Re: [e-users] Test
I see now. That acquaintance of mine is subscribed to the E-Devel mailing list. • Yomi On Oct 29, 2015 11:43 AM, "Wido" <wido...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't knowcan I? > > just kidding =) > > 2015-10-28 17:45 GMT-03:00 Yomi Ogunwumi <abyo...@gmail.com>: > > > Can you read this? > > > > -- > > *Yomi* > > > > > -- > > ___ > > enlightenment-users mailing list > > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > > > > > -- > Wido > > -- > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Test
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Re: [e-users] Test
Hm. Okay. So it is working. It's just that an acquaintance of mine sent an email here and it never showed up in my inbox but, it shows up on sourceforge's web interface. So I'm just not sure what happened to it. On Oct 28, 2015 5:48 PM, "Daniel Kolesa" <dan...@octaforge.org> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Yomi Ogunwumi <abyo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Can you read this? > > aye. > > D5 > > > > > -- > > *Yomi* > > > -- > > ___ > > enlightenment-users mailing list > > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > > -- > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Enlightenment Server is over capacity
That's all I've been seeing all day (phab, git.enlightenment and enlightenment.org), although I did manage to get through a couple times. Is it getting DDoS'd? • Yomi -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] when are we borking phabricator?
That's sounds like some surprisingly low downtime. • Yomi On Aug 8, 2015 1:40 PM, Bertrand Jacquin bertr...@jacquin.bzh wrote: Hi, Phabricator is going to be updated now, the website will be unavailable for ~1 hour. Cheers, Bertrand On 06/08/2015 00:31, Bertrand Jacquin wrote: On 22/07/2015 14:59, Stefan Schmidt wrote: Hello. On 22/07/15 15:55, Yomi Ogunwumi wrote: Updating it. Ah! Any specific new feature you are looking for? In general Beber handles such updates. I CC'ed him. Not sure if he is on the user ml. -- Bertrand -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Unofficial GitHub mirrors for Enlightenment repositories
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Tom Hacohen t...@osg.samsung.com wrote: Hey, tl;dr, links: https://github.com/tasn/efl https://github.com/tasn/elementary https://github.com/tasn/enlightenment https://github.com/billiob/terminology For the non lazy: For a while now I've been maintaining github mirrors for the efl, elementary and enlightenment, and Boris has been maintaining a mirror of terminology. The e* mirrors are updated once an hour, and the terminology mirror is updated by Boris on every push he makes. I know some people prefer using the github interface over the cgit/phab one, and I know some people don't have commit access to the enlightenment git and enjoy hosting their work on github before submitting upstream. This move is meant to make all of this easier. Also, if you'd like your work to show in your github contributions map, all you need to do is star or fork the repo (only then does github update the contribution list). This is not an official mirror. We are not migrating to github. Don't report bugs there. Don't create pull requests. Phab is still king. Why not disable Issues for the repos? -- Tom. -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- *Yomi* -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] when are we borking phabricator?
I'm actually looking forward to the first item on this list : https://secure.phabricator.com/w/changelog/2015.20/ since it broke using the Home, End, Page Up and Page Down keyboard shortcuts. On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Stefan Schmidt ste...@osg.samsung.com wrote: Hello. On 22/07/15 15:55, Yomi Ogunwumi wrote: Updating it. Ah! Any specific new feature you are looking for? In general Beber handles such updates. I CC'ed him. Not sure if he is on the user ml. regards Stefan Schmidt -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- *Yomi* -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] when are we borking phabricator?
Updating it. • Yomi On Jul 22, 2015 9:54 AM, Stefan Schmidt ste...@osg.samsung.com wrote: Hello. On 22/07/15 08:44, Yomi Ogunwumi wrote: when are we borking Phabricator? What do you mean here? regards Stefan Schmidt -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. GigeNET's Cloud Solutions provide you with the tools and support that you need to offload your IT needs and focus on growing your business. Configured For All Businesses. Start Your Cloud Today. https://www.gigenetcloud.com/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] when are we borking phabricator?
