem ! Glad to be of service :)

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Re: [e-users] evas can't load the 'Sans' font

2010-08-18 Thread Christopher Michael
In the e/trunk/evas directory, check that config.h contains:

/* have fontconfig searching capabilities */
#define HAVE_FONTCONFIG 1

to make sure evas was built with fontconfig support.

dh

On 08/18/2010 08:24 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
> Have ttf-bitstream-vera installed ?
>
> dh
>
> On 08/18/2010 08:08 PM, Noah Rømer wrote:
>> <<<< Enlightenment Error>>>>
>> Enlightenment found Evas can't load the 'Sans' font. Check Evas has
>> fontconfig
>> support and system fontconfig defines a 'Sans' font.
>>
>> I recently did a large update of my system (Gentoo), and now, when
>> enlightenment tries to start, I get the above message. I'm running the
>> 0.16.999.49898 snapshot, and have tried recompiling all e17 related
>> packages, just to be sure.
>>
>> There are a variety of Sans-Serif fonts installed (the same ones as when
>> e17 didn't complain). Evas is compiled with fontconfig support turned
>> on. The fontconfig version is 2.8.0 .
>>
>> `fc-match Sans` says
>> DejaVuSans.ttf: "DejaVu Sans" "Book"
>>
>> I know this has come up before, but I've not been able to find a
>> solution referenced. Has anyone else run into this and found a solution?
>>
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Re: [e-users] evas can't load the 'Sans' font

2010-08-18 Thread Christopher Michael
Have ttf-bitstream-vera installed ?

dh

On 08/18/2010 08:08 PM, Noah Rømer wrote:
>   Enlightenment Error
> Enlightenment found Evas can't load the 'Sans' font. Check Evas has
> fontconfig
> support and system fontconfig defines a 'Sans' font.
>
> I recently did a large update of my system (Gentoo), and now, when
> enlightenment tries to start, I get the above message. I'm running the
> 0.16.999.49898 snapshot, and have tried recompiling all e17 related
> packages, just to be sure.
>
> There are a variety of Sans-Serif fonts installed (the same ones as when
> e17 didn't complain). Evas is compiled with fontconfig support turned
> on. The fontconfig version is 2.8.0 .
>
> `fc-match Sans` says
> DejaVuSans.ttf: "DejaVu Sans" "Book"
>
> I know this has come up before, but I've not been able to find a
> solution referenced. Has anyone else run into this and found a solution?
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Re: [e-users] gkrellm positioning

2010-07-06 Thread Christopher Michael
On 07/06/2010 05:35 PM, Mick wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 July 2010 22:24:30 you wrote:
>> On 07/06/2010 05:13 PM, Mick wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 06 July 2010 21:07:10 Andreas Volz wrote:
 Am Sun, 4 Jul 2010 23:49:16 +0100 schrieb Mick:

 Hello Mick,

> This solves the problem of the gkrellm, in that it allows it to rest
> at the bottom of the right hand corner of the screen, but at the same
> time when I maximise a window it also stretches to the bottom of the
> screen, behind the bottom shelf.  This is undesireable for me because
> a)the shelf covers the bottom end of the window which some
> applications are using for status info and b)the desktop on either
> side of the shelf is no longer available for launching the menu.

 What's about the option "below windows" in the shelf settings? Here is
 solves your use case.
>>>
>>> Thank you Andreas,
>>>
>>> I am afraid it does not solve my case.  The "below windows" setting
>>> allows maximised windows to overlap the shelf and hide it, while I want
>>> them not to do so.  Please have a look at the screenshot below, the
>>> email window rests above the shelf, while gkrellm is at the bottom right
>>> hand side of the screen. This is how the previous version I had
>>> installed worked.  This is also how the 'slit' in Fluxbox works and in
>>> its default settings neither dockapps in the slit, not the shelf/toolbar
>>> get overlapped by application windows.  The screenshot shows what I
>>> mean.
>>>
>>> http://yfrog.com/5montopofshelfp
>>>
 I added two new configuration options in the window geometry settings.
 See the commit it should explain it. But it's easy to understand from
 the option text.

 Please test if this solves all your use cases or if still a problem
 exists.

 The SVN commit number for this change is 50083.

