[EVDL] EVtax: ?EVs damage MN roads more than ice? | Take a MN EV Road Trip
'electric vehicles are actually doing more damage to our roads than standard vehicles' 'If you want less of something, TAX IT ' https://www.minnpost.com/glean/2019/02/ilhan-omar-on-coast-guard-lieutenants-hit-list/ Ilhan Omar on Coast Guard lieutenant's 'hit list' 2019-02-21 ... Tim Pugmire at MPR says, “Minnesota lawmakers are considering higher annual fees on the owners of electric cars and new fees on hybrid vehicles. Sen. Jeff Howe, R-Rockville, is sponsoring a bill which was heard Wednesday by the Senate Transportation Committee that would raise annual fees for electric vehicles from $75 to $250 ... The aim of the measure is to offset lost gas tax revenue, which is used to fund highway projects. Howe said electric vehicle owners need to pay their fair share of the gas tax. ‘Hybrids and these electric vehicles are actually doing more damage to our roads than standard vehicles,’ Howe said.” ... https://blogs.mprnews.org/capitol-view/2019/02/mn-lawmaker-wants-electric-cars-drivers-to-pay-higher-fees/ MN lawmaker wants electric cars drivers to pay higher fees Feb 20, 2019 Minnesota lawmakers are considering higher annual fees on the owners of electric cars ... Sen. Jeff Howe, R-Rockville, is sponsoring a bill which was heard Wednesday by the Senate Transportation Committee that would raise annual fees for electric vehicles from $75 to $250 ... lobbyist representing the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers ... https://publicradio1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/capitol-view/files/2019/02/20090828_charge-me-630x473.jpg https://peakoil.com/consumption/get-ready-for-pushback-in-the-war-on-plastic/comment-page-1 ... comment: If you want less of something, TAX IT ... http://www.minnesotamonthly.com/Travel-Outdoors/The-North-Shore-Take-an-Electric-Vehicle-Road-Trip/ The North Shore: Take an Electric Vehicle Road Trip February 21, 2019 Todd P. Walker [images http://www.minnesotamonthly.com/mm-2019-03_TrueNorth_Drive_brett-patzke_X.jpg Highway 61, in Minnesota's Arrowhead, is ready for your EV. Photo by Brett Patzke http://www.minnesotamonthly.com/mm-2019-03_TrueNorth_Glensheen_X.jpg Glensheen Mansion in Duluth Courtesy Glensheen Mansion http://www.minnesotamonthly.com/mm-2019-03_TrueNorth_Gooseberry_gades-photography_X.jpg Gooseberry Falls Courtesy Gades Photography ] Charging stations for your EV—and the most tempting bites in northeastern Minnesota—make this trip a breeze Many of us are quite fond of road trips in Minnesota. Two of the most rewarding parts of the state for driving are the scenic northeast and the North Shore, which make up the Arrowhead Region. Beautiful year-round, the northbound drive along I-35 from the Twin Cities, followed by Highway 61 from Duluth, shows a transition from farmland to forest to Duluth to the Sawtooth Mountains on one side—and Lake Superior on the other. With my 86-year-old father as co-pilot, I recently took this journey in a way that is becoming common: in an electric vehicle. With charging stations dotting the route, I had ample opportunities to juice up my sporty Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, which was furnished by White Bear Mitsubishi and the Twin Cities Auto Show. (I drive a 2007 Jeep in the winter months and a scooter during the summer, so this was a serious transportation upgrade.) Our first stop was Doc’s Sports Bar and Grill, not far from miles of ATV trails in Sturgeon Lake. The impressive beer selection and never-frozen meats set this pit stop apart. After a stick-to-your-ribs lunch of a smoked brisket sandwich smothered with cheddar cheese, and a charge-up for the Outlander at the station in the parking lot, I was back on the road to grab a growler and an incredible homemade root beer at Moose Lake Brewing Company’s welcoming taproom right on the shore of Moosehead Lake. (The brewery also has a charging station.) Next stop, Duluth. After passing Spirit Mountain, we soon came to a bend in the road, mounds of iron ore, and the city resting on the shore of Lake Superior. We headed directly to Northern Waters Smokehaus in Canal Park. The line was out the door. My sandwich: Silence of the Lambwich. This masterpiece is a combination of lamb and vegetables topped with red curried yogurt all neatly stacked on delicious naan—spectacular. Fighting off a meat-induced coma, I grabbed a Colombian Cold Brew from the Duluth Coffee Company Cafe and headed to the Glensheen Mansion for the 90-minute guided tour. For a new way to experience the historic estate, the 21-plus flashlight tour runs until mid-March. Imagine: The place is pitch black, and only your guides have flashlights. Before leaving downtown Duluth, we headed up to the Skyline Parkway for a drive overlooking the city of Duluth and Lake Superior. Here is an insider’s tip for a great Instagram shot: Head to the top of Lake Avenue, east of Observation Hill, for a great view of the Historic Old Central High School clock tower, the Lift Bridge, and Canal Park. After a full day of sightseeing around