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Re: [e-users] display manager
:-/ I could have at least read that over before I hit send. Oh well. • Yomi On Jun 6, 2015 8:44 PM, Yomi Ogunwumi abyo...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if you only plan on _only_ using Enlightenment, but if you do then it can be configured to start locked. • Yomi On Jun 6, 2015 8:22 PM, Peter Koellner pe...@asgalon.net wrote: On Sat, 6 Jun 2015, toki clover wrote: If you go to that discursive route... I'd prefer a million time a clean (and efficient) C variant rather than... python (monster.) I'd prefer C++ or C for any important system component, especially security sensitive stuff. Anybody who have some free time... do not hesitate to give a hand to... entrance. Well, I am lokking at the source code now, but it is a bit difficult without any comments or documentation and no description how to test it within the current desktop. Where would I begin? -- peter kollner pe...@asgalon.net -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] display manager
I don't know if you only plan on _only_ using Enlightenment, but if you do then it can be configured to start locked. • Yomi On Jun 6, 2015 8:22 PM, Peter Koellner pe...@asgalon.net wrote: On Sat, 6 Jun 2015, toki clover wrote: If you go to that discursive route... I'd prefer a million time a clean (and efficient) C variant rather than... python (monster.) I'd prefer C++ or C for any important system component, especially security sensitive stuff. Anybody who have some free time... do not hesitate to give a hand to... entrance. Well, I am lokking at the source code now, but it is a bit difficult without any comments or documentation and no description how to test it within the current desktop. Where would I begin? -- peter kollner pe...@asgalon.net -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e19 almost constantly using 20-30% CPU, burns less CPU with software rendering
Oh hey. I have the list issue you mentioned too... Only I'm on git. https://phab.enlightenment.org/T1069 zmike had fixed it some time ago, but it would appear it's back. I don't know if it'll be any help, but have you tried mpv? https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv On Apr 30, 2015 1:36 PM, Marc MERLIN marc_...@merlins.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 03:41:55PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: once you realize just how much it's doing... you begin to go wow - it manages to cope with all that that well? WOW! :) on the long-term is to make a lot of this vertex generation threaded so we'd still soak up cpu - but async. Got it. Thanks for the suggestion. I tried triple buffering and it does create bad artifacts. quite possible. but did you look at the difference in cpu usage? switching to pager plain instead of pager as a module will reduce the render area IF you had partial rendering... So I understand the theory you just explained, but practise disagrees. New snapshot pager: e19 idles around 8% CPU mplayer with e19 in opengl rendering: 16% CPU mplayer with e19 in software rendering: 12% CPU Old non snapshotting pager: e19 idles around 1% CPU mplayer with e19 in opengl rendering: 10% CPU mplayer with e19 in software rendering: 5% CPU So whatever OpenGL e19 is doing, it's taking a lot more CPU to use my GPU than software rendering. Does that make sense? Also, disabling the snapshotting pager made a huge difference, especially for e19 at idle. Just for reference, mplayer was using 3% CPU to play my video, so I was a bit upset when e19 was using 10-15%, i.e. 3 to 5x more CPU than mplayer, to display it. One other things I was thinking about. I have 3 virtual screens. With the snapshotting pager, it has to render my 2 other screens to put them in the pager. Without it, it doesn't have to render the 2 non visible screens, correct? If so, that would explain the big savings I'm seeing. Engine: OpenGL (I may try software rendering again, it somehow looked faster on my quadcore CPU) Tear-free: disabled Texture from pixmap: enabled Swapping method: autho you really want tear-free. really. disabling this is just doing yourself a disservice. :) Thanks, I turned tear free back on. X-messages: send flush and send dump enabled Hopefully these are decent options for reduced CPU/GPU load. It would be awesome if you had a preset like the old E where you could say low power system and it would dial down anything known expensive, but in the meantime, I very much appreciate your direct help :) you have a quad core system... not a low power thing. :) If you make my laptop warm, spin up its fans, and half its battery life, we're not going to be friends though ;) Anyway, looks like using software rendering and disabling the snapshotting pager made things much better. Thanks for your help. Now, I still have a bug I haven't pinned down yet: On occasion, e19 will unminimize a window (take it from the list of minimized windows and display it in full) when I close an e dialog or minimize another window. Quite strange. Marc -- A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] chrome freezes
