Re: [e-users] [e-user] E-0.19.5[X,opengl] high CPU usage

2015-06-06 Thread toki clover
Actually the issue is more severe than I thought...

After starting GLadish (JACK/Ladi session handler) and started
a default session with jack_mixer and calf plugin manager;
E-0.19.5 almost constantly consume 16% of CPU time of the
first core.

And then, removed systray module because jack_mixer has
systray XEmbed icon which cannot effectively disabled.
This reduce a few percent and got roughly 12-14%
CPU time consumption of the first core.

And then, launched tint2 to handle safely systray and got
almost 6-12% CPU time of the first core consumption.

While E-0.18.8+systray+XEmbed icons in systray consume
0.6% idling and 2-4% when active.

E19 is a beast in regard of this, so I am sticking with E18
for the time being.
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[e-users] [Terminology] Bracketed paste support and key-bindings issue

2015-06-06 Thread toki clover
Hello,

TERM ENV-VARIABLE ISSUE:

I've just updated Terminology last weekend and decided to experiment
a few things.

Now, after reading this[1],--bracketed paste in zsh,--and this old vector
attack[2]; I decided to use a modified[3] version of [1] which implements
restoring old keymap after bracketed paste usage.

However, Terminology just freezes after merely copying/pasting anything
in the terminal. Removing the brackted-paste.zsh sourcing in my ~/.zshrc
fix this.

Freezing here means that the input is unresponsive and cannot type in
anything nor change the keymap (vi command/insert) after a copy/paste.

And then, I removed the TERM=xterm-256color only to find out that
Terminology set TERM=xterm by default! So, Termonology should
implement all the XTerm features to do this, or else, offer an opportunity
to set up another TERM environment variable. It should not impersonate
XTerm without supporting... bracketed copy/paste[4] which is documented
over there (on XTerm web-site.)

KEYBINDING ISSUE:

Second issue is that I am using a hardware which has an extended
numeric-pad keyboard with extra navigation keys {home,end-of-line,delete
page-{up,down},up,down,left,right,insert}.

However, the escape sequences generated by those extra key are.. a bit
misleading with funy values with Rxvt-unicode, common `\e['{H,F,5~,6~}
escape sequences with Xterm.

And so, set up something for bash[5] and  zsh[6] to take care of
key-bindings for me and rejoice the easy way of a few editing operations.

Still, the TERM env-variable is misleading for Terminology because
nothing is generated while pressing those keys. I've checked with
`C-v' + key and nothing is generated if num-lock is active; otherwise,
it's the digits/arithmetic-operators when num-lock is unset.

Again, if terminology does not behave like XTerm for this basic stuff,
it should set TERM=terminology and leave the xterm{,-256color} to the
user choice.

[1]: http://www.zsh.org/mla/users/2011/msg00367.html)
[2]: https://thejh.net/misc/website-terminal-copy-paste
[3]:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tokiclover/dotfiles/master/.zsh/lib/bracketed-paste.zsh
[4]: http://invisible-island.net/xterm/ctlseqs/ctlseqs.html
[5]:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tokiclover/dotfiles/master/lib/key-bindings.bash
[6]:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tokiclover/dotfiles/master/.zsh/lib/key-bindings.zsh

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Re: [e-users] [Terminology] Bracketed paste support and key-bindings issue

2015-06-06 Thread toki clover
And second issue is not severe... because Terminology seems
to function normally with bracketed copy/paste with my previous
fix.

This would have been one if it did not work which should have
required another TERM environment variable in that case.
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Re: [e-users] display manager

2015-06-06 Thread toki clover
It's not actually... maybe for lack of manpower. If you have the time to,
do not hesitate to...

Well, the app is still in pre-release state or alpha at best... If you need
a display manager, you can give it a shot, or else, try a light gtk variant
i.e. lightdm+lightdm-gtk-greeter, or even, slim--a lighter variant without
gtk+ dependencies.
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Re: [e-users] display manager

2015-06-06 Thread toki clover
Refs:
[slim]:  http://sourceforge.net/projects/slim.berlios/
[lighdm]:  http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/LightDM
[lightdm-gtk-greeter]: http://launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter
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Re: [e-users] [Terminology] Bracketed paste support and key-bindings issue

2015-06-06 Thread toki clover
Second issue is an no issue... tracked it and debugged it.
Sorry to have added a no issue.
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Re: [e-users] [Terminology] Bracketed paste support and key-bindings issue

2015-06-06 Thread toki clover
The extended keybinding, issue no.2 is still... an issue.
Sorry for reply #2 (which is misleading!) Issue #1 is not
severe as bracketed copy/paste seems to work as with XTerm.
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Re: [e-users] display manager

2015-06-06 Thread toki clover
2015-06-06 20:53 GMT+02:00 Wolfgang Morawetz wolfgang.moraw...@gmail.com:

 what can entrance do for me what enter not does?



If you go to that discursive route... I'd prefer a million time a clean
(and efficient) C variant rather than... python (monster.)

Anybody who have some free time... do not hesitate to give a hand
to... entrance.

Thanks.

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Re: [e-users] [e-user] E-0.19.5[X,opengl] high CPU usage

2015-06-03 Thread toki clover
Yes, actually, not using apps that use XEmbed icons in systray
makes CPU usage more than reasonable; it's almost on par with
E18+(systray)XEmbed-apps. There are a few odd 5-8% jumps.