 This may help for the gkrellm problem. At least that gkrellm moves up
 on repaint. Maybe it doesn't solve the initial position problem. Could
 you please test it again with the new options and report the result
 here?
>>>
>>> I would, but I don't know how to install what you have commited using my
>>> Gentoo OS and layman.  It reports a different revision:
>>>
>>> * Running command "/usr/bin/svn up "/var/lib/layman/efl""...
>>> At revision 50085.
>>>
>>> (sorry but my knowledge of layman is limited).
>>
>> I think the biggest issue here is that the new(est) code for layout does
>> not account for shelves which do not take up the whole region. What I
>> mean by this is simply this (example):
>>
>> Shelves which are placed on the bottom (or any position for that
>> matter), are assumed to take up the whole width/height of the zone (in
>> the new code). The old(er) code accounted for the possibility that
>> shelves are not taking up all that space (ie: the shelf is set to
>> 'shrink w/ content').
>>
>> So what we see happening here is the new layout code assumes the shelf
>> takes up the whole width of the zone/screen, so it places gkrellm not at
>> the bottom right (where it should be), but rather placing it as if the
>> shelf takes up the whole zone width.
>>
>>
>> It's my 'theory' that the new placement code needs to account for
>> shelves which do not take up all the available space just a theory
>> mind you :) as I don't know all that code real well. This would not
>> require any new config variables or anything ... just some changes in
>> the layout code to account for shelves which are not taking up all the
>> space.
>>
>> I apologize if this does not make any sense ... difficult to articulate
>> what I mean :)
>
> Yes, exactly what you say makes perfect sense to me and perfectly describes my
> observation!  I have a wide screen laptop and the shelf both horizontally or
> vertically does not cover the whole desktop width/height.  On a smaller
> screen/resolution it would probably cover the whole width so this issue would
> not be noticed.

Exactly ! (I experience the same problem here)

I think it's just a small over-sight wrt shelf size. Should not be too 
big of a deal to change, but again, I don't know that code all that well.

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Re: [e-users] gkrellm positioning

2010-07-06 Thread Christopher Michael
On 07/06/2010 05:13 PM, Mick wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 July 2010 21:07:10 Andreas Volz wrote:
>> Am Sun, 4 Jul 2010 23:49:16 +0100 schrieb Mick:
>>
>> Hello Mick,
>>
>>> This solves the problem of the gkrellm, in that it allows it to rest
>>> at the bottom of the right hand corner of the screen, but at the same
>>> time when I maximise a window it also stretches to the bottom of the
>>> screen, behind the bottom shelf.  This is undesireable for me because
>>> a)the shelf covers the bottom end of the window which some
>>> applications are using for status info and b)the desktop on either
>>> side of the shelf is no longer available for launching the menu.
>>
>> What's about the option "below windows" in the shelf settings? Here is
>> solves your use case.
>
> Thank you Andreas,
>
> I am afraid it does not solve my case.  The "below windows" setting allows
> maximised windows to overlap the shelf and hide it, while I want them not to
> do so.  Please have a look at the screenshot below, the email window rests
> above the shelf, while gkrellm is at the bottom right hand side of the screen.
> This is how the previous version I had installed worked.  This is also how the
> 'slit' in Fluxbox works and in its default settings neither dockapps in the
> slit, not the shelf/toolbar get overlapped by application windows.  The
> screenshot shows what I mean.
>
> http://yfrog.com/5montopofshelfp
>
>
>> I added two new configuration options in the window geometry settings.
>> See the commit it should explain it. But it's easy to understand from
>> the option text.
>>
>> Please test if this solves all your use cases or if still a problem
>> exists.
>>
>> The SVN commit number for this change is 50083.
>>
>> This may help for the gkrellm problem. At least that gkrellm moves up
>> on repaint. Maybe it doesn't solve the initial position problem. Could
>> you please test it again with the new options and report the result
>> here?
>
> I would, but I don't know how to install what you have commited using my
> Gentoo OS and layman.  It reports a different revision:
>
> * Running command "/usr/bin/svn up "/var/lib/layman/efl""...
> At revision 50085.
>
> (sorry but my knowledge of layman is limited).
>
I think the biggest issue here is that the new(est) code for layout does 
not account for shelves which do not take up the whole region. What I 
mean by this is simply this (example):

Shelves which are placed on the bottom (or any position for that 
matter), are assumed to take up the whole width/height of the zone (in 
the new code). The old(er) code accounted for the possibility that 
shelves are not taking up all that space (ie: the shelf is set to 
'shrink w/ content').