There's already a bug report : https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=381732 • Yomi On Apr 6, 2015 9:11 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 19:42:26 -0400 mh mhe...@member.fsf.org said: I remember seeing some email here or messages on #e about chrome freezing when using enlightenment. There is an empty text box and then a totally frozen chrome window. I'm still seeing this and wonder if there is some solution to this or not. I have to pkill chrome and restart to use it. Seems random, but not uncommon. If switch to xfce I never see this behavior. If there's something I can test to help I'll be happy to. yes - that is a chrome tooltip window and chrome internally deadlocks. that window is an override-redirect window (bypasses wm management) and thus the wm isn't involved in that tooltip window at all beyond compositing it (displaying the pixels), which e does properly. rendering is up to chrome and chrome simply internally deadlocks itself. wm isn't invovled. i can only assume chromes new aurora back-end that replaced gtk is maybe detecting wm and doing something different here and using an untested codepath and locking itself. there is nothing we can do as the wm isn't being involved in this deadlock - chromium isn't asking something of the wm then stopping and waiting for a reply (that we don't give). it's doing this inside of itself. you really need to file bug reports with the chrome devs here. -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] chrome freezes
I know the consensus here (and on phab) is that there's no way this could possibly be Enlightenment's fault, but for about 3 days (a month ago or so) I used Chromium in xfce and it didn't generate an empty tooltip, not once. • Yomi On Apr 17, 2015 6:27 AM, Yomi Ogunwumi abyo...@gmail.com wrote: There's already a bug report : https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=381732 • Yomi On Apr 6, 2015 9:11 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Mon, 6 Apr 2015 19:42:26 -0400 mh mhe...@member.fsf.org said: I remember seeing some email here or messages on #e about chrome freezing when using enlightenment. There is an empty text box and then a totally frozen chrome window. I'm still seeing this and wonder if there is some solution to this or not. I have to pkill chrome and restart to use it. Seems random, but not uncommon. If switch to xfce I never see this behavior. If there's something I can test to help I'll be happy to. yes - that is a chrome tooltip window and chrome internally deadlocks. that window is an override-redirect window (bypasses wm management) and thus the wm isn't involved in that tooltip window at all beyond compositing it (displaying the pixels), which e does properly. rendering is up to chrome and chrome simply internally deadlocks itself. wm isn't invovled. i can only assume chromes new aurora back-end that replaced gtk is maybe detecting wm and doing something different here and using an untested codepath and locking itself. there is nothing we can do as the wm isn't being involved in this deadlock - chromium isn't asking something of the wm then stopping and waiting for a reply (that we don't give). it's doing this inside of itself. you really need to file bug reports with the chrome devs here. -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15utm_medium=emailutm_campaign=VA_SF ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] 2015-02-08: b0rking Phabricator
When might the upgrade happen? And...what revision is phab at currently and what revision will phab be at after the upgrade? On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Bertrand Jacquin bertr...@jacquin.bzh wrote: On 04/02/2015 23:29, Daniel Juyung Seo wrote: Hi Bertrand Jacquinm I think this Sunday is not a good time for phab revbump as the next efl release is scheduled on next Monday. Can you postpone the phab b0rking schedule one week? I probably won't be available for that next sunday and hardly before. Need to check my calendar. Thanks. Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ) On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Bertrand Jacquin bertr...@jacquin.bzh wrote: Hey around, Phabricator will be revbump on sunday, around 15:00 UTC for about 2 hours. Get ready to discover how the world is great and beautiful during the day outside of your home or jail wall, that will not happens so often. Cheers, -- Bertrand -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-de...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-de...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Bertrand -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- *Yomi* -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] 2015-02-08: b0rking Phabricator
One other thing I should have asked in my last message. Can phab.enlightenment.org be shorted to phab.e.org, if possible? On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Yomi Ogunwumi abyo...@gmail.com wrote: When might the upgrade happen? And...what revision is phab at currently and what revision will phab be at after the upgrade? On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Bertrand Jacquin bertr...@jacquin.bzh wrote: On 04/02/2015 23:29, Daniel Juyung Seo wrote: Hi Bertrand Jacquinm I think this Sunday is not a good time for phab revbump as the next efl release is scheduled on next Monday. Can you postpone the phab b0rking schedule one week? I probably won't be available for that next sunday and hardly before. Need to check my calendar. Thanks. Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ) On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Bertrand Jacquin bertr...@jacquin.bzh wrote: Hey around, Phabricator will be revbump on sunday, around 15:00 UTC for about 2 hours. Get ready to discover how the world is great and beautiful during the day outside of your home or jail wall, that will not happens so often. Cheers, -- Bertrand -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-de...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-de...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Bertrand -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- *Yomi* -- *Yomi* -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] 2015-02-08: b0rking Phabricator
Oop. I have erred. • Yomi -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Tabs in terminology
