RE: [Evangelism] Plone code swarm - 275 code contributors - morethan Drupal and Joomla combined
Martin Aspeli’s 2006 dissertation is a great history of Plone up to, obviously, ~2006. :jon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerry Kirk Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:43 AM To: Jon Stahl Cc: Graham Perrin; evangelism@lists.plone.org Subject: Re: [Evangelism] Plone code swarm - 275 code contributors - morethan Drupal and Joomla combined Do we have other community stats we can use, or history of the project from a community perspective? I want to write a post called Plone: Of the People, By the People, For the People. - Gerry 2008/10/29 Jon Stahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My conclusion from all of this is not to rely too much on Ohloh's stats; they are often quite inaccurate. :jon > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:evangelism- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Perrin > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:48 AM > To: evangelism@lists.plone.org > Subject: Re: [Evangelism] Plone code swarm - 275 code contributors - morethan > Drupal and Joomla combined > > > > Jon Stahl wrote: > > I think it's good to emphasize how open and collaborative the community > > is, but wise to avoid direct comparisons with competitors, because it is a > > bit of "apples and oranges" due to different community management > > structures. > > +1 to Jon's comments (I drafted this message last night …) > > > Gerry Kirk-3 wrote: > > Only 22 Drupal contributors? > > <http://www.ohloh.net/projects/drupal/factoids/865231> suggests: > > > Over the past twelve months, only 3 developers contributed new code > > and > > > Over the entire history of the project, 10 developers have contributed > > <http://www.ohloh.net/projects/drupal/contributors> counts 22. > > At <http://www.ohloh.net/projects/drupal/reviews> a reviewer comments: > > > stats are wrong, because many developers contribute to Drupal, but only a > > few developers have necessary rights to commit code into Drupal core > > repositories. This ensures a very high quality in Drupal's core code base. > > The 10 ≠ 22 discrepancy remains unexplained. > > > > For Plone at <http://www.ohloh.net/projects/plone/reviews> we might add a > comparable review, with reference to > <http://plone.org/documentation/manual/plone-developer- > reference/overview/release-process> > and/or simply highlight: > > * Release Manager > ― one elected individual > > * Framework team > ― currently five individuals > ― <http://plone.org/about/team/FrameworkTeam>. > > > > Drupal gains a community rating of 4.3/5.0 > based on 111 user ratings. 111/280 = ratings from ~39% of Drupal users at > Ohloh. > > Plone gains a community rating of 4.3/5.0 > based on 61 user ratings. 61/107 = ratings from ~57% of Plone users at > Ohloh. > > > > <http://www.ohloh.net/projects/plone/factoids/740563> notes: > > > Over the last twelve months, Plone has seen a substantial decline in > > development activity … Ohloh makes this determination by comparing total > > number of commits made by all developers during the most recent twelve > > months with the same figure for the twelve months before that. The number > > of developers and total lines of code are not considered. > > The April/May 2006 burst is remarkable in the videos mentioned at > <http://n2.nabble.com/Plone-Code-Swarm-tp1374267p1374267.html> but that's > more than 24 months ago so the perceived decline is probably attributable to > other factors. > > Regards > Graham > -- > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Plone-code-swarm---275- > code-contributors---more-than-Drupal-and-Joomla-combined- > tp1387483p1392787.html > Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- blog: http://gerrykirk.net daily musings at http://twitter.com/gerrykirk ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Plone code swarm - 275 code contributors - morethan Drupal and Joomla combined
Gerry Kirk wrote: Do we have other community stats we can use, or history of the project from a community perspective? I want to write a post called Plone: Of the People, By the People, For the People. - Gerry On October 6th, plone.org control panel claimed - 201 developers that have write access to the Plone foundation repository (the one covered by the contributor agreement) - 196 developers that have write access to the Archetypes repository (some people have access to first OR second repositories iow they are not the same 200 people) and - 845 developers that have write access to the collective repository Those are the total numbers since we moved to plone.org svn. Iow some of those people are inactive today. -- Godefroid Chapelle (aka __gotcha) http://bubblenet.be ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Plone code swarm - 275 code contributors - morethan Drupal and Joomla combined
Do we have other community stats we can use, or history of the project from a community perspective? I want to write a post called Plone: Of the People, By the People, For the People. - Gerry 2008/10/29 Jon Stahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > My conclusion from all of this is not to rely too much on Ohloh's stats; > they are often quite inaccurate. > > :jon > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:evangelism- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Perrin > > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:48 AM > > To: evangelism@lists.plone.org > > Subject: Re: [Evangelism] Plone code swarm - 275 code contributors - > morethan > > Drupal and Joomla combined > > > > > > > > Jon Stahl wrote: > > > I think it's good to emphasize how open and collaborative the community > > > is, but wise to avoid direct comparisons with competitors, because it > is a > > > bit of "apples and oranges" due to different community management > > > structures. > > > > +1 to Jon's comments (I drafted