The pager setting looks odd with this... (placebo effect if you ask
me.) It does look like it trigger more jumpy CPU usage.
Still investigating...

As a result of this, python apps are noticeable here: using
jack_mixer (Python-2.7+XEmbed) is a really a source of CPU
usage. Systray icon config is not respected and so I looked for
a C alternative... nothing found that match it in graphical terms.

jackmixdesk[gtk+-2] has an ugly UI but have an optional graphical
front end; jackmaster is a simple C variant but is very old.
Gosh, stopping here, I'd see what I can do with jackmixdesk for
now; dhcpcd-ui is not really necessary; neither GMPC for simply
listening to playlist (and there is the new simple EMPC to play
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Re: [e-users] [e-user] E-0.19.5[X,opengl] high CPU usage

2015-06-02 Thread toki clover
I see... the fatl blow here is when I use lad-system-tray (a JACK
studio front end) which use an XEmbed icon.. The cores get busier
after launching the app--first core idle a 5%. Well, rolling back then.
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Re: [e-users] [e-user] E-0.19.5[X,opengl] high CPU usage

2015-06-02 Thread toki clover
2015-06-02 20:49 GMT+02:00 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com:


 If I play a video with mpv at 1024x576 yuv420p on my 1920x1080 laptop
 monitor
 I see 35% CPU and if I start moving the mouse this jumps to 40%.

 The cooling fan is kicking in more frequently than it used to, but I can't
 confirm if this started with the e19, or xorg, or kernel updates.


It should be because there is no reason otherwise here...
E-0.18.8+EFL/ELM-1.14.0 does behave as expected... with my default apps
started, every core idle on 0.5% here with first core jumping around 2%.

With E19, the CPU get busier and busier for no reason untill reaching 16% on
average for the firstr core.

I am noticing an additional issue when openring url from URxvt to Firefox...
Firefox got stalled numerous times and need to be restarted which I do not
observe with E18+EFL/ELM-1.14. I previously thought that it could be my
recent switch to LTO[1] (Link Time Optimization) because Firefox had
issues with LTO... but it seems it's E19.

Indeed the pager setting to plain seems to improve a little... still gotting
some noticeable 10% pics CPU usage and then got reasonable 0.5%.

Let's keep E19 for testing for a few days... or else, it'd be E18.

[1]:
https://marxin.github.io/posts/gentoo-linux-packages-with-gcc-4-dot-9-lto/

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[e-users] [e-user] E-0.19.5[X,opengl] high CPU usage

2015-06-02 Thread toki clover
I overlooked many E19 high CPU usage and so ignore the roots
of this issue. Is it related to specific rendering engine? (drm,wayland)
Or rendering engine free? just related to to E19 in some ways?

I am in the dark here because I did not had any plans to upgrade
when encountering those threads.

I updated E from E-0.18.8 to E-0.19.5, EFL-1.10.1 to EFL-1.19.0 and
ELM-1.10.1 to ELM-1.14.0 last weekend.

Again no wayland nor drm here because it depends on logind which
I have no plans to ever install, so only X,opengl rendering here.

Everything was fine untill noticing high CPU time usage (approximately
3H, while X used only 1h from last weekend.)

I have no idea how to debug this and I am busy with other things...

I rolled back E-0.18.8 against latest EFL/ELM and everything went to
normal.

Normally, in idle not a single core goes ever up to 5% usage and one
was constantly at 16% with E-0.19.5 causing almost more than 5°C
increase on the package because the CPU in question is a quad core
Haswell. (Once busy... it does eat and drink, no surprise here.)

Thanks for any input if debugging this is necessary.

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Re: [e-users] Resizing gnome app windows in E19

2015-06-01 Thread toki clover
2015-06-01 1:34 GMT+02:00 Daniel Kasak d.j.kasak...@gmail.com:


 I understand what people are saying about this being an issue that
 Gtk3 / Gnome people are thrusting upon everyone else. Have they been
 approached about these issues? It seems to go against the spirit of
 openness and interoperability that I've gotten used to with
 open-source software. Certainly Gtk2 apps worked consistently across
 the range of window managers.


If I might give a shortcut... of course GNOME developers are well
aware of what they are doing... GNOME became an RH in-house
development DE and so, no doubt about it--as in the SystemD case,--
decided to go for *market share* route starting with... wide popularity/
user base first.

Many old users were send to $#*% themselves if they did not like
the new/modern stuff RH wanted to feed them, e.g. old devs users
like kernel-devs... and are now commonly labeled *haters*.

See here[1] and there[2] or over there[3] for some common occurrences
of the politics of RH.

[1]: The politics of SystemD -
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-983808.html
[2]: The politics of kDbus -
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1004624.html
[3]: Many post on this blog - https://igurublog.wordpress.com/

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Re: [e-users] e16-1.0.16

2015-05-30 Thread toki clover
2015-05-30 12:45 GMT+02:00 Pavel Sanda p...@twin.jikos.cz:


 xorg-server 1.7.7, audacious-1.3.2 (no, i'm not going to upgrade;)


Well, consider switching to mpd... which will be the end of that hold
up (by the real authors!) I gave up early because there were no hope
as the authors switched to gtk+-3 early...

And then consider a worthy grk+[-2] GUI (I like gmpc) or give empc
a shot! Yu won't be surprised by a stuffed UI...

