Re: [EVDL] video: World's largest lithium company mass producing solid state batteries

[Paul Wujek via EV]

Here's one article:
https://carnewschina.com/2022/01/23/dongfeng-e70-launched-with-a-solid-state-battery-50-demonstration-cars-delivered/

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 8:25 PM Peri Hartman via EV 
wrote:

> Paul, if you could find a written article, I also would appreciate that.
> I rarely watch videos, partly because it takes too much time and partly
> because I find it much easier to absorb info from reading than from
> audio or video.
>
> Thanks.
>
> << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >>
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> -- Original Message --
> From: "paul dove via EV" 
> To: "Paul Wujek via EV" 
> Cc: "paul dove" 
> Sent: 26-Jan-22 13:15:08
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] video: World's largest lithium company mass
> producing solid state batteries
>
> >  Actually the article does give a reference the the information in the
> video.
> >Dongfeng Technology Center and Ganfeng Lithium Power officially signed a
> contract in July 2021, the two sides discussed the demonstration and
> operation cooperation of solid-state battery, and signed a demonstration
> and promotion agreement on solid-state battery E70 model. It is understood
> that this year, Dongfeng will take the lead to complete the solid-state
> battery car announcement and complete the vehicle delivery before the
> Spring Festival.
> >
> > On Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 01:17:08 PM CST, Paul Wujek via EV <
> ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> >
> >  That article you referenced and the video are about different
> developments.
> >
> >The video concerns a new EV that has been announced as being available
> >right now in China with solid-state batteries.
> >
> >This is the first time I am aware of that any vehicle has entered series
> >production with solid-state batteries.
> >
> >On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 2:12 PM EV List Lackey via EV 
> >wrote:
> >
> >>  On 26 Jan 2022 at 7:58, Paul Wujek via EV wrote:
> >>
> >>  > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKqpZG-s_ac
> >>
> >>  Sorry, I'm not that keen on sitting through a video clip when I can
> read
> >>  something in 1/10 the time, so I found this:
> >>
> >>https://news.metal.com/newscontent/101690892/Here-comes-the-solid-state-
> >>
> battery-The-lithium-giant-says-it-can-be-mass-produced-and-loaded-at-any-
> >>  time/
> >>  <
> https://news.metal.com/newscontent/101690892/Here-comes-the-solid-state-battery-The-lithium-giant-says-it-can-be-mass-produced-and-loaded-at-any-time/
> >
> >>
> >>  or https://v.gd/S0Z3FF
> >>
> >>  The translation from the Chinese isn't great.  I can grok most of it
> but
> >>  have no idea what on earth this is supposed to mean:
> >>
> >>  "can be ... loaded at any time"
> >>
> >>  "it should not be mass production in the short term. BYD does not need
> to
> >>  fight for eyeballs like other car companies, but pursues technologies
> that
> >>  can be popularized on a large scale at low cost and products that bring
> >>  tangible benefits to consumers."
> >>
> >>  I hope someone more familiar with this stuff can comment.  The news
> piece
> >>  makes rahter extravagant claims for specific energy.  Exactly what ARE
> >>  "solid state" batteries, and what *demonstrable* advantages do they
> offer?
> >>
> >>  I tend to be pretty skeptical about alleged battery developments.  In
> 55
> >>  years of following EVs I've read of a LOT of "revolutionary" batteries
> >>  that
> >>  were going to give us EVs that could drive to the moon on one charge.
> >>  Most
> >>  of them never left the lab.  Typically they stalled because they
> couldn't
> >>  be
> >>  scaled up from small, low capacity models, because they couldn't be
> >>  produced
> >>  economically, or because the developers were nothing more than shysters
> >>  looking for gullible investors.  Sometimes all of the above.
> >>
> >>  David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey
> >>
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> >>   follow.  Check the one that most closely describes your current
> >>   outlook. (

Re: [EVDL] video: World's largest lithium company mass producing solid state batteries

[Paul Wujek via EV]

That article you referenced and the video are about different developments.

The video concerns a new EV that has been announced as being available
right now in China with solid-state batteries.

This is the first time I am aware of that any vehicle has entered series
production with solid-state batteries.