[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20190223
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Legendary-Minsk-goes-e-motorcycle-in-2020-tp4692902.html EVLN: Legendary Minsk goes e-motorcycle in 2020 Legendary motorcycle “Minsk” became the electric 17.02.2019 The model will hit the market, roughly in the following year. Belarus became a place where there will be the release of a new model of an old motorcycle. http://micetimes.asia/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/87b4151a1e491642288faa440f006f51.jpeg http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Supercap-ultracap-Goldcap-take-the-plunge-v-tp4692903.html EVLN: Supercap, ultracap, Goldcap> take the plunge (v) Could Ultracapacitors Replace Batteries In Future Electric Vehicles? February, 17th 2019 In terms of electric cars, this would mean they would be better than batteries when the ... ultracapacitors are not a substitute for batteries in electric vehicles ... https://youtu.be/oVD3fnpLXs8 + https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/radical-jaguar-saloon-plotted-ev-shake Radical Jaguar saloon plotted in EV shake-up Feb 10, 2019 Meanwhile, the all-new XJ due next year is expected to be fully electric, which ... Autocar understands, is the likely future take-up rate for premium EV models ... https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/images/car-reviews/first-drives/legacy/jag_final.jpg?itok=8GtsPYiA http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=29182 China's CATL to Build World's Largest EV Battery Plant in Germany February 18, 2019 China is increasing its presence in the global electric vehicle (EV) battery market and this is being led by CATL, which is the second-largest EV battery supplier ... Competition between Chinese and Korean companies in the global electric vehicle battery market is intensifying ... http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/photo/201902/29182_40509_3558.png ... https://www.handelsblatt.com/today/companies/catl-cars-germanys-big-chinese-made-battery-plant-to-dwarf-teslas-gigafactory/23955856.html?ticket=ST-2509839-37ryQ4Hq4Y7tkS7blPLw-ap1 Germany’s big (Chinese-made) battery plant to dwarf Tesla’s Gigafactory 02/06/2019 The e-car battery plant in the city of Erfurt, built by Chinese company CATL, will likely be much larger: It could be three times the size of Tesla’s ... Germany’s car industry will finally get what it couldn’t establish on its own ... https://www.handelsblatt.com/images/call-it-nanofactory-instead-/23956000/4-format2020.jpg (Sacramento-CA GIG-rental hev used4 JUMP e-scooter drive-over) https://www.abc10.com/article/news/watch-gig-car-used-to-run-over-jump-scooter/103-7c52be69-502c-4e5a-9ec8-d928272804c2 WATCH: GIG car used to run over JUMP scooter Feb 12, 2019 GIG cars are electric vehicles that can be rented, similar to the way people can ... "They smash/bend the scooter in half, then hop in (the) Gig car and proceed to ... https://twitter.com/madisonmeyer/status/1095478063872110592 http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVcrash-128mph-red-light-running-Tesla-S-smashes-SUV-ice-v-tp4692885.html EVcrash: 128mph red light running Tesla-S smashes SUV ice (v) WATCH Tesla Speeding at 128mph Smashes Into Infiniti SUV FEB 16 2019 A video from surveillance cameras installed on a road in Miami Beach, Florida captured a serious accident involving a Tesla ... https://youtu.be/cH52U0Vt5Pw For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/archive/ https://mail-archive.com/ev@lists.evdl.org/maillist.html {brucedp.neocities.org} -- Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: Supercap, ultracap, Goldcap> take the plunge (v)