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Re: [e-users] Resizing gnome app windows in E19

2015-05-30 Thread toki clover
2015-05-30 13:56 GMT+02:00 Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com:

 Here on Debian this started many time ago. For what I understand gnome
 windows are a bit different than others as their border is indeed some
 pixels bigger than what you see, al the rest is a transparent margin.

 Also the only thing I can do with these windows is dragging them by
 clicking on the window title. Even the context menu (right click) is not
 passed to E, if I want the window menu I have to alt+rightclick on it.


Welcome to the new GNOME-3 (adwaita in fact) theme!
That awful very huge transparent border was introduced with newer adwaita
version (and may be hardcoded by default in newer adwaita engine;-)
Lost track of the version numbers since ages... I don't try to follow each
silly
breakages or GNOME devs stupid and voluntary API breackages.

e-gtk-theme[0] remove those transparent wasted monstrously huge borders
to actual usable window. (Remain... a few voluntary breakages from...
Mozilla... Stopping here.)

Well, you get the picture already. The affected windows, no surprise here,
are from gtk+-3 apps.

You might try [0]. I did not found any worthy gtk+-[23] theme using adwaita
engine that suppressed huge transparent borders to usable windows...
You might find a few in the intertubes if you don't like it or is unbearable
with Mozzila apps, Chrom* family et al.

Good luck!

[0]: https://github.com/tokiclover/e-gtk-theme

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Re: [e-users] Resizing gnome app windows in E19

2015-05-30 Thread toki clover
PS: I don't have that issue here with any version of gtk+-3 up to 3.14
using e-gtk-theme... I'm only using a gtk+-3 app or two, maybe 3.
Noticeable app whi I use in a regular basis is evince (no choice here.)
And then SpaceFM by voluntarly building againt gtk+-3 for e-gtk-theme
developement... that may be all. And a few handfull gtk+-2, notably,
Firefox. Thanks God, actually Mozilla, for sticking with gtk+-2! ...

Well the numerous UI hardcoding considered... I'm just bearing it
because I don't have any worthy alternative. No Chrom* here, hell no!
And I dislike compilling that monstrously big webkit-gtk and no NoScript
plugin over there.

Just praying the maintainers of the ESR (long-terme-support) variant
to keep as long as possible. Well, two years I think... darn.
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[e-users] ephoto release/tarball?

2015-05-27 Thread toki clover
Why not to release ephoto? There is no activity since ages... but that apps
works pretty well for simple browsing and viewing images.

I'd like pretty much the File-Manager like UI with the side pane to browse
directories and the main pane with... the main dish/images.

The UI even get more neat with EFL/ELM-1.14 with a nice dirs list on the
left
pane.

This simple piece of software is worth a 0.MINOR.PATCH tarball to facilitate
distributing it.

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Re: [e-users] Module allowing to swallow any applicaion into shelf

2015-03-16 Thread toki clover
I guess you're asking an update of 'engage' module to E19
which has task-bar and launcher (iBar like) combined with
eye candy animations. Nobody has touched it since E17
release cycle.
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Re: [e-users] [E-devel] enventor 0.4.2 is out

2015-02-13 Thread toki clover
EBuilds are available in this overlay[1] for Gentooers or Gentoo Users.

[1]: https://github.com/tokiclover/bar-overlay

[NOTE: It does depend on EFL-1.12 as stated in the configure.ac but
nothing masks EFL-1.12+... although it could be done easily.]
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Re: [e-users] enlightenment 0.19.3 backlight problem

2015-02-03 Thread toki clover
2015-02-03 13:50 GMT+01:00 Vasiliy Tolstov v.tols...@selfip.ru:


 Hm... I think you use some systemd magic to get all woking... shell scripts
 not my case =(


Huh? I am not sure I got what you're saying... Certainly no SystemD here!

And this is what SystemD crew use to sell the Troy Horse...
No sripts used to start/manage the sytem! Trust us, we know what
we're doing.

No problem, here. Without me, that is.

One can do many things with scripts (shell, perl, python) to get things
done in a efficient manner. Well, ex. Windows(TM) users may think
otherwise. No problem, I am saying.

Good luck! (with that does everything for you ship.)

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Re: [e-users] enlightenment 0.19.3 backlight problem

2015-02-03 Thread toki clover
2015-02-03 13:21 GMT+01:00 Vasiliy Tolstov v.tols...@selfip.ru:

 2015-02-03 15:14 GMT+03:00 toki clover tokiclo...@gmail.com:

  By memory... setting up some value for default etc. is available.
  And it's a configuration settings... so it should stay around.
  I am not using it anymore because I have a generic setting for
  X server not limited to a WindowManager or DisplayManager.
 
  Looking at it... I can pretty much see the slider for setting some
  values.
 
  Look again!
 

 How you implement generic setting?


It depends on what you're using to start X server...
Do you use a display manager (DM) to start X server?
In which case... I have nothing for you.

I'm using plain console login to start X server with an optional
logout and X screen locker with simple apps..
Check it out over here https://github.com/tokiclover/dotfiles if interested.

[NOTE: Notice that I am using old GNOME-Color-Manager[-2.x] to
load custom ICC devices profiles. Version 3 is not that practicable...
So, remove the offending line and uncomment xcalib line if need be.]

[Similarly, I use ACPId to manage brightness ( power/disk) profile
when AC adapter is plug in or not with a bash script
https://github.com/tokiclover/hprofile in the same fashion (DM/WM free.)]