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 2:12 PM EV List Lackey via EV 
wrote:

> On 26 Jan 2022 at 7:58, Paul Wujek via EV wrote:
>
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKqpZG-s_ac
>
> Sorry, I'm not that keen on sitting through a video clip when I can read
> something in 1/10 the time, so I found this:
>
> https://news.metal.com/newscontent/101690892/Here-comes-the-solid-state-
> battery-The-lithium-giant-says-it-can-be-mass-produced-and-loaded-at-any-
> time/
> <https://news.metal.com/newscontent/101690892/Here-comes-the-solid-state-battery-The-lithium-giant-says-it-can-be-mass-produced-and-loaded-at-any-time/>
>
> or https://v.gd/S0Z3FF
>
> The translation from the Chinese isn't great.  I can grok most of it but
> have no idea what on earth this is supposed to mean:
>
> "can be ... loaded at any time"
>
> "it should not be mass production in the short term. BYD does not need to
> fight for eyeballs like other car companies, but pursues technologies that
> can be popularized on a large scale at low cost and products that bring
> tangible benefits to consumers."
>
> I hope someone more familiar with this stuff can comment.  The news piece
> makes rahter extravagant claims for specific energy.  Exactly what ARE
> "solid state" batteries, and what *demonstrable* advantages do they offer?
>
> I tend to be pretty skeptical about alleged battery developments.  In 55
> years of following EVs I've read of a LOT of "revolutionary" batteries
> that
> were going to give us EVs that could drive to the moon on one charge.
> Most
> of them never left the lab.  Typically they stalled because they couldn't
> be
> scaled up from small, low capacity models, because they couldn't be
> produced
> economically, or because the developers were nothing more than shysters
> looking for gullible investors.  Sometimes all of the above.
>
> David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey
>
> To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it.  Use my
> offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt
>
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>  Just How Bad is Your Job, #13: Philosophy of Life.  Two statements
>  follow.  Check the one that most closely describes your current
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[EVDL] video: World's largest lithium company mass producing solid state batteries

[Paul Wujek via EV]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKqpZG-s_ac

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Re: [EVDL] Tesla Y actual wall outlet efficiency

[Paul Wujek via EV]

> Steel/Aluminum:
> 3/Y are steel frame as a cost reduction measure. Tesla used aluminum on
S/X.

Correction: Model Y frames for lately built cars use aluminum sections from
the Giga-press and are lighter than the previous steel ones.

On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 2:49 PM Haudy Kazemi via EV 
wrote:

> Efficiency:
> There are multiple legitimate ways to measure efficiency in terms of energy
> consumption. What matters is that when one compares energy consumption,
> that one knows what parts of the energy flow in the system are being
> measured and compared. A vehicle tank-to-wheels efficiency measurement will
> show lower kJ/mile than a well-to-wheels measurement. And the
> well-to-wheels measurement will vary by production and refinery methods,
> even if the vehicle remains the same. The measurement units may be the
> same, but what they're measuring can vary, and may not be comparable.
>
> Steel/Aluminum:
> 3/Y are steel frame as a cost reduction measure. Tesla used aluminum on
> S/X.
>
> Even on bicycles, a steel frame and aluminum frame can be closer in weight
> than one might assume. That's because aluminum has a brittle failure mode
> that steel does not. Steel bends/stretches/is ductile when it is
> approaching its limits. Aluminum tends to crack. The result is to ensure an
> aluminum frame is strong enough to survive road shock, it must be built
> from correspondingly larger/thicker parts than when steel is used.
>
> On a related note, that also means that there is a distinct advantage to
> using steel for components that could lead to disaster if they experienced
> a sudden failure.
>
> Aero:
> Air resistance increases energy consumption at all speeds. It rapidly
> becomes large at high speeds, as it increases by speed (actually velocity)
> squared. There isn't a single speed across all vehicles where air
> resistance becomes the dominant factor. 55 is just a rule of thumb, but
> isn't actually a special value. A brick may be way under 55. A sleek
> aircraft may be way over 55.
>
> The actual measured effect aero has on vehicle energy consumption is a
> function of the drag coefficient (Cd) and exposed frontal area. A Prius can
> have lower energy consumption than a motorcycle in part because it has a
> lower Cd even though the frontal area is more. (The Atkinson cycle engine
> also helps).
>
> Weight:
> Weight has some effect of efficiency. It especially as an effect in terms
> of acceleration/deceleration losses (which may be partially reduced via
> gentle  acceleration/regen). It also increases rolling resistance as a tire
> deforms (which can be reduced via high tire pressures). Railroad cars have
> pretty low rolling resistance...steel wheels on steel rail do not deform
> much from increased weight.
>
> Effects on losses:
> Wh/mile is a function of all of these factors. Which factor dominates will
> vary by vehicle design, load, and driving pattern. An aerodynamic vehicle
> will have lower aero losses than a brick. A lighter car will have lower
> rolling resistance losses than an otherwise identical but heavier car. A
> slow
> driver will have lower aero losses than a fast driver. A steady route will
> have lower losses than a stop and go route that has the same average speed.
>
> 3 mi/kWh aka 333 Wh/mi is a decent all around rule of thumb for many EVs
> including the original Model S. It's enough to cover some electric
> resistance cabin heating too. More efficient EVs that have better aero, and
> HVAC heat pumps, and permanent magnet motors, including later updates to
> Model S, have brought the number under 300. Model 3 and Y can be near 250
> Wh/mile or 4 mi/kWh, which matches Mark's observations.
>
>
>
> On Dec 30, 2021, 11:46 paul dove via EV  wrote:
>
> > Well, that’s not how efficiency is measured but I think I know what you
> > mean. The Wh per mile is mostly a function of weight. Aero starts to
> weigh
> > in around 55mph. On conversions a good estimate is weight divided by 10.
> My
> > car weighs 3100 lbs with me in it and I got around 300wh/m. Tesla beat
> this
> > by making the battery a larger percentage of total weight by using
> > aluminum. No one else comes close. I think the Bolt is close to the rule
> of
> > thumb.
> >
> >
> > Sent from AT Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, December 30, 2021, 8:32 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <
> > ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> >
> > That's very cool to hear. I have heard over the years that the defacto
> > EV efficiency is about 3 miles per kWh, measured at the battery, or 333
> > Wh per mile. So Tesla has done a great job. I wonder what the Bolt and
> > some other longer range EVs can do.
> >
> > Peri
> >
> > << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >>
> >
> > -- Original Message --
> > From: "Mark Hanson via EV" 
> > To: ev@lists.evdl.org
> > Cc: "Mark Hanson" 
> > Sent: 30-Dec-21 06:17:32
> > Subject: [EVDL] Tesla Y actual wall outlet efficiency
> >
> > >Hi folks
> > >My heavy 4400lb Tesla Y is more efficient 

