Re: [e-users] EFL 1.27.0 creation of RPM using spec/efl.spec.in

[aguador via enlightenment-users]

El dom, 03-03-2024 a las 07:34 +0100, Phil Otken escribió:
> Agreed. Am doing that now (RTFM). I'll make use of the existing
> efl.spec.in
> as an example. Plan is to look for a spec file already used to build
> an efl
> RPM; this is perhaps available in the EPEL packages. If successful,
> I'll
> post the method here.
> 
> You are correct, Carsten, I need to learn to make RPMs so that the
> system
> is more easily manageable, and so I can later update Enlightenment at
> will.
> It's a long drink of water, but the motivation is there. I'm writing
> an
> article about it on LI now.
> 
You can also check other rpm distros. For example you can easily get to
the SRMS in Mageia (via mirrors.mageia.org) and modify for Alpine and
efl-1.27.0. OpenMandriva already has an efl-1.27.0 package available.

Note: You are better off with a Fedora SRPM as there is variation in
the packaging rules followed across distros. The rpm world is not as
"unified" as the deb world.

Best,
Roy


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Re: [e-users] EFL 1.27.0 creation of RPM using spec/efl.spec.in

[Phil Otken]

Agreed. Am doing that now (RTFM). I'll make use of the existing efl.spec.in
as an example. Plan is to look for a spec file already used to build an efl
RPM; this is perhaps available in the EPEL packages. If successful, I'll
post the method here.

You are correct, Carsten, I need to learn to make RPMs so that the system
is more easily manageable, and so I can later update Enlightenment at will.
It's a long drink of water, but the motivation is there. I'm writing an
article about it on LI now.

On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 8:57 PM Carsten Haitzler 
wrote:

> On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 06:03:26 +0100 Phil Otken  said:
>
> no idea what this efl.spec.in is... the http ref is a placeholder website
> (domain squatter).
>
> but it seems you need to learn how to build packages - specifically rpm
> pkgs
> and they use .spec files to describe the packages metadata, how to build
> it and
> where/what files are installed and how they may be split into sub-packages.
>
> i suspect you probably need to start with tutorials on how to build
> rpm's...
> it's pretty easy. last time i did rpms was a few decades back but it's not
> hard and i picked it up with no manuals or tutorials - i simply read
> existing
> spec files and went "h that's the field i need" etc. - so it's not
> hard. :)
>
> > *Background*: I am in the process of re-building an Oracle Linux 9.3
> server
> > <
> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/rebuilding-linux-server-index-articles-overlogix-9tmvf
> >
> > (this is a downstream RHEL derivative, stable and conservative), got it
> to
> > compile yesterday and stopped there to *RTFM*.
> >
> > Currently installed are the latest Fedora packages as a temporary measure
> > while the build issues are sorted out. They work OK, but depend on
> Wayland,
> > and freeze the whole computer if the KVM switch is used. Undesirable,
> > unstable, hence the build.
> >
> > *Issue I need help with*: I see the file *spec/efl.spec.in
> > *, tried to find instructions to use it, didn't find
> > any. I gather this file is a template used to process somehow into a
> usable
> > *efl.spec*, which can in turn be used to process to a binary RPM package,
> > and possibly also a source RPM package, very desirable. I also suspect
> that
> > meson is used somehow to process this file, couldn't find appropriate
> > material after a lot of searching. Bard and ChatGPT confidently
> > hallucinated on the topic.
> >
> > Does anyone on this list have this type of packaging experience? How can
> > this file be used, and what are the steps? Please dumb it down for me to
> > fifth grader level; my expertise is elsewhere.
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > - Phil
> >
> > Phil Otken
> > Overlogix, Inc. 
> > also d.b.a.
> > Practical Software and Database Engineering, Inc.
> > c: +41 79 376 08 96
> > e-mail: phil.ot...@gmail.com
> > Online Professional Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/potken/
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>

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Thanks,
- Phil

Phil Otken
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also d.b.a.
Practical Software and Database Engineering, Inc.
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Re: [e-users] EFL 1.27.0 creation of RPM using spec/efl.spec.in

[Carsten Haitzler]

On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 06:03:26 +0100 Phil Otken  said:

no idea what this efl.spec.in is... the http ref is a placeholder website
(domain squatter).

but it seems you need to learn how to build packages - specifically rpm pkgs
and they use .spec files to describe the packages metadata, how to build it and
where/what files are installed and how they may be split into sub-packages.

i suspect you probably need to start with tutorials on how to build rpm's...
it's pretty easy. last time i did rpms was a few decades back but it's not
hard and i picked it up with no manuals or tutorials - i simply read existing
spec files and went "h that's the field i need" etc. - so it's not hard. :)

