Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS
Having a lot of experience with all 3 connectors and being an Electrical Engineer, I have to say Tesla's connector is superior to CCS or CHAdeMO. It's more rugged, cheaper to manufacture, and uses less space and materials. If Tesla had "opened" its standard before CCS was ratified, then maybe they would have had a chance at being a standard. Too little too late. Now Tesla is going to have to add the clunky CCS connectors to its network at considerable expense. On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 7:09 PM John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > On 12/15/2022 6:12 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: > > On 15 Dec 2022 at 11:23, Evan Tuer via EV wrote: > > > >> I know that they are trying to get the Tesla plug legislated as the US > >> standard but that's inevitably going to fail and seems rather bad faith. > > Oh great. That's much like what GM did with the EV1 inductive paddle. > What > > a dead end that was. > The one thing is that the Tesla plug can handle more current, and is > easier for the end user. > ___ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20221215/3d357e5a/attachment.htm> ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
Re: [EVDL] Sticky EV Problem
Tom, Did you use heatshrink on the cables? I know of many types of Heat Shrink that has heat activated glue inside to adhere to the cable it is crimped onto, maybe that glue migrated to the wire strands? Alternatively, maybe the cable insulation expelled something, possibly under high temp, which then dried on the connections? Cor. On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 2:10 PM Tom Jones via EV wrote: > > I have a conversion that has been on the road since 2009. It has a Zilla > 1kLV and a Warp9 for propulsion. The traction pack consists of 44 CALB > 180 Ah cells for about 150 volts. > > The Zilla, hairball, two contactors, breaker and a shunt have been in an > aluminum box for all those years. I recently had reason to open the box > and check connections and see if there was anything going wrong. The box > is not water tight but the contents were dry and generally very clean, > there were no signs of any problems. > > When I took apart some of the high current connections, I found them to > be covered with a very sticky clear film. That film was very hard to > remove. Acetone and a lot of rubbing did a fair job of cleaning the > contacts. But, it was not easy. Only the high current contacts had this > problem. Inside the box, no other surface had the sticky film. > > So, here is my question, does anyone on this list have any idea about > how that sticky film developed? Or, has anyone else ever seen this issue? > > Tom Jones > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20221215/4513b3eb/attachment.htm> > ___ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
Re: [EVDL] EV Highway Use Fee alternative (Virginia)
I haven’t. I’d probably go over with mileage anyway. Plus it would just remind me all the time how stupid the whole EV tax thing is. I’m in northern VA where we have to get emissions inspections since car pollution is such a problem. Yet now I’m being penalized with an EV tax for trying to help out! Plus they tax hybrids. Hybrids get all their energy ultimately from gas, for which they already pay tax. So we are being penalized for being efficient. So why don’t they give rebates to gas guzzlers? Ugh don’t get me started …. -Steve > On Dec 15, 2022, at 9:16 PM, Mark E. Hanson via EV wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > > > Has anyone fooled with this? > > > > https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/general/#va_mileage_choice.asp > > > > Just curious if you think if it's worth the fuss, to get a vehicle > monitoring position/odometer GPS through Emovis, download SmartPhone app etc > to save a few bucks on the VA EV tax (vs the fixed fee <11.6K miles). > > > > > > Have a renewable energy day, > > > > Mark > > > > Mark E. Hanson > > 184 Vista Lane > > Fincastle, VA 24090 > > 540-473-1248 phone & FAX, 540-816-0812 cell > > REEVA: community service RE & EV project club > > Website: www.REEVAdiy.org <http://www.REEVAdiy.org> (See Project Gallery) > > UL Certified PV Installer > > My RE Circuits: www.EVDL.org/lib/mh <http://www.EVDL.org/lib/mh> > > REEVA Demo: http://youtu.be/4kqWn2H-rA0 > > Fincastle Solar Weather Station > <https://www.weatherlink.com/embeddablePage/show/a88920376f864ecabaed843dd89 > 75b8d/signature> > > > > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20221215/c12a211a/attachment.htm> > ___ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS
On 12/15/2022 6:12 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: On 15 Dec 2022 at 11:23, Evan Tuer via EV wrote: I know that they are trying to get the Tesla plug legislated as the US standard but that's inevitably going to fail and seems rather bad faith. Oh great. That's much like what GM did with the EV1 inductive paddle. What a dead end that was. The one thing is that the Tesla plug can handle more current, and is easier for the end user. ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
[EVDL] EV Highway Use Fee alternative (Virginia)