Re: [EVDL] %Happy Earth Day%> You Should Still Consider An EV

[Paul Wujek via EV]

A hundred years ago industry and houses burnt coal or wood, cities were
already very smoggy.

Model-Ts and the like were also running around at that time, you have to go
back even further to get to clean air.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:14 PM Ed Blackmond via EV 
wrote:

> I’ll give another reason. More than five weeks into our sequestration, I
> am amazed at how clear the air is as I look out from my windows across San
> Francisco Bay and Silicon without all the internal combustion engine
> vehicles on the roads.
>
> I swear, with a pair of binoculars, I could see leaves on trees in the
> Santa Cruz mountains.  Before this, on some days I couldn’t even see the
> mountains.  This must be what it was like one hundred years ago. If only
> all the vehicles were electric.
>
> Ed
>
> > On Apr 22, 2020, at 10:10 PM, evln via EV  wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimgorzelany/2020/04/22/happy-earth-day-heres-why-you-should-still-consider-an-electric-car-when-gas-is-cheap/#4e0c282c5bc4
> > Happy Earth Day—Here’s Why You Should Still Consider An Electric Car When
> > Gas Is Cheap
> > Apr 22, 2020 ... They Run Silently ... They’re Faster Than You Might
> Think
> > ... They’re Cheaper To Own ... But relatively few people have still yet
> to
> > so much ride in an electric vehicle, ...
> >
> https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5ea072c9aa3f4a000733e962/960x0.jpg
> >
> >
> > + anti-EV forked tongue (quits h2 sedans  on h2 trucks)
> >
> https://electrek.co/2020/04/22/daimler-ends-hydrogen-car-development-because-its-too-costly/
> > Daimler ends hydrogen car development because it’s too costly
> > Apr. 22nd 2020 ...
> > https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2020/04/vw-h2.jpg
> > ...
> >
> https://www.ccjdigital.com/daimler-volvo-group-announce-hydrogen-partnership/
> > Daimler, Volvo Group announce hydrogen partnership
> > April 21, 2020 ... joint venture charged with the development, production
> > and commercialization of h2fc for heavy-duty vehicle applications and
> other
> > use cases ...
> > ... (dated)
> >
> https://electrek.co/2019/11/10/honda-works-on-second-ev-quits-diesel-and-puts-hydrogen-on-hold/
> > Honda ... puts hydrogen on hold
> > Nov. 10th 2019 ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > For EVLN EV-newswire posts view:
> > http://www.evdl.org/archive/
> > https://mail-archive.com/ev@lists.evdl.org/maillist.html
> >
> >
> > {brucedp.neocities.org}
> >
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[EVDL] article: Siemens Receives First Order For Battery-Powered Trains

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https://insideevs.com/news/405008/siemens-first-order-battery-powered-trains/

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Re: [EVDL] OT Possible way to get rid of COVID-19 , colds, flu...