this message last night …) > > > > > > Gerry Kirk-3 wrote: > > > Only 22 Drupal contributors? > > > > <http://www.ohloh.net/projects/drupal/factoids/865231> suggests: > > > > > Over the past twelve months, only 3 developers contributed new code > > > > and > > > > > Over the entire history of the project, 10 developers have contributed > > > > <http://www.ohloh.net/projects/drupal/contributors> counts 22. > > > > At <http://www.ohloh.net/projects/drupal/reviews> a reviewer comments: > > > > > stats are wrong, because many developers contribute to Drupal, but only > a > > > few developers have necessary rights to commit code into Drupal core > > > repositories. This ensures a very high quality in Drupal's core code > base. > > > > The 10 ≠ 22 discrepancy remains unexplained. > > > > > > > > For Plone at <http://www.ohloh.net/projects/plone/reviews> we might add > a > > comparable review, with reference to > > <http://plone.org/documentation/manual/plone-developer- > > reference/overview/release-process> > > and/or simply highlight: > > > > * Release Manager > > ― one elected individual > > > > * Framework team > > ― currently five individuals > > ― <http://plone.org/about/team/FrameworkTeam>. > > > > > > > > Drupal gains a community rating of 4.3/5.0 > > based on 111 user ratings. 111/280 = ratings from ~39% of Drupal users at > > Ohloh. > > > > Plone gains a community rating of 4.3/5.0 > > based on 61 user ratings. 61/107 = ratings from ~57% of Plone users at > > Ohloh. > > > > > > > > <http://www.ohloh.net/projects/plone/factoids/740563> notes: > > > > > Over the last twelve months, Plone has seen a substantial decline in > > > development activity … Ohloh makes this determination by comparing > total > > > number of commits made by all developers during the most recent twelve > > > months with the same figure for the twelve months before that. The > number > > > of developers and total lines of code are not considered. > > > > The April/May 2006 burst is remarkable in the videos mentioned at > > <http://n2.nabble.com/Plone-Code-Swarm-tp1374267p1374267.html> but > that's > > more than 24 months ago so the perceived decline is probably attributable > to > > other factors. > > > > Regards > > Graham > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Plone-code-swarm---275- > > code-contributors---more-than-Drupal-and-Joomla-combined- > > tp1387483p1392787.html > > Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > ___ > > Evangelism mailing list > > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism > > -- blog: http://gerrykirk.net daily musings at http://twitter.com/gerrykirk ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
RE: [Evangelism] Plone code swarm - 275 code contributors - morethan Drupal and Joomla combined
My conclusion from all of this is not to rely too much on Ohloh's stats; they are often quite inaccurate. :jon > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:evangelism- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Perrin > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:48 AM > To: evangelism@lists.plone.org > Subject: Re: [Evangelism] Plone code swarm - 275 code contributors - morethan > Drupal and Joomla combined > > > > Jon Stahl wrote: > > I think it's good to emphasize how open and collaborative the community > > is, but wise to avoid direct comparisons with competitors, because it is a > > bit of "apples and oranges" due to different community management > > structures. > > +1 to Jon's comments (I drafted this message last night …) > > > Gerry Kirk-3 wrote: > > Only 22 Drupal contributors? > > <http://www.ohloh.net/projects/drupal/factoids/865231> suggests: > > > Over the past twelve months, only 3 developers contributed new code > > and > > > Over the entire history of the project, 10 developers have contributed > > <http://www.ohloh.net/projects/drupal/contributors> counts 22. > > At <http://www.ohloh.net/projects/drupal/reviews> a reviewer comments: > > > stats are wrong, because many developers contribute to Drupal, but only a > > few developers have necessary rights to commit code into Drupal core > > repositories. This ensures a very high quality in Drupal's core code base. > > The 10 ≠ 22 discrepancy remains unexplained. > > > > For Plone at <http://www.ohloh.net/projects/plone/reviews> we might add a > comparable review, with reference to > <http://plone.org/documentation/manual/plone-developer- > reference/overview/release-process> > and/or simply highlight: > > * Release Manager > — one elected individual > > * Framework team > — currently five individuals > — <http://plone.org/about/team/FrameworkTeam>. > > > > Drupal gains a community rating of 4.3/5.0 > based on 111 user ratings. 111/280 = ratings from ~39% of Drupal users at > Ohloh. > > Plone gains a community rating of 4.3/5.0 > based on 61 user ratings. 61/107 = ratings from ~57% of Plone users at > Ohloh. > > > > <http://www.ohloh.net/projects/plone/factoids/740563> notes: > > > Over the last twelve months, Plone has seen a substantial decline in > > development activity … Ohloh makes this determination by comparing total > > number of commits made by all developers during the most recent twelve > > months with the same figure for the twelve months before that. The number > > of developers and total lines of code are not considered. > > The April/May 2006 burst is remarkable in the videos mentioned at > <http://n2.nabble.com/Plone-Code-Swarm-tp1374267p1374267.html> but that's > more than 24 months ago so the perceived decline is probably attributable to > other factors. > > Regards > Graham > -- > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Plone-code-swarm---275- > code-contributors---more-than-Drupal-and-Joomla-combined- > tp1387483p1392787.html > Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ___ > Evangelism mailing list > Evangelism@lists.plone.org > http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