So what we see happening here is the new layout code assumes the shelf 
takes up the whole width of the zone/screen, so it places gkrellm not at 
the bottom right (where it should be), but rather placing it as if the 
shelf takes up the whole zone width.


It's my 'theory' that the new placement code needs to account for 
shelves which do not take up all the available space just a theory 
mind you :) as I don't know all that code real well. This would not 
require any new config variables or anything ... just some changes in 
the layout code to account for shelves which are not taking up all the 
space.

I apologize if this does not make any sense ... difficult to articulate 
what I mean :)

dh


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Re: [e-users] gkrellm positioning

2010-07-03 Thread Christopher Michael
On 07/03/2010 03:55 AM, Mick wrote:
> On Friday 02 July 2010 01:31:11 Christopher Michael wrote:
>> On 07/01/2010 11:35 AM, Mick wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I updated E17 from the cvs two days ago and I noticed that gkrellm2
>>> which should be positioned at the bottom right corner of the screen,
>>> keeps being pushed up by the height of the bottom shelf.
>>
>> Noticed this lately myself. Shelf position is not a factor, happens w/
>> any... assuming recent e_zone changes wrt shelf position(s) and "dirty"
>> space...
>
> This 'dirty space' you mention was not happening before - is this a bug?
>

I believe it is, yes.

dh

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Re: [e-users] gkrellm positioning

2010-07-01 Thread Christopher Michael
On 07/01/2010 11:35 AM, Mick wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I updated E17 from the cvs two days ago and I noticed that gkrellm2
> which should be positioned at the bottom right corner of the screen,
> keeps being pushed up by the height of the bottom shelf.
Noticed this lately myself. Shelf position is not a factor, happens w/ 
any... assuming recent e_zone changes wrt shelf position(s) and "dirty" 
space...

The shelf
> does not occupy the whole width of the bottom of the screen, so I'm
> not sure what pushes gkrellm up with this version of E17 I've just
> installed.
>
See above

> I have added gkrellm at the startup apps for some time now, but as I
> said this was fine until now.  I have tried setting up
> More/Remember/Name+Position, but it is still being pushed up.
>
> Any ideas?

Cheers,
dh


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Re: [e-users] Font size in menu

2010-05-23 Thread Christopher Michael
On 05/23/2010 12:27 PM, Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 23 May 2010 13:57:34 hannes.janet...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Mick  wrote:
>>> On Sunday 23 May 2010 12:23:20 hannes.janet...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 1:20 PM, hannes.janet...@gmail.com

   wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Mick
> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> First post in this list!  :-)
>>
>> I have after some years of thinking about it installed Enlightenment
>> on my new laptop.  The laptop has 1920x1080 resolution, but at 15.6"
>> screen size the menu looks really tiny and I struggle to read each
>> entry.
>>
>> I managed to modify the fonts for anything else on the desktop and
>> I'm almost happy on how it looks with the A-Wood-SP theme.  However,
>> I cant make the menu fonts increase in size.  How can I achieve this?
>
> for general font sizes you can set scaling in appearance settings

 err 'Look' .. named 'appearance' in code :)
>>>
>>> Thanks again Hannes,
>>>
>>> I may need you to hold my hand on this ... where can I find the 'code'?
>>> Configuration files in ~/.e/e/config seem binary, rather than text
>>> format. Since I am not a programmer I can't edit these with a text
>>> editor.
>>
>> whether a text part listens to scale changes is defined in the theme.
>> in data/themes/default.edc group e/widgets/menu/default/label. but
>> scaling is set there to one so it should work. if you use the default
>> theme.
>
> Yes, of course, changing back to the default theme and suddenly Scaling works
> fine.  Decreasing DPI to 70 makes the menu fonts larger, however, what I'm
> really trying to find out is:
>
>isn't there an easy way to change the font size on another theme?
>
> like for example this theme:
>
> http://e17-stuff.org/content/show.php/A-WoodB-SP?content=110281
>
>
Yes. In the settings panel, under the 'Look' category, choose 'Fonts'. 
When the font dialog comes up you can adjust the font used on that 
screen ... or if you go to the Advanced page you can adjust the font 
used for individual parts separately (ie: Title Bar can have a different 
font or size than Menu Item).