[Paul Wujek via EV]

Please do not post unvalidated medical advice to this list or anywhere else
for that matter.

Administrator can you please remove this post?

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 10:40 AM Peri Hartman via EV 
wrote:

> I, also, think this is good advice. However, be careful not to elevate
> your temperature too much or you will cause damage to your cells,
> particularly in the brain - starting around 104F, I think.
>
> Peri
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "jerry freedomev via EV" 
> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" 
> Cc: "jerry freedomev" 
> Sent: 19-Mar-20 2:29:35 AM
> Subject: [EVDL] OT Possible way to get rid of COVID-19 , colds, flu...
>
> >   Hi All,   Sorry about OT but this seems too important not to post
> now.  This is an e mail I sent to a friend might be of help to you, your
> family.  If any doctors want to comment please do as I'm not one, just has
> long worked for me.
> >
> >Hi John,  I actually have a possible cure for virus' that worked again
> last week.  Your immune system is turned on by high body temp, thus why you
> get a fever.  What I do if I get sick is wrap up as hot as can stand when
> I  go to bed and when I wake up 90% of the time I've been well  for 3
> decades now.  Sweating is good so make sure you stay hydrated so you can
> sweat  safely.My sister-in-law I care for gave it to me after she caught it
> from a doctor's appointment.  I got rid of it the first night..  We match
> all the symptoms except fever. So if you, your wife gets sick from any body
> infection, especially virus', maybe give it a try.  And don't take aspirin,
> etc fever reducers as you want a high temp unless gets too high say 103f
> and then only enough to lower it some.. And remember many drugs have a
> fever reducer mixed it.Though for this virus they say don't come in until
> 104F which is rather high for people over 50, hard to do..  As we age our
> bodies need more help as doesn't react
>  as well as when young .
> >Jerry
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[EVDL] article: Formula E season suspended due to coronavirus fears

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https://www.engadget.com/2020/03/13/formula-e-suspended-coronavirus/

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[EVDL] video: Ripsaw M5 Electric Drive Super Tank

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NX7btiWLa0

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[EVDL] article: GM building $2 billion dollar electric vehicle battery factory in Ohio

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A chart at the end of this article shows all of the lithium battery 
plants scheduled to be built from now to 2028.


https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2019/12/05/gm-building-billion-dollar-electric-vehicle-battery-factory-in-michigan/

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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: NASA X-57 Maxwell e-plane w/ 14 e-motors> fly in 2020

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On 2019-11-11 10:13 a.m., Peri Hartman via EV wrote:

Does anyone know why it is better ?


I'm not an engineer, but I think that having accelerated air from the props 
along the whole length of the wing creates additional lift.


With a single prop the air from the prop would only add lift in the area near 
the fuselage.

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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20191109

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Hi Bruce,

I see that you are becoming so efficient that you are now posting messages from 
5 days in the future :-).


(i.e. 20191109 is next Saturday)

On 2019-11-04 12:35 a.m., brucedp5 via EV wrote:

Some stuff...

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[EVDL] article: This Inside-Out Motor for EVs Is Power Dense and (Finally) Practical

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Yet another motor design that claims to be better than other motor designs:

https://spectrum.ieee.org/transportation/alternative-transportation/this-insideout-motor-for-evs-is-power-dense-and-finally-practical

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[EVDL] article: VW is providing electric powertrains to convert classic Beetles

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Only available from a company in Germany for now:
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/09/05/volkswagen-eclassics-e-beetle-electric-conversion-official/
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[EVDL] video: Tesla Model S vs Porsche Tacan

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Illustration of how mainstream manufacturers still don't get it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD-qG_6Pd1Y

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[EVDL] article: Electric car catches fire and explodes in Île-Bizard garage

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/electric-car-catches-fire-and-explodes-in-%C3%AEle-bizard-garage-1.5227665

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Re: [EVDL] Excellent article

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On 2019-06-26 9:43 p.m., Bill Dube via EV wrote:
I really would like to know what motivates Toyota to keep pushing H2 passenger 
cars.
I have always suspected that the Toyota H2 push is because of interference from 
the Japanese government and oil companies who likely hold a lot of sway in how 
Toyota operates.