Hi Folks, Has anyone fooled with this? https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/general/#va_mileage_choice.asp Just curious if you think if it's worth the fuss, to get a vehicle monitoring position/odometer GPS through Emovis, download SmartPhone app etc to save a few bucks on the VA EV tax (vs the fixed fee <11.6K miles). Have a renewable energy day, Mark Mark E. Hanson 184 Vista Lane Fincastle, VA 24090 540-473-1248 phone & FAX, 540-816-0812 cell REEVA: community service RE & EV project club Website: www.REEVAdiy.org <http://www.REEVAdiy.org> (See Project Gallery) UL Certified PV Installer My RE Circuits: www.EVDL.org/lib/mh <http://www.EVDL.org/lib/mh> REEVA Demo: http://youtu.be/4kqWn2H-rA0 Fincastle Solar Weather Station <https://www.weatherlink.com/embeddablePage/show/a88920376f864ecabaed843dd89 75b8d/signature> -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20221215/c12a211a/attachment.htm> ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS
On 15 Dec 2022 at 11:23, Evan Tuer via EV wrote: > I know that they are trying to get the Tesla plug legislated as the US > standard but that's inevitably going to fail and seems rather bad faith. Oh great. That's much like what GM did with the EV1 inductive paddle. What a dead end that was. Musk can shove his bloody charging plug somewhere painful. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = A great many people think they are thinking when they are really rearranging their prejudices. -- Edward R Murrow = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
[EVDL] Sticky EV Problem
I have a conversion that has been on the road since 2009. It has a Zilla 1kLV and a Warp9 for propulsion. The traction pack consists of 44 CALB 180 Ah cells for about 150 volts. The Zilla, hairball, two contactors, breaker and a shunt have been in an aluminum box for all those years. I recently had reason to open the box and check connections and see if there was anything going wrong. The box is not water tight but the contents were dry and generally very clean, there were no signs of any problems. When I took apart some of the high current connections, I found them to be covered with a very sticky clear film. That film was very hard to remove. Acetone and a lot of rubbing did a fair job of cleaning the contacts. But, it was not easy. Only the high current contacts had this problem. Inside the box, no other surface had the sticky film. So, here is my question, does anyone on this list have any idea about how that sticky film developed? Or, has anyone else ever seen this issue? Tom Jones -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20221215/4513b3eb/attachment.htm> ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
Re: [EVDL] Tesla accepting CCS
I'm sure most will know this but in Europe, and maybe some other parts of the world, the V2 superchargers all have CCS connectors as well as Tesla's "adapted" Type 2 plug (that's different from the US Tesla plug). The V3 superchargers (and all Teslas since I think 2019) have gone CCS only. Older cars (like mine) can be upgraded to work with CCS, which involves a new charging interface module, and then a fairly compact adaptor. Some of the CCS facilities can be used by non-Tesla cars, via an app. Yes, the charging port locations don't match anything else and the cables are short, so this can cause chaotic parking. So this shows it's doable, and my guess is that even US Tesla, which I understand is dominant in terms of charger provision right now will have to come around to what everyone else is using eventually. I know that they are trying to get the Tesla plug legislated as the US standard but that's inevitably going to fail and seems rather bad faith. On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 11:49 AM (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > There are a lot of older V1/V2 stations still out there, which they were > replacing with V3 (250kW), now they are rolling out V4 which is supposedly > capable of CCS. Maybe this is what they are calling a "magic dock". > > > https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tesla-to-build-the-world-s-biggest-CCS-compatible-Supercharger-locations-with-Magic-Docks.649468.0.html > Could also be Arizona: > > https://electrek.co/2022/09/12/tesla-supercharger-v4-station-megapack-solar-glimpse-future/ > > I would imagine the pedestal design will be different than what those > articles show, because they will probably need a user interface for CCS > customers. > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 3:58 AM wrote: > > > Thanks Phil. > > > > > > > > I haven't seen any here, just wondering the timeline… > > > > > > > > > > > > Have a renewable energy day, > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > Mark E. Hanson > > > > 184 Vista Lane > > > > Fincastle, VA 24090 > > > > 540-473-1248 phone & FAX, 540-816-0812 cell > > > > REEVA: community service RE & EV project club > > > > Website: www.REEVAdiy.org (See Project Gallery) > > > > *UL* Certified PV Installer > > > > My RE Circuits: www.EVDL.org/lib/mh > > > > REEVA Demo: http://youtu.be/4kqWn2H-rA0 > > > > Fincastle Solar Weather Station > > < > https://www.weatherlink.com/embeddablePage/show/a88920376f864ecabaed843dd8975b8d/signature > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* (-Phil-) > > *Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2022 5:29 PM > > *To:* Mark Hanson > > *Subject:* Re: Tesla accepting CCS > > > > > > > > They have announced they are going to do it. Yeah, I have no idea about > > their timeline. In Europe, they are much farther ahead. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 1:26 PM Mark Hanson > > wrote: > > > > Hi Phil > > Is Tesla actually modifying their superchargers to accept CCS? That may > > take a long time. > > Best regards > > Mark > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20221213/bc34304b/attachment.htm > > > ___ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20221215/c46aeddd/attachment.htm> ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