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Re: [e-users] Enlightenment 0.16.999.063: SEGV if type run prompt command starting with f, b, or / ???

2010-04-17 Thread Christopher Michael
On 04/17/2010 10:53 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:23:40 -0400 Christopher Michael
> said:
>
>> As is apparent here:
>>
>> http://home.comcast.net/~devilhorns/run_ff.png
>>
>> It works fine with current svn of e17&  efl (as of this writing). I
>> would try updating to the latest and greatest that you can...(ideally
>> from svn, but you have already stated that you don't want to do that) :)
>>
>> If the problem does persist for you, the only way we can really be of
>> help would be if you had a gdb backtrace of the crash (which would
>> require installed from svn and building with -g, etc, etc).
>
> well if he doesnt want to upgrade to svn and it's fixed.. there is NOTHING he
> can do. it's upgrade and have something that works or live with what he has.
> not much in between (well unless he wishes to patch his own code and rebuild -
> but i am assuming that is even harder tan upgrade , so ruling it out)
>
Of course...Just trying to toss some 'subtle' hints out there that svn 
would be the better way to go :)

dh

>> In case you feel brave one day ;) here is a link to getting backtraces :)
>> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Debugging
>>
>> devilhorns
>>
>> On 04/17/2010 10:09 PM, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
>>>
>>> On 4/10/10 a: pacman -Syu :destabilized e17's run command dialog on my
>>> Arch Linux installation.
>>>
>>> Yes I know e17 is still under heavy development, so I can't
>>> expect it to be completely stable. But I thought I should bring this
>>> up even though I found a workaround that works for me.
>>>
>>> And I know this "could" be a distro specific problem... But I don't think
>>> so because:
>>>
>>> To quote from the Arch wiki:
>>>
>>> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux
>>>
>>> ->   Arch provides non-patched, vanilla software; packages are offered from
>>> ->   pure upstream sources, how the author originally intended it be
>>> ->   distributed. Patching only occurs in extremely rare cases, to prevent
>>> ->   severe breakage in the instance of version mismatches that may occur
>>> ->   within a rolling release model.
>>>
>>> However I am a multi-Linux/multi-boot kind of guy, who in each and
>>> every distro I install, heavily depends on their package management
>>> system to keep me out of dependency hel^Hck... ;-7
>>>
>>> And e17 is definitely one "package" that I wouldn't even attempt to
>>> install by hand.
>>>
>>> But of all my currently installed distros, Arch is the one that seems
>>> most likely to install an unadulterated upstream package, rather than a
>>> distro specific {modified} version.
>>>
>>> Thus I don't think the fact that the only e17 on my laptop that this has
>>> happened to, is the one in Arch, automatically makes it a distro specific
>>> issue. It probably only means the Arch e17 is more accurately updated...
>>> At least that's mt best guess.
>>>
>>> I'm not really sure what was the e17 version number that I installed to Arch
>>> sometime since my mid March initial installation of Arch itself, but as
>>> of now the e17 "help about" lists it as "Enlightenment 0.16.999.063".
>>> Prior to this recent "pacman -Syu", e17's run prompt worked normally.
>>> Afterwards it's become fussy what the first character I input into it is.
>>> That is to say, I usually start opera via the run prompt and when I type
>>> "o" the command history displays the last instance of the command And I can
>>> in fact start opera. Yet I also use firefox {though I usually start that
>>> from inside alpine}. The other day I tried to start firefox from the run
>>> prompt. But as soon as I typed an "f" into the first character position of
>>> the command input field, I got a pop-up error telling me that
>>> "Enlightenment SEGV'd" That also advised me to compile everything with "-g
>>> in CFLAGS" So far, the the restore button succeeds in restarting e17
>>> without closing any open applications... But of course firefox didn't
>>> start. I can start firefox from an xterm. And I tested that I can type "of"
>>> into the run prompt without an immediate SEGV But I can't type an f as the
>>> first character. I haven't tested the whole alpha

Re: [e-users] Enlightenment 0.16.999.063: SEGV if type run prompt command starting with f, b, or / ???