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[EVDL] article: Interview: Shea Nyquist's home-made electric land speed attempt

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https://newatlas.com/shea-nyquist-interview-electric-land-speed/59539/
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[EVDL] article: Ford Transit Electric: all-new fully electric van on the way in 2021

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https://www.drivingelectric.com/ford/transit/987/ford-transit-electric-all-new-fully-electric-van-way-2021
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[EVDL] article: Canadian e-bus maker diversifies with e-truck Lion8

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https://www.electrive.com/2019/03/12/canadian-e-bus-company-diversifies-with-e-truck-lion8/
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[EVDL] article: Racing,Infamous 24 Hours of Lemons Introduces Full-Electric Class with 5½ Tons of Money as Prize

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https://jalopnik.com/the-infamous-24-hours-of-lemons-introduces-a-new-full-e-1832995045
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[EVDL] article: A Behind the Scenes Take on Lithium-ion Battery Prices

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Bloomberg's summary of the current state of battery prices:

https://about.bnef.com/blog/behind-scenes-take-lithium-ion-battery-prices
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[EVDL] Machine that hauls 2 x 80, 000 lb batteries for mining equipment

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Skookum/comments/au26ec/posted_the_bottom_pic_a_couple_of_weeks_ago_heres/
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[EVDL] article: GreenPower launches EV Star CarGO Van; EV with 6,000 lb payload and 570 ft3 capacity

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https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/02/20190219-greenpower.html
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[EVDL] article: All-electric BMW i7 with a 600-km range supposedly in the works

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https://www.evspecifications.com/en/news/ac0d21
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[EVDL] article: Electric SUVs racing in the Himalayas and the Amazon? Meet Extreme E

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https://arstechnica.com/cars/2019/01/electric-suvs-racing-in-the-himalayas-and-the-amazon-meet-extreme-e/
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[EVDL] article: This China-Made Electric Pickup Truck Could Be Yours for $5, 000

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-24/a-5-000-electric-pickup-truck-from-china-wants-to-enter-u-s
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[EVDL] article Construction equipment is going electric, Volvo CE now favours electric over diesel for smaller machines

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Electrically powered construction equipment is becoming commercially available.

https://electrek.co/2019/01/17/construction-equipment-electric-volvo-ce/
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[EVDL] article: For the first time, a Chinese car is coming to the US—and it’s electric

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https://qz.com/1500303/chinas-qiantu-will-be-first-chinese-electric-carmaker-to-challenge-tesla-in-the-us/
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[EVDL] article: Greenworks debuts first UL-certified battery-powered ZTR and stand-on mowers

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https://www.totallandscapecare.com/landscaping-equipment/greenworks-debuts-first-ul-certified-battery-powered-ztr-and-stand-on-mowers/
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[EVDL] article: Electric Vehicles And Disinformation

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/enriquedans/2018/07/03/electric-vehicles-and-disinformation/#5686c76831e5 




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[EVDL] article: NCM 811: SK innovation vs. LG Chem

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Discussion of upcoming cells from SK and LG:

https://pushevs.com/2018/04/02/ncm-811-sk-innovation-vs-lg-chem/

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[EVDL] video: 40-tonne mining truck

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[EVDL] article: Goodyear unveils new tire for electric cars to reduce wear from powerful instant torque

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https://electrek.co/2018/03/08/goodyear-tire-electric-cars-reduce-wear-instant-torque/

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[EVDL] article: The Breakneck Rise of China’s Colossus of Electric-Car Batteries

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Chinese plans for lithium cell production far surpass other countries:

https://www.bloomberg.com/hyperdrive

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[EVDL] article: 2018 Nissan Leaf battery real,specs

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https://pushevs.com/2018/01/29/2018-nissan-leaf-battery-real-specs/

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[EVDL] article: Worked for 52 Years, Still Running: 1912 C-T 4WD Electric Truck

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https://bringatrailer.com/2018/01/20/worked-for-52-years-still-running-1912-c-t-4wd-electric-truck
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[EVDL] video: using Nissan Leaf as a snow plough

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[EVDL] article: Lightyear unveils solar-powered car with a 500-mile driving range

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article:
http://inhabitat.com/lightyear-unveils-solar-powered-car-with-a-500-mile-driving-range/

company site: https://www.lightyear.one - €119,000:


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[EVDL] article: 202 BMW 4 Series GT Electric will take on Tesla Model 3

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http://www.bmwblog.com/2017/05/12/202-bmw-4-series-gt-electric-will-take-tesla-model-3/

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[EVDL] article: The Electric-Car Boom Is So Real Even Oil Companies Say It's Coming

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-04-25/electric-car-boom-seen-triggering-peak-oil-demand-in-2030s
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Re: [EVDL] EV Spare Tire

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On 2017-04-22 07:45 AM, Chris Tromley via EV wrote:

Still working on a way to get a small scissors jack
See if you can find one from an early '90s VW, they are half a scissors 
jack and quite small but effective.