Good luck!

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Re: [e-users] enlightenment 0.19.3 backlight problem

2015-02-03 Thread toki clover
By memory... setting up some value for default etc. is available.
And it's a configuration settings... so it should stay around.
I am not using it anymore because I have a generic setting for
X server not limited to a WindowManager or DisplayManager.

Looking at it... I can pretty much see the slider for setting some
values.

Look again!
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Re: [e-users] enlightenment 0.19.3 backlight problem

2015-02-03 Thread toki clover
Almost forget about it... Are you using E19[Wayland]?
In which case... I have no clue about it.

(The ref. above was done on E18. Sorry for the confusion.)
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Re: [e-users] enlightenment 0.19.3 backlight problem

2015-02-03 Thread toki clover
This should not be an issue... just checkout backlight
module configuration and be done with it.
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Re: [e-users] possible issues with efl and e18.8

2015-01-21 Thread toki clover
2015-01-21 20:25 GMT+01:00 Todd Hought sup...@gmail.com:

 Yeah, us gentoo folk do tend to fiddle with things quite a bit. :-)

 everything is back to happy now, with efll at 1.11.2, elemtentary at 1.11.2
 and e at 0.18.8.


Glad to hear that... I may try to upgrade to EFL/ELM-1.11 then when feel
like doing so.

Wellcome back!

(PARENTHESIS: Did you check out about.. this:
https://github.com/tokiclover/e-gtk-theme ?
(This was posted on ML a few weeks ago.)
QT will require sticking either with 4.x or nothing if you're on that side.)

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Re: [e-users] possible issues with efl and e18.8

2015-01-20 Thread toki clover
Hi,

I guess you're refering to EFL-1.12+E18? ...

I had the same issue when I tried to set up that combination
a few weeks ago in order to experiment a few things on
ELM+EWE (ELM Widgets.) I ended up by giving up because
it was not that stable and I don't intend to to upgrade EFL-1.10/E18
right away because of logind requirement. So, I will wait for now.

I posted something on the mailing list back then. A discussion
with Raster followed... See efl dependency on logind if you want
to retrieve some info... Although I don't remember what was necessary
to go through that issue.

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Re: [e-users] E config questions

2015-01-03 Thread toki clover
Do you want to redesign E theme to look like XFCE? (Did I get it, that is.)
May luck be with you... So, uncompress E theme (edje_decc theme-location)
and start from there. I guess you will have to redesign every image and
every
.edc file.

[(MAYBE) Useful parenthesis:
If you'd like, instead, have XFCE color sets imported to E default theme,
then,
look at e-users mail archive and read the release notes of e-gtk-theme port.
There is a discussion with Simon to get different color sets of E default
theme.
He made scripts of it... maybe awaiting for you.]
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Re: [e-users] E config questions

2014-12-30 Thread toki clover
2014-12-30 12:36 GMT+01:00 Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no:

 Hi,

 I hadn't looked at enlightenment for a lot of years, but recently
 installed it since it offers separate workspaces for each screen,
 something that I missed in xfce. I've got it set up mostly as I like
 it, but have a couple of questions:

 First off, can I set it up to switch workspaces if I move the
 mouse-wheel on the desktop (as in addition to over the pager)?

 Second, how do I stop the pointer from glowing blue every time I click
 something? I know it's a minor issue, but it bugs me :) Do I need to
 make a theme? I should probably do that anyway, since I'd like to make
 it look a bit more like xfce.

 Also, I don't know what does this, but if I enable gnome services, the
 pointer disappears. This probably has more to do with gnome than e, but
 does anyone have any ideas where I should start to find out what
 exactly causes this?

 Any help would be most appreciated :)

 Petter



You're asking too much!!! Just kidding.

I don't knwo about the feasibility of the first point... but you can look at
the key bindings configuration section.

An alternative is to switch when the pointer reach an edge of the screen.
And this usable with a 4x2, 4x4 or higher VD (virtual desktop). Remains
minor annoyances when a window is on the edge... but it's still a workable
set up with cheap space to work with.

No idea whatsoever on the second point it's complicated depending on the
toolkit an app depends on (seems to be gtk+[23] for you.)

And I don't know what you're talking about by _gnome services_... because
it could be D-Bus/ConsoleKit/PolKit services... E/EFL has it's own D-Bus
services running for ... e.g. power buttons (Note: UPower is needed here)
et al. It does not depend/run other *Kit crap. So no idead on those
supposedly
_gnome services_.

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Re: [e-users] E config questions

2014-12-30 Thread toki clover
2014-12-30 14:36 GMT+01:00 Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no:


 I thought the pointer was part of the theme? Didn't think it had
 anything to do with gtk/qt toolkits? I might be confused here - as I
 said, I haven't looked at E in years.


The pointer theme depends on E theme of course but only for...
EFL apps, so gtk/qt apps will have a different pointer theme.

Note: screen shots for the gtk theme mentioned in the previous
message is over here:
http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=156023

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Re: [e-users] E config questions

2014-12-30 Thread toki clover
2014-12-30 15:19 GMT+01:00 Wido wido...@gmail.com:

 [off-topic]

 Toki, have you tried to use the qt theme that matches gtk? what could be
 the result in having qt to match gtk to match efl?

 [/off-topic]


I did and the end result was pretty good. Now I don't have any use of it at
the
moment..., and it seems support for native gtk theme was dropped in qt-5.x
because I'm not seeing any option to enable it but in qt-4.x here (Gentoo
Linux.)