I've been waiting so long for this...maybe I can finally ditch Terminator... Yomi On Dec 2, 2014 3:33 PM, Boris Faure bo...@fau.re wrote: Hi! I've pushed a bunch of commits to the terminology repository. They change (and enhance I hope) the way tabs and splits can be used in terminology. There is a tabbar that can be hidden to get the old tab selector. All splits contain an hidden tabbar thus you can have tabs in splits in tabs in… I couldn't make the tab entries as great as I wanted due to a bug I encountered while using an object in an elm_toolbar_item. I've put that state of the code at devs/billiob/strange_bug. I'll try to make a smaller test case. There are probably some hidden bugs, so please, test it and report them on phab. If you have some ideas on how to improve that aspect of terminology, feel free to share them. Happy compiling! -- Boris Faure Pointer Arithmetician -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] E19 connman module wishlist: VPN icons
Might want to open a ticket on phab, so then it doesn't get lost here. phab.enlightenment.org Yomi -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Battery Monitor Gadget
Yesterday, I decided it would be a better idea to have my laptop suspend when it reached 10% battery power; rather than have it shutoff without too much warning. Once the battery reached 10% it suspended, but then I couldn't figure how to wake it up again, even after plugging in the charger or closing and opening the lid. Usually when I manually suspend, I just open the lid and I'm greeted with E's lock screen. So, how do I wake up my laptop when I have E suspend it once the battery reaches a certain percentage? Yomi -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Using E without a Display Manager
Thank you. Yomi On Oct 15, 2014 3:59 PM, Cedric BAIL cedric.b...@free.fr wrote: Hello, On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Andreas Martens andr...@nodreams.com wrote: I use nodm for this, so when I boot it hops straight into enlightenment that's configured to start into the lock screen, works a treat! On 15 October 2014 17:03, Yomi Ogunwumi abyo...@gmail.com wrote: Enlightenment has a option under Screen Lock, 'Lock on Startup' I started wondering if I could run Enlightenment without Entrance or LightDM, and instead just be brought to Enlightenment's lock screen after booting up. I realize it probably isn't the best idea, as I wouldn't have the option to change desktop environments from the Lock Screen (unless there's something allowing that...) So...can I configure Enlightenment to bring to directly to its lock screen after booting? I do use a systemd user session setup for that behavior. With the following link you should be able to set it up correctly. I have never spend the time to update our wiki, so if you do that setup don't hesitate to update our wiki :-) https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/e18_with_systemd_user_session/ https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/User Have fun, -- Cedric BAIL -- Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Using E without a Display Manager
Ah. What will happen if I hit a segfault in Enlightenment if I'm not using a display manager? Will everything recover as it normally does? Yomi -- Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Using E without a Display Manager
Enlightenment has a option under Screen Lock, 'Lock on Startup' I started wondering if I could run Enlightenment without Entrance or LightDM, and instead just be brought to Enlightenment's lock screen after booting up. I realize it probably isn't the best idea, as I wouldn't have the option to change desktop environments from the Lock Screen (unless there's something allowing that...) So...can I configure Enlightenment to bring to directly to its lock screen after booting? Yomi -- Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Learning about E, EFL, etc.
Hello. As some of you might know, I usually handle triaging some of the issues opened on our phabricator instance. Lately I've just about stopped for two reasons, 1. I'm a bit busier. 2. I read the issues and I have no idea where to put them. It's occurred to me that I sometimes don't know enough about Enlightenment or EFL to know where to accurately place the issues. At other times, it the issue sounds like it might be a major problem, but is only affecting one particular user at the time. For example, T1573 → https://phab.enlightenment.org/T1537 I thought it must have been a feature request, not knowing that Enlightenment is EWHM compliant. (or was until now) So, I'd like to get to know more about the project, so then I can triage a little more effectively. Yomi -- Meet PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance Requirements with EventLog Analyzer Achieve PCI DSS 3.0 Compliant Status with Out-of-the-box PCI DSS Reports Are you Audit-Ready for PCI DSS 3.0 Compliance? Download White paper Comply to PCI DSS 3.0 Requirement 10 and 11.5 with EventLog Analyzer http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=154622311iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] No icons in iBar, Everything Launcher
Ah. Yep. That fixed it, thanks. On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Davide Andreoli d...@gurumeditation.it wrote: 2014-08-30 7:31 GMT+02:00 Yomi Ogunwumi abyo...@gmail.com: I've also been forgetting to mention, the icons seem to work fine in Cinnamon. Do you have evas_generic_loaders installed with svg support? maybe your icons are svg Yomi -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- *Yomi* -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] No icons in iBar, Everything Launcher
I've also been forgetting to mention, the icons seem to work fine in Cinnamon. Yomi -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Using Enlightenment (and EFL?) without the X server