https://interestingengineering.com/could-ultracapacitors-replace-batteries-in-future-electric-vehicles Could Ultracapacitors Replace Batteries In Future Electric Vehicles? February, 17th 2019 Christopher McFadden [images https://static.interestingengineering.com/images/FEBRUARY/sizes/ultracapacitors_versus_batteries_resize_md.jpg ultra-capacitors versus batteries Extracted from: skeletontech https://static.interestingengineering.com/images/sizes/Teslachargingstation_resize_md.jpg Could Ultracapacitors Replace Batteries In Future Electric Vehicles? Source: Depositphotos videos dated https://youtu.be/oVD3fnpLXs8 WHAT IS SUPERCAPACITOR ULTRACAPACITOR Aug 26, 2018 - Uploaded by SKILFUL LIFE 6:48 A supercapacitor is also called as supercap, ultracapacitor or Goldcap. It is a high-capacity capacitor with ... https://youtu.be/GeSvErqdmIM How Supercapacitors Could Make Batteries a Thing of the Past Aug 31, 2018 - Uploaded by Seeker 3:53 These Squishy Batteries Are Made Out of Water, Here's How They Work ... https://youtu.be/UEi3D88yczk Super / Ultra Capacitors | The Future of EV Car Batteries? May 18, 2018 - Uploaded by EV Opinion 9:52 Batteries were invented in 1800. Have we moved forward much since then? Lets look at how we could improve ... ] Ultracapacitors have been making the news of late but could they viably replace batteries in the EVs of the future? Ultracapacitors are awesome. But could they viably replace batteries in future electric vehicles? Whilst they have significant advantages over batteries, after all, they are much lighter, faster to charge, safer and non-toxic, there are some areas batteries wipe the floor with them. At least for now. With recent acquisitions of ultracapacitor manufacturers by the likes of Tesla, ultracapacitor could be on the verge of ousting batteries as the go-to power source for electric cars. What is an ultracapacitor? Ultracapacitors, also called supercapacitors or electrochemical capacitors, are a kind of energy storage system that has been gaining popularity in recent years. They can be thought of as akin to a cross between an ordinary capacitor and a battery, but different from both. Just like a battery, ultracapacitor cells have a positive and negative electrode separated by an electrolyte. But, unlike batteries, ultracapacitors store energy electrostatically (like a capacitor) rather than chemically like a battery. Ultracapacitors also have a dielectric separator dividing the electrolyte - just like a capacitor. This internal cell structure allows ultracapacitors to have a very high energy storage density, especially when compared to a normal capacitor. When compared to batteries, ultracapacitors do store less energy than a similarly sized battery. But, they are able to release it much more rapidly as the discharge is not dependent on a chemical reaction taking place. Another great benefit of them is that they can be charged many times over with little or degradation (in excess of 1 million charge/discharge cycles is not uncommon). This is because no physical or chemical changes occur when a charge is stored within them. The most commonly used electrode material for supercapacitors is carbon in various forms such as activated carbon, carbon fiber-cloth, carbide-derived carbon, carbon aerogel, graphite (graphene), and carbon nanotubes (CNTs). Supercapacitors are used in applications requiring many rapid charge/discharge cycles rather than long term compact energy storage. Also, they are used in car booster packs and power banks. Can ultracapacitors replace batteries? The answer to this question depends very much on the desired application in question. Both offer advantages and disadvantages over the other. As previously mentioned, batteries have a much higher energy density than ultracapacitors. This means that they are more suitable for higher energy density applications and can allow for a device to run for longer. Ultracapacitors have a much higher power density than batteries. This makes them ideal for high-drain applications like powering an accelerating car. Ultracapacitors have a much longer lifetime than batteries. A regular battery can handle around 2000-3000 charge and discharge cycles whilst ultracapacitors can usually sustain more than 1,000,000. ultra-capacitors versus batteries Ultracapacitors are much safer and considerably less toxic. They contain no harmful chemicals or heavy metals and are highly unlikely to explode as batteries can. Ultracapacitors have a much greater operating range when compared to batteries. They beat batteries hands down in this area and can operate within ranges of between -40 and +65 degrees Celsius. Ultracapacitors are able to be charged and discharged much more rapidly than batteries, usually within seconds. Batteries, on the other hand, charge a lot more slowly (depending on size and type of course). Ultracapacitors are also much more efficient at self-discharge than batteries.