One just need to enable gtk native theme in qtgui (depending the distro
name.)
And then configure qt to use gtk+[2] as a backend engine. Easy enough to do.

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Re: [e-users] efl dependency on logind

2014-12-29 Thread toki clover
2014-12-28 20:19 GMT+01:00 John Holland jholl...@vin-dit.org:

 I just built e19/efl1.12 packages for debian jessie that do not require
 systemd. I followed the instructions to remove systemd after installing
 jessie* on the vm I compiled on and on a vm to test the results. This
 does leave a couple systemd-related libraries but not systemd itself::00
 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com:


It looks to be a waste of time to me than anything else. So, you expect
circumvent SystemD requirement by that build hack and expect to get
something functional on something that need SystemD or SystemD
extensions functionalities to function correctly?

I am not going to waste some valuable time with close encounters to software
depending on SystemD functionalities because I am not a masochist. And when
the development of some softwares I use is tied to it, I just stop updating
that specific software and look for an alternative in the case what I am
using
become too old, buggy and unfunctional.

Good luck!

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Re: [e-users] efl dependency on logind

2014-12-29 Thread toki clover
2014-12-29 12:19 GMT+01:00 Cedric BAIL cedric.b...@free.fr:

 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 11:10 AM, toki clover tokiclo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 LOL ! If even using a protocol defined by systemd is an issue for you,
 so you won't be able to run Wayland and maybe you will soon run out of
 VT...


Huh? So I need SystemD to have VT? That's quite some news.

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[e-users] [ANNOUNCE] e-gtk-theme-0.19.2 released (Enlightenment dark theme port to gtk+)

2014-12-28 Thread toki clover
Just a little note to announce a tiny bug fix.

ChangeLog:
--
0.19.2:

gtk-2: use bigger image for tab highlight (fix ugly left/right active tab);
minor active menuitem fix;

--
Available in the usual place.

Release/Screenshots: http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=156023
HomePage: https://github.com/tokiclover/e-gtk-theme

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Re: [e-users] efl dependency on logind

2014-12-28 Thread toki clover
2014-12-27 13:23 GMT+01:00 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com:

 Is there a reason that this has been programmed to be a dependency for
 USE=drm?


Yes, SystemD is a requirement for efl-1.12/E19 or higher for wayland/drm
stuff.

This is a new hard dependency to ease EFL/E development. I wanted to test
a few things with efl-1.12+E18 and it's not that workable at the moment and
I
guess the situation won't improve with new EFL releases.

Good luck.

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Re: [e-users] [ANNOUNCE] e-gtk-theme-0.19.2 released (Enlightenment dark theme port to gtk+)

2014-12-28 Thread toki clover
A file update was forgotten in the previous release, so here come a quick
release to fix it.

ChangeLog:
--
0.19.3:

gtk-3: update gtk-widgets.css (which was not included in the previous push);

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[e-users] efl-1.12.2+e-.18.8 issues

2014-12-22 Thread toki clover
I am not following upstream recommendations for efl-1.12
(notably SystemD/GStreamer because I don't want any of them, especially
systemDebug).
So, I will post a few issues here instead of opening useless bugs.

* First, there is a peculiar UPower D-Bus service requirement, when e.g.
running elm_config,
that I don't understand since UPower is removed since E17, right?
---
ERR22366:eldbus lib/eldbus/eldbus_core.c:1003 _connection_get() Error
connecting to bus of type 2. error name:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied error message: Failed to connect to
socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Permission denied
ERR22366: lib/eldbus/eldbus_core.c:1065 eldbus_connection_get() safety
check failed: conn == NULL
ERR22366: lib/eldbus/eldbus_object.c:192 eldbus_object_get() safety check
failed: conn == NULL
ERR22366:ecore_system_upower
modules/ecore/system/upower/ecore_system_upower.c:209
_ecore_system_upower_init() could not get object
name=org.freedesktop.UPower, path=/org/freedesktop/UPower
ERR22366: lib/eldbus/eldbus_core.c:1373
eldbus_name_owner_changed_callback_del() safety check failed: conn == NULL
[1]22366 segmentation fault  elementary_config
---
Same issue when D-Bus module is loaded or not. Anyway, why the UPower bits
are still there
since UPower/UDisks was handy to have automount in the past in E17 which is
not usefull in E18.

* Second, X session log is filled at rather noticeable speed with this:
---
ERReolib/eo/eo.c:676 in
lib/edje/edje_object.eo.c:324: func 'edje_obj_signal_emit' (399) could not
be resolved for class 'Evas_Object_Smart'.
---
with this on E init:
---ERReldbuslib/eldbus/eldbus_core.c:1003 Error
connecting to bus of type 2. error name:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied error message: Failed to connect to
socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Permission denied
ERRlib/eldbus/eldbus_core.c:1065 safety check
failed: conn == NULL
ERRlib/eldbus/eldbus_object.c:192 safety check
failed: conn == NULL
ERRlib/eldbus/eldbus_proxy.c:208 safety check
failed: obj == NULL
ERRlib/eldbus/eldbus_freedesktop.c:28 safety check
failed: conn == NULL
---