Despite the title, I'm not going to be asking about Wayland. A couple days a ago, I finished moving over to my Toshiba laptop, and forgot to install the X server. Enlightenment started anyway. I figure it was using DRM or something. So I wanted to ask, are there any advantages to using DRM instead of the X server? Yomi -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] No icons in iBar, Everything Launcher
It's probably somewhere in /usr. I can check the PKGBUILD to confirm. I've got the same icons I had installed on the other machine. Maybe I'm missing some other package. Yomi On Aug 24, 2014 7:09 PM, Daniel Kasak d.j.kasak...@gmail.com wrote: I had the same a little while back. I fixed it by going into Settings == Application Theme == Icons and selecting an icon theme. I tried to reproduce the issue later ( ie rm -rf ~/.e and restart ) and couldn't reproduce it, so assumed it had been fixed. Dan On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com wrote: Yomi Ogunwumi, il 24/08/2014 23:34, ha scritto: I'm on git, but this seemed to work fine a few days ago. Did you install in /usr or somewhere else? -- Massimo Maiurana Ragusa (RG) -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Enlightenment Developer day is on again - Düsseldorg, Germany, 12th of October
I won't be able to make it, but will the talks be recorded or streamed? Yomi On Aug 27, 2014 6:06 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: Enlightenment developer day is on again! https://phab.enlightenment.org/phame/live/3//post/enlightenment_developer_day_2014/ come one, come all! -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] No icons in iBar, Everything Launcher
I've finally gotten around to moving to my new Toshiba AMD laptop. However, for some reason the application icons don't show up in the iBar, iBox or the Everything Launcher. I've reinstalled the only icon theme I had been using before, but that doesn't seem to have resolved it. I also started with a fresh config. I'm on git, but this seemed to work fine a few days ago. -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E-devel] Blog about EO
You think they'd let you comment via your phab account... :-\ Yomi On Aug 16, 2014 9:07 PM, Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira vini.ipsma...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-08-16 2:36 GMT-03:00 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com: https://phab.enlightenment.org/phame/live/1//post/yet_another_c_object_model_but_better/ I want to comment over there, but it requires facebook login. Is this authentication method the only supported on the Enlightenment blog? -- Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira https://about.me/vinipsmaker -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Sane Default Fonts
So...when you wipe out your .e/ and start over from scratch...you get the defaults. I have no idea which font E is using right now...but it looks good in some applications, and doesn't work at all with others... Anybody have a few fonts that work well for most applications? I was also thinking Why don't applications default to use certain fonts, if they're allowed to (setting Fonts Settings to Enable Custom Font Classes → Applications), but not selecting a font. Although, that seems to revert back to normal after closing the dialogue. I figure it would be better to have the application decide which font to use, at least for me. Yomi -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Key Bindings
Why can't bind screen locking to WIN + L ? Yomi -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Key Bindings
Welp. Solved that, but I found something interesting. If you set up the Key Binding with Caps Lock on, you're stuck with it. Yomi -- ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Enlightenment Profile
When you build E from git, should you start with a new profile every time too? -Yomi -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Wallpaper Cycler
I've asked in #e a few times, but I figured I might as well have an extended discussion about a wallpaper cycler here. After switching to E awhile ago, one of things I missed was having a wallpaper cycler. It had a few images it'd automatically cycle through every few minutes. IIRC, raster mentioned something about code being in place for that or something to that effect, but I don't remember what he said exactly. I know getting this merged into enlightenment would take awhile, so maybe I could use something like feh to mimic it? Yomi -- Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] What happens to .e-backtrace.txt when E crashes more than once?
Would it be possible to shove time/date information in there as well? To with help with figuring out what time the crash occurred? (assuming the user creates a bug report and uploads the crash log to phab...and if new contents had just been appended to the log...) Yomi -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] The need for Entrance
On Jun 16, 2014 4:52 AM, Alberto Verdoja a.verd...@gmail.com wrote: gEdit and Kate are not display managers like lightDM, they are text editor. I should have mentioned their respective display managers, and then the text editors. There's a couple of text editor on Elementary at the moment. I think that we should have the most EFL / ELM software possible (in an ideal world full of developers). Like KDE with all its QT apps or GNOME with GTK, there should be E19 with EFL / ELM. 2014-06-16 5:23 GMT+02:00 Yomi Ogunwumi abyo...@gmail.com: I think it's been brought up twice before but, I've been thinking about it for awhile now...Why do we have Entrance? It's an EFL based Display Manager and allows you to log into your system, etc...but was it really necessary to create it? LightDM exists and AFAICT, it's meant to work cross-desktop... I'm no developer, but feel free to tell me if it would/should be easier or why it might not work. Aside : Lots of things are duplicated. Gnome and KDE both have their own display managers. Gnome has gEdit and KDE has Kate. Yomi -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] The need for Entrance