> *Background*: I am in the process of re-building an Oracle Linux 9.3 server
> 
> (this is a downstream RHEL derivative, stable and conservative), got it to
> compile yesterday and stopped there to *RTFM*.
> 
> Currently installed are the latest Fedora packages as a temporary measure
> while the build issues are sorted out. They work OK, but depend on Wayland,
> and freeze the whole computer if the KVM switch is used. Undesirable,
> unstable, hence the build.
> 
> *Issue I need help with*: I see the file *spec/efl.spec.in
> *, tried to find instructions to use it, didn't find
> any. I gather this file is a template used to process somehow into a usable
> *efl.spec*, which can in turn be used to process to a binary RPM package,
> and possibly also a source RPM package, very desirable. I also suspect that
> meson is used somehow to process this file, couldn't find appropriate
> material after a lot of searching. Bard and ChatGPT confidently
> hallucinated on the topic.
> 
> Does anyone on this list have this type of packaging experience? How can
> this file be used, and what are the steps? Please dumb it down for me to
> fifth grader level; my expertise is elsewhere.
> 
> -- 
> Thanks,
> - Phil
> 
> Phil Otken
> Overlogix, Inc. 
> also d.b.a.
> Practical Software and Database Engineering, Inc.
> c: +41 79 376 08 96
> e-mail: phil.ot...@gmail.com
> Online Professional Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/potken/
> 
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Re: [e-users] EFL 1.27.0 creation of RPM using spec/efl.spec.in

[Vincent Torri]

On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 6:04 AM Phil Otken  wrote:
>
> *Background*: I am in the process of re-building an Oracle Linux 9.3 server
> 
> (this is a downstream RHEL derivative, stable and conservative), got it to
> compile yesterday and stopped there to *RTFM*.
>
> Currently installed are the latest Fedora packages as a temporary measure
> while the build issues are sorted out. They work OK, but depend on Wayland,
> and freeze the whole computer if the KVM switch is used. Undesirable,
> unstable, hence the build.
>
> *Issue I need help with*: I see the file *spec/efl.spec.in
> *, tried to find instructions to use it, didn't find
> any. I gather this file is a template used to process somehow into a usable
> *efl.spec*, which can in turn be used to process to a binary RPM package,
> and possibly also a source RPM package, very desirable. I also suspect that
> meson is used somehow to process this file, couldn't find appropriate
> material after a lot of searching. Bard and ChatGPT confidently
> hallucinated on the topic.
>
> Does anyone on this list have this type of packaging experience? How can
> this file be used, and what are the steps? Please dumb it down for me to
> fifth grader level; my expertise is elsewhere.

hello

i've no experience in building an rpm package but here are some hints anyway:
 * efl.spec.in are files where some content between 2 arobase (@) are
replaced with a value. Here it is @VERSION@
* to have a correct efl.spec, just copy efl.spec.in to efl.spec and
replace @VERSION@ to
1.26.0 or whatever version of the EFL you have downloaded
* then build the rpm from this spec file

note that the file is old and changes in the EFL have been done. You
should find an efl.spec from a distro instead of using it

regards

Vincent Torri


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[e-users] EFL 1.27.0 creation of RPM using spec/efl.spec.in

[Phil Otken]

*Background*: I am in the process of re-building an Oracle Linux 9.3 server

(this is a downstream RHEL derivative, stable and conservative), got it to
compile yesterday and stopped there to *RTFM*.

Currently installed are the latest Fedora packages as a temporary measure
while the build issues are sorted out. They work OK, but depend on Wayland,
and freeze the whole computer if the KVM switch is used. Undesirable,
unstable, hence the build.

*Issue I need help with*: I see the file *spec/efl.spec.in
*, tried to find instructions to use it, didn't find
any. I gather this file is a template used to process somehow into a usable
*efl.spec*, which can in turn be used to process to a binary RPM package,
and possibly also a source RPM package, very desirable. I also suspect that
meson is used somehow to process this file, couldn't find appropriate
material after a lot of searching. Bard and ChatGPT confidently
hallucinated on the topic.

Does anyone on this list have this type of packaging experience? How can
this file be used, and what are the steps? Please dumb it down for me to
fifth grader level; my expertise is elsewhere.

-- 
Thanks,
- Phil

Phil Otken
Overlogix, Inc. 
also d.b.a.
Practical Software and Database Engineering, Inc.
c: +41 79 376 08 96
e-mail: phil.ot...@gmail.com
Online Professional Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/potken/

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