EFL configured with: configure --prefix=/usr --build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
--host=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man
--infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc
--localstatedir=/var/lib --disable-dependency-tracking
--disable-silent-rules --libdir=/usr/lib64
--docdir=/usr/share/doc/efl-1.12.2 --enable-shared --disable-static
--with-crypto=openssl --with-x --with-x11=xlib --with-opengl=full
--enable-egl --disable-wayland --disable-drm --disable-avahi
--disable-cxx-bindings --disable-doc --enable-fb --enable-fontconfig
--enable-fribidi --disable-gstreamer1 --enable-harfbuzz --disable-ibus
--enable-nls --enable-physics --disable-pulseaudio --disable-audio
--disable-scim --disable-sdl --disable-static --disable-systemd
--disable-tslib --disable-v4l2 --enable-xim --disable-xine
--enable-image-loader-bmp --enable-image-loader-eet
--enable-image-loader-generic --enable-image-loader-ico
--enable-image-loader-jpeg --enable-image-loader-psd
--enable-image-loader-pmaps --enable-image-loader-tga
--enable-image-loader-wbmp --enable-image-loader-gif
--enable-image-loader-jp2k --enable-image-loader-png
--enable-image-loader-tiff --disable-image-loader-webp
--enable-image-loader-xpm --enable-cserve --enable-libmount
--enable-threads --enable-xinput22 --disable-gesture --disable-gstreamer
--disable-lua-old --disable-multisense --disable-tizen --disable-xinput2
--disable-xpresent --disable-pixman --disable-pixman-font
--disable-pixman-rect --disable-pixman-line --disable-pixman-poly
--disable-pixman-image --disable-pixman-image-scale-sample
--with-profile=release --with-glib=no --with-tests=none
--enable-i-really-know-what-i-am-doing-and-that-this-will-probably-break-things-and-i-will-fix-them-myself-and-send-patches-aba

ELM configured with: configure --prefix=/usr --build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
--host=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man
--infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc
--localstatedir=/var/lib --disable-dependency-tracking
--disable-silent-rules --libdir=/usr/lib64
--docdir=/usr/share/doc/elementary-1.12.2 --enable-shared --disable-static
--enable-ecore-x --enable-ecore-fb --disable-ecore-sdl
--disable-ecore-wayland --disable-ecore-cocoa --disable-ecore-psl1ght
--disable-ecore-win32 --disable-debug --disable-doc
--disable-build-examples --disable-install-examples --enable-nls
--disable-static --disable-quick-launch --disable-elocation --disable-emap
--disable-eweather --with-tests=none --with-elementary-web-backend=none

More debug info can be provided if necessary.

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Re: [e-users] Terminology: no tabs title if using zsh

2014-12-16 Thread toki clover
2014-12-16 12:29 GMT+01:00 Tom Hacohen tom.haco...@samsung.com:

 Same, but I had to set PROMPT_COMMAND to output the right escapes...



This is purely... bashism.

Wait, actually bash has no other facility to setup a prompt command/function
but define a function and then setup PROMPT_COMMAND environment
variable. I guess setting PS[1-4] up still work... but to have a
function/cmd
call to update a few things... is done throw setting up a function and
then...
defining PROMPT_COMMAND.

Well, zsh does not need this because it has a facility to setup the prompt
using the `prompt' helper by loading `autoload -Uz promptinit; promptinit'
and then setup a prompt theme by `prompt [OPTIONS] theme' with
a `promp_theme_setup' function definition.

What I am saying is that, relying on bash environment variable to setup
a Terminology title is too much of a bashism. Many term apps uses an escape
sequence starting with `\e]0;' for xterm/rxvt* or `\e_screen' for screen
etc...

I don't remember anymore which ones use TITLEBAR environment variable.
A search for title[bar] in terminfo(5) gives nothing...

What to do then? Use TITLEBAR env variable? ... Use bashism? ...

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Re: [e-users] [ANNOUNCE] e-gtk-theme-0.19.1 released (Enlightenment dark theme port to gtk+)

2014-12-07 Thread toki clover
2014-12-07 9:29 GMT+01:00 Massimo Maiurana maiurana... maiur...@gmail.com
:

 I've noticed that in textboxes of some web pages the characters I enter
 are the same color as the background, so basicaly invisible. One example
 is the input box on facebook, which is white on white, while the other
 text on the same page are black or something near to it.
 Is it fixable in some way? For facebook I switched to a darker theme
 using stylish, but of course I can't do it for every single site that
 requires it.


Well, this is a nasty issue for any dark theme out there because of two
things:

- First, firefox and chrome/ium hard code theme to have their BRAND-LOOK,
as GNOME/SystemD OS does now, to be sure to have their recognizable UI
no matter OS a user might be using. This is started after 4.0 release for
Mozilla
Firefox. I have no clue on Chrome/ium because I do not use any of them.

- Second, some websites force either the background or the forground color
making anything deviating from the standard black on white painful.

So, to solve this, many theme makers/developers follow blindly any BRAND
and waste too much time because one have to waste again and again time
to follow upstream breakages... In this case upstream(s) just decide to go
for more *BRANDY* UI infinitly.

So, a few themes makers compile a lengthy README file for major theme
breakers (namely GNOME/SystemD OS, Mozilla Firefox/Thunderbird,
Chrome/ium) to follow and follow each release to recode everything again.
What a waste of time! There's no way I am going that way.

There is no easy fix for this but waste sometimes and try to recode a theme
again as *BRANDY* upstream won't make it easy to choose to go otherwise.