On Jun 16, 2014 6:44 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 23:23:51 -0400 Yomi Ogunwumi abyo...@gmail.com said: I think it's been brought up twice before but, I've been thinking about it for awhile now...Why do we have Entrance? It's an EFL based Display Manager and allows you to log into your system, etc...but was it really necessary to create it? why do we have enlightenment? i mean there is fvwm, twm, ctwm, afterstep, windowmaker, fluxbox, openbox, metacity... they all manage windows. so why do another one? idea. we'll quit because someone else has done one already. :) LightDM exists and AFAICT, it's meant to work cross-desktop... I'm no developer, but feel free to tell me if it would/should be easier or why it might not work. entrance (or e. or efl) have nothing to do with being cross-desktop. they have to do with using the libraries we have written and making stuff that fits together and we LIKE to use. :) Aside : Lots of things are duplicated. Gnome and KDE both have their own display managers. Gnome has gEdit and KDE has Kate. yes. if we didn't duplicate we'd have only one model and brand of car on the road. why on earth would you want more than one? all we need is one type1 duplication is so inefficient! So, diversity? Yomi -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Debugging
Moving from phab to the mailing list... Wednesday, June 4th — 9.57am I think Finding memory problems with valgrind in Debugging needs to be rewritten. Yesterday I was using it to attempt to provide useful information for T1315 and T1277. I followed it, but when it gets to launching another X Server and starting enlightenment, everything started to fall apart. The X Server starts, but trying to run E on it failed for me, all I got was a black screen and a cursor. * You don't need to run valgrind separately. * It never covers the options of `enlightenment` or `enlightenment_start`. * Assumes that the reader/user is looking for memory problems by default. I'd make the (limited) changes myself, but I want to know if anyone else had anything to say. I don't know what else I'd add, as I'm not really well versed with debugging. Also, does anyone know how to kill an X Server started with sudo X -ac :1 ? htop doesn't seem to help. Yomi -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] The need for Entrance
I think it's been brought up twice before but, I've been thinking about it for awhile now...Why do we have Entrance? It's an EFL based Display Manager and allows you to log into your system, etc...but was it really necessary to create it? LightDM exists and AFAICT, it's meant to work cross-desktop... I'm no developer, but feel free to tell me if it would/should be easier or why it might not work. Aside : Lots of things are duplicated. Gnome and KDE both have their own display managers. Gnome has gEdit and KDE has Kate. Yomi -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] engage
I've never used engage. Screenshot? Yomi -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Terminology and SCIM
You might want to try this? https://gist.github.com/Yomi0/9729ad306e9c36b6cc66 That helped fixed some awful font rendering in Firefox, but seemed to break Chromium's (unless that was already broken in the first place...) Yomi On Jun 11, 2014 9:50 PM, Morten Nilsen mor...@runsafe.no wrote: On 12/06/14 03:27, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: nope. no one has a gui for them as best i know. xml. have fun. :) I found fontik in Fedora which handles making the xml just fine, but I don't really understand what I need to do.. :p I've ended up with a config like this; http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-539905ef45b995.94572387.jpg but I haven't really noticed any changes and don't know if I should have either.. When I start fontik back up, it says Loading Font Conf File: DejaVu Sans Mono but the UI doesn't show the settings I previously entered, just the same as it had originally; http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-539906ab751d51.43809951.jpg This fontconfig stuff doesn't feel very mature to me with the current tooling :p Guess I'll just have to start reading documentation.. -- Cheers, Dr. P :wq -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] engage
I think extending/incorporating the other gadgets into iBar would make sense. Right now we've got iBar, Tasks, and iBox... Also see : https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/gadget_design/#base-gadgets Taskbar... Yomi On Jun 12, 2014 5:10 PM, Wido wido...@gmail.com wrote: I think iBar (e19) has a lot of engage-like thinks, like showing icons for open applications. The only thing I *think* is not there is enlarging icons while you hover. And I mean enlarging like macos|engage, not the current beating it does (which, I actually like most). Knowing that e19 is full composited makes me thinkg it should be easier to achieve, since now everything supports alpha in all layers, so you don't have to worry to 'what's below'. 2014-06-12 11:58 GMT-03:00 Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com : On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 16:36:39 +0300 Alex-P. Natsios apnats...@gmail.com wrote: https://encrypted.google.com/search?tbm=ischq=engagetbs=imgo:1#q=engage+e17tbm=ischtbs=imgo:1imgdii=_ There you go, a whole assortment of them :) While resurrecting engage would be cool, I agree with someone earlier who thought putting that effort into extending the iBar with additional engage-like functionality might bear more fruit. If that's even possible of course... -- Regards, Christopher Barry Random geeky fortune: Freedom is still the most radical idea of all. -- Nathaniel Branden -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Wido -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Enlightenment is Ugly and Awful
