Re: [Europython-improve] [EuroPython] Work on Call for Participation for EuroPython 2015 has started

2014-01-31 Thread Dinu Gherman
Hi Marc-André,

this call comes as a little surprise to me. To my knowledge after EuroPython 
2013 in Florence there was a call for proposals for 2014 and 2015, following a 
rule saying that it would be wise to reuse locally accumulated knowledge at 
least once. Berlin volunteered to organized these two and the EPS accepted. 
Right? I'd much appreciate if you could elaborate on how the fact of posting 
your call can be considered an improvement in the EuroPython conference series, 
especially since the event in 2014 hasn't even happened, yet? 

As an aside, I'm much in favor of improving things, including the EuroPython 
conference series. Everything can be improved, for ever. But after reading a 
bit on europython-society.org I must say I'm finding the amount of helpful 
information or tools on how to organize an EuroPython conference rather 
underwhelming. Instead there is much text about the EPS bylaws, board, members 
and a general assembly. Not enough though, to understand e.g. how the board 
approves membership applications.

I've been to at least five EuroPython conferences, but I can't remember having 
given my vote to anybody in the EPS board. True, I'm not an EPS member, the 
same holds for thousands of others. BTW, how many members does the EPS have? 
europython-society.org doesn't tell, or I couldn't find the figure. Does it 
have enough to speak for the entire community?

A final remark, just weeks ago I briefly thought about becoming an EPS member 
without quite knowing the implications. I've changed my mind again, now, 
because I've seen too many organizations with members obsessed by themselves 
and the letters of their own rules rather than by their real subject. I'm glad 
I've missed that trap, so I can actually contribute something to a successful 
conference. Which is not to say that the EPS doesn't make a useful job, it's 
just maybe not always too obvious, at least for me. 

Regards,

Dinu

PS: BTW, I'm making a wild guess here, but the EuroPython list signature just 
maybe should rather read 21th-27th July instead of 21th27th July.


M.-A. Lemburg:

 [Please help spread the word by forwarding to other relevant mailing lists,
 user groups, etc.; thanks :-)]
 
 The EuroPython Society (EPS) has started work on preparing the
 Call for Participation (CFP) for organizing the EuroPython 2015
 conference:
 
http://www.europython-society.org/
 
 For 2015, we are setting up a new structure for the conference
 organization, which is focused on local and distributed work groups
 that are closely integrated with the EuroPython Society.
 
 We hope to greatly reduce the work load for the local teams, attract
 community members that want to get involved and to streamline the
 whole process of transitioning from one location to the next, making
 the conference organization a lot easier for everyone.
 
 If you are interested in potentially signing up as local team or
 participating in the work groups, please subscribe to one of
 our communication channels:
 
 * Tumblr
   http://www.tumblr.com/follow/europythonsociety
 
 * RSS
   http://www.europython-society.org/rss
 
 * Twitter
   https://twitter.com/europythons
 
 * EuroPython Mailing List
   https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
 
 We are aiming for end of February as announcement date for the CFP 2015.
 
 Enjoy,
 -- 
 Marc-Andre Lemburg
 Director
 EuroPython Society
 http://www.europython-society.org/
 ___
 EuroPython 2014  Berlin, 21th27th July
 EuroPython mailing list
 europyt...@python.org
 https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

___
Europython-improve mailing list
Europython-improve@python.org
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve


Re: [Europython-improve] Work on Call for Participation for EuroPython 2015 has started

2014-01-31 Thread Dinu Gherman
I wrote:

 PS: BTW, I'm making a wild guess here, but the EuroPython list signature just 
 maybe should rather read 21th-27th July instead of 21th27th July.

And to please the really nitpicking: 21st-27th July would be even better.

Regards,

Dinu

___
Europython-improve mailing list
Europython-improve@python.org
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve


Re: [Europython-improve] [EuroPython] Work on Call for Participation for EuroPython 2015 has started

2014-01-31 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Hi Dinu,

as we mentioned in the email: we've *started work* on the call for
participation. We'll have more information available when we announce
the call :-)

A lot of work still needs to be done, since we're aiming for a new
model of organizing EuroPython conferences. Please have some
patience.

Cheers,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
Director
EuroPython Society
http://www.europython-society.org/
___
Europython-improve mailing list
Europython-improve@python.org
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve


Re: [Europython-improve] [EuroPython] Work on Call for Participation for EuroPython 2015 has started

2014-01-31 Thread Alex Kavanagh
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Jasper Paterson 
jasper.pater...@welovesalt.com wrote:

 Please remove me from this mailing list.


