Re: EPEL Deprecated Django 1.5 in

2014-10-02 Thread Stephen Gallagher



On Thu, 2014-10-02 at 12:57 +0300, Dionysis Grigoropoulos wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 10:33:07PM +0200, Matthias Runge wrote:
  On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 01:28:04PM +0300, Dionysis Grigoropoulos wrote:
   Hello,
   
   as far as I can see, EPEL 7 currently provides packages `python-django`
   and `python-django15` being versions 1.6.5 and 1.5.6 respectively. EPEL
   6 provides `python-django15` and `Django14` being 1.5.6 and 1.4.14.
   
   According to the Django documentation [1], since version 1.7 was
   released, version 1.5 won't receive security updates anymore. Wouldn't
   it be better to remove python-django15 from both repos and add 1.4
   (current LTS which will be supported at least until March of 2015) to
   EPEL 7 and 1.6 to epel 6?
  
  Thank you for the heads-up.
  
  I recently retired python-django15 from Fedora 21+, and I should do the
  same ASAP for EPEL6 and EPEL7 as well.
  
  (THIS IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT REMOVAL in about two weeks.)
  
  About adding Django14 to EPEL7: Since there is currently Django-1.6,
  which is supported until March 2015 as well, I don't see any pro to add
  another Django version. The other reason is: having two versions in the
  same release is just a pain; I'd try to avoid this; they need to be
  installable in parallel. We had that, it didn't work very well.
  
  Does this make any sense?
  Matthias
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  Matthias Runge mru...@matthias-runge.de
 
 Thank you for the quick reply Matthias.
 
 Yes, it makes sense not having two versions of the same software in the
 same release. I've had issues with that myself in the past, notably with
 sqlalchemy in EPEL 6.
 
 My only concern about Django 1.6, is that it's a bit too bleeding edge
 to my taste and a lot of projects on the web still need Django 1.4 due
 to its LTS nature.



It's technically an LTS, but it's still ending support in just a few
months. If we include it in EPEL 7 now, we're effectively committing to
support it a LOT longer than upstream will. I suspect that Matthias
isn't willing to take on that responsibility. However, if you or someone
else wanted to own it, I'm sure Matthias would help you get it off the
ground...


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EPEL Deprecated Django 1.5 in

2014-10-01 Thread Dionysis Grigoropoulos
Hello,

as far as I can see, EPEL 7 currently provides packages `python-django`
and `python-django15` being versions 1.6.5 and 1.5.6 respectively. EPEL
6 provides `python-django15` and `Django14` being 1.5.6 and 1.4.14.

According to the Django documentation [1], since version 1.7 was
released, version 1.5 won't receive security updates anymore. Wouldn't
it be better to remove python-django15 from both repos and add 1.4
(current LTS which will be supported at least until March of 2015) to
EPEL 7 and 1.6 to epel 6?

Thank you in advance,
Dionysis

[1]: 
https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/internals/release-process/#supported-versions
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Re: EPEL Deprecated Django 1.5 in

2014-10-01 Thread Matthias Runge
On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 01:28:04PM +0300, Dionysis Grigoropoulos wrote:
 Hello,
 
 as far as I can see, EPEL 7 currently provides packages `python-django`
 and `python-django15` being versions 1.6.5 and 1.5.6 respectively. EPEL
 6 provides `python-django15` and `Django14` being 1.5.6 and 1.4.14.
 
 According to the Django documentation [1], since version 1.7 was
 released, version 1.5 won't receive security updates anymore. Wouldn't
 it be better to remove python-django15 from both repos and add 1.4
 (current LTS which will be supported at least until March of 2015) to
 EPEL 7 and 1.6 to epel 6?

Thank you for the heads-up.

I recently retired python-django15 from Fedora 21+, and I should do the
same ASAP for EPEL6 and EPEL7 as well.

(THIS IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT REMOVAL in about two weeks.)

About adding Django14 to EPEL7: Since there is currently Django-1.6,
which is supported until March 2015 as well, I don't see any pro to add
another Django version. The other reason is: having two versions in the
same release is just a pain; I'd try to avoid this; they need to be
installable in parallel. We had that, it didn't work very well.

Does this make any sense?
Matthias
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Re: EPEL Deprecated Django 1.5 in

2014-10-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 1 October 2014 14:33, Matthias Runge mru...@matthias-runge.de wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 01:28:04PM +0300, Dionysis Grigoropoulos wrote:
  Hello,
 
  as far as I can see, EPEL 7 currently provides packages `python-django`
  and `python-django15` being versions 1.6.5 and 1.5.6 respectively. EPEL
  6 provides `python-django15` and `Django14` being 1.5.6 and 1.4.14.
 
  According to the Django documentation [1], since version 1.7 was
  released, version 1.5 won't receive security updates anymore. Wouldn't
  it be better to remove python-django15 from both repos and add 1.4
  (current LTS which will be supported at least until March of 2015) to
  EPEL 7 and 1.6 to epel 6?

 Thank you for the heads-up.

 I recently retired python-django15 from Fedora 21+, and I should do the
 same ASAP for EPEL6 and EPEL7 as well.

 (THIS IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT REMOVAL in about two weeks.)

 About adding Django14 to EPEL7: Since there is currently Django-1.6,
 which is supported until March 2015 as well, I don't see any pro to add
 another Django version. The other reason is: having two versions in the
 same release is just a pain; I'd try to avoid this; they need to be
 installable in parallel. We had that, it didn't work very well.

 Does this make any sense?


This makes sense to me. Having tried to make other items parallelable (or
whatever the word is) when the upstream has no clue why anyone would want
to do that... it is a complete cluster f* for the packager.



 Matthias
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