I use one from a 91 Golf.
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla cell size

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On 2017-04-12 08:45 AM, Mark Hanson via EV wrote:

Is tesla still using 6800 or so of 18650 itty bitty cells in their on road 
vehicles like the S and model 3?  Do they use these small cells in their Tesla 
Wall home UPS packs as well?  I wonder if they'll continue these small cells at 
their giga factory in Reno since*no*  other manufacturer is doing so.
Best regards
Mark
Actually Mark, 18650s are so last-year, they are using 2170 cells now 
for all of their products, and yes they will continue to use them for 
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[EVDL] Ontario has increased EV incentives

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One of the highlights:

Removes the cap limiting EV incentives to 30 per cent of the 
manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP)


see: 
https://news.ontario.ca/ene/en/2017/02/ontario-making-electric-vehicles-more-affordable.html



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[EVDL] article: Nissan preps to mass produce $17K EV

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Not much information here, we'll have to wait to see if we hear more 
about it:


http://seekingalpha.com/news/3231278-nissan-preps-mass-produce-17k-ev


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[EVDL] article: Nissan Leaf will get a 40 kWh battery this year

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http://pushevs.com/2016/07/15/nissan-leaf-will-get-a-40-kwh-battery-this-year/

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[EVDL] article: The LeSee EV sedan is China’s latest Tesla beater

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Concept car, claimed to be in testing:

http://www.carnewschina.com/2016/04/20/the-lesee-ev-sedan-is-chinas-latest-tesla-beater/
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[EVDL] article: ORNL surges forward with 20-kilowatt wireless charging for vehicles

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https://www.ornl.gov/news/ornl-surges-forward-20-kilowatt-wireless-charging-vehicles
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[EVDL] article: Netherlands Moves To Only Allow EV Sales By 2025 – End Of Gas, Petrol

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A few days ago I posted a link about India, now here's another country 
heard from:


http://insideevs.com/netherlands-moves-to-allow-only-all-evs-by-2025-no-more-gas-diesel-sales/
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[EVDL] article: India wants to become a 100% electric vehicle nation by the year 2030

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http://inhabitat.com/india-wants-to-become-a-100-electric-vehicle-nation-by-the-year-2030/
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[EVDL] article: After 2025 Norway Will Only Allow New Electric Vehicles

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They include both cars and trucks:

http://www.carstoofast.com/after-2025-norway-will-only-allow-new-electric-vehicles/

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[EVDL] Kickstarter: JuicePlug - a Universal Smart EV Charging Adapter

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This might be useful for some of you.

project description: "Turn any EVSE into a smart charging station, enjoy 
world-class smartphone / web interfaces, and charge your EV using clean 
energy"


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/emw/juiceplug-a-universal-smart-ev-charging-adapter/description
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[EVDL] article: Nissan Leaf Batteries Upgrade Old Truck Conversion

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http://hackaday.com/2016/03/05/nissan-leaf-batteries-upgrade-old-truck-conversion/

also a different conversion from the comments to that article: 
http://www.wolftronix.com/E10_LithiumUpgrade/index.html

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[EVDL] article: Tesla OS hacker points to upcoming Model S P100D in cryptic message to Elon Musk

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Tesla will always be pushing the envelope, so this new isn't really 
unexpected, if true:

http://electrek.co/2016/03/04/tesla-os-hacker-model-s-p100d/
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[EVDL] article: Faraday Future is granted a patent for a surprisingly small and powerful inverter

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http://electrek.co/2016/03/01/faraday-future-patent-inverter/
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[EVDL] article: Morgan’s EV3 is the electric car Nikola Tesla would’ve actually built

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3-wheeler, not very fast for a car that weighs a little over half a ton, 
I was expecting to see a sub 6 second 0-60, rather than 9:


http://www.slashgear.com/morgans-ev3-is-the-electric-car-nikola-tesla-wouldve-actually-built-01429665/
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[EVDL] News Release: Ontario Making Electric Vehicles More Affordable

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News release from the Government of Ontario, $10k to $14k rebates on EVs:

https://news.ontario.ca/opo/en/2016/02/ontario-making-electric-vehicles-more-affordable.html
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[EVDL] VW is claiming new EVs will use 48-volt systems

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Does anyone have any thoughts on VW using 48-volt systems in planned EVs?

