[EVDL] EVLN: Public shaming used as a tool to stop icing of EV spots
http://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/taking-aim-at-bad-parking-with-social-media-1.1899598
Taking aim at bad parking with social media
July 4, 2014
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CTV Ottawa: Local group shames poor parking
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One vehicle takes up two spaces at St. Laurent Shopping Centre, July 4th,
2014
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You might want to think twice the next time you hastily park your vehicle.
If you are parked illegally or taking up two spaces instead of one your
handiwork just might end up on Facebook.
Two Ottawa men have launched Bad Parking Ottawa – a place where people can
post pictures of bad parking. “It’s like, hey, listen. We saw you. You’ve
been spotted. You’re on social media now,” says Ben Martel. “A lot of people
will see you and hopefully you won’t be doing it again.”
Martel set up Bad Parking Ottawa with his friend Glen Caswell. One of their
concerns was the relatively recent habit of people with gas-powered vehicles
parking in spaces reserved for electric cars.
But bad parking is nothing new. If the threat of parking tickets or even
being towed hasn’t curbed it, perhaps a little public shaming might. Similar
sites are used in other cities. And this latest Facebook page joins the
Twitter account Fail Park Ottawa @failpark_yow which began in 2010.
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[EVDL] EVLN: Nimbus E-Car pih summons the ghost of the hippy dippy VW bus
Onboard microgenerator for backup battery-pack charging
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Nimbus E-Car electric vehicle concept summons the ghost of the VW Microbus
July 7, 2014
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Before today’s sustainability boosters, there were hippies, and they loved
the Volkswagen Microbus.
With its bulbous, van-like body, the Nimbus E-Car concept looks like the
modern successor to the old VW.
According to Gas 2, the E-Car was created by Brazilian artist Eduardo
Galvani, and was designed to be constructed out of lightweight carbon fiber,
aluminum, and titanium.
Power comes from a 130-kilowatt (180 horsepower) electric motor, and the
E-Car features on-demand four-wheel drive. There’s also an onboard
microgenerator for backup battery-pack charging.
Unlike the spartan Volkswagen Microbus, the E-Car features plenty of modern
technology, including a tablet-controlled infotainment system and plenty of
outlets and USB ports for other devices.
Brazil was the VW’s last stand; it went out of production there last year.
Could the E-Car rise from its ashes and become the country’s new utility
vehicle of choice, or will it remain an intriguing concept?
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Nimbus E-Car electric vehicle concept summons the ghost of the VW Microbus
July 7, 2014
http://gas2.org/2014/06/21/nimbus-e-car-new-age-microbus/
Nimbus E-Car is a New Age Electric Microbus
Created by Brazilian artist and designer, Eduardo Galvani, the Nimbus E-Car
is the perfect vehicle for eco-conscious (and frugal) adventurers who miss
the old VW Microbus, but want something a little more, you know, electric.
The Nimbus E-Car concept is designed to be constructed out of lightweight
carbon fiber, aluminum, and titanium for greater efficiency. Further, the
concept sports panoramic windows all around for optimal photography on the
go, while offering on-demand 4 wheel drive, roof-top solar panels, and
regenerative braking to keep the batteries charged up, no matter where your
adventures take you.
Speaking of batteries, the E-Car’s power comes from a 130 kW (180 hp)
electric motor to keep things moving forward briskly – and there’s also an
on board micro-generator to make sure you get home from Machu Pichu in time
for the next World Cup match. If you don’t make it home in time, however,
that won’t be a problem, sine the Nimbus has plenty of conveniences for
today’s tech-savvy drivers, including an on board wifi hub, lots of USB
ports, and power outlets feeding the tablet mounted in the center console.
In addition to being an entertainment system, the Nimbus’ tablet controls
the car’s audio system, lighting, temp control and navigational information.
It also contains a digital inclinometer, altimeter and weather station.
My old Irish grandmother would say that this car has a face only a mother
could love, but I think it is. Just. Too. Cute. I want one!
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Re: [EVDL] A cheap used Volt pih for Michael
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On 7 Jul 2557 BE, at 20:08, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-Chevrolet-Volt-Raleigh-d2012_L25152
2012 Volt Base
Good Deal $841 BELOW
Instant Market Value of $16,629
Price: $15,788 $229/mo
Mileage: 86,250
Location: Sanford, NC
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I have seen 2 Volt [pih] in my life, one yesterday. I must say it is a
pretty
nice looking car. At $34K it costs about double what I am willing to put
into a car. Cars don't deserve that much IMO. But there you have it, I
am
a cheapskate. Waiting for used.
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Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?
Smart ED: ~377 (=25700/68) Leaf: ~427 (=32000/75) i3: ~511 (=43000/81) Tesla-S: ~337 (=7/208) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
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Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?