[EVDL] EVLN: Legendary Minsk goes e-motorcycle in 2020
http://micetimes.asia/legendary-motorcycle-minsk-became-the-electric/ Legendary motorcycle “Minsk” became the electric 17.02.2019 paradox [image http://micetimes.asia/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/87b4151a1e491642288faa440f006f51.jpeg ] ??? «?» ? The model will hit the market, roughly in the following year. Belarus became a place where there will be the release of a new model of an old motorcycle. The famous “Minsk” has acquired the lightness and noiselessness. At the moment, ends the final stage of creation of check. By the way, the view has not changed much. And according to the developers, from domestic instance took the frame and wheel. It is known that the capacity varies from 8 to 20 kW. Experts expect a maximum speed of 150 kilometers per hour, but is recommended to drive a maximum 120 kilometers. The restyled model motorcycle has a smaller acceleration, firm brakes and easier controlled when cornering. Mass is also much smaller. Version has passed all the necessary tests. Plus is almost silent engine, which is very useful in a city where the lack of other noises. While working on this project was about. Though the model still requires several improvements, but the developers were satisfied. You will need regular charging, such as the computer to fully charge the unit, and all this will take about 4 hours. But the bike will be introduced changes, for example, a more powerful engine and new design. [© micetimes.asia] + https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/radical-jaguar-saloon-plotted-ev-shake Radical Jaguar saloon plotted in EV shake-up Feb 10, 2019 Meanwhile, the all-new XJ due next year is expected to be fully electric, which ... Autocar understands, is the likely future take-up rate for premium EV models ... https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/images/car-reviews/first-drives/legacy/jag_final.jpg?itok=8GtsPYiA For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/archive/ {brucedp.neocities.org} -- Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20190222
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-J-Rogers-s-Local-3Dprints-your-customized-EV-us-nomadic-resume-tp4692899.html EVLN: J.Rogers’s Local 3Dprints your customized EV.us> nomadic résumé An Ex-Marine Wants to Print Autonomous Vehicles for Your City Feb 16, 2019 He was certain Silicon Valley venture capitalists would buy in, but he soon found that the enormous investments flowing into early electric-vehicle companies ... https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/i.iSMcHB.LP0/v2/-999x-999.gif http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-spied-Tesla-Semi-e-truck-acceleration-on-ramp-v-tp4692900.html EVLN: (spied) Tesla Semi e-truck acceleration on ramp (v) Watch Tesla Semi electric truck accelerate on highway ramp unlike any other truck Feb. 21st 2019 less about Tesla's electric semi truck program lately, but the company is still testing the vehicle. A recent sighting of a Tesla Semi ... https://youtu.be/YFfdFfqPt4E + https://insideevs.com/four-advantages-manufacturing-evs/ Four Advantages Of Manufacturing EVs Over ICE Vehicles FEB 17 2019 The first great advantage that electric vehicle manufacturers have is the simple and yet powerful flexibility inherent in electric motors. A four-wheeled EV can ... https://d2t6ms4cjod3h9.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/IMG_20180919_171842.jpg https://channels.theinnovationenterprise.com/articles/amazon-will-lead-adoption-of-electric-vehicles-claims-morgan-stanley Amazon will lead adoption of electric vehicles claims Morgan Stanley 2019-02-21 Amazon is set to lead the way in taking electric vehicles "to the next level" because, as part of its carbon neutral initiative "Shipment Zero", it will integrate the ... https://dso7hsslwo1ge.cloudfront.net/images/sources/000/018/818/fullbox/Amazon_will_lead_adoption_of_electric_vehicles_claims_Morgan_Stanley_large.jpg?1550748097 http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVcrash-Tree-head-on-Tesla-fire-3-k-gals-of-water-poured-v-tp4692884.html EVcrash: Tree-head-on Tesla fire> 3+k gals of water poured (v) Fiery Tesla Model X crash in Fremont leaves driver injured February 18, 2019 - The driver of a Tesla Model X SUV survived what appeared to be a high-speed crash in Fremont after smashing head-on into a tree on Paseo ... https://d2t6ms4cjod3h9.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Capture-898x608.jpg For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/archive/ https://mail-archive.com/ev@lists.evdl.org/maillist.html {brucedp.neocities.org} -- Sent from: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] EVLN: J.Rogers’s Local 3Dprints your customized EV.us> nomadic résumé