Here's an article that claims that number 
(http://www.autoblog.com/2016/02/05/volkswagen-golf-eighth-generation-information/#slide-endcap), 
and I've seen others that repeat it.


This seems a very low voltage for a modern EV.

What kind of effects will this have on the design?
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Re: [EVDL] 66yrold e-scooterist death> doored, run-over & truck-dragged Ottawa.ca

[Paul Wujek via EV]

This happened in Ontario, Canada where there is a law in place that cars 
have to be at least a metre from bicyclists.


I also take this to mean that bicycles should always remain at least a 
metre from cars, parked or not.


If staying a metre away from cars puts my bicycle in the traffic lane 
that's fine with me and following cars will either have to give me room 
or stay behind and wait for me to pass parked vehicles. I've been doored 
before.


On 2016-01-17 10:31 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
Never, ever, bicycle in the "suicide lane" if you're going over about 
8-10 mph.  Tragic.

Peri

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Subject: [EVDL] 66yrold e-scooterist death> doored, run-over & 
truck-dragged Ottawa.ca





http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/scooter-rider-dies-after-being-doored-by-car-in-byward-market 


Scooter rider dies after being 'doored' by car in ByWard Market
January 13, 2016  Andrew Seymour

[image
http://wpmedia.ottawacitizen.com/2016/01/man-dies-riding-e-bike.jpeg
A man has died after he was hit while riding an E-Bike northbound on
Cumberland St. In the Byward Market Monday, Jan. 11, 2016
]

The death of a 66-year-old man on an electric scooter who was run 
over by a

truck after he was “doored” in the ByWard Market on Monday is a tragic
reminder about the dangers cyclists and those on e-bikes face, says an
Ottawa safe cycling group.

Ottawa police said the man was riding his scooter northbound on 
Cumberland
Street at about 4:30 p.m. when the driver of a Toyota that had just 
parked
along the curb swung open his door. The man on the e-bike collided 
with the

door and was then thrown off his scooter, where he landed in front of a
northbound pickup truck.

Witnesses reported that the man was dragged several metres before the 
truck

stopped. Firefighters had to lift the truck to free the man, who was
pronounced dead at the scene. A handicap sticker was visible on the 
back of

the scooter.

Police did not release the man’s name Tuesday.

“It is very important for drivers to be aware when they are opening 
their
doors to be looking for cyclists,” said Heather Shearer, a board 
member with
Citizens for Safe Cycling. “Also for drivers overtaking a cyclist — 
if the
space is tight, try to imagine this is a possibility and try to stay 
back

until it is safe to overtake.”

Shearer said drivers need to remember there could be someone on a 
bike next
to their car, even in winter. Winter cycling has become increasingly 
popular

and cyclists are on the road year round, she said.

Shearer said cyclists should give themselves at least a metre from 
parked

cars to help reduce the risk of a collision.

“For cyclists it can be intimidating to stay away from the doors and 
take

the space that you need, but your safety is more important than anyone’s
convenience,” said Shearer.

The e-bike rider is the second person to die after being “doored” in 
Ottawa

in the past five years.

Cyclist Danielle Nacu was killed in October 2011 after she was hit 
with a
car door while cycling on Queen Street. The 33-year-old was knocked 
off her

bike and into the path of an oncoming vehicle.

A new law that came into effect in September increased the fine for a 
driver

found guilty of dooring a cyclist to $365 and three demerit points.

No charges have been laid in Monday’s collision, although police were
continuing to investigate ...
[© 2016 Postmedia Network]
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(Cumberland St. runs through the Byward Market section of Ottawa)




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[EVDL] article: WaiveCar lets you rent an electric car, and it’s free for 2 hours

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If you live in a major city in California: 
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/waivecar-launch/

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Re: [EVDL] Improving Leaf economy & range.

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The only other thing I can think of would be add a front spoiler.

The underside is probably already smooth.

On 2015-12-23 06:10 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:

I had some thoughts on Improving the CD of a Leaf. Moon hubcaps & fender 
skirts.  I was thinking these two simple additions might help.  Any other ideas 
other than a tail cone.  Lawrence Rhodes
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[EVDL] article: Has Tesla Motors quietly improved its battery technology?

