Re: [e-users] systray replacement
lxpanel also has a systray. -- Nigel -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] EFL 1.8 Beta 2 + Enlightenment 0.18 Alpha 4 Terminology 0.4 Alpha 4
Hi, Has anyone built these for Embedded platforms ( Omap3 ) and alike?. I am going to start experimenting with a Pandaboard and Beagle Bone Black. Nige On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 5:50 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote: We are pleased to announce that our second Beta release (Beta 2) of EFL 1.8 is now available for download at: http://download.enlightenment.org/rel The relevant components are: http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/libs/efl/efl-1.8.0-beta2.tar.gz http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/libs/elementary/elementary-1.8.0-beta2.tar.gz http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/libs/emotion_generic_players/emotion_generic_players-1.8.0-beta2.tar.gz http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/libs/evas_generic_loaders/evas_generic_loaders-1.8.0-beta2.tar.gz If you are compiling the above, please compile them in the following order: efl elementary emotion_generic_players evas_generic_loaders If you have an existing EFL or Elementary install, you may wish to delete its header files and libraries before building the above. In addition we have also put up early stage Alphas of Enlightenment 0.18 and Terminology 0.4 available here: http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/enlightenment/enlightenment-0.18.0-alpha4.tar.gz http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/terminology/terminology-0.4.0-alpha4.tar.gz We ask people to test builds and functionality at this stage in preparation for full release. Of course there will be bugs, and this is the point at which to weed them out. Please file bug tasks on http://phab.enlightenment.org and we will address them as best as possible for release. Our next step is full release of EFL 1.8 this weekend. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349351iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- “Science is a differential equation. Religion is a boundary condition.” Alan Turing -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349351iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?
Hi, Just to chime in with 10c's worth. This is my personal preference, working examples atleast as a base works for me ( examples as in code )... Documentaions words are ok for the nitty gritty but not as a substitute for a good example. If you look at most tech books, the question is how many of us read any of them cover to cover?. Probably near none at all, so really for me thats enough said. Nige Disclaimer: This is my personal belief as stated. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira vini.ipsma...@gmail.com wrote: Em Qui, 2013-10-31 às 00:48 +0900, Carsten Haitzler escreveu: this is simply a matter of time. spend 1hr adding a feature someone wants, or 1 hr writing docs. Documentation is a feature too. i personally use docs as reference only - i ALWAYS use example codee. nothing to do with java - it simply is faster, easier and more practical. Documentation can include snippets. i read unix man pages to begin with and frankly they told me very little at all. a whole tonne of words for very little use. examples taught me 100x more in the same amount of effort with docs backing it up as reference. Comparing manpages with HTML rich (or even PDFs) docs. * Manpages cannot have images (maybe with Terminology this is no longer true) and for a GUI toolkit this is kind of a must. * Manpages don't have an easily browsable content (like HTML) have * Summary * Detailed description and extra sections * Extra pages (not directly related to one class only) * A small text for each function as such most of efl does have docs. they are not voluminous essays. again - a matter of time. if you wish to contribute by writing voluminous docs.. go for it. :) The magic of open source. :) -- Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira https://about.me/vinipsmaker -- Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. Download this white paper to learn more about secure code signing practices that can help keep Android apps secure. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=65839951iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- “Science is a differential equation. Religion is a boundary condition.” Alan Turing -- Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. Download this white paper to learn more about secure code signing practices that can help keep Android apps secure. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=65839951iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Is there *real* documentation for edje?
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote: At Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:09:52 -0400 Enlightenment users discussion support enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Hi, Just to chime in with 10c's worth. This is my personal preference, working examples atleast as a base works for me ( examples as in code )... Documentaions words are ok for the nitty gritty but not as a substitute for a good example. If you look at most tech books, the question is how many of us read any of them cover to cover?. But *I* do find them *very* useful, even if I don't read them cover to cover. Often reading a page here or there (or even a whole section) if *very* useful, and *not* because of the included examples. And an *important* part of any tech book is its index and/or table of contents -- either/both of these gets me to the page or section I need to read. Fair comment, Probably near none at all, so really for me thats enough said. The main problem with documentation-by-example is what happens when there isn't an example that covers the question at hand? Or (worse) when the example's name or title does not fully suggest or explain what it is an example of. Also, sometimes it is critical when looking at examples that there is some explaination of the concepts involved. Examples alone can never really explain how to do things, if the *underlying* concepts are not either known or else explained. For example, what does 'swallow' mean in the context of edje? The code in e_menu is using this, but I have no clue as to what is going on and the swallow example does not really *explain* what is going on, it just shows you how to use it, without explaining why you would do it or what its purpose is. Somehow, I don't think it has anything to do with eating or birds (but maybe it does?). I think at this stage, perhaps it would be good to take the opportunity to take a look at the documentation available. Alot of these comments though have been made on howto's, in that they usually only made sense after you have completed the task yourself. I would not doubt that the current documents could use some work. I am not actually 100% on whom would be doing the task. Possibly the person who wrote / contributed to the module in question. Would be cool to find a common agreement here. Nige Nige Disclaimer: This is my personal belief as stated. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira vini.ipsma...