Excellent points. All renewable installations have to have this sort of accounting. Building for peak use is often unreasonable. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I don't know if your metric is the right one to use, but for the Tesla, I think that using the 85 kWh battery as a more robust solution is what I would use. For an extra $500 per hour for a 30 minute highway charge? I don’t think so. The smart EV driver who understands the real value-promise of EV's where they do best (overnight charging and daily use) actually looks for the smallest battery that meets their routine needs, not the biggest. For example, is it worth an extra $26,000 to be able to go an extra 57 miles between charges on the highway? Example, A weekly trip from Washington DC to say New York city (226 mi) in a 85kw car (265 mi range) will not need to charge along the way in good weather, but will need to charge immediately on arrival. The driver of a 60 kW battery (208 mi) would have to charge once along the way for say 20 minutes but then not have to stress over finding a charger immediately on arrival. His cost? An extra 30 minutes. At 52 trips a year, (52 hours of charging along the way) works out to be a cost of $500 per hour. Of course this goes down the longer one owns the car, but paying an extra $1000 per charge to save 30 minutes once a week is not economical to many people. Sure, to those that can afford it, the price is insignificant , but they are not the ones who will be the primary purchasers of mass EV's. Bob, WB4APR ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- Put this question to yourself: should I use everyone else to attain happiness, or should I help others gain happiness? *Dalai Lama * Tell me what it is you plan to do With your one wild and precious life? Mary Oliver, The summer day. To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 550-2430 Land (919) 576-0824 https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones Google Phone (919) 631-1451 Cell (919) 513-0418 Desk michael.e.r...@gmail.com michael.e.r...@gmail.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140708/5de55011/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
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On 8 Jul 2014 at 11:05, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: For an extra $500 per hour for a 30 minute highway charge? I don't think so. I've read this over 4 times, and I'm still having trouble understanding your point with it. I guess I'm still missing something. is it worth an extra $26,000 to be able to go an extra 57 miles between charges on the highway? Now this makes perfect sense. For me, this is where you nail it. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to evpost and etpost addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
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I can agree with this statement: The smart EV driver who understands the real value-promise of EV's where they do best (overnight charging and daily use) actually looks for the smallest battery that meets their routine needs, not the biggest but the rest of your argument is pretty fanciful. The smart EV driver would buy a leaf for $32,000 or a Smart ED for $25,700 and spend $40 a week to rent an ICE car for their Washington to NY trip instead of spending $40,000 extra for the Model S and having to cool their heels at some truck stop (in both directions) waiting for their car to charge. Or even better, take the train and get a lot of work or rest done on the trip. Washington to NYC is one of the worst drives in this country. --Rick On 07/08/2014 11:05 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: I don't know if your metric is the right one to use, but for the Tesla, I think that using the 85 kWh battery as a more robust solution is what I would use. For an extra $500 per hour for a 30 minute highway charge? I don’t think so. The smart EV driver who understands the real value-promise of EV's where they do best (overnight charging and daily use) actually looks for the smallest battery that meets their routine needs, not the biggest. For example, is it worth an extra $26,000 to be able to go an extra 57 miles between charges on the highway? Example, A weekly trip from Washington DC to say New York city (226 mi) in a 85kw car (265 mi range) will not need to charge along the way in good weather, but will need to charge immediately on arrival. The driver of a 60 kW battery (208 mi) would have to charge once along the way for say 20 minutes but then not have to stress over finding a charger immediately on arrival. His cost? An extra 30 minutes. At 52 trips a year, (52 hours of charging along the way) works out to be a cost of $500 per hour. Of course this goes down the longer one owns the car, but paying an extra $1000 per charge to save 30 minutes once a week is not economical to many people. Sure, to those that can afford it, the price is insignificant , but they are not the ones who will be the primary purchasers of mass EV's. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?
On Tue, 8 Jul 2014, Rick Beebe via EV wrote: The smart EV driver would buy a leaf for $32,000 or a Smart ED for $25,700 and spend $40 a week to rent an ICE car for their Washington to NY trip instead of spending $40,000 extra for the Model S and having to cool their heels at some truck stop (in both directions) waiting for their car to charge. Or even better, take the train and get a lot of work or rest done on the trip. Washington to NYC is one of the worst drives in this country. This is exactly what I do. When I got my Leaf three years ago, I got rid of my old ICE vehicle. I don't have to pay to register, insure, or maintain a second vehicle. Budget rent-a-car has a deal that allows me to register and pay for a car over the internet and pick it up at the San Jose, CA airport. The weekend rate is $20 per day. I also pay $11 per day to park at an off-site parking lot with a shuttle. There is another advantage to this. If something happens to the car while I'm far from home, I can call Budget. They will give me another car to complete my trip and I presume will take care of getting the original one fixed. If I did this in my own car, I would have to arrange to get it fixed, and arrange for another car while it was being fixed. I would also need to alter my trip plans to return the other car and get my car back. This convenience is definitely worth $31 per day to me. Even if my Leaf had 200 mile range, I wouldn't use it for such trips. Ed ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do they compare?
what about the chevy spark?
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On Mon, 7/7/14, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Subject: Re: [EVDL] What serious EVs are available, at what price how do
they compare?
To: ev@lists.evdl.org
Date: Monday, July 7, 2014, 10:53 AM
With a little help from
my friends, I am corrected: according to
http://www.nissanusa.com/electric-cars/leaf/charging-range/range/
The Nissan LEAF® can get you 84 miles on
a single charge. [*] Speed,
topography,
load, and accessory use can significantly affect the
estimated
range.
So, recalculating the list using 84 miles @
$3200 for the Leaf EV:
Leaf: ~381 (=32000/84)
i3: ~511 (=43000/81)
Tesla-S: ~337 (=7/208)
The Tesla Model-S is still the overall better
deal using my funny-numbers
above, and the
Leaf is still the better lower-purchase-cost deal.
I hope everyone realizes that
range figures are a moving target (everyone's
range will vary). The mynissanleaf.com
forum had a chart that showed some
speed to
range ratios that some might find interesting:
http://www.smidgeindustriesltd.com/leafrangewithtesla.gif
But I stuck with using the EPA
numbers for each EV, not because I believe
the EPA range is fact, but to compare apples
with apples.
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On Mon, Jul 7, 2014, at 09:21 AM, Jamie K via
EV wrote:
Note that the LEAF is
currently rated at 84 mile EPA range, not 75.
Taking that into account, and if you look
at the actual price people are
likely
to pay post tax incentives, the LEAF currently has the
lowest
cost per range mile of those
three EVs.
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