[Paul Wujek via EV]

Actually my bet is that Tesla will be continually improving its 
technologies, they probably won't announce each incremental improvement.


article:
http://evannex.com/blogs/news/71247237-has-tesla-motors-quietly-improved-its-battery-technology
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[EVDL] article: All-electric Porsche Mission E goes into production

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http://www.electricautosport.com/2015/12/all-electric-porsche-mission-e-goes-into-production/
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[EVDL] article: World’s Fastest Charging Electric Bus Debuts in China

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This is the first I've heard of super-capacitors being used as the prime 
power source for a production vehicle:


http://gas2.org/2015/08/05/worlds-fastest-charging-electric-bus-debuts-china/
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[EVDL] article: Harnessing 'Spooky Action at a Distance' To Make a Better Battery

[Paul Wujek via EV]

This article postulates that elements of a cell can be charged using 
quantum entanglement (if you don't know what that means please read: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement).



http://motherboard.vice.com/en_uk/read/theorized-quantacell-quantum-batteries-may-offer-super-fast-charging


According to the article one cell could be used to charge essentially 
the whole pack in parallel.



Some musings about the implications if it becomes possible to make 
batteries this way:


 The neat thing about entanglement is that the entangled particles 
can be *any* distance from each other.


 The cells of the entangled battery could be separated by any distance.


 If we can charge through entanglement then if follows that we can 
discharge the same way.



 You could take one cell in the car and leave the rest at home 
charging at the same time the car is travelling.



 The cells that aren't in the car could stay at the factory and 
just get charged off the grid, as a service.




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[EVDL] video:Tesla motor hacked!

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This guy has managed to reverse-engineer a Tesla motor and motor 
controller:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMQjcukphpA
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[EVDL] article: Tomorrow an electric plane will fly the English Channel for the first time

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http://arstechnica.com/cars/2015/07/tomorrow-the-first-electric-plane-will-fly-across-the-english-channel/
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[EVDL] article: BMW to only produce electric vehicles within 10 years

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http://www.trueactivist.com/bmw-to-only-produce-electric-vehicles-within-10-years/
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[EVDL] Altieva hiring

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Atieva (founded by Tesla alum) going on a massive hiring spree; looking 
to hire many hardware engineers, software engineers, mechanical 
engineers, IT support, etc.


http://atieva.com/

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[EVDL] article: [Photos] World's First Electrical Car Ferry in Operation

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http://www.maritime-executive.com/article/worlds-first-electrical-car-ferry-in-operation
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[EVDL] article: Global Electric Car Market Reached 740, 000 Units In 2014

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http://sustainnovate.ae/en/innovators-blog/detail/global-electric-car-market-reached-74-units-in-2014
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[EVDL] article: World’s first 1 megawatt all-electric race car to compete at Pikes Peak

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It's April 1, so maybe this is true:

http://www.electricautosport.com/2015/04/worlds-first-1-megawatt-all-electric-race-car-to-compete-at-pikes-peak/
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[EVDL] article: 214 hp E-Motorcycle built from scratch!

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http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php/214-hp-e-motorcycle-built-scratch-143498.html
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[EVDL] article: Porsche Pajun Due in 2018/19 as a pure electric car

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http://www.electric-vehiclenews.com/2015/01/porsche-pajun-due-in-201819-as-pure.html
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[EVDL] video: Electric Motorcycle Breaks Traction and Pulls 192mph on the Dyno

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see: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f3d_1408492127

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Re: [EVDL] Is your EV doing enough?

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On 14-08-16 12:50 AM, Mike Scott via EV wrote:

I just got the 2014 though, with the tiny
little badge...
If you really want the bigger badge you can probably go to the dealer 
and order one.

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[EVDL] site: eSamba project

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The eSamba project site has videos that detail the currently ongoing 
conversion of a VW Microbus:


http://www.electricsamba.com/category/esamba-episodes/

The latest episode shows the building of a pack module using small cells.
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[EVDL] article: Charging electric cars efficiently inductive

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An interesting approach to inductive charging:
http://phys.org/news/2014-07-electric-cars-efficiently-inductive.html
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[EVDL] article: The rise of electric cars in the US, in 6 charts

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http://www.vox.com/2014/7/28/5944065/electric-cars-plug-in-vehicles-rising-sales-US
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[EVDL] article: The Oatmeal - What It's Like to Own a Tesla Model-S

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part 1: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/tesla_model_s
part2: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/tesla_model_s2
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[EVDL] article: Holy s##t! – the amazing Zero SR electric motorcycle blows our minds

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A review of the most recent Zero:

http://www.gizmag.com/zero-sr-2014-electric-motorcycle-review-test-ride/32015/

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[EVDL] article: Yamaha brings high-voltage electric motorcycles to the masses with the PES1 and PED1

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New bikes from Yamaha:

http://www.stuff.tv/yamaha/yamaha-brings-high-voltage-electric-motorcycles-masses-pes1-and-ped1/news

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