[EVDL] EVLN: Undecided Tesla breaks ground @Reno 4states not ruled out (video)

2014-08-07 Thread brucedp5 via EV


http://www.koat.com/news/tesla-breaks-ground-in-reno-but-undecided-on-gigafactory/27251036
Tesla breaks ground in Reno but undecided on gigafactory
By Royale Da  Jul 31, 2014

[video  flash]
Four other states not ruled out

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. —Tesla officials announced Thursday that they broke ground
in Reno, Nevada on a potential site for its $5 billion gigafactory.

In a letter to shareholders Thursday Tesla officials wrote: In June, we
broke ground just outside Reno, Nevada, on a site that could potentially be
the location for the gigafactory. 

Tesla officials said they planned to break ground on multiple sites before
deciding on the final location of their gigafactory.

We continue to evaluate other locations in Arizona, California, New Mexico
and Texas, the letter stated.

The final site for the first gigafactory will be determined in the next few
months, once we have full visibility and agreement on the relevant
incentives and processes for enabling the gigafactory to be fully
operational to meet the timing for Model 3, Tesla wrote in a news release.

The electric car maker plans to use the gigafactory to mass produce its
batteries. The gigafactory is expected bring 6,500 jobs to whichever state
it ends up in. Tesla also announced it will partner with Panasonic in the
project.
[© 2014 Hearst]




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Re: [EVDL] To Noalox, or Not to Noalox

2014-08-07 Thread Rick Beebe via EV

REAP Systems in England did test that in a lab last year. You can see a
video presentation they did on the EVTV web site. Go to video archives,
August 16, 2013. A direct link is
http://media3.ev-tv.me/news081613-iPhone.m4v. The presentation starts at
23 minutes and the results are around 36 minutes.

Instead of sanding they used a steel bristle brush to remove the tarnish
from the terminals and busbars. They discharged the cells at 300 amps in
60 second bursts 30 times. The BMS was monitoring individual cell
temperatures and if they exceeded 45C it would reduce the current. They
strapped 7 100Ah cells together.

With uncleaned terminals they got one cycle before having to reduce the
current because of temperature. The warmest cell got up to 55C after 10
cycles.

With cleaned terminals there was no reduction in current until after 11
cycles when the warmest cell got up to 45C. The warmest cell eventually
got just above 50C but after those 11 cycles they'd already drawn half
the capacity of the cells.

Interestingly there was virtually no difference when they added the
grease. So if you think the grease will help prevent corrosion that's
fine. But it doesn't seem to do anything to help the connection.

--Rick

On 7/31/2014 12:43 PM, Michael Ross via EV wrote:

With aluminum, you just cannot expose bare un-oxidixed metal, it is not
possible to do this, so I am not happy with the sanding idea.  The sanding
has to be helpful on some other basis if it is indeed helpful.

Be interesting if someone has compared greased un-sanded to greased and
sanded.





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Re: [EVDL] To Noalox, or Not to Noalox

2014-08-07 Thread Michael Ross via EV
The theory that is being proposed is that the noalox or grease will provide
better results over some time in service - particularly where there are
dissimilar metals in contact. That makes sense to me.  I like the idea of
brushing much better than sanding.  But, fine grit polishing sounds OK to
me.

I guess you have to buy the idea that the zinc particles in noalox do bind
up free oxygen, providing anodic protection within the joint.  If the joint
was dry, and the grease does not deteriorate, then I I think it might be
speculative marketeering, and product differentiation that touts the zinc.

It would be interesting to see this tested somehow.


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Rick Beebe via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:

 REAP Systems in England did test that in a lab last year. You can see a
 video presentation they did on the EVTV web site. Go to video archives,
 August 16, 2013. A direct link is
 http://media3.ev-tv.me/news081613-iPhone.m4v. The presentation starts at
 23 minutes and the results are around 36 minutes.

 Instead of sanding they used a steel bristle brush to remove the tarnish
 from the terminals and busbars. They discharged the cells at 300 amps in
 60 second bursts 30 times. The BMS was monitoring individual cell
 temperatures and if they exceeded 45C it would reduce the current. They
 strapped 7 100Ah cells together.

 With uncleaned terminals they got one cycle before having to reduce the
 current because of temperature. The warmest cell got up to 55C after 10
 cycles.

 With cleaned terminals there was no reduction in current until after 11
 cycles when the warmest cell got up to 45C. The warmest cell eventually
 got just above 50C but after those 11 cycles they'd already drawn half
 the capacity of the cells.

 Interestingly there was virtually no difference when they added the
 grease. So if you think the grease will help prevent corrosion that's
 fine. But it doesn't seem to do anything to help the connection.

 --Rick

 On 7/31/2014 12:43 PM, Michael Ross via EV wrote:

 With aluminum, you just cannot expose bare un-oxidixed metal, it is not
 possible to do this, so I am not happy with the sanding idea.  The sanding
 has to be helpful on some other basis if it is indeed helpful.

 Be interesting if someone has compared greased un-sanded to greased and
 sanded.





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