[EPEL-devel] Re: Playground policy

2020-05-01 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, May 01, 2020 at 10:48:54AM -0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> 
> 
> On 5/1/20 1:10 AM, Petr Pisar wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 12:32:26PM -0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> > > Generally speaking (I can make this a separate thread if that helps) - do 
> > > we
> > > expect every package in EPEL8 to also be built for EPEL8-playground, 
> > > either
> > > through package.cfg or by building directly from the epel8-playground
> > > branch?
> > 
> > There is no such rule, but in my opinion, it is welcomed for exactly the 
> > terrible
> > experience anybody gets when he tries to use epel8-playground.
> > 
> Right, but if some package repos are missing packages.cfg and the maintainer
> does not build it separately for epel8-playground, it is a terrible
> experience for other packages depending on this missing package -- everytime
> the maintainer submits an epel8 build, the epel8-playground target will
> report a build failure.

There was no 'rule' but the intent was everyone would keep the
package.cfg and build for both. If they were not making any playground
changes, they didn't need to commit anything, and fedpkg build would
just build for both epel8 and epel8-playground. 

The problem is that the packages.cfg commit annoys everyone who does a
'merge origin/master' because it's not on the master branch, so they
delete it to get their workflow back.

I'd like to look at seeing if we can accomplish what we wanted with
playground by having it just inherit from epel8.

Failing that, we could just look at dropping playground if it's not
useful for people. 

> > The purpose of epel8-playground is to diverge when needed. That's why the 
> > epel8
> > branch contains package.cfg by default.
> > 
> That seems to be the case for packages branched normally (fedpkg
> request-branch). *However* I've seen some packages where the epel8 branch
> and master branch are identical -- not sure how it happens, maybe the
> committer has force-push permission? Or is there a way to request that a
> branch be cloned from another branch instead of created from scratch?

There's no force-push allowed. They likely just deleted it and are
merging master over it. 

kevin


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[EPEL-devel] Re: Python macro backports for EPEL reviews needed

2020-05-01 Thread Troy Dawson
On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 9:36 AM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
>
> On 14. 04. 20 19:04, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > On 14. 04. 20 18:46, Troy Dawson wrote:
> >> Yep, I'm having a hard time finding anything relevant to test.
> >> I have verified it doesn't conflict with any other rpm macro, but I'm
> >> pretty sure you had already checked that.
> >> So, I'm giving it a thumbs up.
> >> And I'll give it a thumbs up on the pull requests as well.
> >
> >
> > EPEL 7 update and buildroot override:
> > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2020-3c0bec7842
> > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/overrides/epel-rpm-macros-7-24
> >
> >
> > EPEL 8 update and buildroot override:
> > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2020-d2bb92fb39
> > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/overrides/epel-rpm-macros-8-10
> >
> >
> > I've disabled both time based and karma based push. We can observe the EPEL
> > builds and decide whether to push this or not in ~1 month.
>
> My EPEL 8 update got overridden by a new one.
>

Ya, sorry about the timing for that.
I kept your changes in, but I wanted something in override fairly
quick so packages that needed python could build.
I guess I should have just done the override, and not bodhi.
It's second nature for me to push things to bodhi when I build them so
I don't forget about them.

I haven't heard or seen any problems with your macros.
And what I have up there probably isn't going to be the final fix for
the python36/38 problem.
I've never un-updated anything, and I'm not sure if it will make it
possible for your packages to be pushed to stable.
But, if there is a simple way, I'm fine with pushing your updates out
to stable for epel8

> I suggest I push the EPEL 7 one, there was no reported breakage.
>

Sounds good.

> > In case something is needed for EPEL 8 Playground, please do so, I have no 
> > idea
> > really, sorry about that.
>
> Still no idea what is the story there.
>
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[EPEL-devel] Re: Playground policy

2020-05-01 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim



On 5/1/20 1:10 AM, Petr Pisar wrote:

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 12:32:26PM -0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:

Generally speaking (I can make this a separate thread if that helps) - do we
expect every package in EPEL8 to also be built for EPEL8-playground, either
through package.cfg or by building directly from the epel8-playground
branch?


There is no such rule, but in my opinion, it is welcomed for exactly the 
terrible
experience anybody gets when he tries to use epel8-playground.

Right, but if some package repos are missing packages.cfg and the 
maintainer does not build it separately for epel8-playground, it is a 
terrible experience for other packages depending on this missing package 
-- everytime the maintainer submits an epel8 build, the epel8-playground 
target will report a build failure.



The purpose of epel8-playground is to diverge when needed. That's why the epel8
branch contains package.cfg by default.

That seems to be the case for packages branched normally (fedpkg 
request-branch). *However* I've seen some packages where the epel8 
branch and master branch are identical -- not sure how it happens, maybe 
the committer has force-push permission? Or is there a way to request 
that a branch be cloned from another branch instead of created from scratch?


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[EPEL-devel] Re: Python macro backports for EPEL reviews needed

2020-05-01 Thread Miro Hrončok

On 14. 04. 20 19:04, Miro Hrončok wrote:

On 14. 04. 20 18:46, Troy Dawson wrote:

Yep, I'm having a hard time finding anything relevant to test.
I have verified it doesn't conflict with any other rpm macro, but I'm
pretty sure you had already checked that.
So, I'm giving it a thumbs up.
And I'll give it a thumbs up on the pull requests as well.



EPEL 7 update and buildroot override:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2020-3c0bec7842
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/overrides/epel-rpm-macros-7-24


EPEL 8 update and buildroot override:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2020-d2bb92fb39
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/overrides/epel-rpm-macros-8-10


I've disabled both time based and karma based push. We can observe the EPEL 
builds and decide whether to push this or not in ~1 month.


My EPEL 8 update got overridden by a new one.

I suggest I push the EPEL 7 one, there was no reported breakage.

In case something is needed for EPEL 8 Playground, please do so, I have no idea 
really, sorry about that.


Still no idea what is the story there.

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[EPEL-devel] Re: Looking for someone to take ngircd in EPEL

2020-05-01 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 08:39:48PM -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> Anyone willing to take over ngircd for EPEL?
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1830182

Sure. I can do that. Will add it to my list. 

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[EPEL-devel] Re: Broken %python_provide macro for Koji's epel8-playground target?

2020-05-01 Thread Petr Pisar
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 12:32:26PM -0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> Generally speaking (I can make this a separate thread if that helps) - do we
> expect every package in EPEL8 to also be built for EPEL8-playground, either
> through package.cfg or by building directly from the epel8-playground
> branch?

There is no such rule, but in my opinion, it is welcomed for exactly the 
terrible
experience anybody gets when he tries to use epel8-playground.

The purpose of epel8-playground is to diverge when needed. That's why the epel8
branch contains package.cfg by default.

-- Petr


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[EPEL-devel] Re: Looking for someone to take ngircd in EPEL

2020-05-01 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 01/05/2020 à 04:39, Orion Poplawski a écrit :
> Anyone willing to take over ngircd for EPEL?
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1830182

On a side note : this package is appreciated here.

Last week I published a detailed article about NgIRCd running on CentOS 7.

https://blog.microlinux.fr/ngircd-letsencrypt-centos-7/

Cheers from the sunny South of France,

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