Re: [EVDL] Momentary Pulse Switch

2021-10-07 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
> reed switch with a magnet on the fuel door would do the trick.
> 
> Phil

That's a great idea.  Setup the reed so the magnet closes it when the door is 
1/2 way open.  That way you get the 'pulse' without any other components and 
the reed isn't spending large amounts of time in the magnetic field.  Long term 
exposure to magnetic fields can magnetize reed switches and they will get stuck 
closed.
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Re: [EVDL] Momentary Pulse Switch

2021-10-05 Thread Phil Hochstetler via EV
That would be one option.  Another option is for the magnet to hold the
reed switch closed when the door is closed.
Thus your application could turn on the screen if the signal is interrupted
and turn off the screen if the circuit is complete.
If you are running the signal to an input pin, you just need a current
limit resistor and two wires and a 5v source.

Phil

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 5:08 PM Cor van de Water via EV 
wrote:

> Phil,
> You mean when the magnet is mounted in a way that is passes by the
> reed relay while opening/closing the fuel door, so that with the door
> open and closed, the reed relay does not make contact, only while
> opening/closing when the magnet passes by the relay?
> Cor.
>
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 5:02 PM Phil Hochstetler via EV
>  wrote:
> >
> > reed switch with a magnet on the fuel door would do the trick.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 2:25 PM Bill Dennis via EV 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks.  The application is not critical, just turning on a screen.
> So I'd
> > > like to stick with a simple, non-powered switch.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Peri Hartman
> via
> > > EV
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 3:16 PM
> > > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> > > Cc: Peri Hartman
> > > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Momentary Pulse Switch
> > >
> > > That sounds like a fail prone solution. If you get noise or somehow
> lose
> > > a pulse, you'll be out of synch. Wouldn't it be better to simply poll
> > > the sensor once in a while ? Or have both: a pulse when the state
> > > changes and a method to poll to confirm the state ?
> > >
> > > Peri
> > >
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> > > -- Original Message --
> > > From: "Bill Dennis via EV" 
> > > To: "'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'" 
> > > Cc: "Bill Dennis" 
> > > Sent: 05-Oct-21 13:16:07
> > > Subject: [EVDL] Momentary Pulse Switch
> > >
> > > >Can someone recommend a small, momentary pulse switch for 5 volts?
> When
> > > the car's fuel door is opened, I want a the switch to close to send a
> quick
> > > pulse, then turn off.  Same when the fuel door is closed.  The switch
> > > doesn't have to handle anything more than milliamps.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >Bill Dennis
> > > >
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Re: [EVDL] Momentary Pulse Switch

2021-10-05 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Phil,
You mean when the magnet is mounted in a way that is passes by the
reed relay while opening/closing the fuel door, so that with the door
open and closed, the reed relay does not make contact, only while
opening/closing when the magnet passes by the relay?
Cor.

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 5:02 PM Phil Hochstetler via EV
 wrote:
>
> reed switch with a magnet on the fuel door would do the trick.
>
> Phil
>
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 2:25 PM Bill Dennis via EV  wrote:
>
> > Thanks.  The application is not critical, just turning on a screen.  So I'd
> > like to stick with a simple, non-powered switch.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Peri Hartman via
> > EV
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 3:16 PM
> > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> > Cc: Peri Hartman
> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Momentary Pulse Switch
> >
> > That sounds like a fail prone solution. If you get noise or somehow lose
> > a pulse, you'll be out of synch. Wouldn't it be better to simply poll
> > the sensor once in a while ? Or have both: a pulse when the state
> > changes and a method to poll to confirm the state ?
> >
> > Peri
> >
> > << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >>
> >
> > -- Original Message --
> > From: "Bill Dennis via EV" 
> > To: "'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'" 
> > Cc: "Bill Dennis" 
> > Sent: 05-Oct-21 13:16:07
> > Subject: [EVDL] Momentary Pulse Switch
> >
> > >Can someone recommend a small, momentary pulse switch for 5 volts?  When
> > the car's fuel door is opened, I want a the switch to close to send a quick
> > pulse, then turn off.  Same when the fuel door is closed.  The switch
> > doesn't have to handle anything more than milliamps.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Bill Dennis
> > >
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Re: [EVDL] Momentary Pulse Switch

2021-10-05 Thread Phil Hochstetler via EV
reed switch with a magnet on the fuel door would do the trick.