2010-04-17 Thread Christopher Michael
As is apparent here:

http://home.comcast.net/~devilhorns/run_ff.png

It works fine with current svn of e17 & efl (as of this writing). I 
would try updating to the latest and greatest that you can...(ideally 
from svn, but you have already stated that you don't want to do that) :)

If the problem does persist for you, the only way we can really be of 
help would be if you had a gdb backtrace of the crash (which would 
require installed from svn and building with -g, etc, etc).

In case you feel brave one day ;) here is a link to getting backtraces :)
http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Debugging

devilhorns

On 04/17/2010 10:09 PM, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
>
> On 4/10/10 a: pacman -Syu :destabilized e17's run command dialog on my
> Arch Linux installation.
>
> Yes I know e17 is still under heavy development, so I can't
> expect it to be completely stable. But I thought I should bring this
> up even though I found a workaround that works for me.
>
> And I know this "could" be a distro specific problem... But I don't think so 
> because:
>
> To quote from the Arch wiki:
>
> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux
>
> ->  Arch provides non-patched, vanilla software; packages are offered from
> ->  pure upstream sources, how the author originally intended it be
> ->  distributed. Patching only occurs in extremely rare cases, to prevent
> ->  severe breakage in the instance of version mismatches that may occur
> ->  within a rolling release model.
>
> However I am a multi-Linux/multi-boot kind of guy, who in each and
> every distro I install, heavily depends on their package management
> system to keep me out of dependency hel^Hck... ;-7
>
> And e17 is definitely one "package" that I wouldn't even attempt to
> install by hand.
>
> But of all my currently installed distros, Arch is the one that seems
> most likely to install an unadulterated upstream package, rather than a
> distro specific {modified} version.
>
> Thus I don't think the fact that the only e17 on my laptop that this has
> happened to, is the one in Arch, automatically makes it a distro specific
> issue. It probably only means the Arch e17 is more accurately updated...
> At least that's mt best guess.
>
> I'm not really sure what was the e17 version number that I installed to Arch
> sometime since my mid March initial installation of Arch itself, but as
> of now the e17 "help about" lists it as "Enlightenment 0.16.999.063".
> Prior to this recent "pacman -Syu", e17's run prompt worked normally.
> Afterwards it's become fussy what the first character I input into it is.
> That is to say, I usually start opera via the run prompt and when I type "o" 
> the
> command history displays the last instance of the command And I can in fact
> start opera. Yet I also use firefox {though I usually start that from inside
> alpine}. The other day I tried to start firefox from the run prompt. But as 
> soon as
> I typed an "f" into the first character position of the command input field,
> I got a pop-up error telling me that "Enlightenment SEGV'd" That also
> advised me to compile everything with "-g in CFLAGS" So far, the the restore
> button succeeds in restarting e17 without closing any open applications...
> But of course firefox didn't start. I can start firefox from an xterm. And
> I tested that I can type "of" into the run prompt without an immediate SEGV
> But I can't type an f as the first character. I haven't tested the whole
> alphabet, BUT I did find I can't type a command starting with "b" or "/" as 
> the
> first character either. Though just because I'm stubborn I can tell you that 
> I can
> start firefox [via e17's run prompt] with: "~/../../usr/bin/firefox" (go 
> figure)
>
> I did say I've got a work around that works for me... Since I've also got
> XFCE installed as a back-up desktop, I've reassigned the keybinding I used
> to use to pull up e17's run prompt with, to "/usr/bin/xfrun4". Which works
> just fine.
>
> I don't know if this is a known issue or a new one. But I thought I
> should mention it.
>


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Re: [e-users] Configuring illume2 for custom panel app

2010-04-17 Thread Christopher Michael
On 04/17/2010 04:47 AM, daniele_athome wrote:
> [NOTE: sorry for cross posting the first message because I didn't know
> exactly where to post it]
>
> Hello,
> I've just tried illume2 on my openmoko neo freerunner and it works
> very well. But I want to drop the indicators and replace the top one
> with my own panel application.
The current illume indicator is written as a module and is unloadable 
via the Modules dialog. You can make your own indicator window as a 
module, or as an elementary application. There is an example elementary 
indicator window in e/trunk/PROTO/elm_indicator.