So, if anybody want to contribute to firefox.stylish, or chrome/ium.stylish,
feel free to send patches.

There were this addon for firefox:
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/gtk-native/
but the developer is burnt out and did not update it since firefox 29.0.
And I do understand why he did not... Just take a look at it to see what one
has to undergo to force Firefox use native gtk theme.

UGLY FIX: one can choose to force system color when it is too painful in
Firefox preferences dialog. No clue on Chrome/ium for this.

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[e-users] [ANNOUNCE] e-gtk-theme-0.19.1 released (Enlightenment dark theme port to gtk+)

2014-12-06 Thread toki clover
Hello fellow E users,

Here comes a minor bug fixes of 0.19.0.

ChangeLog:
---
0.19.1:

gtk-[23]: tooltip (v2) update; use normal check/radio on hover;
removed entry outline glow;
gtk-3: use bevel curved in list (a la e);
---

A very minor bug fix which will have a greater impact on the visual of the
theme.
Alas, I could not add those new list separator on gtk-2 widgets (big mess
await
the adventurous ones.)

Lets take some real vacation from theming.

(Nothing found for the others issues/glitches listed in the README file.
If somebody found anything, feel free to send a patch.)

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Re: [e-users] [ANNOUNCE] e-gtk-theme-0.19.1 released (Enlightenment dark theme port to gtk+)

2014-12-06 Thread toki clover
(Again, forget the links.)

Release/Screenshots: http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=156023
HomePage: https://github.com/tokiclover/e-gtk-theme

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Re: [e-users] [ANNOUNCE] e-gtk-theme-0.19.0 released (Enlightenment dark theme port to gtk+)

2014-12-03 Thread toki clover
2014-12-03 11:46 GMT+01:00 Simon simon... si...@simotek.net:

 Keep up the good work, I guess I should make a Qt equivelent oneday.


No need for that since there is a gtk+2 theme, you just nee QGtkStyle
and configure qt to use gtk+-2 engine.
More info:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uniform_Look_for_Qt_and_GTK_Applications#QGtkStyle

I did use it in the past with this theme because I had a few qt apps
(notably SMplayer2 for Mplayer2, dead projects replaced by mpv).
And the looks was more than consistent. So no extra theming required here!

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Re: [e-users] [ANNOUNCE] e-gtk-theme-0.19.0 released (Enlightenment dark theme port to gtk+)

2014-12-03 Thread toki clover
2014-12-03 11:46 GMT+01:00 Simon si...@simotek.net:

 Nice work, I might need to have a look and see if i can intergrate with
 my scripts to make a couple more nice themes,

 http://simotek.net/tech/projects/linux-themes/darkmod-enlightenment-theme-converter/
 https://github.com/simotek/Enlightenment-Themes


Nice scripts... I was thinking of a lighter theme myself when preparing
0.19.0 release.
There are a (very?) few images to convert... minor a few customized mostly
by
gtk-2 theme (gtk-3 uses more stock images here.)

There are a few changes to consider before going that route. First I
cropped a little bit
the button to avoid awfull gigantic shadow in gtk-3 because there is no way
to crop
images internally a la gtk-2/pixmap engine. This is an easy revert, it
would just require
new optimization of button border. That cropping wasn't required in the
first place...
just to avoid gigantic shadow in gtk-3. (Still to much shadow in big
button/toolbar
despite cropping.)

The other consideration is, there a very few added images to theme
menu/check/radio
in gtk-2 because there is no way to do it easily but having a single image.
gtk-3 does
not suffer about this because of the css capabilities to support background
multilayers.
This can be alleviated by using file/overlay_file to compose 2 layers with
pixmap engine.

Other than those two consideration, automating a colorization is very easy.
And
those two point are not that difficult to overcome, it would just require a
bit more
tweaking to use more stock image and use something like convert (from
ImageMagick)
to compose check/radio button if necessary.

If your serious about it, I can consider doing that extra work. (I like the
new dark theme
but a more colorfull theme(s) will not certainly hurt!)

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Re: [e-users] [ANNOUNCE] e-gtk-theme-0.19.0 released (Enlightenment dark theme port to gtk+)

2014-12-03 Thread toki clover
2014-12-03 12:44 GMT+01:00 toki clover tokiclover... tokiclo...@gmail.com

If your serious about it, I can consider doing that extra work. (I like the
 new dark theme
 but a more colorfull theme(s) will not certainly hurt!)


I almost forget about it, a bigger issue is the scrollbar/trough... This
one would
require a little care with a script using convert or else... at hand.

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Re: [e-users] [ANNOUNCE] e-gtk-theme (Enlightenment gtk theme)

2014-12-03 Thread toki clover
2014-12-04 2:12 GMT+01:00 Will Hopper wjhopper...@gmail.com:

 Hi all,

 Sorry in advance for the beginners question, but I'm wondering how to know
 if I'm using the gtk3 or gtk2 theme? Can I choose in any way? I have both
 2.24 and 3.14 installed (debian), and I built and installed the package
 using make prefix=/usr install-all  as in the readme. It worked fine and
 I can select and use the 'e' theme from the 'applications theme' menu. But
 when installed it, I noticed the everything was installed under the gtk-2.0
 directory. And in the email it mentioned that the gtk3 theme was very good
 compared to the gtk2 one, and I just want to know what I'm getting, and try
 both if I can.