Phil

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 2:25 PM Bill Dennis via EV  wrote:

> Thanks.  The application is not critical, just turning on a screen.  So I'd
> like to stick with a simple, non-powered switch.
>
> Bill
>
> -Original Message-
> From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Peri Hartman via
> EV
> Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 3:16 PM
> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
> Cc: Peri Hartman
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Momentary Pulse Switch
>
> That sounds like a fail prone solution. If you get noise or somehow lose
> a pulse, you'll be out of synch. Wouldn't it be better to simply poll
> the sensor once in a while ? Or have both: a pulse when the state
> changes and a method to poll to confirm the state ?
>
> Peri
>
> << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Bill Dennis via EV" 
> To: "'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'" 
> Cc: "Bill Dennis" 
> Sent: 05-Oct-21 13:16:07
> Subject: [EVDL] Momentary Pulse Switch
>
> >Can someone recommend a small, momentary pulse switch for 5 volts?  When
> the car's fuel door is opened, I want a the switch to close to send a quick
> pulse, then turn off.  Same when the fuel door is closed.  The switch
> doesn't have to handle anything more than milliamps.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Bill Dennis
> >
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Re: [EVDL] Momentary Pulse Switch

2021-10-05 Thread Bill Dennis via EV
Thanks.  The application is not critical, just turning on a screen.  So I'd
like to stick with a simple, non-powered switch.

Bill

-Original Message-
From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Peri Hartman via EV
Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 3:16 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Cc: Peri Hartman
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Momentary Pulse Switch

That sounds like a fail prone solution. If you get noise or somehow lose 
a pulse, you'll be out of synch. Wouldn't it be better to simply poll 
the sensor once in a while ? Or have both: a pulse when the state 
changes and a method to poll to confirm the state ?

Peri

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-- Original Message --
From: "Bill Dennis via EV" 
To: "'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'" 
Cc: "Bill Dennis" 
Sent: 05-Oct-21 13:16:07
Subject: [EVDL] Momentary Pulse Switch

>Can someone recommend a small, momentary pulse switch for 5 volts?  When
the car's fuel door is opened, I want a the switch to close to send a quick
pulse, then turn off.  Same when the fuel door is closed.  The switch
doesn't have to handle anything more than milliamps.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Bill Dennis
>
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Re: [EVDL] Momentary Pulse Switch

2021-10-05 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
That sounds like a fail prone solution. If you get noise or somehow lose 
a pulse, you'll be out of synch. Wouldn't it be better to simply poll 
the sensor once in a while ? Or have both: a pulse when the state 
changes and a method to poll to confirm the state ?


Peri

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-- Original Message --
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To: "'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'" 
Cc: "Bill Dennis" 
Sent: 05-Oct-21 13:16:07
Subject: [EVDL] Momentary Pulse Switch


Can someone recommend a small, momentary pulse switch for 5 volts?  When the 
car's fuel door is opened, I want a the switch to close to send a quick pulse, 
then turn off.  Same when the fuel door is closed.  The switch doesn't have to 
handle anything more than milliamps.

Thanks,

Bill Dennis

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[EVDL] Momentary Pulse Switch

2021-10-05 Thread Bill Dennis via EV
Can someone recommend a small, momentary pulse switch for 5 volts?  When the 
car's fuel door is opened, I want a the switch to close to send a quick pulse, 
then turn off.  Same when the fuel door is closed.  The switch doesn't have to 
handle anything more than milliamps.

Thanks,

Bill Dennis

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