Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Request for feedback: a MSI installer of Firefox

2017-08-22 Thread Jason Jackson
Yes, let's not forget that MSI is Windows only.  With CCK2, we can use the same 
config files on different OS.  We deploy a lot of applications with SCCM, and 
in my opinion, the MSI-based ones aren't any better or easier.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Enterprise [mailto:enterprise-boun...@mozilla.org] On Behalf Of
> James M. Pulver
> Sent: August 22, 2017 11:50 AM
> To: enterprise@mozilla.org
> Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Request for feedback: a MSI installer of
> Firefox
> 
> Personally, I like the current setup once I got Puppet going. The reason is
> consistent configuration for Windows, Linux and Mac. I wouldn't want to do 2
> or more attempts to apply the same configuration across the platforms, at
> that point, I lose a lot of benefit from Firefox.
> 
> James Pulver
> CLASSE Computer Group
> Cornell University
> 
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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Request for feedback: a MSI installer of Firefox

2017-08-22 Thread James M. Pulver
Personally, I like the current setup once I got Puppet going. The reason 
is consistent configuration for Windows, Linux and Mac. I wouldn't want 
to do 2 or more attempts to apply the same configuration across the 
platforms, at that point, I lose a lot of benefit from Firefox.


James Pulver
CLASSE Computer Group
Cornell University

On 08/22/2017 03:13 AM, Alexandre Gauvrit wrote:

+1

If finally Mozilla would release an official Firefox MSI package, it 
would be good to follow previous comments on the real goals of an MSI 
package.


  * deploy Firefox through GPO for medium to big structures
  * manage Firefox system preferences (default proxy, extensions,
security settings,etc)
  * manage Firefox users preferences  (homepage, disable profile
migration from IE, etc)
  * provide for that a correct set of ADM/ADMX file
  * provide a MST Wizard like Microsoft Office'one

Many of us here already have found a workaround to the lack of an 
official MSI package, by repackaging it (FrontMotion, custom MSI, third 
party tool like WAPT/WPKG/etc.) or using dirty old Batch/VBS/PS scripts.


Personaly I would not be "that relieved" if Mozilla's MSI package would 
come out in next months, as we already implemented equivalents doing the 
job, however it's always good to get things normalized.


PS : "And Firefox should permit to use the certificates installed in 
Windows, like in Internet Explorer." it's already the case using 
security.enterprise_roots.enabled


Alexandre

On 22/08/2017 08:41, Luca Manganelli wrote:

Il 21/08/2017 15:53, Mikko Järvinen ha scritto:
If Mozilla is going to provide msi packages of their products the 
whole process must be seamlessly integrated into the automated build 
process. Every single resource, like files and registry settings, 
must belong into a one and only one Windows Installer component, 
which will be part of Windows Installer features, which eventually 
define and will be part of the msi package.


+1. In a large organization, it's MUCH more less painfully to 
configure Firefox preferences with a Group Policy. This way permits 
you to set different configurations for OU/Groups. And Firefox should 
permit to use the certificates installed in Windows, like in Internet 
Explorer.



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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Request for feedback: a MSI installer of Firefox

2017-08-22 Thread Alexandre Gauvrit

+1

If finally Mozilla would release an official Firefox MSI package, it 
would be good to follow previous comments on the real goals of an MSI 
package.


 * deploy Firefox through GPO for medium to big structures
 * manage Firefox system preferences (default proxy, extensions,
   security settings,etc)
 * manage Firefox users preferences  (homepage, disable profile
   migration from IE, etc)
 * provide for that a correct set of ADM/ADMX file
 * provide a MST Wizard like Microsoft Office'one

Many of us here already have found a workaround to the lack of an 
official MSI package, by repackaging it (FrontMotion, custom MSI, third 
party tool like WAPT/WPKG/etc.) or using dirty old Batch/VBS/PS scripts.


Personaly I would not be "that relieved" if Mozilla's MSI package would 
come out in next months, as we already implemented equivalents doing the 
job, however it's always good to get things normalized.


PS : "And Firefox should permit to use the certificates installed in 
Windows, like in Internet Explorer." it's already the case using 
security.enterprise_roots.enabled


Alexandre

On 22/08/2017 08:41, Luca Manganelli wrote:

Il 21/08/2017 15:53, Mikko Järvinen ha scritto:
If Mozilla is going to provide msi packages of their products the 
whole process must be seamlessly integrated into the automated build 
process. Every single resource, like files and registry settings, 
must belong into a one and only one Windows Installer component, 
which will be part of Windows Installer features, which eventually 
define and will be part of the msi package.


+1. In a large organization, it's MUCH more less painfully to 
configure Firefox preferences with a Group Policy. This way permits 
you to set different configurations for OU/Groups. And Firefox should 
permit to use the certificates installed in Windows, like in Internet 
Explorer.



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Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Request for feedback: a MSI installer of Firefox

2017-08-22 Thread Luca Manganelli

Il 21/08/2017 15:53, Mikko Järvinen ha scritto:
If Mozilla is going to provide msi packages of their products the whole 
process must be seamlessly integrated into the automated build process. 
Every single resource, like files and registry settings, must belong 
into a one and only one Windows Installer component, which will be part 
of Windows Installer features, which eventually define and will be part 
of the msi package.


+1. In a large organization, it's MUCH more less painfully to configure 
Firefox preferences with a Group Policy. This way permits you to set 
different configurations for OU/Groups. And Firefox should permit to use 
the certificates installed in Windows, like in Internet Explorer.



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