Re: EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-03 Thread Dan Horák
On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 21:29:19 +0200
Simone Caronni  wrote:

> On 2 June 2014 16:46, T.C. Hollingsworth 
> wrote:
> 
> > I'd suggest filing a bug in bugzilla first, explaining the pain this
> > causes downstream addon repositories like EPEL.  For all we know the
> > -devel subpackage is only missing in Server due to some oversight.
> >
> 
> Apparently Redhat does not like this, the bug was quickly closed:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1104099#c2

I'm not sure what the real problem is, there is
http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhel/rc/7/Server/x86_64/os/Packages/jansson-2.4-6.el7.x86_64.rpm
and
http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhel/rc/7/Server-optional/x86_64/os/Packages/jansson-devel-2.4-6.el7.x86_64.rpm
so there should not be any problem with a package in EPEL-7 depending
on jansson as EPEL uses both Server and Server-optional channels for
the buildroots. Do you have a link for the failed build?


Dan
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Re: EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-03 Thread Simone Caronni
On 2 June 2014 16:46, T.C. Hollingsworth  wrote:

> I'd suggest filing a bug in bugzilla first, explaining the pain this
> causes downstream addon repositories like EPEL.  For all we know the
> -devel subpackage is only missing in Server due to some oversight.
>

Apparently Redhat does not like this, the bug was quickly closed:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1104099#c2



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Re: EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-03 Thread Simone Caronni
On 3 June 2014 11:29, T.C. Hollingsworth  wrote:

> You can file a bug with RHEL rel-eng here:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Red%20Hat%20Enterprise%20Linux%207&component=releng&version=7.0
>
> Of course, supporting Workstation in general would be very nice, so
> your other ticket is warranted, but I think getting this particular
> problem fixed on the RHEL side would still be a good idea regardless
> of the outcome of that.
>

Bug filed with an edited text from the releng one.

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Re: EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-03 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 1:29 AM, Simone Caronni  wrote:
> On 2 June 2014 16:46, T.C. Hollingsworth  wrote:
>> I'd suggest filing a bug in bugzilla first, explaining the pain this
>> causes downstream addon repositories like EPEL.  For all we know the
>> -devel subpackage is only missing in Server due to some oversight.
>
> Opened this one, hope it's correct:
>
> https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5915

Well actually I meant to ask RHEL release engineering to add
jansson-devel to the Server repository along with the main jansson
package.  It seems kind of silly to have the main package in Server
and the -devel package in Workstation.

You can file a bug with RHEL rel-eng here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Red%20Hat%20Enterprise%20Linux%207&component=releng&version=7.0

Of course, supporting Workstation in general would be very nice, so
your other ticket is warranted, but I think getting this particular
problem fixed on the RHEL side would still be a good idea regardless
of the outcome of that.

-T.C.
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Re: EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-03 Thread Simone Caronni
On 2 June 2014 16:46, T.C. Hollingsworth  wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 1:59 AM, Simone Caronni 
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I was looking to build a package on epel7 that is relying on
> jansson-devel.
> >
> > The -devel subpackage is generated as normally from the main jansson
> > package, but in case of epel7 the resulting rpm is included in the
> > Workstation-optional channel:
> >
> >
> http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhel/rc/7/Workstation-optional/x86_64/os/Packages/
> >
> > Have these packages being left out intentionally or not?
> > Is there any chance to see these packages added in Koji? Otherwise
> building
> > for epel7 can get really complicated.
>
> I'd suggest filing a bug in bugzilla first, explaining the pain this
> causes downstream addon repositories like EPEL.  For all we know the
> -devel subpackage is only missing in Server due to some oversight.


Opened this one, hope it's correct:

https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5915

Thanks & regards,
--Simone




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Re: EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-02 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 1:59 AM, Simone Caronni  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I was looking to build a package on epel7 that is relying on jansson-devel.
>
> The -devel subpackage is generated as normally from the main jansson
> package, but in case of epel7 the resulting rpm is included in the
> Workstation-optional channel:
>
> http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhel/rc/7/Workstation-optional/x86_64/os/Packages/
>
> Have these packages being left out intentionally or not?
> Is there any chance to see these packages added in Koji? Otherwise building
> for epel7 can get really complicated.

I'd suggest filing a bug in bugzilla first, explaining the pain this
causes downstream addon repositories like EPEL.  For all we know the
-devel subpackage is only missing in Server due to some oversight.

-T.C.
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Re: EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-02 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 11:14:52AM +0200, Simone Caronni wrote:

> It is quite strange actually. Normally, if a package is not included in the
> base distribution, we can add it. If it is already included we never
> replace the upstream package.
> 
> By using only server and server-optional we have the weird case where only
> half of the package can be used. Jansson specific, I cannot add jansson to
> epel because it is already included, but I cannot use it because the
> jansson-devel is omitted and only half of the resulting binary rpms are
> used.
>
> I hope this gets reviewed in the future.

You can propose to do something like this:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL:Packaging#Limited_Arch_Packages

Regards
Till
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Re: EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-02 Thread Simone Caronni
On 2 June 2014 11:09, Simone Caronni  wrote:

> On 2 June 2014 11:04, Dan Horák  wrote:
>
>> EPEL builds against the Server + Server-optional variant of RHEL -
>> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taginfo?tagID=258
>>
>
> Is this the final "setup" of EPEL for RHEL 7 that will be available for
> all the time the distribution is supported by Redhat?
>

It is quite strange actually. Normally, if a package is not included in the
base distribution, we can add it. If it is already included we never
replace the upstream package.

By using only server and server-optional we have the weird case where only
half of the package can be used. Jansson specific, I cannot add jansson to
epel because it is already included, but I cannot use it because the
jansson-devel is omitted and only half of the resulting binary rpms are
used.

I hope this gets reviewed in the future.

--Simone



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Re: EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-02 Thread Simone Caronni
On 2 June 2014 11:04, Dan Horák  wrote:

> EPEL builds against the Server + Server-optional variant of RHEL -
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taginfo?tagID=258
>

Is this the final "setup" of EPEL for RHEL 7 that will be available for all
the time the distribution is supported by Redhat?

Thanks,
--Simone

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Re: EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-02 Thread Dan Horák
On Mon, 2 Jun 2014 10:59:48 +0200
Simone Caronni  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I was looking to build a package on epel7 that is relying on
> jansson-devel.
> 
> The -devel subpackage is generated as normally from the main jansson
> package, but in case of epel7 the resulting rpm is included in the
> Workstation-optional channel:
> 
> http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhel/rc/7/Workstation-optional/x86_64/os/Packages/
> 
> Have these packages being left out intentionally or not?
> Is there any chance to see these packages added in Koji? Otherwise
> building for epel7 can get really complicated.

EPEL builds against the Server + Server-optional variant of RHEL -
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taginfo?tagID=258


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EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-02 Thread Simone Caronni
Hello,

I was looking to build a package on epel7 that is relying on jansson-devel.

The -devel subpackage is generated as normally from the main jansson
package, but in case of epel7 the resulting rpm is included in the
Workstation-optional channel:

http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhel/rc/7/Workstation-optional/x86_64/os/Packages/

Have these packages being left out intentionally or not?
Is there any chance to see these packages added in Koji? Otherwise building
for epel7 can get really complicated.

Thanks & regards,
--Simone


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