> Currently my app sets its own window to quickpanel and DOCK type, and
> reserves some STRUT space.
> I succeded in removing the indicators by unloading the modules, but my
> panel is still not visible (it may be covered by the background window
> which, by the way, I don't need, how can I remove it?).
>
Quickpanel windows are not meant as a replacement for Indicator. 
Quickpanel windows are a seperate beast all together. Quickpanels are 
meant as simple windows which slide in & out via clicks on the 
Indicator. Quickpanel windows should not be set as a DOCK typealso, 
there is no need for reserving strut space with them. See 
e/trunk/PROTO/elm_quickpanel for an example. Currently, there is no way 
that I am aware of to remove the background window in E17.

> I also have a custom home screen with launchers that could replace
> illume-home; should it be configured as a DESKTOP window? And what
> else?
>
No, a replacement home should not be configured as a desktop window. 
There are examples of illume-home in e/trunk/e/src/modules/illume-home, 
and also e/trunk/PROTO/elm_indicator contains a basic home window too.

Hopefully the existing examples will shed some light on things for you 
:) If not, feel free to ask :)

dh

> Thank you,


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Re: [e-users] E17 menus segfaulting

2010-03-08 Thread Christopher Michael
Appears to be something in the evas svg loader, or something wrong with 
that particular svg...neither of which I know much about. Probably best 
to forward the full gdb bt to the development list.

(enlightenment-de...@lists.sourceforge.net)

dh

On 03/08/2010 04:28 PM, Dustin Nicholas Jenkins wrote:
> Sorry, there was more:
>
> ---Type  to continue, or q  to quit---q
> lo=0xbfc31798, Quit
> ) at evas_cache_image.c:774
> #22 0x00617244 in evas_common_load_image_from_file (
> file=0x9c51740 "/usr/share/virt-manager/pixmaps/virt-manager-icon.svg",
> key=0x0,
> lo=0xbfc31798, error=0xb6c89ee8) at evas_image_main.c:533
> #23 0x0091c5c9 in eng_image_load (data=0xb6e76de0,
> file=0x9c51740 "/usr/share/virt-manager/pixmaps/virt-manager-icon.svg",
> key=0x0,
> error=0xb6c89ee8, lo=0xbfc31798) at evas_engine.c:593
> #24 0x0058cbf2 in evas_object_image_file_set (obj=0xb6c89d38,
> file=0x9c51740 "/usr/share/virt-manager/pixmaps/virt-manager-icon.svg",
> key=0x0)
> at evas_object_image.c:320
> #25 0x080a54e9 in e_icon_file_set (obj=0xb6c89c38,
> file=0x9c51740 "/usr/share/virt-manager/pixmaps/virt-manager-icon.svg")
> at e_icon.c:75
> #26 0x080a1299 in _e_menu_item_realize (mi=0xb6c0f620) at e_menu.c:1309
> #27 0x080a1db8 in _e_menu_realize (m=0x9be80f0) at e_menu.c:1511
> #28 0x080a0382 in e_menu_idler_before () at e_menu.c:934
> #29 0x0806f15c in _e_main_cb_idler_before (data=0x0) at e_main.c:1538
> #30 0x0034e4f8 in _ecore_idle_enterer_call () at ecore_idle_enterer.c:132
> #31 0x0034fc9a in _ecore_main_loop_iterate_internal (once_only=0) at
> ecore_main.c:755
> #32 0x0034ee1f in ecore_main_loop_begin () at ecore_main.c:155
> #33 0x0806dfc4 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfc34ba4) at e_main.c:1083
>
>
> Dustin
>
>
> On 08/03/10 12:13 PM, Christopher Michael wrote:
>> http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/Debugging
>>
>> On 03/08/2010 02:41 PM, Dustin Nicholas Jenkins wrote:
>>> OK. Do I simply put gdb in front of the enlightenment_start command to
>>> acquire the backtrace?
>>>
>>> DNJ
>>>
>>>
>>> On 08/03/10 8:28 AM, Christopher Michael wrote:
>>>> A full gdb backtrace would be much more useful for this...
>>>>
>>>> dh
>>>>
>>>> On 03/08/2010 11:02 AM, Dustin Nicholas Jenkins wrote:
>>>>> And here is what dmesg is spitting out:
>>>>>
>>>>> enlightenment_t[3036]: segfault at 36a7730 ip 036a7730 sp bfd33c2c
>>>>> error
>>>>> 14 in libnss_nis-2.7.so[42c6000+9000]
>>>>> enlightenment_t[3039]: segfault at 36a7730 ip 036a7730 sp bfc0b84c
>>>>> error
>>>>> 14 in libgpg-error.so.0.3.1[4a44000+3000]
>>>>> enlightenment_t[3040]: segfault at 36a7730 ip 036a7730 sp bfa0be4c
>>>>> error
>>>>> 14 in libgpg-error.so.0.3.1[4a44000+3000]
>>>>> enlightenment_t[3166]: segfault at 36a7730 ip 036a7730 sp bf80fc4c
>>>>> error
>>>>> 14 in libgpg-error.so.0.3.1[4a44000+3000]
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Dustin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/03/10 12:25 PM, Paulo Diovani wrote:
>>>>>> Hi friends...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have Just compiled E17 version 0.16.999.063 from svn, at revision
>>>>>> 46864...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everything is working fine, except the favorites menu. Sometimes it
>>>>>> renders
>>>>>> ok, but in most cases the menu is shown, Enlightenment segfaults, and
>>>>>> sometimes it freezes, needing an X restart.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do someone knows how to solve this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> __
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paulo Diovani Gonçalves
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pa...@diovani.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://diovani.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>


