Re: [EVDL] ? Is this really a Smart Fortwo ED EV that burnt to acrisp ?
fire while
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> decide. Was this EV really a Smart? Or was it something else.
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Re: [EVDL] ? Is this really a Smart Fortwo ED EV that burnt to acrisp ?
Not true, the EVSE is supposed to limit the charging current to what is
safe to draw from the electrical connection.
For example, a 240V 30A circuit must be protected by the EVSE telling
the car that it can only draw 24A (80% of 30A) continuous.
The EVSE needs to select the proper duty cycle of the pilot signal to
convey this to the EV.
If a 30A circuit is attached to an EVSE that expects a 40A circuit, it
will tell the EV to draw up to 32A, overloading the circuit.
Besides a mis-match like that (which I have once encountered myself)
there are other concerns, such as a worn, damaged or corroded
contact in the charging plug, either of the EVSE or the car.
And then there is the ever-present danger of a failing wire in the cord.
This is not exclusively a problem from EV and EVSE, as my colleague had
a small fire in his house this last winter
due to the wire at the back of the wall plug starting to break
internally and the remaining strands overheated to the point
of setting the cord on fire.
I have had similar experience with an outlet in a previous home, where
the wire coming out of the wall probably was nicked
before being attached, so after successfully washing loads of laundry
for years (water was heated electrically so the washer
drew about 12 Amps continuously for an hour or so during a hot wash
cycle) suddenly one day the bathroom filled with smoke
and the wire inside the outlet burned clean through.
There had been no movement of that wire, so no gradual breakage - this
was purely a resistive heating induced failure.
Besides the EVSE itself, the circuit it is fed with and the charging
plug contacts,
also the circuitry inside the car (AC powered HV battery charger) can
fail, for example an improperly tightened wire
or a loss of water cooling overheating the charger, which subsequently
fails and burns...
So many different ways to let the magic smoke out...
Cor.
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] ? Is this really a Smart Fortwo ED EV that burnt to
acrisp ?
What does the EVSE have to do with this? The car makes the decisions.
The EVSE is just a super safe power cord.
David Kerzel
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Subject: [EVDL] ? Is this really a Smart Fortwo ED EV that burnt to a
crisp ?
% First look at:
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lty-
wall-mounted-EVSE-completely-burns-Smart42ED-EV-uk-td4687296.html
EV-fire: Faulty wall-mounted EVSE completely burns (?Smart42ED?) EV.uk
Electric car gutted by flames after it set fire while charging An
electric car was left completely burnt out after it set on fire while
charging. The vehicle was destroyed and a nearby building was damaged by
smoke in the ...
then at the end I placed some image links of Smart EV frames without
their body.
The EV's body was not metal and completely bunt away. Only the metal
frame was left, including the metal frame for the doors. Compare, and
decide. Was this EV really a Smart? Or was it something else.
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Re: [EVDL] ? Is this really a Smart Fortwo ED EV that burnt to a crisp ?
What does the EVSE have to do with this? The car makes the decisions. The
EVSE is just a super safe power cord.
David Kerzel
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% First look at:
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wall-mounted-EVSE-completely-burns-Smart42ED-EV-uk-td4687296.html
EV-fire: Faulty wall-mounted EVSE completely burns (?Smart42ED?) EV.uk
Electric car gutted by flames after it set fire while charging An electric
car was left completely burnt out after it set on fire while charging. The
vehicle was destroyed and a nearby building was damaged by smoke in the ...
then at the end I placed some image links of Smart EV frames without their
body.
The EV's body was not metal and completely bunt away. Only the metal frame
was left, including the metal frame for the doors. Compare, and decide. Was
this EV really a Smart? Or was it something else.
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[EVDL] ? Is this really a Smart Fortwo ED EV that burnt to a crisp ?
% First look at:
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EV-fire: Faulty wall-mounted EVSE completely burns (?Smart42ED?) EV.uk
Electric car gutted by flames after it set fire while charging
An electric car was left completely burnt out after it set on fire while
charging. The vehicle was destroyed and a nearby building was damaged by
smoke in the ...
then at the end I placed some image links of Smart EV frames without their
body.
The EV's body was not metal and completely bunt away. Only the metal frame
was left, including the metal frame for the doors. Compare, and decide. Was
this EV really a Smart? Or was it something else.
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EVLN: (EV-ignorant writer)> 2017 Tesla-X P100D Review
Somehow, Tesla made a name for itself in an era when hybrid cars were having
a hard time resonating … Model X P sits in the middle of Tesla’s soon-to-be
three car lineup between the Model S sedan and the forthcoming Model 3 ...
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Ports Go Electric in Drive to Decarbonize and Cut Pollution ... Dockyard
vehicles are also going electric ...
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EVLN: Naperville-IL e-Tuk fleet doubles in size in less than a year
Naperville Tuk Tuks have been transporting people around the city's downtown
since October 7, and the fleet has grown from two electric vehicles to four
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1st Tesla-3 given to Musk as bday gift from 1st on waiting list> (EV
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Tesla makes its first Model 3 (update: pictures!)
After months of waiting and no shortage of hype, Tesla's first Model 3 is
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California Plug-In Electric Vehicle Collaborative plans to bring a test
course and as many as a dozen models to the fairground ... visitors to the
California State Fair this month will also have the chance to try out a
plugin car ...
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ABB installed 50kW L3 ccs, CHAdeMO, & type2 22kW AC in Plovdiv.bg
ABB Bulgaria opens fast-charging station for electric vehicles in Plovdiv
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