EV digest 7000

2007-07-07 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List

EV Digest 7000

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) RE: Conversion Classes in The Bay?
by Cor van de Water [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  2) Re: Stoern Energy
by Peter VanDerWal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  3) Re: the eVette
by Peter VanDerWal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  4) Re: Dessicant
by Peter VanDerWal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  5) Re: Setting a Battery on Concrete Myth Answered
by Peter VanDerWal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  6) Re: Thanks EVDL
by Andrew Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  7) Re: Thanks EVDL
by Andrew Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  8) RE: Another EV smile
by Alan Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  9) Re: EV world map
by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jukka_J=E4rvinen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 10) RE: Danaher Motion (Used to be Kollmorgen) Motors
by Mick Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 11) Hypothetical use of A123 cells
by Jeff Shanab [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 12) The hypothetical A123 pack again (clarification)
by Steve Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 13) Re: Thanks EVDL
by David Roden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 14) Re: temp sensor location
by Philippe Borges [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 15) article: US$15,000 Carbon Fibre Enertia electric motorcycle to hit
 stores in early 2008
by Paul Wujek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 16) Re: Honda Civic Crankshaft?
by Bob Bath [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 17) Re: Another EV smile
by Bob Bath [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 18) Voltage sag in CivicWithACord solved
by Bob Bath [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 19) Re: The hypothetical A123 pack again (clarification)
by Peter VanDerWal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 20) Re: Thanks EVDL
by Andrew Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 21) Plexiglas enclosures.
by JOHN P SWEENEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi JM,

In the past years there was a free 1-day EV conversion 
class by Mike Brown and Shari Prange from Electroauto on the day
after the Palo Alto EV show and rally, usually in September/October
so you may want to check out the website of the Silicon Valley
chapter of the EAA:
http://www.eaaev.org/
http://eaasv.org/
I see that the rally is now planned for end August.
It is usually held in the parking lot of the Palo Alto Highschool,
along El Camino Real, corner Embarcadero. This is across from
Stanford Stadium and Town and Country Village shopping mall.

The EV class has been given in a HP building in Cupertino, though
I do not know the plans for this year.
On the EAA site you will find the email address of the chairman
of the SV EAA chapter, Jerry Pohorsky. He will be able to tell
you more about the program and whether Electroauto has time to
give another class this year.

Regards,

Cor van de Water
Systems Architect
Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of jmmistrot
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 4:53 PM
To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu
Subject: Conversion Classes in The Bay?

Folks,

Thought it might be wise to take a class before starting my own project...
Anyone know of some good resources in the by area?

Thanks,

jm
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ROTFLMAO

I was going to post that they'd probably experience a wheel bearing
failure after only 17 miles.   The old folks on the list would have got
the joke.
I decided not to waste the bandwidth, now I wish I had.

Obviously these guys are following the Tilly Scam playbook page for page.

 They speculated that the hot lighting destroyed one of the bearings.
 http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=0110CMWK

 Apparently it has some quantum/Heinseberg problem.  The presence of an
 observer changes the process and it stops working.

 Anyhow, I'm only responding to give you some things to say to the guys
 who tell you you need to look into making a Steon powered car.
 The topic's dead.

 Danny

 Dan Frederiksen wrote:

 it's Steorn. and they crashed hard at the demo. no show. saga continues
 who knows. what a world

 Rob Hogenmiller wrote:

 Anyone seen the news on the Stoern project? (thoughts on it)

 Free Energy.







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First of all, there is nothing inherently unsafe about three wheelers
per se.  There are unsafe three wheeled designs, just like there are
unsafe four wheeled designs.  But that is because of poor design choices,
not because three wheelers are inherently unsafe

A properly designed three wheeler, either Delta or Tadpole, will slide
before it tips.   

EV digest 7001

2007-07-07 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List

EV Digest 7001

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Plexiglas enclosures.
by Lawrence Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  2) melted battery post
by Ted Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  3) Trojan T105 measurements.
by JS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  4) Re: melted battery post
by Bob Bath [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  5) RE: Voltage sag in CivicWithACord solved
by Phil Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  6) Re: WZ cool advertising was: Zombie Rips into the 11s 
by Jim Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  7) July Meeting Place
by [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  8) Re: WZ cool advertising was: Zombie Rips into the 11s 
by Jim Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  9) RE: Voltage sag in CivicWithACord solved
by Bob Bath [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 10) Re: article: US$15,000 Carbon Fibre Enertia electric motorcycle to hit 
stores in early 2008
by lyle sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 11) Got Amps
by Richard Acuti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 12) RE: Got Amps
by Phil Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 13) Re: Required Fire sticker for WA State
by Joe Smalley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 14) Electricity Book
by Joseph T.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 15) Re: Electricity Book
by Bob Bath [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 16) Re: Electricity Book
by Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 17) Re: Electricity Book
by Dan Frederiksen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 18) Convert 1995 Civic to Parallel Hybrid
by Larry Licata [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 19) Re: Got Amps
by Andrew Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 20) Converted super cars
by Dan Frederiksen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 21) Re: Electricity Book
by patrick DonEgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 22) Re: Converted super cars
by Joseph T.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 23) Re: Honda Civic Crankshaft?
by Joseph T.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 24) Re: Electricity Book
by Rob Hogenmiller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 25) Re: melted battery post
by Joseph T.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 26) Re: Honda Civic Crankshaft?
by Christopher Robison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 27) Re: Electricity Book
by Mike Sandman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 28) Re: melted battery post
by Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 29) Re: melted battery post
by Christopher Robison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 30) Re: Electricity Book
by David Roden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 31) RE: Another EV smile
by Jeff Mccabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Could have been a loose connection under the plexiglass.  That is something
to think about.  However PFC's tend not to get hot wires.  Lawrence
Rhodes
- Original Message - 
From: JOHN P SWEENEY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: EV LIST EV@listproc.sjsu.edu; EVBMS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 7:32 AM
Subject: Plexiglas enclosures.


Guys  girls,
I have made a rather startling discovery about using Plexiglas as an
enclosure for power electronics. Plexiglas burns really well!!
I had the brilliant (well sort of) idea to make the enclosure for my rather
unique PFC capacitive coupled charger so people could see the inner workings
of the beast and at the same time provide electrical isolation, I.E. keeping
curious fingers away from 300 VDC. ( hey it was a good idea at the time)
   I have been using the charger on a daily basis for the past couple years
without incident. A couple days ago something failed in the charger and
ignited the Plexiglas. OOH HAH by the time I noticed the failure the charger
was a flaming blob of plastic. I doubt I'll ever know what failed other than
it was not the rectifiers, everything else is covered in melted plastic and
dry chemical fire extinguisher powder. The only things that were hurt were
the charger and my pride however if it had been an unattended late night
recharge my shop would have burnt to the ground.
   So a word to the wise don't use Plexiglas for your enclosure when parts
can fail and ignite it, and always have a fire extinguisher handy.

Pat
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Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 22:08:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Mccabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Another EV smile
To: ev@listproc.sjsu.edu
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 You might be Alan,
 I definitely worked through allot of electrical
issues. The best thing I did was remove the entire
stock fuse and relay panel and used a 12 circuit hot
rod unit. The stock unit had 34 fuzzed circuits and 22
relays ! 
Thanks, Jeff McCabe



--- Alan Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jeff,
 
 After looking at your EV Album listing, your parts
 used, and modified,
 and the great result you have come up with, I would
 not say you are an
 electronic novice.  Maybe at the start, but after 16
 months, I think you
 could teach the class now.  Great car, I hope you
 enjoy it a lot!
 
 Alan Brinkman
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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