[EVDL] CC accepted?
I just got a CC from the EVDL. Is carbon copy now allowed with EVDL messages? Lawrence Rhodes ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
Re: [EVDL] Fossil fuel gets over 600 billion a year.
As far as I know if you send to or cc to the EVDL the message won't go through to the EVSL. All extra recipients must be blind (bcc) Lawrence Rhodes On Wednesday, July 21, 2021, 10:58:29 AM PDT, Peter VanDerWal wrote: It always seemed a bit silly to me to heavily tax something that you are subsidizing with tax revenue. All it does is create needless bureaucracy. Then again, creating needless bureaucracy is what our government does best. My PGP public key: https://vanderwal.us/evdl_pgp.key July 16, 2021 8:26 PM, "Lawrence Rhodes via EV" wrote: > Without subsidies gasoline would cost $12.75 a gallon. Biden is threatening > to end them. It's time > to question ownership of fossil fuel vehicles. Could be a gotcha coming for > those unaware. > Lawrence Rhodes > > https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/ending-the-climate-crisis/everything-you-need-to-know-about-fossil-fu > l-subsidies > > ___ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
Re: [EVDL] Fossil fuel gets over 600 billion a year.
To be (somewhat) fair, crude oil get's turned into more than just gas/diesel. Bunker fuel, tar, plastics, etc. Only about 65% or so becomes gas/diesel. My PGP public key: https://vanderwal.us/evdl_pgp.key July 17, 2021 9:14 AM, "Lawrence Rhodes via EV" wrote: > I divided the total subsides by the gallons of diesel and gas used in the > United States and got > $3.76. That would put gas at 8 dollars a gallon. Lawrence Rhodes > > On Saturday, July 17, 2021, 4:15:37 AM PDT, paul dove > wrote: > > FACT: Variations in gas prices are driven by the world market, and are not > dependent on U.S. > government policies. This includes the existing subsidies for the oil and gas > industry according to > multiple studies that have found that repealing oil and gas subsidies would > have only a marginal > impact on gas prices. Assistant Secretary of the Treasury Alan Krueger > estimated in 2009 that > “eliminating [oil and gas subsidies] would have an insignificant effect on > world oil prices.”1 > Analysis by the think tank Resources for the Future arrived at a similar > conclusion, finding that > eliminating oil and gas tax preferences would increase the world oil price by > just 10 cents per > barrel in 2030.2 This minimal increase in cost would translate to an extra > expenditure of $2.17 per > year on petroleum products for the average U.S. consumer.3 At the same time, > the U.S. government – > by eliminating unnecessary subsidies for oil and gas - would be saving on the > order of $10 billion > per year4 that could be invested in other national priorities like defense, > transportation, or > alternative energy > Oil & Gas Subsidies: Myth vs. Fact > > https://usa.oceana.org/oil-gas-subsidies-myth-vs-fact > > Sent from AT Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > On Friday, July 16, 2021, 10:27 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV > wrote: > >> Without subsidies gasoline would cost $12.75 a gallon. Biden is threatening >> to end them. It's time >> to question ownership of fossil fuel vehicles. Could be a gotcha coming for >> those unaware. >> Lawrence Rhodes >> >> https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/ending-the-climate-crisis/everything-you-need-to-know-about-fossil-fu >> l-subsidies >> >> ___ >> Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org >> No other addresses in TO and CC fields >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive >> LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >>> > > ___ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
Re: [EVDL] Fossil fuel gets over 600 billion a year.
It always seemed a bit silly to me to heavily tax something that you are subsidizing with tax revenue. All it does is create needless bureaucracy. Then again, creating needless bureaucracy is what our government does best. My PGP public key: https://vanderwal.us/evdl_pgp.key July 16, 2021 8:26 PM, "Lawrence Rhodes via EV" wrote: > Without subsidies gasoline would cost $12.75 a gallon. Biden is threatening > to end them. It's time > to question ownership of fossil fuel vehicles. Could be a gotcha coming for > those unaware. > Lawrence Rhodes > > https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/ending-the-climate-crisis/everything-you-need-to-know-about-fossil-fu > l-subsidies > > ___ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
Re: [EVDL] The Verge: One of the biggest myths about EVs is busted in new study
Although he dealt with HCs, CO, NOx, SO2, and particulates, but not CO2, one of our own list members, Chip Gribben, put paid to that rubbish about 25 years ago. His thoroughly researched paper, "Debunking the Myth of EVs and Smokestacks," is available in the EVDL library: http://evdl.org/docs/powerplant.pdf David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different from saying that you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say. -- Edward Snowden = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
[EVDL] The Verge: One of the biggest myths about EVs is busted in new study
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