You *can* do this yourself:
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

Have a look towards the bottom of the page about unsubscribing.  I don't
run the list or otherwise have any control or otherwise, but I just thought
it might be useful for you to know.

Best, Alex.


 I would argue that it should read '21st-27th July' not '21th-27th July'

 Jasper Paterson
 Python Specialist Consultant
 9 Wootton Street, London, SE1 8TG  // 020 7928 2525  //  07551 157 389 //
 www.welovesalt.com

 Salt helps clients find exceptional talent to enable their digital
 transformation. If a client engages any candidate,
 standard Salt terms will apply, a copy of which can be found here:
 http://www.welovesalt.com/terms-and-conditions.
 Registered Office: Panel House, Park Street, Guildford, GU1 4HN.
 Registered In England  Wales No. 06912620

 Think green. Consider the environment before printing this email or its
 attachment(s)

 -Original Message-
 From: EuroPython [mailto:europython-bounces+jasper.paterson=
 welovesalt@python.org] On Behalf Of Dinu Gherman
 Sent: 31 January 2014 10:10
 To: M.-A. Lemburg
 Cc: EuroPython Mailing List; europython-improve
 Subject: Re: [EuroPython] Work on Call for Participation for EuroPython
 2015 has started

 Hi Marc-André,

 this call comes as a little surprise to me. To my knowledge after
 EuroPython 2013 in Florence there was a call for proposals for 2014 and
 2015, following a rule saying that it would be wise to reuse locally
 accumulated knowledge at least once. Berlin volunteered to organized these
 two and the EPS accepted. Right? I'd much appreciate if you could elaborate
 on how the fact of posting your call can be considered an improvement in
 the EuroPython conference series, especially since the event in 2014 hasn't
 even happened, yet?

 As an aside, I'm much in favor of improving things, including the
 EuroPython conference series. Everything can be improved, for ever. But
 after reading a bit on europython-society.org I must say I'm finding the
 amount of helpful information or tools on how to organize an EuroPython
 conference rather underwhelming. Instead there is much text about the EPS
 bylaws, board, members and a general assembly. Not enough though, to
 understand e.g. how the board approves membership applications.

 I've been to at least five EuroPython conferences, but I can't remember
 having given my vote to anybody in the EPS board. True, I'm not an EPS
 member, the same holds for thousands of others. BTW, how many members does
 the EPS have? europython-society.org doesn't tell, or I couldn't find the
 figure. Does it have enough to speak for the entire community?

 A final remark, just weeks ago I briefly thought about becoming an EPS
 member without quite knowing the implications. I've changed my mind again,
 now, because I've seen too many organizations with members obsessed by
 themselves and the letters of their own rules rather than by their real
 subject. I'm glad I've missed that trap, so I can actually contribute
 something to a successful conference. Which is not to say that the EPS
 doesn't make a useful job, it's just maybe not always too obvious, at least
 for me.

 Regards,

 Dinu

 PS: BTW, I'm making a wild guess here, but the EuroPython list signature
 just maybe should rather read 21th-27th July instead of 21th27th July.


 M.-A. Lemburg:

  [Please help spread the word by forwarding to other relevant mailing
  lists, user groups, etc.; thanks :-)]
 
  The EuroPython Society (EPS) has started work on preparing the Call
  for Participation (CFP) for organizing the EuroPython 2015
  conference:
 
 http://www.europython-society.org/
 
  For 2015, we are setting up a new structure for the conference
  organization, which is focused on local and distributed work groups
  that are closely integrated with the EuroPython Society.
 
  We hope to greatly reduce the work load for the local teams, attract
  community members that want to get involved and to streamline the
  whole process of transitioning from one location to the next, making
  the conference organization a lot easier for everyone.
 
  If you are interested in potentially signing up as local team or
  participating in the work groups, please subscribe to one of our
  communication channels:
 
  * Tumblr
http://www.tumblr.com/follow/europythonsociety
 
  * RSS
http://www.europython-society.org/rss
 
  * Twitter
https://twitter.com/europythons
 
  * EuroPython Mailing List
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
 
  We are aiming for end of February as announcement date for the CFP 2015.
 
  Enjoy,
  --
  Marc-Andre Lemburg
  Director
  EuroPython Society
  http://www.europython-society.org/
  ___
  EuroPython 2014  Berlin, 21th27th July EuroPython mailing list
  

Re: [Europython-improve] [EuroPython] Work on Call for Participation for EuroPython 2015 has started

2014-01-31 Thread Jasper Paterson
Please remove me from this mailing list. 