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Re: [e-users] E17 menus segfaulting

2010-03-08 Thread Christopher Michael
http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/Debugging

On 03/08/2010 02:41 PM, Dustin Nicholas Jenkins wrote:
> OK.  Do I simply put gdb in front of the enlightenment_start command to
> acquire the backtrace?
>
> DNJ
>
>
> On 08/03/10 8:28 AM, Christopher Michael wrote:
>> A full gdb backtrace would be much more useful for this...
>>
>> dh
>>
>> On 03/08/2010 11:02 AM, Dustin Nicholas Jenkins wrote:
>>> And here is what dmesg is spitting out:
>>>
>>> enlightenment_t[3036]: segfault at 36a7730 ip 036a7730 sp bfd33c2c error
>>> 14 in libnss_nis-2.7.so[42c6000+9000]
>>> enlightenment_t[3039]: segfault at 36a7730 ip 036a7730 sp bfc0b84c error
>>> 14 in libgpg-error.so.0.3.1[4a44000+3000]
>>> enlightenment_t[3040]: segfault at 36a7730 ip 036a7730 sp bfa0be4c error
>>> 14 in libgpg-error.so.0.3.1[4a44000+3000]
>>> enlightenment_t[3166]: segfault at 36a7730 ip 036a7730 sp bf80fc4c error
>>> 14 in libgpg-error.so.0.3.1[4a44000+3000]
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dustin
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/03/10 12:25 PM, Paulo Diovani wrote:
>>>> Hi friends...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have Just compiled E17 version 0.16.999.063 from svn, at revision
>>>> 46864...
>>>>
>>>> Everything is working fine, except the favorites menu. Sometimes it
>>>> renders
>>>> ok, but in most cases the menu is shown, Enlightenment segfaults, and
>>>> sometimes it freezes, needing an X restart.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do someone knows how to solve this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> __
>>>>
>>>> Paulo Diovani Gonçalves
>>>>
>>>> pa...@diovani.com
>>>>
>>>> http://diovani.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>


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Re: [e-users] E17 menus segfaulting

2010-03-08 Thread Christopher Michael
A full gdb backtrace would be much more useful for this...

