Re: EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-03 Thread Simone Caronni
On 2 June 2014 16:46, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 1:59 AM, Simone Caronni negativ...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I was looking to build a package on epel7 that is relying on
 jansson-devel.
 
  The -devel subpackage is generated as normally from the main jansson
  package, but in case of epel7 the resulting rpm is included in the
  Workstation-optional channel:
 
 
 http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhel/rc/7/Workstation-optional/x86_64/os/Packages/
 
  Have these packages being left out intentionally or not?
  Is there any chance to see these packages added in Koji? Otherwise
 building
  for epel7 can get really complicated.

 I'd suggest filing a bug in bugzilla first, explaining the pain this
 causes downstream addon repositories like EPEL.  For all we know the
 -devel subpackage is only missing in Server due to some oversight.


Opened this one, hope it's correct:

https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5915

Thanks  regards,
--Simone




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Re: EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-03 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 1:29 AM, Simone Caronni negativ...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2 June 2014 16:46, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd suggest filing a bug in bugzilla first, explaining the pain this
 causes downstream addon repositories like EPEL.  For all we know the
 -devel subpackage is only missing in Server due to some oversight.

 Opened this one, hope it's correct:

 https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5915

Well actually I meant to ask RHEL release engineering to add
jansson-devel to the Server repository along with the main jansson
package.  It seems kind of silly to have the main package in Server
and the -devel package in Workstation.

You can file a bug with RHEL rel-eng here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Red%20Hat%20Enterprise%20Linux%207component=relengversion=7.0

Of course, supporting Workstation in general would be very nice, so
your other ticket is warranted, but I think getting this particular
problem fixed on the RHEL side would still be a good idea regardless
of the outcome of that.

-T.C.
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Re: EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-03 Thread Simone Caronni
On 3 June 2014 11:29, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can file a bug with RHEL rel-eng here:

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Red%20Hat%20Enterprise%20Linux%207component=relengversion=7.0

 Of course, supporting Workstation in general would be very nice, so
 your other ticket is warranted, but I think getting this particular
 problem fixed on the RHEL side would still be a good idea regardless
 of the outcome of that.


Bug filed with an edited text from the releng one.

Regards,
--Simone

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EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-02 Thread Simone Caronni
Hello,

I was looking to build a package on epel7 that is relying on jansson-devel.

The -devel subpackage is generated as normally from the main jansson
package, but in case of epel7 the resulting rpm is included in the
Workstation-optional channel:

http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhel/rc/7/Workstation-optional/x86_64/os/Packages/

Have these packages being left out intentionally or not?
Is there any chance to see these packages added in Koji? Otherwise building
for epel7 can get really complicated.

Thanks  regards,
--Simone


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Re: EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-02 Thread Dan Horák
On Mon, 2 Jun 2014 10:59:48 +0200
Simone Caronni negativ...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I was looking to build a package on epel7 that is relying on
 jansson-devel.
 
 The -devel subpackage is generated as normally from the main jansson
 package, but in case of epel7 the resulting rpm is included in the
 Workstation-optional channel:
 
 http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhel/rc/7/Workstation-optional/x86_64/os/Packages/
 
 Have these packages being left out intentionally or not?
 Is there any chance to see these packages added in Koji? Otherwise
 building for epel7 can get really complicated.

EPEL builds against the Server + Server-optional variant of RHEL -
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taginfo?tagID=258


Dan
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Re: EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-02 Thread Simone Caronni
On 2 June 2014 11:04, Dan Horák d...@danny.cz wrote:

 EPEL builds against the Server + Server-optional variant of RHEL -
 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taginfo?tagID=258


Is this the final setup of EPEL for RHEL 7 that will be available for all
the time the distribution is supported by Redhat?

Thanks,
--Simone

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Re: EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-02 Thread Simone Caronni
On 2 June 2014 11:09, Simone Caronni negativ...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 2 June 2014 11:04, Dan Horák d...@danny.cz wrote:

 EPEL builds against the Server + Server-optional variant of RHEL -
 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taginfo?tagID=258


 Is this the final setup of EPEL for RHEL 7 that will be available for
 all the time the distribution is supported by Redhat?


It is quite strange actually. Normally, if a package is not included in the
base distribution, we can add it. If it is already included we never
replace the upstream package.

By using only server and server-optional we have the weird case where only
half of the package can be used. Jansson specific, I cannot add jansson to
epel because it is already included, but I cannot use it because the
jansson-devel is omitted and only half of the resulting binary rpms are
used.

I hope this gets reviewed in the future.

--Simone



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Re: EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-02 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 11:14:52AM +0200, Simone Caronni wrote:

 It is quite strange actually. Normally, if a package is not included in the
 base distribution, we can add it. If it is already included we never
 replace the upstream package.
 
 By using only server and server-optional we have the weird case where only
 half of the package can be used. Jansson specific, I cannot add jansson to
 epel because it is already included, but I cannot use it because the
 jansson-devel is omitted and only half of the resulting binary rpms are
 used.

 I hope this gets reviewed in the future.

You can propose to do something like this:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL:Packaging#Limited_Arch_Packages

Regards
Till
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Re: EPEL RHEL 7 Workstation optional channel in Fedora's Koji

2014-06-02 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 1:59 AM, Simone Caronni negativ...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I was looking to build a package on epel7 that is relying on jansson-devel.

 The -devel subpackage is generated as normally from the main jansson
 package, but in case of epel7 the resulting rpm is included in the
 Workstation-optional channel:

 http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/rhel/rc/7/Workstation-optional/x86_64/os/Packages/

 Have these packages being left out intentionally or not?
 Is there any chance to see these packages added in Koji? Otherwise building
 for epel7 can get really complicated.

I'd suggest filing a bug in bugzilla first, explaining the pain this
causes downstream addon repositories like EPEL.  For all we know the
-devel subpackage is only missing in Server due to some oversight.

-T.C.
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