I don't worry too much about the Settings Panel horror, because at some point in the future this will be fixed, apparently. ¹ I also don't play around with Settings too much because I get lost. 1 : https://phab.enlightenment.org/T553 -*Yomi* On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:34 AM, William wjck...@gmail.com wrote: First a disclaimer: I Love Enlightenment and use it as my main workstation OS. While I only started using it full-time last year, I have been following it's development since 1997. As things stand, I would not want to use another system. The ugly and awful truth from my perspective: yes, Enlightenment is ugly. However, ugly is misinterpreted as awful. Compounding the problem is that Enlightenment is extraordinarily complex. I would venture to guess that easily 99% of people who try Enlightenment give up on it after less than two-hours. As all distros\WMs\DEs have a strong tendency to troll one another to different degrees, users in all groups universally troll against Enlightenment. I see it almost everyday. What is the difference with me? I could not possibly care less about the aesthetics of a user interface. It is what I can do with it that counts - how I can arrange my workflow. In that respect, Enlightenment is the most powerful environment available. My most favorite features is the ability to tell one of my displays to be a tiling WM. It is not merely the ability but the incredibly well thought out way it is designed. Of course, if you are a new user, you may never know the functionality exists since one must (comparatively) dig through a mountain of settings to find it. There are numerous other interface features to Enlightenment that I love, and when made to work together simply cannot be found anywhere else - not even close. But the settings are another barrier to entry. If you are not immediately turned off by Enlightenment's looks, browsing through the settings will send most running. When everything is approached at once through the settings panel, for many it is like trying to chisel a tunnel through the moon with a hammer. Some of the best settings are labeled in non-intuitive ways, and so are never explored. To this day, there are settings that even I don't know what they do. I fully appreciate why that may not be apparent to developers and long time users. I have long played with the thought that perhaps there should be a secondary, not so super-scary version of Enlightenment for regular Linux users. This would have to have a default interface with highly refined aesthetics and functional defaults. It would also have to utterly gut the settings panel, of... most things. Basically a stupid version of Enlightenment. I think it could actually be popular, but I do not feel it is my place to champion such an idea. Further, it would double the complexity of development, and I want to make sure *MY* ugly, super-complicated, ultra-functional version of Enlightenment continues to exist. I LOVE it the way it is. So I suppose I am actually against the idea. Just the other day, I was on the elementary OS (polar opposite of Enlightenment) Google+ board where I am very active since that's the distro I put on other peoples computers. We were discussing the upcoming tiling windows manager plugin for elementary OS. I mentioned that I use Bodhi and briefly discussed its tiling feature. Of course, the hate descended. My next to the last post on the matter reads as follows and I think is most poignant: This is true. However, I care absolutely nothing about aesthetics. ( I was desensitized after working with mainframes a long time ago) So in my case, ugliness does not interfere with my user experience as it does with others, and I don't mind extreme configuration. If elementary OS was extremely ugly but otherwise had the interface features I like about it, I would still love it just as much. Although I would not recommend it, let only install it on other peoples computers as I otherwise do. Much the same, I never ever recommend Bodhi or Enlightenment in general to anyone under any circumstances. You asked, William On 06/10/2014 09:38 AM, Jeff Hoogland wrote: Is basically the feedback I get from non-E users most times. Thoughts on this? Recent example - http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/27qt7k/bodhi_linux_300_rc1_released_ubuntu_1404_base/ -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] A small issue with terminology
Hmm, you might also want to try this : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bash#Fix_line_wrap_on_window_resize Try adding this to your .bashrc : #check the window size after each command and, if necessary, # update the values of LINES and COLUMNS. shopt -s checkwinsize Yomi On Jun 7, 2014 8:56 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 22:58:20 +0200 Morten Nilsen mor...@runsafe.no said: On 06/07/2014 09:26 PM, meine wrote: Anyway, I've run into a slight annoyance with terminology and long command lines.. I first encountered this using Final Term terminal -- mixing up the input. my experience is that the terminal you most frequently use shows things as ment. have no solution though as to use one terminal for main use. Use a single terminal? That's like unpossible! :p Anyway, thanks for the input on my issue. I managed to narrow it down to a bad PS1 value, and have now fixed the offending scriptlet - it was using ANSI sequences without \[\] Same as was reported here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=48910 well.. i guess this solved itself... but i was going to say wtf? i've never seen that! works fine here!... bad escaping could explain it as your prompt is custom to you. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] segfault with enlightenment-0.18.8 and spotify/chrome