dh

On 03/08/2010 11:02 AM, Dustin Nicholas Jenkins wrote:
> And here is what dmesg is spitting out:
>
> enlightenment_t[3036]: segfault at 36a7730 ip 036a7730 sp bfd33c2c error
> 14 in libnss_nis-2.7.so[42c6000+9000]
> enlightenment_t[3039]: segfault at 36a7730 ip 036a7730 sp bfc0b84c error
> 14 in libgpg-error.so.0.3.1[4a44000+3000]
> enlightenment_t[3040]: segfault at 36a7730 ip 036a7730 sp bfa0be4c error
> 14 in libgpg-error.so.0.3.1[4a44000+3000]
> enlightenment_t[3166]: segfault at 36a7730 ip 036a7730 sp bf80fc4c error
> 14 in libgpg-error.so.0.3.1[4a44000+3000]
>
> Cheers,
> Dustin
>
>
> On 04/03/10 12:25 PM, Paulo Diovani wrote:
>> Hi friends...
>>
>>
>>
>> I have Just compiled E17 version 0.16.999.063 from svn, at revision 46864...
>>
>> Everything is working fine, except the favorites menu. Sometimes it renders
>> ok, but in most cases the menu is shown, Enlightenment segfaults, and
>> sometimes it freezes, needing an X restart.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do someone knows how to solve this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> __
>>
>> Paulo Diovani Gonçalves
>>
>> pa...@diovani.com
>>
>> http://diovani.com
>>
>>
>>


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Re: [e-users] mouse double clicks

2009-12-22 Thread Christopher Michael
On 12/22/2009 04:35 PM, David Seikel wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:53:07 -0500 Geoffrey
>   wrote:
>
>> On 12/22/09 07:37, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
>>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:09 AM,
>>> Geoffrey   wrote:
 Seems that ever since my last update of e17 (16.999.063), my mouse
 doubleclicks a lot when I do not intend to do so.  I'm constantly
 deleting two messages in email, rather then one.

 I've looked for a mouse setting for this, but don't see it.  Any
 pointers would be greatly appreciated.

 As long as I'm begging for assistance, I've also a problem
 (probably unrelated to e17, but I'm begging), with my middle mouse
 button not working.  This all happened when I replaced my existing
 mouse/keyboard combo.  Buttons 1 and 3 will emulate button 2, but
 I want my button 2 back.  I've looked at my x config, but don't
 see anything that's causing this issue.

 Thanks for any assistance.
>>>
>>> I'm seeing the double click here as well, but I was wondering if it
>>> was hardware problem. Anyway, I doubt this is related to E, but more
>>> related to X as I'm using new X (x-edgers ppa from ubuntu) and other
>>> co-workers do not see such behavior.
>>
>> I would think it would be an X thing as well, it's just that it
>> started happening after I did the update to 16.999.063.
>>
>
> Might just be pure coincidence.  My mouse does the double click thing
> sometimes, I just pull it apart and give it a thorough cleaning, that
> fixes it for a few months.  It's a cheap mouse.  lol

Had a similar problem here a while ago w/ a cheap mouse and the cleaning 
also fixed it for me...just my 2 cents...

dh


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Re: [e-users] sound initialization

2009-11-22 Thread Christopher Michael
Well, was just a thought ;) Must be something that gnome-session is 
running which enlightenment does not...

dh

John Davis wrote:
> Thanks, but pulseaudio is running under both circumstances
> 
> j...@cleese:~$ ps -ef | grep pulse
> j 2111 1  0 19:57 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/pulseaudio
> --start --log-target=syslog
> j 2114  2111  0 19:57 ?00:00:00
> /usr/lib/pulseaudio/pulse/gconf-helper
> j 2160  2139  0 19:58 pts/000:00:00 grep pulse
> 
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Christopher Michael
>  wrote:
>> John Davis wrote:
>>> When I reboot my machine and login to enlightenment, there is no
>>> sound. If I logout and instead login to the default Ubuntu gnome
>>> session, the sound works. If I log out of gnome and start an
>>> enlightenment session again, the sound now works in e, too. So I know
>>> that my hardware is working, but what I don't know is what needs to be
>>> run in order for sound to work straight after a reboot, without having
>>> to login to gnome.
>>>
>>> I can't find an answer on the DR17 user guide wiki. Thanks for any
>>> pointers.
>>>
>>> I am running e17 on Ubuntu 9.10. gdm is my login manager.
>>>
>> I'm not a Ubuntu user, but if I had to guess, I would say that gnome-session
>> is starting the sound server for you, which is why it works after gnome is
>> started. I am not sure what sound server Ubuntu is using, nor how to start
>> it, but this I would guess they are using PulseAudio :( In which case, you
>> need to find out how to start the pulse audio server, then just add that to
>> your E startup script.
>>
>> devilhorns
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 


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