 And thanks for writing this! I've always hated having super obviously
 non-enlightenment themed stuff clashing with the dark theme, and now i
 don't!  Awesome!


First you should use both or `rm -fr' what you don't need if you know what
you're doing. Although you could remove openbox/metacity if you do not
need any of them.

You cannot remove gtk-2.0 drectory unless you know what you're doing...

You may read the 0.19.0 release announce to know a bit more about
what is better...

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[e-users] [ANNOUNCE] e-gtk-theme-0.19.0 released (Enlightenment dark theme port to gtk+)

2014-12-02 Thread toki clover
Hello fellow E users,

I did notice the interests and thanks of a few users in previous post.

Thanks Tom for posting in the official E twitter!

So here comes a new refresh as promised in the last post.

The ChangeLog says:
---
0.19.0:

gtk-[23]: tab-bar-v2: update/clean up notebook tabs (gtk-2 is better?/);
(idea: e.org tab like because e like tab are not possible especially for
gtk-2);
gtk-2: added inset shadow in entry; and use bevel-in frame in notebook;
gtk-2: use default fg_color for menubar; and new menu (v3);
---

Finished porting the theme to gtk+3.0. Well, gtk+-3.6 is a minimal
requirement
and the last change was made under gtk+-3.12. As gtk+ became libgnome with
ABI breakage on each release, I don't promise anything on older gtk+-3.12.

The gtk+-3 theme relies solely on gtk+ with no additional engine.

Well, what to say? I prefer gtk-2... it looks much better than gtk-3.
Pixmap engine rendering looks good. gtk-3 has only the notebook border (not
easy to get/do, nice hack!), shine effect, and tab bar right but the lack of
arrow/expander theming capabilities give gtk-2 a better looks.

Lets take some vaccation from theming then ;-).

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Re: [e-users] [ANNOUNCE] e-gtk-theme-0.19.0 released (Enlightenment dark theme port to gtk+)

2014-12-02 Thread toki clover
Almost forget usefull links:

Release/Screenshots: http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=156023
HomePage: https://github.com/tokiclover/e-gtk-theme

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Re: [e-users] [ANNOUNCE] e-gtk-theme-0.19.0 released (Enlightenment dark theme port to gtk+)

2014-12-02 Thread toki clover
2014-12-02 19:44 GMT+01:00 Massimo Maiurana maiur...@gmail.com:

 Hi Toki,
 using your theme I notice that when i hover a checkbox in a form the
 label text becomes blue, which is fine, and the box displays the check
 mark, which of course isn't fine at all :)


Which major gtk+ version... and whidget..?

Well, you should open an issue on issue tracker on github then.

Just a quick check revealed that: gtk-2 menu hover display check/radio
while gtk-3 does not;
and same behaviour in other widget (display check/radio on hover).
This is go along with displaying a button normal/clicked on hover,
although the behaviour is not consistent across widgets and major version.

I don't know what to think about it... Removing button/check/radio state is
easy.
Should I remove check/radio/buton state and just highlight only the text
instead?

I don't know. Thanks for reporting anyway, even if I was aware of it and
did not
take a consistent decision about it while enabling buton/check/radio state
change in 0.19.0.

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Re: [e-users] [ANNOUNCE] e-gtk-theme-0.19.0 released (Enlightenment dark theme port to gtk+)

2014-12-02 Thread toki clover
2014-12-02 21:25 GMT+01:00 Massimo Maiurana :

 I think it would be better, the way it is now is just confusing to me.
 Even better would be if on hovering the checkbox would get a tiny blue
 border, but I have no idea if it is really doable :)


I do understand the confusion. Actually checked check box get a little
blue-ish
highlight when highlighted and not checked one ones only a checked check.
(radio button lack this blue-ish effect.)

Border highlight is pointless because it does not match e default theme,
morever
it's extra work. (gtk-2 would require new check/radio images and gtk-3
would be
easy with the css capabilities.)

I will certainly not go that extra work way. So, let's ponder removing
check/radio
on hover.

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[e-users] [ANNOUNCE] e-gtk-theme (Enlightenment gtk theme)

2014-11-30 Thread toki clover
Hello fellow E users,

Just annoucing new releases of e-gtk-theme; current version is 0.18.4 which
is pretty
complete minor a very few annoying glitches.

I posted it there: http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=156023
with screenshots.

The project is hosted on github: https://github.com/tokiclover/e-gtk-theme

What's new? gtk+-3 theme is almost finished and would be much better than
gtk+-2
if arrows/expanders were themeable. I guess GNOME/SystemD OS devs don't have
any plans for that as arrow widget will be depracated in 3.14.

Anyway, gtk+-3 theme is very good compared to gt+-2 counterpart which
wasn't the case
before 3.6. (Painfull days, with zero docs as always, and very few
themeable widgets but
chosing a color.)

I plan to release 0.19.0 in a few days which have a visual departure from
older releases
because the tab-bar will defer greatly. Old tabs was a little awfull
because there is no
way to theme the whole tab-bar in gtk+-2 and the whole thing can be themed
in recent
gtk+-3. I just visited e.org today and remembered that the new darky site
is very good.
I liked that tab/menubar since... So I've just rolled exactly the same look
in gtk+-3 tab-bar and
tried to compose something with gtk+-2 which ended up being pretty good.

Well, let's not write a novel about it and stop right here. Who would
follow after that much anyway?

Thanks for your patience. I hope I did not get some snoring already!

Take care!

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