[ref http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Why-not-a-lithium-12v-battery-for-my-Leaf-or-other-EV-tp4696525.html Lawrence sez' https://www.amazon.com/FirePower-Featherweight-Lithium-Battery-HJTZ5S-FP-IL/dp/B00DX894B2 might be a replacement 12V battery
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Re-more-Lawrence-Leaf-lithium-12v-aux-battery-tp4696543.html ] More thoughts: % Lawrence might be satisfied with this thread at this point, but this is an EV question that will come up again and again. Explore links I found on 51r batteries that fit in a 2013 Leaf, below % https://mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?t=27429 Purchasing a 12V battery? Advice... https://goo.gl/maps/JMx8tKRAmEu8NcD38 map auto battery sources near Lawrence in SF-CA https://www.pepboys.com/champion-auto-battery-group-size-51r/product/1767337 $98+ champion 51r wet @pepboys Height (in.) 8.75 Cranking Amps @ 32F 625 Terminal Type A Width (in.) 5.06 Reserve Capacity (minutes) 85 Length (in.) 9.38 Group Size 51R Voltage 12 BCI # 51R Weight (lbs) 28 Height (mm) 222 Length (mm) 238 Right Or Left Hand Positive Left Cold Cranking Amps (CCA) @ 0F 500 Width (mm) 128 Wet or Dry Wet https://www.autozone.com/batteries-starting-and-charging/battery/nissandatsun/leaf 1575 S VAN NESS AVE - SAN FRANCISCO, CA 94110 https://www.autozone.com/batteries-starting-and-charging/battery/duralast-battery-51r-dl-group-size-51r-425-cca/115786_175927_25698 $140+ duralast-battery-51r-dl wet @autozone Part Number: 51R-DL Weight: 26.81lbs Warranty: 2 YEAR Notes: Alternate Fit *** 425 Cold cranking amps (530 cranking amps) ***. 75 reserve minutes. Warranty consists of 2 years free replacement. AGM RECOMMENDED: this vehicle is identified as having high electrical loads by a leading researcher. % Even autozone sez (above) a higher Ah agm is a better fit than a cheapo/short-lived wet-cell 51r % https://www.autozone.com/batteries-starting-and-charging/battery/optima-battery-d51r-group-size-51-450-cca/467602_0_0 $238+ optima agm @autozone Part Number: D51R Weight: 26.01lbs Warranty: 3 YEAR Notes: Alternate Fit *** 450 Cold cranking amps (575 cranking amps) ***. 66 reserve minutes. Warranty consist of 3 years free replacement. Yellow Top (Deep Cycle). AGM RECOMMENDED: this vehicle is identified as having high electrical loads by a leading researcher. https://www.oreillyauto.com/shop/b/battery-accessories-16452/battery---automotive-16864/battery---best-fit-16245/ec27e4e51018?sort=price+asc 4540 South Mission St San Francisco, CA 94112 (415) 586-8262 https://www.oreillyauto.com/shop/b/battery-accessories-16452/battery---automotive-16864/31624da3221a/2013/nissan/leaf https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/b/premium-4997/battery-accessories-16452/battery---automotive-16864/battery---best-fit-16245/aa237490c00e/super-start-premium-group-size-51r-battery/51rprmj/4742511/2013/nissan/leaf $140+ 51r wet @oreillyauto Warranty: 2 Year LIMITED WARRANTY https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/b/platinum-5003/battery-accessories-16452/battery---automotive-16864/battery---best-fit-16245/ec27e4e51018/super-start-platinum-group-size-51r-top-post-battery/51rplt/5880657/2013/nissan/leaf $200+ 51r agm @oreillyauto Store Pickup CarQuest - 3594 510-783-4544 24005 Clawiter Road Hayward, CA - 94545 https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/autocraft-silver-battery-group-size-51r-410-cca-51r-1/2040107-P?navigationPath=L1*14920%7CL2*15000%7CL3*15597%7CL4*13646 $140+ autocraft wet 51R https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/autocraft-platinum-agm-battery-group-size-51r-435-cca-51r-agm/11920918-P?navigationPath=L1*14920%7CL2*15000%7CL3*15597%7CL4*13646 $200+ autocraft agm Amp Hour: 41.0 AH https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/optima-yellow-top-deep-cycle-battery-group-size-51r-450-cca-d51r/16940001-P?navigationPath=L1*14920%7CL2*15000%7CL3*15597%7CL4*13646 $240+ optima-yellow-top-deep-cycle 51R Jim Ramos @Amercan Battery (510) 259-1150 3496 Arden Rd, Hayward, CA 94545 (call &ask for a 12V deep cycle w/ 51r dimensions & posts) % imo, there is no off-the-shelf, cost effective li-ion battery that will fit, have a high enough Ah capacity, and is affordable. Nissan engineers knew this, so they designed using a cheap PbSO4 starter battery that will eventually fail, making profit$ for stealerships. Reading through the leaf forum threads on this topic, there are choices: -go cheap with another wet cell battery, that will fail and need replacing in a few years, with plenty of acid spray corroding near the battery. Advantages: cheap & easy 51r drop in replacement, +auto-tech will accept this type of 12V aux battery. -pay more for a higher-Ah sealed agm, that will last longer before needing replacement. Advantages: not-as-cheap 51r drop in replacement, with a longer life, +auto-tech will accept this type of 12V aux battery. -pay way-too-much for a higher-Ah li-ion battery that is not a drop-in, that makes you install adapters for the cables to reach and connect to the non-automotive lug battery terminals (the auto tech will not like the way it looks: like its a kludge-nightmare). Bottom-line: If I were in Lawrence situation, I'd either go for a 51r drop-in agm battery, or the diehard sealed wet-cell below: https://www.sears.com/diehard-automotive-battery-group-size-51r-price/p-02850352000P?unitNo=0006771&sellerId=SEARS&prdNo=5&blockNo=5&blockType=G5 $140+ 51R sealed @ Sears 662 w winton ave hayward, ca 94545 DieHard Automotive Battery 50352 - Group Size EP-51R I have had very good cost effective use using DieHard batteries, they cost more, but they last longer, &more reliable. I used group 24 DieHard as house batteries, and I have a group 27 DieHard in the ice I'm driving in TX. 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