You'll want to read some of this, https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/debugging/#debugging-using-gdb Read through the debugging with gdb section. Recompile with debugging symbols and then once your able to get enlightenment to crash, don't click recover, switch to a virtual terminal via Ctrl + Alt + F6, login, then run the commands from the Debugging guide. After you get the back trace, head over to phab.enlightenment.org create a account if you don't already have one and a new task in Maniphest. Yomi On May 22, 2014 9:51 PM, Conrad Hill-Knight iestynap...@gmail.com wrote: After upgrading Ubuntu to 14.04, i got impatient waiting for a packaged E-18 and compiled enlightenment-0.18.7 myself. I did, however, have an odd problem whenever i started the spotify client: E would segfault. On the rare occasion E has segfaulted in the past, pressing F1 to resume has always worked. Now, though, it continued to segfault every time after redrawing all windows. The only option left was to press F12 to log out. Fast forward to this week... I compiled efl and elementary 1.9.4, noticed there was an 0.18.8 version of enlightenment, too, so also compiled that. Coincidentally, while logging out and back in again, I noticed there were a large number of updates to Ubuntu packages, including a new version of spotify. So with new enlightenment and new spotify, i decided to try again, but had the same result: segfault, followed by F1 not working and having to log out. I noticed that as spotify starts up, a window is drawn and quickly disappears before i can see its contents. Then the main window appears, and just before all of the pictures, buttons, etc. show up, E segfaults. After i press F1, i even have time to press the play button to start music playing before E segfaults again. Just before i attempted to run spotify, i also noticed a pop-up notification from chrome (new email) was badly drawn: the bottom half of the pop-up was black. I didn't think much of it, until after the segfault, but it's quite possible chrome also got updated. I logged out, and back in again, fired up chrome to write this email, and some time after chrome started i again got a new email notification. This time the pop-up didn't appear at all, but E threw another segfault at the exact moment it would have (i could tell the timing because gmail on my phone usually chimes at almost the same time the pop-up appears). F1 didn't help again, E segfaulted almost immediately. But in between i noticed a new, borderless window had appeared in the top, left corner of the screen: a dark grey square with a small bell icon. In the second or so between pressing F1 and the next segfault i was able to click on this icon and see that it was for chrome's notification settings. tl;dr : E is segfaulting whenever chrome tries to draw a pop-up window, or whenever i open spotify (which may involve drawing a window i never get to see). Pressing F1 doesn't help, E will just crash again moments later. The crash notification window mentions attaching gdb to the process, or possibly recompiling E with certain compiler flags. I could do either, or both, but i don't know what i'd be looking for. Would anyone have some minimal instructions to track down what's causing these crashes? -- Whenever and wherever you want. -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] how to move a window...?
Alt Yomi On May 14, 2014 3:42 PM, Pierre Couderc pie...@couderc.eu wrote: ...when the upper bar is not visible ? How to force it to come back in the scrren? Thank you PC -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] [E19 Theme] Port of the GTK Radiance Theme
Nice. I'll check it out when I get a chance. Yomi -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] The E configuration option compendium is complete
It is completed. Mostly. With some minor formatting issues. There are also some sections missing. (Because there are some really long bits.) https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/e_configuration_options_compendium/ Yomi -- Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform Build your Enterprise Intranet with eXo Platform Software Java Based Open Source Intranet - Social, Extensible, Cloud Ready Get Started Now And Turn Your Intranet Into A Collaboration Platform http://p.sf.net/sfu/ExoPlatform ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Compiling Enlightenment fails
Hi. I was trying to compile Enlightenment earlier and it failed with this : /usr/bin/ld: src/bin/src_bin_enlightenment-e_uuid_store.o: undefined reference to symbol 'shm_unlink@@GLIBC_2.2.5' /usr/lib/librt.so.1: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status Makefile:8532: recipe for target 'src/bin/enlightenment' failed make[2]: *** [src/bin/enlightenment] Error 1 make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs make[2]: Leaving directory '/tmp/enlightenment-git/src/enlightenment' Makefile:15036: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory '/tmp/enlightenment-git/src/enlightenment' Makefile:4591: recipe for target 'all' failed make: *** [all] Error 2 == ERROR: A failure occurred in build(). Aborting... == ERROR: Makepkg was unable to build enlightenment-git. == Restart building enlightenment-git ? [y/N] I'm on Arch Linux x86_x64 Paste on phab : https://phab.enlightenment.org/P53 -*Yomi* -- Start Your Social Network Today - Download eXo Platform Build your Enterprise Intranet with eXo Platform Software Java Based Open Source Intranet - Social, Extensible, Cloud Ready Get Started Now And Turn Your Intranet Into A Collaboration Platform http://p.sf.net/sfu/ExoPlatform ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