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-02-16/an-ex-marine-wants-to-print-autonomous-vehicles-for-your-city An Ex-Marine Wants to Print Autonomous Vehicles for Your City February 16, 2019 Jeffrey Rothfeder [images / Lyndon French for Bloomberg Businessweek https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/i.iSMcHB.LP0/v2/-999x-999.gif (animated.gif) A time lapse of Local Motors’ 3D printer as it prints an Olli minibus https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/igJGD93xMTOI/v2/1400x-1.jpg Local’s self-driving Olli under construction https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iCBRoJbziZ1I/v4/1400x-1.jpg From left: An employee carries tires at the Knoxville headquarters; a miniature 3D-printed Olli https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/itbm2QpKd7SU/v3/1400x-1.jpg Local’s Knoxville headquarters https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iu7l8Dh6MuNs/v4/1400x-1.jpg From left: 3D-printing Olli; the metal material used in the process https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/i9oaO4osbDc4/v3/-999x-999.gif (animated.gif) Close-up of Local’s 3D printer https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iqizws.1Pm9Y/v4/1400x-1.jpg Rogers and employees with Olli’s skeleton ] Jay Rogers’s company, Local Motors, has buyers lined up. On an isolated stretch of industrial flatland outside Knoxville, Tenn., a minibus is taking shape in a car factory unlike any other. The space is small, the size of a supermarket, and all but tool-free. No pneumatic pumps, no shuttling parts bins, no robotic arms or conveyor belts carrying skeletons of cars. Instead, perched in the center is the world’s largest 3D printer, a gangly 10-by-40-foot behemoth with a steel-gray exterior, thick columnar footings, and derrick-like roof beams to true its frame. When the print heads are in motion, the equipment emits little more than a whisper, dexterously cutting sharp angles and rounded edges. Programmers on laptops and quality-control experts with tablets mill around, inputting design changes and fine-tuning the minibus’s sensor instructions. Beyond the assembly room lies a kind of alchemist’s playground, where young staffers with advanced degrees in materials science and mechanical engineering synthesize nanopolymers or test exotic particles for strength or thermal and electrical conductivity. [image] Jay Rogers, CEO of Local Motors. Photographer: Lyndon French for Bloomberg Businessweek The minibus, named Olli, is the latest offbeat product from Local Motors Inc., an 11-year-old startup. Costing around $400,000 and standing hunchbacked at about 8 feet tall, 7 feet wide, and 12 feet long, the self-driving electric bus seats 12 and can be hailed by an app. It was designed to ferry people around crowded urban downtowns, shopping districts, and large campuses and to help the elderly get around in suburban communities with little public transportation. And the minibus can be manufactured to order, so it could end up as a clinic on wheels, a roaming soup kitchen, or a traveling classroom. Olli also has sufficient artificial intelligence to converse with riders. One day, company co-founder and Chief Executive Officer John “Jay” Rogers hopes, it will be sophisticated enough to share a modified pesto recipe with a passenger, then reroute him to the grocery with the freshest sun-dried tomatoes. Olli took its maiden autonomous spin in July 2016 at a relatively empty Maryland real estate development. It’s since been street-tested in Berlin, Copenhagen, and other places. At the time the bus went on the market this fall, Local had first-year international orders for 70 vehicles. Initial buyers include Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co., the State University of New York at Buffalo, the Australian city of Adelaide, and Denmark’s largest automotive distributor, Semler Gruppen A/S. Selling cars isn’t entirely the point, though. “A lot of companies make cars,” says Rogers, a former serviceman who favors bow ties and a buzz cut. “That’s not us. We want to turn the rules of manufacturing upside down.” For such a mission-oriented company, Local has a haphazard origin story. In 1999, Rogers joined the U.S. Marine Corps, seeking to bring discipline to a desultory career that had taken him from aerospace engineering to a Chinese medical-equipment factory to investment banking. Even choosing to enlist was a bit random; he’d been about to enter the MBA program at Stanford, but on orientation day he struck up a conversation with a fellow student who’d been a Marine. “Why would you go to business school?” the man asked when he heard Rogers’s nomadic résumé. “You know business and banking. You need to learn how to lead people.” Within months, Rogers was in the service, not quite sure why or to what end. He stayed for two tours, including a deployment in Iraq. In April 2004 a platoon led by a buddy of his, Captain Brent Morel, was ambushed by several dozen Sunni insurgents as they traveled in a three-Humvee convoy through
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[EVDL] article: GreenPower launches EV Star CarGO Van; EV with 6,000 lb payload and 570 ft3 capacity
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