@gmail.com wrote: Em Qui, 2013-10-31 às 00:48 +0900, Carsten Haitzler escreveu: this is simply a matter of time. spend 1hr adding a feature someone wants, or 1 hr writing docs. Documentation is a feature too. i personally use docs as reference only - i ALWAYS use example codee. nothing to do with java - it simply is faster, easier and more practical. Documentation can include snippets. i read unix man pages to begin with and frankly they told me very little at all. a whole tonne of words for very little use. examples taught me 100x more in the same amount of effort with docs backing it up as reference. Comparing manpages with HTML rich (or even PDFs) docs. * Manpages cannot have images (maybe with Terminology this is no longer true) and for a GUI toolkit this is kind of a must. * Manpages don't have an easily browsable content (like HTML) have * Summary * Detailed description and extra sections * Extra pages (not directly related to one class only) * A small text for each function as such most of efl does have docs. they are not voluminous essays. again - a matter of time. if you wish to contribute by writing voluminous docs.. go for it. :) The magic of open source. :) -- Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira https://about.me/vinipsmaker -- Android is increasing in popularity, but the open development platform that developers love is also attractive to malware creators. Download this white paper to learn more about secure code signing practices that can help keep Android apps secure. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=65839951iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 / hel...@deepsoft.com Deepwoods Software-- http://www.deepsoft.com/ () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -- against proprietary attachments
Re: [e-users] Embedded E17
Well, Id like to give the script a go ( minus the build env stuff ), buildroot supplies uclibc gcc and I believe I selected C++ ( g++ ) also. So those should be there. Ive built on the Panda, with an external hdd mounted faster I/O. Regards Nigel On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:07:06 -0400 Nigel Sollars nsoll...@gmail.com said: Hi, The Pandaboard build is using Buildroot, with native compiler the UI idea is rather recent. I am familiar with OpenEmbedded and BB recipes. Il take a look at that also. hmm well then u have to provide all the dependencies. i have a script at home that builds all deps and all of e and efl from src - well everything except libc (everything above libc it builds and stuffs into /opt/e). it works on i386 but i have problems with x86_64 and i just havent had the time to sort them out- they're issues down in gcc land (yes - it builds its own gcc too as we need to do provide a libstdc++ and depend on it - damn u c++!). Regards Nigel On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:08:19 -0400 Nigel Sollars nsoll...@gmail.com said: if you have openembedded there - efl is already packaged for it with bb recipes. :) as is e17. :) Sounds good, Thanks very much for the quick response Regards Nigel On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Jerome KURTZ jrm.ku...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't found any information about it, but it is quite simple, you need X and developpement environnement and then build the EFL like on x86, it works fine on a pandaboard ES. Regards. 2012/9/18 Nigel Sollars nsoll...@gmail.com: Hello, I was wondering if there is any documentation about building a minimal E17 stack for driving a UI on a Pandaboard. I am looking at something that would list the bare essentials to achieving this. Many thanks in advance. Regards Nigel -- “Science is a differential equation. Religion is a boundary condition.” Alan Turing -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- KURTZ Jerome EPITA 2012 Spe GISTR Stagiaire développeur chez Substantiel +33 6 88 24 15 22 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- “Science is a differential equation. Religion is a boundary condition.” Alan Turing -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- “Science is a differential equation. Religion is a boundary condition.” Alan Turing -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- “Science is a differential equation. Religion is a boundary condition.” Alan Turing -- Live
[e-users] Embedded E17
Hello, I was wondering if there is any documentation about building a minimal E17 stack for driving a UI on a Pandaboard. I am looking at something that would list the bare essentials to achieving this. Many thanks in advance. Regards Nigel -- “Science is a differential equation. Religion is a boundary condition.” Alan Turing -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Embedded E17
Sounds good, Thanks very much for the quick response Regards Nigel On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Jerome KURTZ jrm.ku...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't found any information about it, but it is quite simple, you need X and developpement environnement and then build the EFL like on x86, it works fine on a pandaboard ES. Regards. 2012/9/18 Nigel Sollars nsoll...@gmail.com: Hello, I was wondering if there is any documentation about building a minimal E17 stack for driving a UI on a Pandaboard. I am looking at something that would list the bare essentials to achieving this. Many thanks in advance. Regards Nigel -- “Science is a differential equation. Religion is a boundary condition.” Alan Turing -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- KURTZ Jerome EPITA 2012 Spe GISTR Stagiaire développeur chez Substantiel +33 6 88 24 15 22 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- “Science is a differential equation. Religion is a boundary condition.” Alan Turing -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Embedded E17
Hi, The Pandaboard build is using Buildroot, with native compiler the UI idea is rather recent. I am familiar with OpenEmbedded and BB recipes. Il take a look at that also. Regards Nigel On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:08:19 -0400 Nigel Sollars nsoll...@gmail.com said: if you have openembedded there - efl is already packaged for it with bb recipes. :) as is e17. :) Sounds good, Thanks very much for the quick response Regards Nigel On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Jerome KURTZ jrm.ku...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't found any information about it, but it is quite simple, you need X and developpement environnement and then build the EFL like on x86, it works fine on a pandaboard ES. Regards. 2012/9/18 Nigel Sollars nsoll...@gmail.com: Hello, I was wondering if there is any documentation about building a minimal E17 stack for driving a UI on a Pandaboard. I am looking at something that would list the bare essentials to achieving this. Many thanks in advance. Regards Nigel -- “Science is a differential equation. Religion is a boundary condition.” Alan Turing -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- KURTZ Jerome EPITA 2012 Spe GISTR Stagiaire développeur chez Substantiel +33 6 88 24 15 22 -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- “Science is a differential equation. Religion is a boundary condition.” Alan Turing -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- “Science is a differential equation. Religion is a boundary condition.” Alan Turing -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Terminology - 1 month birthday. :)
Hi Carsten, Thanks for yet more excellent work. Terminals are one of those apps I didn't think could really be improved upon and terminology shows what I didn't even know I wanted. On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 09:55:33PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: Terminology is now 1 month old. That's how long it's been in SVN. it's a young little whipper-snapper, but actually works. I use it as my terminal every single day (no longer using xterm). Is there a way to set the background tint/shade or is that controlled by the theme? At the moment when set to translucent the background is a bit too light. Thanks again, Nigel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
