[EVDL] EVLN: orangeev.com e-truck maker revs up

2014-10-07 Thread brucedp5 via EV


http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article2363510.html
Electric truck maker in Riverside revs up
By STEVE EVERLY  09/30/2014

[image  
http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/26mmz9/picture2363509/alternates/FREE_768/OrangeEV%20al%20091814%200123f.jpg
Mike Saxton (from left), Wayne Mathisen and Kurt Neutgens, all with Orange
EV, conferred near one of their electric trucks at the company’s
headquarters in Riverside. Orange’s trucks are former diesel models
retrofitted with electric motors.ALLISON LONG/The Kansas City Star
]

Kurt Neutgens worked 17 years at Ford Motor Co., including time as
engineering manager for Ford’s F-150 pickup truck, but his dream was to
someday develop an electric vehicle.

So when Ford offered buyouts in 2006, he jumped at the opportunity. He went
on to create in his garage an electric-powered Mustang, only to discover
that the car was too expensive to make a business out of it.

But now he believes things have fallen into place. Recently standing outside
the offices of Orange EV in Riverside, a company he co-founded, Neutgens
greeted potential customers who wanted to test drive the company’s electric
truck.

And he’s more convinced than ever that electric vehicles have a big future.

“To me it’s the end game when it comes to transportation,” said Neutgens,
who is president and chief technology officer of the company.

Kansas City, of course, has a much higher-profile electric truck maker,
Smith Electric Vehicles. But Neutgens’ company means Smith isn’t the only
game in town.

Smith Electric got more than $30 million in federal grants and plenty of
publicity before it suspended production late last year. Its future is
unclear as it seeks more funds.

Orange EV has been operating more quietly since starting in 2012. It didn’t
tap federal grants and moved carefully to build a prototype and test it.
Now, it’s seeking buyers.

Its first product is an electric terminal truck, built to pull loads of
freight around places such as railroad yards and distribution centers.
Orange EV completely refurbishes older terminal trucks, including a coat of
new paint. The diesel engines are replaced with the motors, batteries and
other components needed to make the vehicles electric-powered.

“Essentially, we’re a manufacturer of industrial strength vehicles,” said
Mike Saxton, Orange EV’s chief commercial officer.

The vehicle has been getting some good reviews. A two-week demonstration at
the BNSF intermodal freight facility in Gardner had the truck pulling
80,000-pound loads with enough power for 10 or more hours of work without a
recharge.

“We needed to see if Orange EV’s all-electric terminal truck could do the
job and get through a shift on a single charge,” said Ron Teague, a senior
vice president at ITS Technologies and Logistics, which runs the facility.
“They’ve convinced our team.”

The next hurdle for Orange EV is getting orders. The company has been in
talks with ITS and other potential customers. It’s also holding events for
test drives in Riverside.

It can be a tough sell. Fleet managers often flinch at the higher up-front
price for an electric truck, even if fuel savings and less maintenance make
the trucks a good bet over the long term. They’re also pretty cautious when
considering something new.

A good market for terminal trucks is the Port of Los Angeles, which has
about 4,000 trucks. About a quarter of them are alternative-fuel, but they
run on natural gas. The rest are diesel-fueled, although with
cleaner-burning engines than were once available.

A few electric trucks have been used there in a trial, and they are viewed
as having a lot of potential. But no decision has been made on whether to
make a larger deployment.

“They have made great strides in six to seven years,” said Phillip Sanfield,
a spokesman for the port.

But Orange EV believes the time is right, especially in locations such as
distribution centers and rail yards.

Wayne Mathisen has been a manager at Sprint, Embarq and CenturyLink in jobs
ranging from financial management to leading a team that oversaw a fleet of
10,000 vehicles. He studied the prospects for Orange EV and decided to be a
co-founder. He’s now the company’s CEO.

“I fell in love with the plan,” he said.

Mathisen said eventually the company could could build new and different
types of trucks. But for now the focus is on refurbished terminal trucks,
which can make a convincing economic case. Terminal trucks are used
intensively, so the fuel savings mount more quickly. He declined to disclose
the truck’s purchase price but said fuel savings along with the lower
maintenance costs provide a payback of four to six years.

The payback is even lower if the purchaser takes advantage of government
incentives that will reduce the price of the truck. Those incentives vary
across the country. Chicago has especially good incentives that could bring
an Orange EV down to the price of a diesel truck.

“We’re optimistic we’ll get our first customer this 

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: orangeev.com e-truck maker revs up

2014-10-07 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Oct 7, 2014, at 3:04 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:

 Kurt Neutgens worked 17 years at Ford Motor Co., including time as
 engineering manager for Ford’s F-150 pickup truck, but his dream was to
 someday develop an electric vehicle.
 
 So when Ford offered buyouts in 2006, he jumped at the opportunity. He went
 on to create in his garage an electric-powered Mustang, only to discover
 that the car was too expensive to make a business out of it.
 
 But now he believes things have fallen into place. Recently standing outside
 the offices of Orange EV in Riverside, a company he co-founded, Neutgens
 greeted potential customers who wanted to test drive the company’s electric
 truck.

Two things jump out at me.

First, I'm thoroughly sold that right now is the time for large heavy-duty 
fleets to switch to electric. They're the ones with the long-term budgeting; 
municipalities, for example, pick bus models by building spreadsheets with 
five-, ten-, and twenty-year total-lifecycle costs. Something that costs twice 
as much to acquire but costs half as much over five years is going to win out 
unless it's actually unable to do the job.

And big vehicles are going to need lots of big batteries, which will do 
absolute wonders for driving the whole economy of scale thing. They're still 
going to be looking for the best energy-to-everything-else ratios; shaving 1000 
pounds off a pack for a ten-ton vehicle is going to be as important as shaving 
100 pounds off a one-ton vehicle, and same with volume and price and anything 
else. The vehicles are just going to have ten times as many batteries -- which, 
in turn, means that every single big vehicle purchase is going to create as 
much demand from the battery manufacturers as ten econoboxes. An entire fleet 
of 100 big vehicles is as significant, therefore, as a thousand econoboxes -- 
quite the economic force multiplier!

The other thing that struck me was that offhand remark about an 
electric-powered Mustang. The day that the first Mustang EV rolls off the 
Detroit (or wherever) assembly line is the day that we can be certain that 
there is no more future in petroleum-powered passenger vehicles save as 
novelties. Anybody want to take any bets on when that'll happen? I'm thinking 
probably a decade at least, but probably not much more than that.

Cheers,

b
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