I would argue that it should read '21st-27th July' not '21th-27th July'

Jasper Paterson
Python Specialist Consultant
9 Wootton Street, London, SE1 8TG  // 020 7928 2525  //  07551 157 389 // 
www.welovesalt.com

Salt helps clients find exceptional talent to enable their digital 
transformation. If a client engages any candidate, 
standard Salt terms will apply, a copy of which can be found here: 
http://www.welovesalt.com/terms-and-conditions. 
Registered Office: Panel House, Park Street, Guildford, GU1 4HN. Registered In 
England  Wales No. 06912620

Think green. Consider the environment before printing this email or its 
attachment(s)

-Original Message-
From: EuroPython 
[mailto:europython-bounces+jasper.paterson=welovesalt@python.org] On Behalf 
Of Dinu Gherman
Sent: 31 January 2014 10:10
To: M.-A. Lemburg
Cc: EuroPython Mailing List; europython-improve
Subject: Re: [EuroPython] Work on Call for Participation for EuroPython 2015 
has started

Hi Marc-André,

this call comes as a little surprise to me. To my knowledge after EuroPython 
2013 in Florence there was a call for proposals for 2014 and 2015, following a 
rule saying that it would be wise to reuse locally accumulated knowledge at 
least once. Berlin volunteered to organized these two and the EPS accepted. 
Right? I'd much appreciate if you could elaborate on how the fact of posting 
your call can be considered an improvement in the EuroPython conference series, 
especially since the event in 2014 hasn't even happened, yet? 

As an aside, I'm much in favor of improving things, including the EuroPython 
conference series. Everything can be improved, for ever. But after reading a 
bit on europython-society.org I must say I'm finding the amount of helpful 
information or tools on how to organize an EuroPython conference rather 
underwhelming. Instead there is much text about the EPS bylaws, board, members 
and a general assembly. Not enough though, to understand e.g. how the board 
approves membership applications.

I've been to at least five EuroPython conferences, but I can't remember having 
given my vote to anybody in the EPS board. True, I'm not an EPS member, the 
same holds for thousands of others. BTW, how many members does the EPS have? 
europython-society.org doesn't tell, or I couldn't find the figure. Does it 
have enough to speak for the entire community?

A final remark, just weeks ago I briefly thought about becoming an EPS member 
without quite knowing the implications. I've changed my mind again, now, 
because I've seen too many organizations with members obsessed by themselves 
and the letters of their own rules rather than by their real subject. I'm glad 
I've missed that trap, so I can actually contribute something to a successful 
conference. Which is not to say that the EPS doesn't make a useful job, it's 
just maybe not always too obvious, at least for me. 

Regards,

Dinu

PS: BTW, I'm making a wild guess here, but the EuroPython list signature just 
maybe should rather read 21th-27th July instead of 21th27th July.


M.-A. Lemburg:

 [Please help spread the word by forwarding to other relevant mailing 
 lists, user groups, etc.; thanks :-)]
 
 The EuroPython Society (EPS) has started work on preparing the Call 
 for Participation (CFP) for organizing the EuroPython 2015
 conference:
 
http://www.europython-society.org/
 
 For 2015, we are setting up a new structure for the conference 
 organization, which is focused on local and distributed work groups 
 that are closely integrated with the EuroPython Society.
 
 We hope to greatly reduce the work load for the local teams, attract 
 community members that want to get involved and to streamline the 
 whole process of transitioning from one location to the next, making 
 the conference organization a lot easier for everyone.
 
 If you are interested in potentially signing up as local team or 
 participating in the work groups, please subscribe to one of our 
 communication channels:
 
 * Tumblr
   http://www.tumblr.com/follow/europythonsociety
 
 * RSS
   http://www.europython-society.org/rss
 
 * Twitter
   https://twitter.com/europythons
 
 * EuroPython Mailing List
   https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
 
 We are aiming for end of February as announcement date for the CFP 2015.
 
 Enjoy,
 --
 Marc-Andre Lemburg
 Director
 EuroPython Society
 http://www.europython-society.org/
 ___
 EuroPython 2014  Berlin, 21th27th July EuroPython mailing list 
 europyt...@python.org 
 https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

___
EuroPython 2014  Berlin, 21th27th July
EuroPython mailing list
europyt...@python.org
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
___
Europython-improve mailing list
Europython-improve@python.org