Re: [EVDL] Police.cn warn of dangers long scarves e-mopeds don't mix

2014-12-11 Thread Evan Tuer via EV
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 5:14 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV 
ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:


 At least the headline in this news piece was Long scarves pose health
 risks
 in China, not Electric vehicles pose health risks in China.  But the
 headline writer is nevertheless clue-challenged; it really should have been
 Long scarves around moving machinery pose health risks. (And not just in
 China.  Duh.)


Not just in China, but certainly more likely to happen in China than in the
West!
There you have millions using bicycles and e-bikes as their primary
transport, all year round.  And wearing normal outdoor clothes, not bike
gear, because you don't tend to get hot using an electric bike for
commuting...
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[EVDL] Police.cn warn of dangers long scarves e-mopeds don't mix

2014-12-10 Thread brucedp5 via EV


http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=2014120612cid=1103
Long scarves pose health risks in China
2014-12-06

[image] (girl torso in hospital bed)
A ten-year-old girl was paralyzed when her long scarf got stuck in the wheel
of an electric moped. (Internet photo)

Several cases of people being seriously injured after their long scarves got
stuck in the wheels of their electric mopeds have been reported across
China, reports our Chinese-language sister paper Want Daily.

A ten-year-old girl was paralyzed after falling off an electric moped
because her long scarf was entangled in the vehicle's wheel in Handan City,
Hebei province. She could not move and had difficulty breathing after the
fall. Around 15 hours later, she was hospitalized and later transferred to
larger hospital for surgery. There, she was told she had broke her spine and
damaged her muscles. Despite the surgeries, the girl has to rely on machine
to breath now.

A woman in Hangzhou, Zhejiang province, went into a coma after her scarf got
struck in the wheel of her electric moped, and on Nov. 8, a 7-year-old girl
was pulled off of a moped her mother was driving for a similar reason. The
girl was lucky though and only suffered from abrasions to her head.

A doctor in Shijiazhuang City, Hebei province said such accidents occur
every year as scarves can easily get stuck to various places such as the
elevator and bus doors as well as moped wheels. Police have warned people
against the dangers of long scarves.
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Re: [EVDL] Police.cn warn of dangers long scarves e-mopeds don't mix

2014-12-10 Thread Peter Gabrielsson via EV
No capes!

Seriously though, what does this have to do with electrics specifically.
Doesn't it apply to all mopeds, motorcycles and bikes?

On Wednesday, December 10, 2014, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:




 http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=2014120612cid=1103
 Long scarves pose health risks in China
 2014-12-06

 [image] (girl torso in hospital bed)
 A ten-year-old girl was paralyzed when her long scarf got stuck in the
 wheel
 of an electric moped. (Internet photo)

 Several cases of people being seriously injured after their long scarves
 got
 stuck in the wheels of their electric mopeds have been reported across
 China, reports our Chinese-language sister paper Want Daily.

 A ten-year-old girl was paralyzed after falling off an electric moped
 because her long scarf was entangled in the vehicle's wheel in Handan City,
 Hebei province. She could not move and had difficulty breathing after the
 fall. Around 15 hours later, she was hospitalized and later transferred to
 larger hospital for surgery. There, she was told she had broke her spine
 and
 damaged her muscles. Despite the surgeries, the girl has to rely on machine
 to breath now.

 A woman in Hangzhou, Zhejiang province, went into a coma after her scarf
 got
 struck in the wheel of her electric moped, and on Nov. 8, a 7-year-old girl
 was pulled off of a moped her mother was driving for a similar reason. The
 girl was lucky though and only suffered from abrasions to her head.

 A doctor in Shijiazhuang City, Hebei province said such accidents occur
 every year as scarves can easily get stuck to various places such as the
 elevator and bus doors as well as moped wheels. Police have warned people
 against the dangers of long scarves.
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Re: [EVDL] Police.cn warn of dangers long scarves e-mopeds don't mix

2014-12-10 Thread Ben Goren via EV
On Dec 10, 2014, at 5:00 AM, Peter Gabrielsson via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:

 No capes!
 
 Seriously though, what does this have to do with electrics specifically.
 Doesn't it apply to all mopeds, motorcycles and bikes?

I've heard of more than one person with long hair getting scalped (or worse) by 
working on an ICE car with its engine running and the hair getting caught in 
one of the belts. At least that particular risk is basically gone with EVs.

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Re: [EVDL] Police.cn warn of dangers long scarves e-mopeds don't mix

2014-12-10 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 10 Dec 2014 at 7:24, Ben Goren via EV wrote:

 I've heard of more than one person with long hair getting scalped (or worse)
 by working on an ICE car with its engine running and the hair getting caught
 in one of the belts. At least that particular risk is basically gone with EVs.

It's probably absent with most factory EVs, but conversions are another 
story.  

Lots of conversions still use belts.  Some, like Wayne's pickups, retain the 
alternator.  Others belt-drive a power steering pump or aircon compressor 
either with the main drive motor or, more commonly, with a smaller auxiliary 
motor.  I think some converters even use a belt-driven vacuum pump for power 
brakes.

Using any kind of moving-parts machinery with loose clothing or hair is just 
not a good idea.

At least the headline in this news piece was Long scarves pose health risks 
in China, not Electric vehicles pose health risks in China.  But the 
headline writer is nevertheless clue-challenged; it really should have been 
Long scarves around moving machinery pose health risks. (And not just in 
China.  Duh.)

I agree that the piece was marginally topical for the EVDL.  However, it did 
give us the chance to discuss this worthwhile benefit for purpose built EVs 
over ICEVs and conversions - the elimination of belts, and their attendant 
wear and need for maintenance.  (To be fair though, I'm pretty sure that 
Toyota Prius ICEVs have been beltless for at least one generation now.)

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
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